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Jen0125 posted...

Do you not understand how impeachment works? Everyone who does understands it's not a removal. You're the only one trying to move any goalposts.

No president has ever been removed after impeachment. Nixon resigned before the vote even. The rest were acquitted in the senate.

Realistically no one counted on the people, that were okay with Russians interfering in our election because it benefitted them, to actually vote using their nonexistent conscience.


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ForteEXE3850 posted...

They lost the previous election because people hated politicians more than they did Trump. Even the Republican Party was surprised Trump won candidacy, that wasn't supposed to happen in the first place. They were all surprised how much they were hated that people choose Trump over them.

Yup. They were mad about things have been in politics. So they supported an outsider. And like I have said before, a lemon. It was meant to leave a sour taste in the mouths of the establishment. Of both sides.

But that wasnt what happened, was it? The GOP found that this guy was aligned with all their greedy qualities. They could use him to give themselves and their donors huge tax breaks, and stack the courts, and they did. They took that lemon and made themselves a nice tall glass of lemonade.

But you said it yourself... that wasnt the intention. And so the people have seen the real enemy of the people. And they have begun to vote them out. Look at the last two elections. States that havent been anywhere close to blue are now purple.

If they want to win, they need to focus on improving their own reputation, and the reputation of of politicians in general, rather than just attack Trump the whole time, which already didn't work the first time.

And by bringing up to Moscow Mitch McConnell the HR1 Bill, they have taken an essential step to give the power BACK to the people. By being a check on the president, they have done what we have hoped for, and voted them in for.

The jig is up. Unless the GOP cheat and seek outside interference, they will most certainly lose in 2020 across the board.

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GanonsSpirit posted...

Sure, we knew it already, but McConnell is out here just admitting how corrupt he is.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/politics/senate-impeachment-trial-mitch-mcconnell-white-house/index.html

This is like if a judge said he would coordinate with the defense counsel. Totally shameful and indefensible.

People need to work in order to get the new iPhone. No time for news and protesting.

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Jen0125 posted...

Everything you say is joke.

Theyre not serious, Jen. Whats it called when you say things just to upset others?

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

Ive had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days

lmao!

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aDirtyShisno posted...

Youre saying hes guilty of something for thinking of it. Under that same reasoning everyone is guilty of what they are thinking.

Im done with the guy/gal that didnt know what the protocol for evidence is in an ongoing investigation:

aDirtyShisno posted...

Okay, then wheres this audio? Youd think that Democrats would be blasting this audio on every street corner for all to hear if it was damning evidence that the transcripts were not representative of the actual conversation the President had, yet that still hasnt happened.

Im glad youre trying this tactic, though. Because it highlights the similarities between Trump and his supporters. Take a stance, lose, and then take a victory lap.

Mueller report comes out: Trump has Barr say hes been exonerated despite it highlighting 8 instances of obstruction of justice.

IG report last week comes out: No bias found in investigation, and instead they found that there was bias against Clinton. What does Trump say? He claims victory despite that.

And when the senate fails to remove him: He will claim to be exonerated despite the fact that anyone with more than 3 brain cells can see that he obstructed justice. If you dont think so... YOU put a subpoena in a desk and ignore it and see what happens.


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aDirtyShisno posted...

...but that doesnt mean Im guilty of silencing you.

Who said youre guilty of anything?

Who said you were silencing someone?

Why are you having your own arguments?

Why are you having trouble with reading comprehe-oh shit! Have I been responding to another one of Ohhhjas alts!?


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aDirtyShisno posted...

I mean, the House has dragged it out for months to build up a fictitious narrative... Why not wait a little longer for this alleged factual evidence of wrongdoing when all the evidence they currently have is hearsay?

Fictitious narrative? Did you not hear him say, Yeah! I think they[Ukraine] should investigate the Bidens. And then, I think China should investigate the Bidens. Thats while we are in trade negotiations with them. Its easy to see the gravity of this and the conflict of interest, and thats putting it lightly. AND all this was said after a 2 year investigation which was unable to find SUFFICIENT, not any but sufficient, evidence of conspiracy. BUT it did find 8 counts of obstruction of justice on behalf of this president. Remember, Russia... if youre listening...

He learned nothing except that you can commit a crime, and get away with it with a GOP senate. And... hes about to learn that lesson again.

But yeah, fictitious narrative.

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TheWitchMorgana posted...

do you really think the president has zero impact on anybodys life?

Maybe thats why his supporters vote against their own interests. Because they dont understand how the governments decisions impact their lives, hence they see it more as their VS the other team.


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aDirtyShisno posted...

Well it sounds like they held onto it too long. The vote for the articles of impeachment was this morning. They cant surreptitiously consider this as evidence after the fact.

Lev Parnas has only been in custody for what, month, month and a half?

Impeachment is moving forward because it has to. No time to wait for things to be tied up in courts when the crime is against the upcoming election.

They cant surreptitiously consider this as evidence after the fact.

I mean, the senate should take everything into account. But in the end of the day this is a political process more than anything else. Thats why the GOP can so brazenly brush away facts.

