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adjl posted...

Also, most vaccines are delivered intramuscularly, not "directly into the bloodstream." Off-hand, I can't think of any intravenous vaccines. If you want to be taken seriously, you should probably try to get your facts straight and avoid jumping into transparent, melodramatic emotional appeals like that.

Nitpicking details such as this, when the message was clear that the digestive system is a natural process VS not a natural process, is something that makes one not take you seriously.

Especially when you continuously bring up supposed emotions of both the parents of these children and even my own.

Ive seen no mention or response to my statement about The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP). Guess thats not as easy to tackle as a intravenous VS intramuscular. At this rate the discussion has de-evolved, and I await your next message where you correct my grammar and end it with, Why you mad, bro?
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Lokarin posted...

Yoda isn't real cute, Baby Yoda is corporately enforced cute with no emotional merit

I feel this.
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They need Jesus.
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Kingdom Two Crowns is on sale.

You will never have as much fun in a video game doing the same thing over and over.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

HornedLion posted...

I know Disney is anxious to move on from this trilogy but... Im not ready to see this last film.

Its too soon after the trash fest that was last film.

Maybe it's better to shit it out, get it over with, and then shift focus over to TV shows for a while before trying to move back into films.

Not that they're going to DO that, but it would probably be better than what they've been doing so far.

Watch this:

https://youtu.be/5ECwhB21Pnk

This review is the only good thing to ever have come out of The Last Jedi. Genuinely funny.
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I know Disney is anxious to move on from this trilogy but... Im not ready to see this last film.

Its too soon after the trash fest that was last film.
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kangolcone posted...

HornedLion posted...

What he was accused of doing is sick! They ruined one of my beloved childhood TV dads.

I think Justice was served but... I also hear that this all came about because he was going to buy CBS. I dont know too much about it but Im sure someone in here does.

What are you talking about? Thats not even close to true. CBS makes more money in a year than Bill Cosby is worth.

I dont know, man. I say it in my damn post.
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Mad_Max posted...

HornedLion posted...

What he was convicted of doing is sick!

ftfy

Fair correction.

Ferarri619 posted...

HornedLion posted...

They ruined one of my beloved childhood TV dads.

Lucky for us 90s kids we had Goku and Vegeta as our dads.

I dont know who Id claim.

Danny Tanner? Phillip Banks? Carl Winslow?
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papercup posted...

HornedLion posted...

Getting a vaccination? Oh no, youre good. These things have no adverse effects.

What? Obviously getting a vaccine has risks. If the nurse/doctor/whoever isn't careful yes they can injure you. Or maybe your body actually gets the flu from the vaccine. But these things aren't at all common. It's just it's been proven to not have the risk of causing autism, since autism develops before birth. There is 0 evidence of a link between autism and vaccination.

Papercut, there is no genetic test for autism. Theres no blood test, cat scan, etc., that can be done to conclusively say you have it.

Instead a developmental pediatrician will observe a patient, and perform numerous tests. I remember my son saw one once, and the doctor began to blow bubbles. And then he suddenly stopped. My son stood there looking at him like, Okay continue. And the doctor explained to me that that was good. Someone on the spectrum wouldve just walked away.

So since this is how its tested, no one can say that it begins at birth. No way to scientifically prove it. And even at ages 1-3 its hard to diagnose because a lot of the quirky things toddlers do overlap with ASD symptoms.

So, to my point, a child exhibits excellent eye contact, speech, name response... all things incompatible with ASD and then they lose it all after their vaccination. Thats a clear cause and effect.

And the medical community doesnt say what my friends Kyuubi4269 & adjl say that its parents lying but instead they say its a coincidence. Theyre not denying it happened... theyre denying that it was due to the vaccine.

The ultra corporate democrat, Bill Maher, had a discussion about this recently on his show with Dr. Jay Gordon. In it Dr. Jay Gordon recounts speaking with a colleague in the parking lot after being on a show together. He asked him if he really believed that vaccines had no effect in ASD rates. And he admitted that he believes they do but its not something you can say on TV. Bill Maher even acknowledge that the story of kids not being on the spectrum, getting vaccinated and then within 72hrs demonstrating textbook ASD symptoms is one that keeps coming up.

