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TopicHearthstone Discussion Topic - August 2018 Edition (2) - Wizbang is Wonderful!
Forceful_Dragon
08/26/18 2:34:54 PM
#115
It is when you're shaman.

Even Hunter is interesting too.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 6:10:07 PM
#422
Forceful_Dragon posted...
Bold is flipped town.
Italics is flipped scum.

N1:
Ed jailed Corrik
Corrik is blocked by Ed
Panth doc saved Tony
Sultan guarded Panth
SheePJ scanned...MZero or Tange? (innocent)
Puns tracked Sultan to Panth
Puns tracked EDumey nowhere

Zach shot Corrik (saved by Ed)
Tony claimed blocked
-
Scum janitored Plum

.
.

N2:
Ed jailed Panth
Corrik guarded ??
Panth is blocked by Ed
Sultan guarded FD
SheePJ scanned...Tange or MZero? (innocent)
Puns tracked Han nowhere

Tony claimed blocked
-
Scum shot either Corrik or his BG target

.
.

N3:
Ed ??
Panth ??
SheePJ scanned Dumey (guilty)
Sultan claims blocked
Puns tracked Death nowhere

Tony claims blocked
-
Ed and Panth die

.
.

N4:
Sultan bodyguards Sheep
SheePJ scanned Scare (innocent)
Puns tracked Crescent nowhere

Tony watches Sheep, sees Red and Sultan target
-
Red and Sultan die

.
.

N5:
SheePJ ??
Puns tracked Tony to Puns

Tony watches Puns, no one visits
-
Sheep dies.

.
.

N6:
Puns ??
-
Tony and Puns die.

.

.

N7:
-
Crescent dies.


Was there a mistake here or is ben not inno scanned
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 6:07:34 PM
#417
DoubleTangicide posted...
I have Zach and Han over Ben because I 100% believe chris did not put a godfather janitor in this game


I don't remember ben being scanned inno from the list of actions but maybe i overlooked something.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 5:55:31 PM
#403
ColZach posted...
It was premeditated, it was a response to Zams claim


These are opposite things.

Do you realize that?
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 5:52:25 PM
#400
ColZach posted...
Tange you really need to reconsider my alignment.

I confirmed eaed. Admitted to a failed shot on Corrik. Asked for the claim d1 that got zam lynched.


You potentially admitted to the scum extra kill that failed n1.

You asked for the claim on the scum that was clearly in a prearrange day 1 bus.

Those don't mean anything by themselves. But your tone this game has stayed consistently genuine, so you get points for that.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 5:51:07 PM
#399
DoubleTangicide posted...
Im convinced either you or Zach is scum


I'm having trouble understanding why Ben is below zach on your list.

I've tried to steer clear of mentioning it, because it takes us into some 'icky' feeling territory, but zach made a post outside of these topics that should absolutely have been a MK if he were scum. The fact that it should have 100% been a MK as scum means it should probably have also been a MK as town. But regardless it's a situation where scum zach *IS* MK'd every single time, and town zach *MIGHT* be modkilled at host discretion.

And it's gross and potentially wrong to look at it that way, and it's not the "right" way to play mafia. But that's the situation and it makes me sure that zach has to be town :/
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TopicThe "Add me in Pokemon Go for Celebi" Topic
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 5:48:24 PM
#36
my egg page is perpetually full so that's never an issue <_<
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 3:21:40 PM
#348
HanOfTheNekos posted...
When the final three is Zach, Ben, and Tange, who would you want lynched?


I was leaning ben last night before bed, but based on your iso he seems like a much more clear choice.

But that is if you are town and if what you are saying today can really be trusted.

So if the game doesn't just end today then i would have to agree with your read.
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TopicThe "Add me in Pokemon Go for Celebi" Topic
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 2:15:51 PM
#34
Gatarix posted...
It's not too bad. Just send out gifts while you're out walking and then spin a new set.