But the American people can take that into account come next November. Even Matt Gaetz said it when talking about Hunter Biden, Criminals dont just change. They remain criminals always. Thats not an exact quote but he said something to that extent. So we are to believe that the man in charge of Trump University, Individual #1, is all of a sudden going to stop being a criminal?

Fuck! The worst part is that he isnt even sorry about what he did. AND he got GOP members like Radcliffe to jump on the idea that soliciting involvement in political elections from foreign nations is okay.

We are seeing our election process go down the drain by the very party that works hard to suppress our votes. Dont take my word for it. Educate yourself and then think about it.


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@darkknight109

He isnt stupid. He knows that shit. Hes just here to pretend hes that ignorant so that you respond and that small victory is meant to replace a neglected hug/kiss from a paternal figure.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

Okay, then wheres this audio? Youd think that Democrats would be blasting this audio on every street corner for all to hear if it was damning evidence that the transcripts were not representative of the actual conversation the President had, yet that still hasnt happened. Instead the articles of impeachment were just voted on in committee without this.

That is a part of an ongoing criminal investigation. That does not just get thrown around willy nilly. Especially if the prosecutor believes it advantageous to hold on to until the last possible minute dictated by law, and even then the only other person that will get to hear it is the defense.

This isnt fucking rocket science. Its middle school shit, man!


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According to reports, Lev Parnas has provided audio with Trump and Giuliani meeting on Ukrainians.

https://youtu.be/v9tOF88tAcM

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TyVulpine posted...

Higher tariffs means YOU are paying more for goods. America raises tariffs for goods coming into the country, and companies raise prices to offset the higher tariffs, and lay off employees. Nobody wins a tariff war.

You know youre talking to a wall, right?

He/she will just say, Man, what TyVulpine is saying is making sense. BUT... GOP elected officials are backing Trump, and theyre smart guys. I trust them more than I do some guy on GameFAQS. So, I am still correct. Tariffs good.

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papercup posted...

The House is going to vote to impeach him for multiple obvious crimes. The Senate is going to hold a sham trial for him and acquit him. So he needs to be voted out next year.

The House already voted.

Also, folks have begun to call for Moscow Mitchs recusal. He admitted that hes working closely with the WH lawyers on this.

Since when does the main juror work with the defendant?

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And I like presidents that werent impeached.

Trump has worked so hard to undo so much of what Obama did. He is envious of admiration the people had for him.

Well, regardless of what happens next, he will have that on his record. Does that help fix the divide hes done to the country? The deregulation of the EPA? The economic hardship of farmers? Does it bring Heather Heyer back?

No. But its still nice to know that he isnt happy.

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I am very proud of folks on here calling the bullshit that Nordic countries can have all these great systems in place but that those very same systems cant work here because:

1) population
2) diversity

Its idiotic, and propaganda. Ive had this argument with my Trumper brother.

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Jen0125 posted...

If a Democrat said anything like this Republicans would have a complete meltdown

Lots of double standards.

As we are here discussing this the GOP is making a big stink about some Dems wanting you impeach the president early on in his presidency.

Meanwhile ALL the GOP said they were going to make sure Obama was a one term president back in the day.

Hypocrisy.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Probably a ripple or a fart lol

I can see a climatic ripple have the same effect as an explosion.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

All the movies have dumb stuff like loud fiery explosions in the vacuum of space

What would an explosion look like(if any)?

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He checked his ass!

He made him spread his cheeks!

He touched his ass!

HIS ASS!

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De ja vu.

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Lmao! Ive been watching todays hearing and the longer it goes the less willing the GOP are the defend him. Theyre shouting less, and it seems like theyre talking incoherently. Lol. Im serious. Rep. Louie Gohmert is sounding like someone slipped him a roofie and its starting to take effect.

Democrats have hit them with some strong shots, and all embedded in fact. Shit is fun to watch.

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Can I borrow it so that I can pay this bank to release the funds from a deceased rich relative that I didnt know about until 5min ago when I got an email about it?

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I_Always_Die posted...

i dont understand why she makes right wingers so upset

Because they have a set of beliefs embedded in their minds from right wing outlets whose $uccess is owed to the billionaires that fund them. Those billionaires use those outlets to spew their garbage, and its nonnegotiable as any deviation would/could cause financial issues to those billionaires. So right wingers are taught a zero tolerance policy on anything that goes against the main issues.

And also...

SaltyAndSweet posted...

and if they did youd legally have to sit at least 100 yards away from them

Shots fired! I repeat, shots fired!

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Rep. Zoe Lofgren just made my day!

The GOP continued to bring up the Bidens, and when she got the mic she said that there are issues handled in the election, and issues held in this body. And that what Hunter Biden has done and what Trumps two sons and daughter have done is something to be handled in the election. She then went on to say that what the president has done is what they were there to handle.

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These hearings are getting hard to listen to. Its just the GOP saying the same shit over and over. But whats really hard is the amount to which they repeat certain talking points over and over. None hold any water but... studies show that that doesnt matter. The power of repetition cannot be understated. Combine that with the fact that the majority of voters arent exactly candidates for Mensa, and you quickly see the issue.