Ironically, Im at the doctors office now getting my daughter vaccinated. I know the risks and this is what I decided. Rest assured that I will be keeping a close eye on her. Although the ones shes getting today arent the controversial ones people attribute ASD to.

People can believe what they want. But since we ourselves were toddlers were began to learn cause-and-effect. Not a hard concept.

Is it that preposterous to think that a child under the age of 1 cannot have honey, pure... organic... natural honey(that gets filtered through the digestive system) because their body cannot handle it and possible bacteria that weve all been exposed to and inhabit us... but its okay for them to take a bunch of chemicals directly into the bloodstream with no ill effect?
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adjl posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

HornedLion posted...

A while back it was presented that among a group vaccinated children within the first 3 years of life the Autism rate was 8%(give or take, was a while ago) but for the group vaccinated post 3 years old it was less than 1%(again give or take). The belief being that those who got vaccinated after 3 and were autistic it was because they were actually born autistic and not due to vaccine injury.

Considering how the rate is about 1% in the UK for anything on the spectrum, a country that does several vaccinations before the first year, I'm going to call bullshit on that.

The CDC's most recent data for the US (2014) says 1.7%, so yeah, I'm gonna need to see a citation on that.

Again, in my comment I stated that I didnt remember exactly the percentage. It was before I cared about the subject so I didnt retain it as well as I would today. But I do remember the fact that there was a significant reduction in autism rates for children being vaccinated after age 3.

Now, since you seem to have dug your heels into your position, Id like to comment... are you saying that EVERY. SINGLE. PROCEDURE in the world has risks involved and yet vaccines are purely magical with no risks whatsoever?

Getting teeth pulled? Sign this form stating the risks.
Tonsils removed? Sign this form stating the risks.
Getting a vaccination? Oh no, youre good. These things have no adverse effects.

You guys go hard as if the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program isnt a thing. As if as of October 2019, $4.2 Billion in compensation hasnt been paid out since it started. And thats not including lawyers and legal fees.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services set up the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) in 1988 to compensate individuals and families of individuals injured by covered childhood vaccines.

Do you...
A) Just not know enough about the topic
B) Go with whatever the media says regardless of anything
C) Are afraid to receive the harsh criticism that those who question vaccines are receiving?

The best stance Ive seen people take against anti-Vaxxers is that of, Yeah but I rather take the ASD risk over the possible death risk.

But the Vaccines are perfectly safe and dont cause autism because big pharma funded a study stance is just not sustainable given all we know.
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What he was accused of doing is sick! They ruined one of my beloved childhood TV dads.

I think Justice was served but... I also hear that this all came about because he was going to buy CBS. I dont know too much about it but Im sure someone in here does.
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adjl posted...

HornedLion posted...

You guys already know what I think on the subject.

Last time we talked about this, I remember you suggesting that the best course of action was to delay the vaccine schedule by a year or so to deliver them at a less developmentally sensitive time and reduce the supposed risk of developing autism. In response, I challenged you to find data on autism rates between the many children that already follow a modified vaccine schedule (for any number of reasons) and those that follow a normal one, since your hypothesis was an easy one to test. Unfortunately, I never made it back to that topic, so I don't actually know: did you ever rise to that challenge?

No harm as I didnt see that either. But I can answer it now.

A while back it was presented that among a group vaccinated children within the first 3 years of life the Autism rate was 8%(give or take, was a while ago) but for the group vaccinated post 3 years old it was less than 1%(again give or take). The belief being that those who got vaccinated after 3 and were autistic it was because they were actually born autistic and not due to vaccine injury.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

HornedLion posted...

Theres videos of before and after that parents have posted online. Theyre hard to watch too.

Videos of babies, then videos of them feeling ill from their immune systems having to work out a bit?

https://youtu.be/SccZrtOF5QM

The MMR vaccine works in preventing Measles, Mumps, and Rubella; diseases that can be devastating and even deadly.

Gasoline works great at getting me to and from work.

