Lurker > Janus5k

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

It's too new and unknown to start a panic over at this point, not that that would ever stop waves of clickbait

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Yeah, taking down Sithe is a bit underwhelming as anything more than a swerve, but at the same time Drebber is so clearly the "main" villain of the case that I don't mind the focus on him. G2-2 sort of felt similar with Olive Green versus Shamspeare.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I feel kinda bad for the Raspberry Racers and the Hazers - they had to start in last and just never got anything going.

Congrats to Mellow Yellow on pulling off the overall win! They've come close before and it's nice to see them bounce back from 2020. Glad the Minty Maniacs were able to get a medal at the end too.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

The only case that matters is his hypothesis

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

oh my god Oceanics why are you doing this again

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Guess their new coach is working well with them! Shame they missed the podium but 4th is a lot better than they'd been doing.

LOL the top 6 all lost first round

LMAOOOOOOOOO the O'rangers are one of 5 teams eliminated

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

as an Oceanics fan, I feel the Rojo Rollers' pain very acutely

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Susato may not be a great lawyer, but at least she has a great Objection theme

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

well he has more moderate habits than Godot at least

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

What a roller coaster of an event.

Crazy how close this league suddenly got. Was hoping the Thunderbolts would break their drought with a gold, but alas.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

it would be pretty funny if Phoenix's send-off was him actually getting married and thus retiring

AA7 would likely be ten years after AA3, right? Surely that's a long enough sentence for being an accomplice to murder...

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I think my game ranking would be 3 > I2 > 1 >= 5 > 6 > G2 > 2 > G1 > I1 > LvW > 4, but I'm not sure. The middle three are all very hard to rank.

My biggest issues with the end of GAA2 are that I really don't like what they did with Kazuma (and he's not a very good prosecutor even if the game makes you think he is) and I couldn't help but feel like the Professor case was just a retread of SL-9, complete with a mastermind removing anyone who might know the truth. Plus it's hard for me to be impressed by the big reveal when it's about two characters that are long dead. That said I'd still probably put the last couple cases somewhere in the middle at worst; they definitely beat 4-4 and L-4 as far as epics go, however low a bar that is.

I actually just replayed DD and I have to agree that the writing is pretty corny at times, but I can forgive the game overall because Simon Blackquill is just too good.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Mellow Yellow what the fuck

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I think the two are pretty close (though GAA2 probably beats it out), but I also liked G1-5 a lot more than you apparently did.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I figured G1-5's segments would both be very high - it's a pretty long case and only has two - but wow, I didn't expect the whole thing to be second-longest.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

HasteDeux posted...

Biggest retiree snubs are maybe....

Unknown Pollution
Stella Part 2
Speartip of Judgment
Breath of Forest
The Battle Was Just To Continue That Future
Foregone Destruction

You know, it would be interesting to see the x-stats adjusted in such a way to reflect other factors like loss % on its own, how far it got, and the average x-stat of a bracket quadrant. For example, if a certain bracket quadrant has a really low (or high) average x-stat that could indicate the group is over- or under-rated to some extent.

There are definitely instances of songs being intransitive or putting up results that seem weirdly big, like Id (Purpose) as was pointed out above. No idea how you'd adjust that and there's not much point since the stats are largely for kicks.

I'd put Neo Kobe City on that list, too - it looked really good until it ran into Fogbeasts, and even then went out with some dignity.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

So I went ahead and did full X-stats for the bracket; rather than make a giant wall of text in a topic again I made a pastebin for anyone interested:

https://pastebin.com/x6kjW9JK

Not a whole lot of additional shakeup since the last three matches were all pretty close, but it's still nice seeing everything together.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I have a confession

I just pretended I could use the stereoscope for that trial because trying to do it hurt my eyes

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Can't say I was a fan of this event - seemed like it was just way too easy to get penalties - but it's nice to see Mellow Yellow get a gold for once.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I'd put the game above AJ and AAI1, but mostly because I really liked G1-5. Would put it in the upper half of epic cases to be sure.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I think it was early in G1-2 that I got fed up with the text scrolling and just enabled skip text (though like you my first inclination was to look for a way to just speed it up). Was feeling the pacing pretty acutely as is.

Really didn't like the case either, though it does a good job of establishing Susato and Sholmes as characters.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Tag.