I won't likely be available to be out pokemonning looking enough to do that except maybe 2 or 3 times a week. I was hoping on those occasions i could spin up 30~ gifts and have enough for everyone every day. I will have to reconsider how i dispense gifts but might at least be good for 3-4 gifts a week if i get a system down.
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Topic~MLB Discussion Topic 5~ i hate everything
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 4:52:50 AM
#47
Giants were up 6-0 today.

They lost 6-7 in extra innings.

Again with the extra innings -_-
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 4:46:56 AM
#318
HanOfTheNekos posted...
FD, I don't want you to get annoyed because I keep saying things to you, but it would really help to have your perspective here.


I'm not sure you will care for it once you read it, but there you have it <_<
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/25/18 4:45:36 AM
#317
For as inactive as yesterday was Crescent did a lot of the posting. Within those posts she mostly sought to try to reason what tools scum has or had at their disposal and what their perspective would have been on certain game events. Here are some brief paraphrased excerpts of Crescent posts:

~Crescent Remarks: Day 7 Edition~

Says town has a lot of misfire potential

Assumes zach is town

Tony flipping scun means red was godfather/ninja

We're probably not looking for godfather, just scum

That scum is Han

Tony tried to distance himself from Han at the end

Death is 2nd worst compared to Han.

Scum probably knew puns was a tracker when he faked tracker

Death has been a nonfactor.

Scum also probably assumed there was a tracker from the beginning on account of having unscanneable and a scum watcher.

I still feel it's most likely han or Death.


.

Now it clearly wasn't death, but was Crescent silenced for her activity (which was significant) or for her opinions specifically, which was that Zach could not be scum and that Han was probably scum. Beyond those two she seemed to be looking past Tange on account of the inno scan.

.

Now aside from myself I feel Zach is the least likely to be scum.

I don't know if Han is the kind of scum that would silence crescent for pushing for his lynch. That would be like Yomi layer 0 of making the move to remove a threat. But he would expect that we would see that and understand it's purpose. Unless he expects us to take it the step further and view it as exonerating him because he would not be so foolish as to do the most obvious thing. It all becomes WIFOM, but the layers are there and the logic exists from both sides.

But if it isn't Han then I'm not sure if Ben or Tange is the kind of scum that would kill someone who was pushing for someone else's lynch just so we would see that and lynch him next.

In either case it feels significant that she was killed.

.

But the name of the game today has been Han vs Ben and to me I'm not convinced that we're looking at town vs town. If Occam's razor has Han as scum, then that just ends the game. But in the event that he isn't, then Ben's play is to get Han today, kill me tonight, and the pact with Tange guarantee's that Zach goes down tomorrow? Ben also has been quick to point out Zach's mafia general post as a town mark in his favor, but that could just be Ben being salty that a modkill was not handed down for that making his job just that much harder.

Between killing Han and Ben then, I'm not sure we could lose. But that would rely on Tange breaking pact tomorrow and not just giving up the win.

These at least are my musings after reading through today's posts from everyone and crescent's posts from yesterday. I'll sleep on it and should have more time to post tomorrow (yes, really).

I'm sorry you have to put up with my inactivity, but I think a replacement at this point would take far to long to get up to speed and I know that I will have time to post. I hope at the very least I've done right by crescent today.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/24/18 10:57:26 PM
#272
Day 3
[10] - IGCD - (Han), Panth, Puns, red, MZero, Eaed, FD, EDumey, Ben, Scare, Tony
[6] - red - (IGCD), (Sultan), (IGCD), Crescent, (Ben), (Sheep), Han, (Puns), IGCD, Death, Zach, (Scare), Tange

He did not.
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Topic~MLB Discussion Topic 5~ i hate everything
Forceful_Dragon
08/24/18 10:55:29 PM
#45
"See 1B is really working out for him!"