The problem I have with them isnt the effectiveness of their intended purpose but the side effects. With the vaccines theres vaccine injury, and with Gas theres pollution and increased carbon dioxide.

Both the vaccine and gasoline are miracles and triumphs of humanities intelligence but... where the problem comes in is that they arent and shouldnt be the end. They are but the beginning of journey. We shouldnt be reliant on fossil fuels forever due to their adverse side effects, and in that same way we shouldnt be reliant on the primative vaccines. We should innovate to reduce or completely eliminate negative effects. But instead what weve gotten is both industries using their money to buy influence and sway public opinion rather than perfect their product, which lets be honest is going to be very expensive. But its also the right thing to do.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

HornedLion posted...

What you need to know is that thousands of parents report having a baby with excellent eye contact, name response/recognition, and very social... then immediately after getting their vaccine for Measles/Mump/Rubella their kid loses eye contact, name response, etc.

Thousands of parents have falsified positive memories of their babies they're (rightly) obsessed with.

Theres videos of before and after that parents have posted online. Theyre hard to watch too.

Fun fact: My little girl is getting some shots today. DTaP, Hep B, and I think something else.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Muscles posted...

I thought liberals, like Jenny McCarthy, were the ones pushing the movement

I figured both sides had types of people among them that would be anti vaxx. Religious (anti science) on one side and big corporations are evil (big pharma being just that) on the other. Never cared to look into it to see if that was the case though.

What you need to know is that thousands of parents report having a baby with excellent eye contact, name response/recognition, and very social... then immediately after getting their vaccine for Measles/Mump/Rubella their kid loses eye contact, name response, etc.

That isnt being denied by the medical industry... instead they want us to believe that because autism causes regression, that coincidentally their first regression began after they received their shots but thats just a coincidence.
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Mead posted...

Not necessarily, your body can make cholesterol in addition to getting it from what you eat

Best methods are to increase your daily fiber and get some moderate exercise daily

Thanks, Mead.
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... But everywhere I go I keep her picture in my wallet like...
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My wife accidentally made chicken sushi once before.

Youll live. Worst case scenario is salmonella.
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bossjony posted...

R u feeling shaky?

No, thats a symptom of hypoglycemia not borderline Cholesterol.
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And only eat things that say 0 cholesterol...

Will my cholesterol go down?
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You guys already know what I think on the subject.

Just going to say... why are certain types and even brands of vaccines outlawed in other countries but are okay in the states?
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Shes 47 now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tami_Stronach

Use to have a huge crush on her.
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BlackScythe0 posted...

Apparently lev parnas handed over video of trump and guiliani to the house intelligence committee. No link because I'm on my phone.

Itll be labeled fake news by the republicans and his supporters.

If Obama did .00001% of all this theyd have impeached him, cryogenically frozen him, and sent him into deep space.
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lihlih posted...

Buy apple stock

LMAO this.
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Didnt Mike Turner get a little too happy when he said, Oh, dear God.

https://youtu.be/J3pxtj9P3T4

He got a little bit of a San Fransisco accent there. I was expecting him to call the Dems Queens or end his sentence with girlfrieeeeend. *snap snap*
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Pizza Hut (has stuffed crust ) and a fair amount) of cheese.
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Bugmeat posted...

I've burried my tongue in many unwashed asses and have never gotten sick.

The ass looks amazing. But the face looks dangerously young.

Same...

EXCEPT...

One time around 2010/2011 where I woke up that night with a fever soooooo fucking hot... Im being serious here... that my body felt like it would burn you if you touched me. Im talking about I woke up, felt like I was seriously going to die from the fever, and did not even care. Thats how bad it was.

Looking back on it now... Im sure I must of have gotten some sort of hepatitis or some shit. The kind that your body beats. Not the kind that is permanent.

Only explanation. Man... I use to be a nasty motherfucker.
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Right up there with Haitis dirt cookies, man.
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I got the game free on PSN and didnt care. It was my 3 year old that kept begging me to play it.

After that I clocked in HUNDREDS of hours and got all endings. Yeah, Im pretty sure. Then proceeded to buy it for the Switch.

Sad that Bumbo or whatever isnt doing so well.
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^ Some evil women do that.