Poor Roly. Dude works so hard and just wanted a day with his wife.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

wow

clearly Mega Man is not the only one out to murder Dr. Wily

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I want to say 4-2 takes a while to get to the murder, but if you include things like Phoenix's hit-and-run then it gets to that pretty quickly. Though G1-5 likely beats it regardless.

also glad I wasn't the only one who found Windibank's gimmick very uncomfortable

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Bracket C:

1 Paradise (Stay Forever) 50.00%
2 DigiFamily 44.07%
3 The Battle Was Just To Continue That Future 42.85%
4 Breath of Forest 42.55%
5 Pioneers Horizon 40.92%
6 Kill Command 40.59%
7 Battle -Threat- 40.00%
8 Chrono Trigger 38.69%
9 Gallant Gunshot 38.18%
10 Catabolism 38.18%
11 Working 37.50%
12 Calling 37.50%
13 Roll Me In 37.48%
14 Overcome the Rocky Path 37.42%
15 Rhythm-changer 36.65%
16 Valestein Castle 36.37%
17 Ancient Land 35.64%
18 Tonitrus 35.47%
19 Tactical Field 35.20%
20 Bound Together 35.05%
21 The Shackled Wolves 34.43%
22 Teknopathetic 34.43%
23 Duality 34.36%
24 Kimi ga Tame Re:boot 34.13%
25 Battle (Gokinjo Boukentai) 33.27%
26 IMAGE -MATERIAL- 32.89%
27 We All Lift Together 32.89%
28 Vast Ice Mountain Peak 32.73%
29 Space Mode 32.47%
30 One Last Trial 30.94%
31 To the Distant Sky 30.45%
32 Mikazuchi 30.21%
33 Voyage of Promise 29.42%
34 Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly 29.12%
35 Karma 28.97%
36 Youre Not Here 28.64%
37 The Big Ride 28.37%
38 High Above the Land 28.20%
39 MARIA 27.55%
40 City Ruins (Rays of Light) 27.55%
41 String Theocracy 27.54%
42 Everlasting Love 27.08%
43 Seraph, the Traitor 26.94%
44 Tidal Tempest 26.85%
45 Nilin the Memory Hunter 26.81%
46 GRAND FINALE 26.60%
47 Casio Hellburst 26.60%
48 Heavy Arms 26.11%
49 The Thief 25.75%
50 Over-nove 25.43%
51 Painted Foothills 25.37%
52 Vardelos 24.97%
53 Unfinished Business 24.13%
54 Targets! 24.12%
55 Upper City 24.05%
56 Rising Up 23.34%
57 Love You Love You Love (Onee-San) 22.33%
58 Anka 21.96%
59 Im Back (to Rise!) 21.28%
60 Elegy for Old Identities and Nostalgia 21.08%
61 Xepher 19.72%
62 Desert After Tears 19.52%
63 Normal Battle (Pokemon TCG) 19.32%
64 Natural Life A 18.00%

Bracket D:

1 resurrectedreplayer 50.00%
2 Bahram Attack -Nekomata Master Remix- 46.43%
3 Speartip of Judgment 44.64%
4 Greenpath 40.98%
5 In the Doldrums 40.74%
6 Sky of Twilight 38.96%
7 Living in the City 38.89%
8 Worlds End Valentine 37.93%
9 Genesis Beyond the Beginning 36.84%
10 Liber Ark 36.82%
11 Eleganza 36.11%
12 Besaid Island 36.07%
13 Danger (ARM Version) 35.84%
14 Mahoujin -Summon Delta- 35.50%
15 Into Free -Dangan- 35.48%
16 Legacy 35.48%
17 Iron Lotus 35.12%
18 DNF FW15C (ALL PHASE MIX) 34.83%
19 Dyed Gradient 34.19%
20 444 34.02%
21 Passion in Blue 33.45%
22 Dialgas Fight to the Finish! 33.33%
23 Bowsers Galaxy Generator 33.05%
24 Vast Poni Canyon 32.94%
25 House of Sacred Remains 32.62%
26 Dreams in a Pie 32.51%
27 Central Tower Axis Pillar 32.37%
28 S-Rank Battle 32.10%
29 Wavetapper 31.48%
30 La Follia damore 31.39%
31 Five 30.88%
32 The Final Showdown? 30.75%
33 Battle! Colress 30.62%
34 Cosmic Hero 30.60%
35 Conquest 30.41%
36 Best of Times 30.26%
37 Rush Hour 30.18%
38 Spurred Into Flight, Drenched and Fallen The Night Rises 30.11%
39 A Beautiful Song 30.08%
40 Strange Sunset 29.77%
41 Blue Line Instrumental 28.61%
42 Sim Broadway 28.38%
43 Final Voyage 28.25%
44 Tundra Man Stage (Instrumental) 28.20%
45 Rival Omega 28.10%
46 Pursuit (Okhotsk ni Kiyu) 27.36%
47 Trons Castle 27.29%
48 XaaaCi. 26.80%
49 FLIGHTLESS 26.59%
50 Towards the Horizon 26.37%
51 Gaze at My Sour Cream Burrito 24.09%
52 I Believe 22.70%
53 Final Wishes of the Mist 21.58%
54 The Dark Messenger 21.25%
55 Exercise Mode 20.97%
56 Shop til You Drop 20.94%
57 Title (RoboCop GB) 20.75%
58 Sunjammer Midnight Special 20.44%
59 Vs. Merican Yo-kai 19.89%
60 Subete no Yuri wa Chiri Hatete 19.21%
61 Give Me! 18.43%
62 Theme of the Last Battle 17.74%
63 Connexion 17.72%
64 Hurry Up! 16.57%


---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

So while we hope to resolve this Very Cute Semifinal, I took it upon myself to compile X-stats for every bracket, so that everyone can get a mathematically sound and completely infallible sense of how popular every song involved truly was.