Don't you love it when people do the wrong going but then something good happens so they try to say it was actually the right thing
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TopicI'm on Oahu right now, Hurricane Lane incoming.
Forceful_Dragon
08/24/18 10:53:18 PM
#43
Where are they called cyclones?
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/24/18 7:16:06 PM
#230
Sorry that took so long. There was a shooting at my parent's neighbor's house and they are pretty shook up about it. One of the neighbor's kids (19 y/o) was killed and he was shot right on the edge of their property.

I'm still gonna go through crescent's stances from yesterday, but it's gonna take me a bit longer unless someone else wants to get on that.

The one thing I'm noting from the actions list is there is an awful lot of confirmed town actions and very few actions that could even be attributed to scum at this point. This just makes it even likelier that a kill was stopped n1 and that the janitor was an extra kill. Other than that observation nothing significant is coming to mind.

So yeah i'll be back later with the Voice of Crescent and we can go from there.

We should be able to at least have a really clear 2 person PoE to base our lynch(es) on.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/24/18 7:12:22 PM
#229
Bold is flipped town.
Italics is flipped scum.

N1:
Ed jailed Corrik
Corrik is blocked by Ed
Panth doc saved Tony
Sultan guarded Panth
SheePJ scanned...MZero or Tange? (innocent)
Puns tracked Sultan to Panth
Puns tracked EDumey nowhere

Zach shot Corrik (saved by Ed)
Tony claimed blocked
-
Scum janitored Plum

.
.

N2:
Ed jailed Panth
Corrik guarded ??
Panth is blocked by Ed
Sultan guarded FD
SheePJ scanned...Tange or MZero? (innocent)
Puns tracked Han nowhere

Tony claimed blocked
-
Scum shot either Corrik or his BG target

.
.

N3:
Ed ??
Panth ??
SheePJ scanned Dumey (guilty)
Sultan claims blocked
Puns tracked Death nowhere

Tony claims blocked
-
Ed and Panth die

.
.

N4:
Sultan bodyguards Sheep
SheePJ scanned Scare (innocent)
Puns tracked Crescent nowhere

Tony watches Sheep, sees Red and Sultan target
-
Red and Sultan die

.
.

N5:
SheePJ ??
Puns tracked Tony to Puns

Tony watches Puns, no one visits
-
Sheep dies.

.
.

N6:
Puns ??
-
Tony and Puns die.

.

.

N7:
-
Crescent dies.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/24/18 4:35:01 PM
#214
DoubleTangicide posted...
Yes, Janitor can TECHNICALLY be slapped on to godfather

But it doesnt make sense from a logistical standpoint

Godfather ninja? Sure. But I have never seen Godfather janitor


It does make a little sense actually, especially from a balance stand point. Godfather is a strong role that would make you immune from a cop scan. With that in mind the godfather would typically never send in the kill because of tracker/watcher fear. In this case the watcher was scum, so it's just tracker fear. But throwing janitor on there gives you an ability you *want* to use. It's additional strength, with the added downside of having to send in one of the kills and possibly being seen doing it. But the janitor happened night 1 so that reduces the chance of being spotted to a 1/20 or whatever chance of tracker puns picking exactly the right person on exactly the right night.

But brb, i'm gonna pull that master list that got made of all the claimed night actions.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/24/18 4:27:59 PM
#213
I'm really sorry, I'll be around today. I had a late night at work again and then an even later night watching hearthstone vods. I wasn't really expecting to be alive after the scanners got taken out and to be honest it's a little embarrassing. So either I played so poorly and was so off track yesterday, or crescent was playing so well and was decidedly on track.

I never even finished my next super wall after the zach wall because it just didn't seem relevant anymore.

benjamin3740 posted...
Almost like you're urging FD to waste his time today re-posting all of our posts, so that his focus is less on the present and he has less of a chance to push you.


