Poll of the Day > Gov Huckabee is saying that Trump will be eligible for third term

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Jen0125 posted...

He's not standing up to China lmao. He's ruining the farming industry with tariffs and then giving basically welfare to the farmers to keep them afloat. And why do you want a president that just insults people instead of actually practicing diplomacy? I don't have a biggest issue - everything he does is an issue and a liability. He lies about everything and has the emotional maturity of a newborn baby. There's nothing positive about him as a person or a politician.

A tired excuse. Every hater loves to use all the buzzwords - racist, liar, etc. But when pressured for examples they crumble and go into professional victim mode. Tariffs are meant to encourage business to stay within the US and it's a surprise anyone could be against that.

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I am very proud of folks on here calling the bullshit that Nordic countries can have all these great systems in place but that those very same systems cant work here because:

1) population
2) diversity

Its idiotic, and propaganda. Ive had this argument with my Trumper brother.

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DPsx7 posted...

A tired excuse. Every hater loves to use all the buzzwords - racist, liar, etc. But when pressured for examples they crumble and go into professional victim mode. Tariffs are meant to encourage business to stay within the US and it's a surprise anyone could be against that.

Uh because it's having the opposite effect and hurting the American consumer.

Also, they're not buzzwords they're descriptors of a morally bankrupt individual.

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Dummies: "Welfare for the poor is bad! But giving billions to wealthy corporations, and to keep the farming industry solvent when they're struggling as a direct result of our tariffs, is good!"

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Far-Queue posted...

Dummies: "Welfare for the poor is bad! But giving billions to wealthy corporations, and to keep the farming industry solvent when they're struggling as a direct result of our tariffs, is good!"

Seriously. They're fine with welfare, they're just okay with it going to the wealthy that don't need it or subsidizing and bailing out our industries when they fail due to corporate greed or failing government policies.

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No Trump is not getting a third term.

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If poor people have food to eat and a home to live in, it ruins freedom for the rest of us

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DPsx7 posted...

A tired excuse. Every hater loves to use all the buzzwords - racist, liar, etc. But when pressured for examples they crumble and go into professional victim mode. Tariffs are meant to encourage business to stay within the US and it's a surprise anyone could be against that.

Trade war losses cost Nebraska farmers nearly $1B
https://www.agupdate.com/midwestmessenger/business/trade-war-losses-cost-nebraska-farmers-nearly-b/article_834eaa8a-db28-11e9-b804-c34b44116752.html

Way too much pork makes trade war bite U.S. hog markets
https://www.agupdate.com/midwestmessenger/news/livestock/way-too-much-pork-makes-trade-war-bite-u-s/article_86f3d974-bec9-11e9-9fa6-6f57a125c7d2.html

Soybean farmers fear trade war only getting worse
https://www.agupdate.com/todaysproducer/business/soybean-farmers-fear-trade-war-only-getting-worse/article_ddbbecf6-7103-11e9-a19d-57ab26ee0a7d.html

Farmer sentiment collapsing as financial conditions continue to decline in rural U.S.
https://www.agupdate.com/midwestmessenger/markets/farmer-sentiment-collapsing-as-financial-conditions-continue-to-decline-in/article_c93b75aa-88a3-11e9-8f13-eb0731b59474.html

Nebraska corn farmers outraged by Trumps broken promises
https://www.agupdate.com/midwestmessenger/news/crop/nebraska-corn-farmers-outraged-by-trump-s-broken-promises/article_42b50022-d011-11e9-bab3-dbc5304f0989.html

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Unbridled9 posted...

Trump will not get a third term. It's illegal and a violation of the constitution. The Supreme Court would unquestionably invalidate his attempt to do so. Not to mention that both the house and senate would side against it. And even if that didn't happen pretty much everyone would refuse to vote for him for a third term simply because they're well aware of the two-term limit. So even if he did, somehow, run via a loophole or the like he'd lose unless he literally ran unopposed or the other candidates were so bad the people would rather break the constitution/bill of rights than let the other person(s) in office.

About the ONLY way I can see Trump getting a third term is if a war was declared that resulted in the capitol being destroyed while basically everyone was inside of it (except Trump of course) as well as managing to kill the candidates right before election and people voting to give him a third term due to an extrenious circumstance. Even then I suspect they'd try to force Pence to become the de-facto president rather than letting Trump have three.

He also could run as a Vice Presidential candidate and if his running mate won and then resigned hed become the President for another term. Its not expressly disallowed under any of the provisions governing term limits.

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Jen0125 posted...