Bracket A:

1 Fogbeasts 50.00%
2 Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA; 45.61%
3 Foregone Destruction 44.87%
4 Soaring Through Azure Sadness 43.92%
5 One Night in Neo Kobe City 43.86%
6 Untamed Heart 40.91%
7 The Explosion 40.74%
8 Linkage-alter 39.93%
9 Fairfrozen 39.81%
10 Weight of the World / English 39.53%
11 Pressure Cooker 38.67%
12 Altered Genos 38.60%
13 Fly to the Leaden Sky 37.38%
14 Heartless Being 37.17%
15 Planet Wisp Act 1 35.14%
16 Its Dangerous to Go Alone 33.40%
17 Kasaneawase no Nekobako 33.35%
18 The Rain Formerly Known As Purple 32.87%
19 Collapsed Expressway 32.73%
20 Lucky Charm 32.59%
21 Track 7 (Looney Tunes) 32.20%
22 Love Psalm 31.82%
23 Ryoshima Coast 31.55%
24 Rose-Killing Carmilla 31.45%
25 Hope Given Dance of the Dogs Howl 31.33%
26 Looting the Louvre 31.09%
27 Glessing Way! 31.03%
28 Obstacle 30.59%
29 Labyrinth VI The Vengeful God in the Dark Ocean Abyss 30.56%
30 The Butterflys Temptation 30.56%
31 Discovery 30.24%
32 Nekozamurai no Gyakushuu 29.99%
33 Ice-cover Love ~ Kohri 29.85%
34 Cradle 29.63%
35 Impossible Worlds 28.71%
36 Fury Sparks 28.52%
37 Sanctuary-SHU 28.31%
38 Let It Die ~ NOTHING TO DECLARE 27.92%
39 Avian Animosity 27.25%
40 14.3 Billion Years 27.14%
41 National Park 26.62%
42 Out of Tartarus 26.38%
43 Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker) 25.60%
44 Fuse Man Stage 25.46%
45 Inevitable Struggle -Super Arrange- 25.46%
46 Subuta.1 25.30%
47 Nefertiti 25.27%
48 Soft Collision 25.10%
49 Balunchons 25.09%
50 Professional Problem 24.97%
51 SEN ~ Kono Hana Saku ya 24.53%
52 Roar of the Jungle Dragon 24.36%
53 Suspenseful Third Day 24.29%
54 Psycho Soldier Theme 24.24%
55 The Heritors of Arcadia 23.64%
56 Steam Gardens 22.78%
57 Anistar City 21.97%
58 Mission 5 Spaceship 21.31%
59 The First Thing 21.17%
60 Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (14.5) 21.15%
61 Underwater Prom Queens 20.37%
62 Face Shrine 20.00%
63 Twelfth Chapter ~ In the Sky 19.06%
64 Planet X 18.24%

Bracket B:

1 Id (Purpose) 50.00%
2 Unknown Pollution 49.77%
3 Immanence 46.55%
4 POINT OF NO RETURN 45.61%
5 Stella -Part 2- 44.78%
6 La Mer 44.09%
7 Brave New World 44.07%
8 QuellEX[cez]>{kranz}; 43.66%
9 GTR Attack! 42.62%
10 Sogno di Volare 42.60%
11 Return to Oblivion 42.52%
12 Dreamy and Boisterous Holy Land 41.07%
13 08:16 Home 41.02%
14 Battle Field N.Y. central 39.81%
15 Phantom 39.22%
16 Beyond the Bounds 38.91%
17 Balance Slays the Demon 38.58%
18 Op. 13 38.16%
19 Light 37.82%
20 The Best is Yet to Come 35.88%
21 Battle at Journeys End 35.77%
22 Octopunch 35.20%
23 EVENK 34.96%
24 Prairie4 (Them of Alicianrone) 34.92%
25 Full Steam Ahead 34.40%
26 Fateful Confrontation 32.76%
27 sight of silence 32.69%
28 Apex of the World (Rain) 32.69%
29 Now What? 32.36%
30 Ikou (Authority) 32.14%
31 Monolith Gate 32.12%
32 Way of the Monk 31.36%
33 Unrest The End of the Raging Waves 30.26%
34 Stay Gold 29.52%
35 BWLAUTE BEIRRD 29.42%
36 Neuchatel 29.24%
37 The Fine Draw 28.92%
38 Dienos Advento 28.47%
39 Wheels of Aurelia 28.20%
40 You Were There 26.99%
41 Exhaustion 3 26.21%
42 Collapsing Rift 26.09%
43 A Long Fall 25.54%
44 silentwindbell 25.53%
45 OPTICAL MODE 25.31%
46 Children of the City 25.15%
47 Tellur Town 24.80%
48 The Undying Shores 24.70%
49 Terminal March 24.52%
50 Narrow Sky Finale 24.39%
51 Gentle Slope Cave 24.21%
52 Subterranean 23.92%
53 Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke 23.84%
54 Navi Customizer 23.54%
55 Onegonjou 23.51%
56 Bingo Highway 23.39%
57 Its Kill or Be Killed ~ Destroy Resort 22.32%
58 Madness 22.23%
59 Toucan Tarsand 22.05%
60 Fortune Favours the Bold 21.17%
61 The Bloody Rose 20.55%
62 To the Center of the Supervoid 20.47%
63 Jump 19.57%
64 BREADY STEADY GO 12.91%

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Unknown Pollution would be proud. :')

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

It tried to keep the dream alive, but as we all know,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AABvUTUTdcw

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

wow CCE are fucking RUDE

why bully the Rojo Rollers anyway, they're suffering enough

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

fortunately the closest GAA seems to come to one is the mind of Herlock Sholmes

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

ah yes it's that event where everyone takes a moment of silence for the Hazers

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

I'll admit I'm surprised Aerith is in the top 10 over Cloud or Tifa, but she probably benefitted somewhat from Remake

I don't really want to judge this round until it's completed because there are some big names left, but so far none of the elims have been as big as, say, Kirby or Vivi going out last round

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Immune: Miles Edgeworth
Boot: Naked Snake/Big Boss

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

what if we all agree to not come back from vacation

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Immune: Alucard
Boot: Missile

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Pioneer's (Stay Forever)

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

G1-5 and GAA1 beated

Who would have guessed cross-examining Mario and Luigi would be so entertaining

As far as epic cases go my gut reaction is that it falls shy of the big three and 6-5 but beats all the others - while it was nice watching Gina slowly open up, the emotional stakes weren't all there, but the actual ones certainly were by the end. I'm... not entirely sure how I feel about "reveal state secrets" as a way to win a trial, but seeing as the message was both obscure and overly cryptic I'm sure it's fine. >_> Overall case ranking is probably 5 >> 3 > 4 > 1 > 2, maybe switch 1 and 4.

Think I'd put the game somewhere in the lower half of the series, though cleanly above AJ and AAI1 at least. Was fun having a completely new cast (who are pretty great for the most part) and watching them develop/interact, but having only two "full" cases really held it back I think, especially when one of them is pretty weird. Doesn't feel self-contained like the other games either - it's pretty clearly set up for the sequel. Which I guess I can start now!

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Katara
Ty Lee

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Appa
Plankton

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Immune: Miles Edgeworth
Boot: The Boss

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Protecta really trying to Protect (bracket) A from Fogbeasts

hopefully it fails MWAHAHAHA

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Dreamy and Boisterous Holy Land
POINT OF NO RETURN

sorry Octo
less sorry Id

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Fogbeasts

The Explosion has grown on me a decent bit, but.

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Immune: Count Bleck
Boot: Aerith

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Been making progress in GAA - got through both G1-3 and G1-4 and started G1-5.

G1-3: this was... a ride. The jury was kind of annoying and the witnesses were pretty one-note (except Gina) but at the end of the day this trial is about McGilded and how absolutely sketchy the whole thing is. It's a bit unsatisfying but it seems like 1-5 will tie into it so hopefully it gives sufficient closure.

G1-4: this one was just weird. I think my favorite part is early on when you get to see Ryunosuke's doubts about standing in court (which are pretty reasonable after the last case!) and seeing him work through it. Soseki is fun. Joan is awful, probably one of the most unlikable characters in the franchise. The pacing in this felt a little odd - "the knife came from above" seemed like it came way too early for such a big twist, but I guess having that in mind and working towards making it feasible was a decent approach. Also poor Roly, go take a nap man.

Just got past discovering the murder in G1-5 and it certainly has me hype. I enjoy the ridiculous animations of this guy who is totally named Eggert Benedict

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.

Into Free -Dangan-
Genesis Beyond the Beginning

I HATE Falcom
I LOVE Falcom

---

A hero cannot be defeated simply by making him die.