Don't worry, I don't think we have to go back to the beginning of time to find an answer today. I think yesterday or the day before should be far enough. I'm going to start by going over any of crescent's hard stances yesterday. If crescent's voice was so important to silence then I owe it to her to keep her voice around today.
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TopicI'm on Oahu right now, Hurricane Lane incoming.
Forceful_Dragon
08/23/18 10:30:59 PM
#22
Ohana means family
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Topic~MLB Discussion Topic 5~ i hate everything
Forceful_Dragon
08/23/18 10:27:54 PM
#37
DeGrom gave up an RBI to our pitcher. Lets not be hasty.
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TopicHearthstone Discussion Topic - August 2018 Edition (2) - Wizbang is Wonderful!
Forceful_Dragon
08/23/18 7:54:25 PM
#100
I did it. I went full northshire. 3 boom bosses left.
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TopicThe "Add me in Pokemon Go for Celebi" Topic
Forceful_Dragon
08/23/18 10:57:24 AM
#26
neonreaper posted...
You can only hold 10 at a time, I think?


Thats some BS then.
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TopicThe "Add me in Pokemon Go for Celebi" Topic
Forceful_Dragon
08/23/18 2:34:50 AM
#23
Wow, with all my new friends i really need to level up up my gift game!

Ill have to stock up majorly on gifts tomorrow. So apologies to anyone who didn't get one from me today.
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TopicHearthstone Discussion Topic - August 2018 Edition (2) - Wizbang is Wonderful!
Forceful_Dragon
08/23/18 1:09:46 AM
#95
Hrmm there was one i struggled with for awhile. It was one of the healing ones and i was consistently 1-2 hp off from the play i was attempting.

But then i remembered that Witchwood piper was a demon and it all came together.
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TopicHearthstone Discussion Topic - August 2018 Edition (2) - Wizbang is Wonderful!
Forceful_Dragon
08/23/18 12:29:07 AM
#93
turbopuns2 posted...
There is one puzzle I'm completely and utterly stumped on right now. Not even going to say which because I'm not ready to throw in the towel, but it's pretty baffling because I've put it down a couple times and picked it back up later, and I haven't made any progress.

Like I've thought about it from many different angles and have thoroughly considered every single card and for the life of me I can't figure out what I'm missing. I like this sort of thing, though.


Is it one of the dr booms?

Im going in reverse order btw.

Finished all the regular healing, then board clear and im nearly finished with mirror. Then ill just have lethal followed by booms.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/22/18 9:48:53 PM
#122
Well then han can decide because i need to go back to work.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/22/18 9:47:28 PM
#120
Yeah EoD snuck up on me.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/22/18 9:45:59 PM
#118
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Hey DYL, Chris, can we break tie by pushing another lynch above the tied one?


Iirc you can't vote for anyone else in a tb
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/22/18 9:45:10 PM
#117
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Death or Zach? Who do you want dead?

Personally, I want Zach dead. Death was too involved with the plan yesterday.


Honestly im leaning v towards death. Despite my criticisms after the zach iso he still felt genuine to me.

But outside of my ability use I've been less involved than most this game so im not very confident being a tie breaker
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?
Forceful_Dragon
08/22/18 9:41:07 PM
#110
Hey all im on a 10 min break atm. I didn't realize day was ending so soon. A combination of work and emergency family stuff (as well as a dose of watching hearthstone global games ) has seen fit to rob me of my time. I was hoping to have at least another 2 uber walls done.
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Topic~MLB Discussion Topic 5~ i hate everything
Forceful_Dragon
08/22/18 12:53:34 AM
#25
RIP Giants post season. Can't even beat the Mets.

Still can finish with the 81-81 dream though.
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TopicHearthstone Discussion Topic - August 2018 Edition (2) - Wizbang is Wonderful!
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 9:22:00 PM
#81
Because the healing totem is also an end of turn effect so in theory the damage is being healed as it occurs. I guess?
But then its weird that sequencing matters for things like coffin crasher in otk mecha'thun priest but the damage is not truly resolved until the very end of turn.