Having different political opinions from your country leader doesn't make them a bad world leader. There are plenty of good world leaders in Europe. There are thriving Nordic countries with hugely high levels of citizen satisfaction.

Like Norway, which makes a ton of their money from oil and invests it in its own people? The only thing our oil is good for is free healthcare. Jays right. Trudeau is a shit and it just goes to show how many people out there dont have a clue that he could even make minority government after what hes done here. It doesnt help that Toronto has something like fifty seats that all vote red and Ontario alone has 1/3 of all seats in Canada.

DPsx7 posted...

Tariffs are meant to encourage business to stay within the US and it's a surprise anyone could be against that.

Nothing surprises me anymore.

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zebatov posted...

The only thing our oil is good for is free healthcare.

And how is that bad?

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DPsx7 posted...

A tired excuse. Every hater loves to use all the buzzwords - racist, liar, etc. But when pressured for examples they crumble and go into professional victim mode. Tariffs are meant to encourage business to stay within the US and it's a surprise anyone could be against that.

Higher tariffs means YOU are paying more for goods. America raises tariffs for goods coming into the country, and companies raise prices to offset the higher tariffs, and lay off employees. Nobody wins a tariff war.

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TyVulpine posted...

Higher tariffs means YOU are paying more for goods. America raises tariffs for goods coming into the country, and companies raise prices to offset the higher tariffs, and lay off employees. Nobody wins a tariff war.

You know youre talking to a wall, right?

He/she will just say, Man, what TyVulpine is saying is making sense. BUT... GOP elected officials are backing Trump, and theyre smart guys. I trust them more than I do some guy on GameFAQS. So, I am still correct. Tariffs good.

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Is this what political discussion has devolved into? Discussing whether he will have a third term or not?

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Alpha218 posted...

Is this what political discussion has devolved into? Discussing whether he will have a third term or not?

Apparently. It's a no holds barred now.

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Alpha218 posted...

Is this what political discussion has devolved into? Discussing whether he will have a third term or not?

its pretty obvious he wants the US government to become part of the trump family business for the foreseeable future

and theres plenty of evidence of what happens to trump businesses

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

its pretty obvious he wants the US government to become part of the trump family business for the foreseeable future

and theres plenty of evidence of what happens to trump businesses

And his base call for Don Jr in 2024, Ivanka in 2032, and even Barron eventually.

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Alpha218 posted...

Is this what political discussion has devolved into? Discussing whether he will have a third term or not?

When people hate democracy and just want to "own" libs, yeah.

SaltyAndSweet posted...

its pretty obvious he wants the US government to become part of the trump family business for the foreseeable future

and theres plenty of evidence of what happens to trump businesses

Just like the Roosevelts, Kennedys, Bushs, and Clintons before him.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

Just like the Roosevelts, Kennedys, Bushs, and Clintons before him.

guess we should just let him do whatever he wants then, because whataboutism

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

guess we should just let him do whatever he wants then, because whataboutism

There is inherently nothing wrong, as far as the law is concerned, with him keeping the office of President of the United States in the family as long as the family is duly elected. It has happened before and likely will happen again.

There is something wrong with the attitude that because you dont like the current President that there should be resistance against anyone else in his family from running and/or being elected, despite the fact that those family members may or may not have a differing view than him.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

There is inherently nothing wrong, as far as the law is concerned, with him keeping the office of President of the United States in the family as long as the family is duly elected. It has happened before and likely will happen again.

There is something wrong with the attitude that because you dont like the current President that there should be resistance against anyone else in his family from running and/or being elected, despite the fact that those family members may or may not have a differing view than him.

trump has exhibited an unprecedented and brazen pattern of corruption and disregard for the law and the well being of most americans so him and his entire brood loses any benefit of the doubt as long as theyre defending the sack of shit and the awful decisions he had been making

fuck the trumps

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So why did Mike Huckabee say Trump could run for a third term? This seems to have come up a few months ago, and it seems that the 22nd Amendment says it's totally illegal for someone to be elected President more than twice, no matter what the circumstances are.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2019/oct/02/kaya-jones/donald-trump-third-term-failed-impeachment-would/

OmegaM posted...

So why did Mike Huckabee say Trump could run for a third term?

I really think it was just to make headlines. It's an asinine statement, so it worked. It gets people talking about it versus other things, even if just for a few hours.

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Jen0125 posted...

If a Democrat said anything like this Republicans would have a complete meltdown

they are in perma-tantrum mode anyway. if everything was perfect, they'd just find something else to be mad at.

