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UltimaterializerX posted...

Red is LOCK town, btw. His ability to solve is really something else.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

You are the reason Red didn't have to contribute anything to day 1 I'll be pissed at both you and Isquen if we see a repeat performance day 2.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I support jettisoning Red if he wont play. We have his thoughts anyway.

Kirby321 posted...

Meanwhile, Red can actively hurt our chances of nailing scum. If Sultan or Chris is scum, Red would happily throw the game by not giving a shit about the mechanics and just open dates for everyone, giving scum and easy way to bypass their "can't pair with each other limits".

One of these players is actively anti-town. That's my judgement.

I'm coming around to the idea of lynching Lopen today.

Kirby321 posted...

But you're 100% town, Lopen. I can't see any of your actions this game from a scum Lopen PoV.

Suppose Sultan flips town.

Suddenly that changes everything, as Chris is far likelier to have been telling the truth.

Although this does reaffirm my decision to not really play here anymore. It's a totally warped way of playing mafia where I can't sign up for a fun experimental game and watch it be chill without someone trying to be 20000000 iq

just a completely unenjoyable experience tbh

Lopen has completely killed any drive for me to play this game tbh.

Yes it is.

Last game, there were legitimate reasons to suspect me. I played like a guy that wanted to be scanned on night 1, and my only defense after that was I GOT SCANNED GUYZ

If were going to start pretending all power roles are lying, then why have them? Make every game all vanillas.

What is even the point of having town info roles if we're going to immediately give them zero credit?

It's called process of elimination for a reason, I eliminated the others and what remained is where I feel scum is most likely to be. I have mitigating positive things I could find about both you and Ulti, but ultimately scum has to exist somewhere regardless of how many reasons I can find for each person not to be.

Suddenly that changes everything, as Chris is far likelier to have been telling the truth.

That's a good point. Sultan and Death were both totally unclaimed by that point. I'll give Chris a pass D1 since claims didn't start coming out until way late into the day, but by D2, he had plenty of options.

I just think Godfather Prosty is a tad overkill. We have no reason to believe that exists until we get another scum flip

Hey, Lopen, how are you gonna do the triple kill if I'm paired with Chris right now?

It doesn't, but my stance hasn't changed on you being town. My point is that it clears Chris at the very least

Right but why kill all three of us if 2 of us are town?

Killing Chris and he flips any kind of Protys it clears me..

Then you guys can move on to actually read the game and stop tunneling me and look for scum. I get it I played against the grain and look bad can we please catch scum now?

Because if we flip Sultan today and he's town, you and Chris are basically cleared. And that's hella valuable

Suddenly that changes everything, as Chris is far likelier to have been telling the truth.

Well I'm not disagreeing with 1, I'm disagree with the "Chris isn't any kind of prosty" possibility

2 I guess it possible but is very convoluted and Chris would be toast if the Prosty flipped

Either way we can leave Chris alive today and if his partner says they weren't slept with, checkmate

I'm tempted to let one of JC or Dumey die just to see if it was probable that EoD D1 somehow ended up being all three scum, and that's why Peaf died.

But you know what

I'm fine with compromising on letting JC die. Only thing making me lean town on him was his willingness to go with Lea's shenanigans on D1, but otherwise, I've had a very difficult time trying to get some grasp on his alignment.

That's pretty hardcore. Now what happened next is still potentially just isquen doing the only thing he could do as scum, right? Unless you told him AFTER the night action cutoff his only out would be to change your mind in time for you to decide not to use it.