Id be curious to see what happens if you had a healing totem on your board and did the combo. Would itb survive with 1 hp? Or would the healing occur first and then 10 damage still kills it?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 187: On a Motherloving Cop
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 5:33:28 PM
#422
Paratroopa1 posted...
why do I get like, jon bois vibes from this tweet


I would love to get all my political news delivered to me by jon bois. I'd watch an hour+ length Chart Party that broke down and connected everything.
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Topic~MLB Discussion Topic 5~ i hate everything
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 5:12:28 PM
#22
Im glad the giants picked up a win but im sad we lost 3 to the reds before we did it.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 187: On a Motherloving Cop
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 5:10:27 PM
#414
TopicThe "Add me in Pokemon Go for Celebi" Topic
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 3:18:03 PM
#17
Added everyone up to current!

And howdy to Master Moltar, seeing your name again was a pleasant surprise!
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 187: On a Motherloving Cop
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 2:58:11 PM
#370
"Well yeah he's a criminal, but we pretty much assumed that before we elected him so it doesn't matter!"
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 2:56:15 PM
#416
He didn't mix them up specifically. Not like this game.

In TT zam made a post with thoughts on a few users. Two of those thoughts were:

-i think zach is scum

-the emoji duo seems town

.

This disregarding the fact that zach was one of the "emoji duo". So he called the same person town and scum in the same breath. I pointed out how scummy it was because it indicated just how little he was paying attention and he was just posting thoughts to appear town regardless ofv what those thoughts were. I think that was the day i got lynched -_-
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TopicHearthstone Discussion Topic - August 2018 Edition (2) - Wizbang is Wonderful!
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 2:33:21 PM
#73
Tom Bombadil posted...
has twitch plays hearthstone been done yet


Yes. Disguised Toast set it up at some point. I think he had chat win a game against the inn keeper or one of the chess tavern brawls? I don't remember exactly.

Then he gave chat access to his library for a few minutes and expensive cards were crafted and or dusted. It was a memey good time.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 2:11:18 PM
#404
Ah, that could be it then. It would also help explain scum's seeming lack of power. Flavor meta is banned this game and they could safely fake claim any role that town doesn't have with such a list.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 2:05:55 PM
#396
htaeD posted...
Uhm
something just occured to me, FD
why would scum have a list of town roles
AND a scum detective???


That is actually a fantastic point. I hadn't connected those dots.

But then I just don't know how to explain zam and tony both claiming watcher into a completely unknown field. If anyone has an explanation for this that doesn't involve scum having advance knowledge (because this was day 1 lets not forget) then I'm all ears.
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TopicHearthstone Discussion Topic - August 2018 Edition (2) - Wizbang is Wonderful!
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 2:03:22 PM
#66
Ulti, here is what you are saying:

Skill is never ever a factor in hearthstone.
RNG is the only factor in hearthstone.


Here's what we are saying:

Skill is a factor in hearthstone.
RNG is also a factor in hearthstone.


.

Your "never ever" insistence borders on the absurd. It's clear to everyone else that there are elements of randomization and elements of skill. And that part of being skillful is making optimal plays based on the percentage chance of certain outcomes. Such as "my only chance to win is to kill their taunt and pop their piloted shredder and hope a doomsayer pops out". Yes, if that happened it would be based on a random effect, but it would still presuppose that the player had the skill to recognize their only possible out and to play towards that out.

See also: "I can clear the board if I play twisted nether, but then they get to establish board again, so my only winning play is to play mind control tech and hope I steal the lich king". It's a losing play 75% of the time, but it's skillful to realize that in some situations twisted nether is a losing play nearly 100% of the time, so you take your chance where you can get it.

.

.

So let's try this. Ulti, if you feel like making a post about RNG, I want you to go to random.org and randomize a number between 1 and 30. If you get a 1 then go ahead and make the post. And the rest of us will take it as the "ulti complains" card was the top card in your deck and we couldn't possibly avoid it. Otherwise put a pin in it until next time.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 1:56:50 PM
#393
If scum has a list of town roles (which zam/tony indicates) it wouldn't necessarily be for no reason.