He's trying to make a funny. But not as funny as this Christmas card.

https://imgur.com/NPoQyKK
That fitness buff in the middle murdered a dog at a Boy Scout Camp and "accidentally" tried to bring a loaded gun onto an airplane.
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OmegaM posted...

So why did Mike Huckabee say Trump could run for a third term? This seems to have come up a few months ago, and it seems that the 22nd Amendment says it's totally illegal for someone to be elected President more than twice, no matter what the circumstances are.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2019/oct/02/kaya-jones/donald-trump-third-term-failed-impeachment-would/

So the civil war happened because the south saw the writing on the wall. The nation was progressing in a way they did not like and they chose to not allow things to peacefully progress.

We are seeing a similar example with the republican party. The nation is not heading in a direction friendly to their current platform and instead of adjusting they seem to be attempting to force conflict. Some Republicans actually think we are heading towards a civil war for reasons other than economic inequality.

The idea that Trump can get a blatantly and completely unconstitutional 3rd term just because he is a criminal is completely without merit.

BlackScythe0 posted...

So the civil war happened because the south saw the writing on the wall. The nation was progressing in a way they did not like and they chose to not allow things to peacefully progress.

We are seeing a similar example with the republican party. The nation is not heading in a direction friendly to their current platform and instead of adjusting they seem to be attempting to force conflict. Some Republicans actually think we are heading towards a civil war for reasons other than economic inequality.

The idea that Trump can get a blatantly and completely unconstitutional 3rd term just because he is a criminal is completely without merit.

Republicans have a history of claiming to love the Constitution, yet show theyre willing to disregard it at the drop of a hat if its inconvenient.

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No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

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Cause trump and the republicans care what the constitution says /s

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

trump has exhibited an unprecedented and brazen pattern of corruption and disregard for the law and the well being of most americans so him and his entire brood loses any benefit of the doubt as long as theyre defending the sack of shit and the awful decisions he had been making

fuck the trumps

So guilt by association it is then?

Reason enough why some people shouldn't be allowed to have their opinions considered, yet thankfully for them the constitution makes it so they can. Everyone deserves their own chances in life and any decisions about them should be based on their actions and their actions alone.

Just like how Ive lost respect for you based on your actions.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

So the civil war happened because the south saw the writing on the wall. The nation was progressing in a way they did not like and they chose to not allow things to peacefully progress.

We are seeing a similar example with the republican party. The nation is not heading in a direction friendly to their current platform and instead of adjusting they seem to be attempting to force conflict. Some Republicans actually think we are heading towards a civil war for reasons other than economic inequality.

The idea that Trump can get a blatantly and completely unconstitutional 3rd term just because he is a criminal is completely without merit.

You do realize that the Republicans are their current party in power and the ones upset about how the nation is progressing are the Democrats, right? Its literally the exact opposite of what you just said. Democrats in California want to secede from the United States to get away from Trump, which based upon history would automatically trigger a second Civil War. The Republicans in California simply want to secede from California and create a new State, not leave the country completely.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

So guilt by association it is then?

Reason enough why some people shouldn't be allowed to have their opinions considered, yet thankfully for them the constitution makes it so they can. Everyone deserves their own chances in life and any decisions about them should be based on their actions and their actions alone.

since you didnt actually read my post, its not guilt by association, its guilt by actual support and defense of his corruption.

if Baron or Tiffany want to run in thirty years I dont really care. But Don jr, Ivanka, and Erik can all fuck right off.

aDirtyShisno posted...

Just like how Ive lost respect for you based on your actions.

oh woe is me

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Ah yes, softening the slow and terrifying descent into autocracy.

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Well, he's wrong. FDR was the last US Pres to serve 3 terms but he actually died upon entering his 4th term. At that time there were no term limits on how many terms a Pres could serve.

This is not true today, because of the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, which was ratified in 1947 which limits a president to two terms in office.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

Well, he's wrong. FDR was the last US Pres to serve 3 terms but he actually died upon entering his 4th term. At that time there were no term limits on how many terms a Pres could serve.

This is not true today, because of the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, which was ratified in 1947 which limits a president to two terms in office.

It was because of FDR that the 22nd Amendment was passed. Before him, several presidents had run for a third term but all lost. Also, the Amendment would not have applied to Truman (who was president when the Amendment was proposed).

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Mead posted...

Cause trump and the republicans care what the constitution says /s

Its obvious that they dont.

All these years of the GOP pretending. Theyve never actually cared. I mean, if they did... would they push voter suppression as hard as they have? Its always been about staying in power.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

He also could run as a Vice Presidential candidate and if his running mate won and then resigned hed become the President for another term. Its not expressly disallowed under any of the provisions governing term limits.