Thats why I am still a Mel Gibson fan. It was obvious in that recording that she had really trolled him hard that day.
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EvilMegas posted...

I do. It's the worst system ever.

Yeah, usually guys that Ive worked with that pay for it seem pretty down.

My friends story is interesting for a lot of reasons... mostly because its rare to hear the dude trying to take the chick for support.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

e.coli

Its sooooo worth the risk.
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I have a friend that has 2 kids with some guy. According to her the lowlife has flown under the radar for years. Running away from his payments, and helped by his parents in hiding. One of them getting him an under the table job.

She cared for them by herself with no support until they were ages 11 and 13. At that point she sent them to live with him full time. Now theyre 15 and 17, and hes coming after her for child support.

Im not a lawyer but... doesnt he have more to lose? I mean she would owe him 12 years of child support(collectively for the 2), and he would owe 24 years of child support(again collectively).

But then again... the judge can do whatever the fuck he/she wants. Idk. Hence the question.

It just seems really hypocritical and pathetic to let someone struggle for years and then all of a sudden try to get more out of them.
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Topic?
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I cant agree with you more, TC.

No way did they redo all the CGI in the time they supposedly did. Im sure we have at least one person in here that works in the industry and can attest to it.

Well know for sure when the DVD is out and it doesnt have the option to watch the original Sonic in it. If its legit, given that they spent so much money, itll have 2 options. Like a directors cut. Maybe in a deluxe version.

But that wont happen because the only original Sonics we saw was the few scenes in the commercial. The commercial which created all the backlash. Even the backlash seemed fabricated.

One way to prove it is when you see the reactions of the fixed Sonic. People are like, Meh. So bad Sonic = OMG WTF!?!?!? THEY DESTROYED MY CHILDHOOD. And good Sonic = Meh. I might go see it.
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Banana for the win!

That was last night, bro.

Ill get that next time.
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BlackScythe0 posted...

Its the oldest profession.

10/10


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If the previous owners were smokers... run! Even if you dont really smell smoke when viewing the house.
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An order has been placed for Oreo Cookies and Cream Ice Cream.

The peanut butter banana and chocolate hazelnut were honorable mentions.
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From Johnny Rockets.

Ill choose whatever you guys pick after I finish my burger.
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Please be Hans Moleman.
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Make sure to clean where he pees with hydrogen peroxide. Not only is it WAY cheaper than shit in the pet store that say itll prevent him from peeing there again but... it ACTUALLY works.
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Pokmon: Shippden
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Its hilarious when hes live streaming and someone mistakes him for a woman.
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rjsilverthorn posted...

Now is when you Google your lock in hopes of finding an easy exploit to get in.

This.

I went from calling someone to help open up my car to calmly removing my shoe laces and getting in within seconds.
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Mead posted...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/11/donald-trump-confessed-again/

The idiot accidentally confessed again

He actually thinks theres a physical server in Ukraine and that if he gets his hands on it it will prove all the conspiracy theories he is peddling

How does anyone defend this absolute dimwit

Nah, he doesnt actually believe that. He just needs to create enough doubt that there might be.

With no hyperbole, he is taking plays right out of the dictators handbook.
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Cyndaquil please.
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papercup posted...

That's not even close to what the article says.

His attempt still made me LOL.
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Kings are still in NYC like that? I had no idea.

Growing up in NYC most people in gangs were either under age 15 or over 40 and either currently incarcerated or in and out.

Gang BS gets really old as you approach adulthood, and in NYC especially, kids are quick to find out that repping red, blue, yellow, etc. doesnt matter... cause life is all about the green. $$$
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papercup posted...

https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/trumps-rambling-fox-friends-appearance-read-as-admission-of-guilt-on-comey-firing-ukraine-call/ Trump just fucking admitted he did the thing Republicans just spent 2 months trying to half-assedly pretend he didn't do.

But nope. Hes totally innocent and everyone else is out to get him.

Heres one of them trying to play the role of merely an intelligent observer but then melt down when confronted with actual facts:

https://youtu.be/Hy8l1IYGsOY
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