GOP is now trying to scare folks saying that if we impeach him that itll set a dangerous precedence and give congress more power than the executive branch and itll mess the balance up.

Their stance is bullshit but even if we were to give them the benefit of the doubt, lets see how choosing the wrong side would effect history:

If the GOP is right, and we back a frivolous impeachment(its not frivolous in this case) then we have congress more power than the president.

BUT...

If the Democrats are right, and we dont back impeachment, then we have given the executive branch and foreign powers a huge and unbelievable amount of power, especially in our elections.

I want to say that it comes down to the lesser of two evils... But this time its pretty clear that only one side is evil.

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OhhhJa posted...

There is a lot to unpack here as to why this is subpar insult but there are tons of blue collar workers that make 6 figures

What you got out of me saying, Lets spot the Blue Collar Worker is that they dont make a lot of money?



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Something about the spacing between her eyes tells me that... shes not trolling. Shes a real Trump supporter.

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OniRonin posted...

if you get fat from too much chow, i will never call you a cow. I respect you and cow's. DON'T use Heifer as an insult.

Isnt he Asian? He aint ever getting fat.

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I do what I want!



I callem:
Konchasaur
Kindle
Treemander

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Lets play Spot The Blue Collar Worker!

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blackhrt posted...

It was?
I suppose darth vader choking someone & arms getting chopped off is in line with kids movies.

Why does he embarrass himself every time he posts?

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Jen0125 posted...

But did FedEx lie to you

That was very bold of you.

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I_Always_Die posted...

yeah they impeached a guy for getting a blowjob and not a guy who bribed a foreign government to fuck with our Presidential election. so weird.

I was hoping no one would respond to this blatant foolery but that was well put.

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PragerU can eat a big fat dick.

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Ill warm you up, baby.

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Funny cause I definitely see you as the type to have dreams about Tom Cruise in a Gas Station bathroom.

OhhhJa posted...

Also, I'd totally pay to see tom cruise...

I can see that too.


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This ninja is making shit hot up in here.

Time to lay low for a while.

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If Japan is so extreme how come their parts are always blurred out!?

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CTLM posted...

Just had sex yesterday. It was pleasant. I would love to do it more frequently but I forgot how much of a cock block a toddler can be until I had my daughter

This.

Even if the toddler is asleep they have managed to drain the energy of all adults in the home.

Even still... Ive learned that going the extra mile for wifey(i.e. doing more chores, helping out more, etc.) is an amazing aphrodisiac.

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You are having? If so, Im sorry, man.

Here. Jam out to King Dedede. His tune is the shit.

https://youtu.be/hPZm4Px-zYg

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Yellow posted...

relevant

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/10/pence-space-force-agreement-victory-081741

TlDr, the Dems agreed to a "space force" that will likely cost hundreds of billions of dollars, as long as the Republicans agreed to let the Dems get paid parental leave, which will likely cost less than a billion dollars.

Dems are weak and Reps are crazy. Dems give a mile to take an inch, while Reps would literally hold a baby at gunpoint to get what they want, which usually isn't reasonable.

Funny. I like to think of it as, voting progressive is like drinking water. Voting establishment Dems is like drinking sugary soda. And voting republican is like drinking antifreeze.

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Jen0125 posted...

What is comparable about this? No one is saying countries don't make deals with each other. But Donald Trump is being accused of levying specific funding for his own personal benefit to potentially influence an election in his favor. Your video is not the same situation.

No way is someone that blind that they cannot see that the two things are vastly different.

It was a sad day when corporations began to influence our elections but at least theyre American companies. Its going to be a huge blow when Trump gets away with this and this precedent is set.

But, anyone that follows politics knows that it doesnt take long for the shoe to be on the other foot. And while I dont condone ANY president doing what Trump did... itll at least be entertaining to watch these dudes(Fox news hosts, Republicans, Trumpers, Zeus, etc.) lose it when a democrat president does it.

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OhhhJa posted...

It's cool. I know you couldn't possibly rationally explain how Putin is somehow controlling our elections. Man, he has more power than the media and google here somehow! Dude must be a demigod!

You doubled down again. You further extrapolated from, Putin is on a roll that hes controlling our elections.

Just say, Im a troll and this is what I do cause on reading comprehension youre not winning any awards.

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OhhhJa posted...

I dont know if you're aware but there was this mueller report thing that concluded that there was no evidence of collusion. Take off the tinfoil hat buddy

The fact that thats what you extrapolated out of, Putin is on a roll is really embarrassing.

Cut your losses and go away.

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Truck owner doing something stupid?

Naaaaaaah! Never happens.

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I_Abibde posted...

And now the ball starts rolling quickly. This is the point in the process where Nixon resigned.

That was then, and this is now.

We are talking about the integrity of our elections and democratic process... and that shit is about to get flushed down the toilet by the Republicans in the senate.

Putin is on a roll.

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Muscles posted...

So she's the conservative AOC?

But actually attractive

BeerOnTap posted...

And probably actually intelligent and not a communist womanchild.

You guys are either saying that to incite others or... you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.

The voting against self interest continues...


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Before the dark times.

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