He could try but I'm pretty sure that the supreme court would consider someone serving two terms then basically becoming a shadow-president would result in them cracking down and declaring it illegal. Even if they didn't they'd have a hard sell when there would be no way to hide what their plan actually was to the American people. Most likely, even if they succeeded, the courts would oust Trump and make the speaker of the house the active VP.

Short of some massive emergency I just don't think it's possible for Trump to get either a direct or indirect third term. I don't even think he'll want a third term. Take a look at some before and after photos of the presidents from before they entered into office and after they left. It's a VERY stressful job. Trump might be able to handle it better due to experience as a CEO but there's no denying that he's probably going to walk away after 8 years feeling like it's been 16; or 4 feeling like it's been 8 if he doesn't win re-election.

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Unbridled9 posted...

He could try but I'm pretty sure that the supreme court would consider someone serving two terms then basically becoming a shadow-president would result in them cracking down and declaring it illegal. Even if they didn't they'd have a hard sell when there would be no way to hide what their plan actually was to the American people. Most likely, even if they succeeded, the courts would oust Trump and make the speaker of the house the active VP.

Short of some massive emergency I just don't think it's possible for Trump to get either a direct or indirect third term. I don't even think he'll want a third term. Take a look at some before and after photos of the presidents from before they entered into office and after they left. It's a VERY stressful job. Trump might be able to handle it better due to experience as a CEO but there's no denying that he's probably going to walk away after 8 years feeling like it's been 16; or 4 feeling like it's been 8 if he doesn't win re-election.

Being a CEO and being president are two different things. Unfortunately, Trump still thinks they're the same thing, and believes Congress should be a rubber stamp for the President.

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Trump isnt gonna let any court tell him what he can or cant do

hell do it anyways and convince half the country that his actions were perfect

half the nation has become as brainwashed as many North Korean citizens at this point

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Mead posted...

since you didnt actually read my post, its not guilt by association, its guilt by actual support and defense of his corruption.

if Baron or Tiffany want to run in thirty years I dont really care. But Don jr, Ivanka, and Erik can all fuck right off.

oh woe is me

So guilt by association it is then.

Also, Id gather then that Salty is your alt?

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Unbridled9 posted...

He could try but I'm pretty sure that the supreme court would consider someone serving two terms then basically becoming a shadow-president would result in them cracking down and declaring it illegal. Even if they didn't they'd have a hard sell when there would be no way to hide what their plan actually was to the American people. Most likely, even if they succeeded, the courts would oust Trump and make the speaker of the house the active VP.

Short of some massive emergency I just don't think it's possible for Trump to get either a direct or indirect third term. I don't even think he'll want a third term. Take a look at some before and after photos of the presidents from before they entered into office and after they left. It's a VERY stressful job. Trump might be able to handle it better due to experience as a CEO but there's no denying that he's probably going to walk away after 8 years feeling like it's been 16; or 4 feeling like it's been 8 if he doesn't win re-election.

There is no precedent for the Supreme Court interpreting a law that drastically from its original text to the extent that theyd literally be adding words to it. Theres a difference between trying to decide exactly who the 2nd Amendment applies to because it has too many damn confusing commas in it and adding or the Vice President to the 22nd. One is interpreting the text thats there and the other is assuming that text was inadvertently left off by accident.

What would be more likely would be for Congress to ram a new Amendment through to close the loophole, but it still wouldnt likely apply to Trump even if it magically did pass because it would still have to be ratified and that wouldnt likely be a quick process.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

There is no precedent for the Supreme Court interpreting a law that drastically from its original text to the extent that theyd literally be adding words to it. Theres a difference between trying to decide exactly who the 2nd Amendment applies to because it has too many damn confusing commas in it and adding or the Vice President to the 22nd. One is interpreting the text thats there and the other is assuming that text was inadvertently left off by accident.

What would be more likely would be for Congress to ram a new Amendment through to close the loophole, but it still wouldnt likely apply to Trump even if it magically did pass because it would still have to be ratified and that wouldnt likely be a quick process.

Any new Amendment would take 3-7 years for 37 states to approve if.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

So guilt by association it is then.

its not guilt by association, its guilt by actual support and defense of his corruption.

wake up dudebro

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Mead posted...

wake up dudebro

Stop being so salty.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

Stop being so salty.

no

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aDirtyShisno posted...

Stop being so salty.

isnt there some unconscious woman somewhere you should be creepily photographing?

lmao

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