Im also concerned that zach did not hint this action on day 2 at any point. He alluded to it on day 3 saying he considered eaed confirmed but that he didn't want to explain why. He could have made this same remark on day 2 so if he died that night we would read it and realize what happened.
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TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 11:43:22 AM
#125
ScareChan posted...
If you only have so much time you need to skim and basically skip people's catch up walls


I can't say that i agree with this part :P
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 10:49:33 AM
#368
htaeD posted...
The vig claim came right at the tail end of all claims, alongside Mzero's bombclaim.


The vig claim was a same time claim with the cop claim. It was during day 3 when sheep replaced pj.

Im not sure why a same time was beneficial at all considering Zach's claimed action was fully isolated from anything else, but that at least was when it happened.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 4:11:18 AM
#358
FD's thoughts on the Zach Wall:

The first thing that comes to mind is just how insistent Zach has been regarding his being "confirmed" and his "day 1 play" (regarding zam). It's striking because a very small portion of his day 1 was even regarding Zam. Other people were making posts at Zam and Zach chimed in with just a few posts. The first couple about the "auto correct" and the 3rd saying "will you claim?". Not demanding or requiring a claim or really applying much pressure at all. And the rest from there was history, but it feels more like a team of professional builders constructed a house, and zach was in the background when they took a group photo and he points to it saying "I was there!" and taking credit for the house they built. Yeah, he was there, but it became such a recurring theme for his posts moving forward that I'm not sure about it.

A large chunk of posts were also dedicated to arguing with Han. If there was more than 1 scum left after reading this I would say pretty confidently that they could not both be scum, because damn is that obvious now.

Zach also had about as many posts from day 1 as he did from the other 4 days combined, but he did cite a busier schedule on several of those days so I'm sure that contributed.

And as I mentioned at the top in my general thoughts, the fact that it's clear that scum had knowledge of town roles (or lake thereof) makes things like Zach's vig claim look very shaky. In particular a vig claim because it feels like an extra kill must have been missing somewhere. Perhaps not missing then, but claimed as a town action without the fear of a vig counter claim?

.

.

Now I know that was an eyeful, but as I said you don't have to read everything. I personally found it helpful to read and also helpful to put together as far as putting my own thoughts into perspective, so by posting it I am hoping to give you that same help. But feel free to skim or skip.

From Zach it seemed obvious to do Han next, so I've got that one started, but I wont be finished tonight. Expect it tomorrow, hopefully before noon PST.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 4:07:22 AM
#357
Day 5:

.

Did we ever get that crescent scan? I believe the lynch today is scare, han looks good to me now. 6 scum total so 2 left.

Oh yeah sheep has a scan ##scare

Okay scanned scum. See you next game (to scare)

Who's your last scumbuddy? (to scare)

Actually I lied i'll probably take the next game off because I've been told i've played poorly this game.

I've been a little bitter about acting today for various reasons, but i've also been busy. Feeling town fatigue and I understand where zam is coming from. . It strikes me as odd that ur bad is rhetoric used so frequently. Last scum I think has to be han if I had to pick.

More thoughts about his arguments and defenses led me to it. (responding to puns asking zach why he said han looked good before)

I'm still absolutely baffled that people think I could be scum given my day 1. You are all highly over estimating my abilities. I railed zam because i'm town. I admitted to shooting corrik and i same timed with sheep because i'm town.

I feel like puns is full of shit but I don't know how to express why.

[End day 5]
[End Zach Wall]

.
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 4:06:38 AM
#356
Eaed is town. I'd elaborate on this, but I'd really rather not.

Had did I miss your grand finale? If you give me a topic and post number i'll check it out. Also I want sheep to claim and I think we should lynch sheep or red today.

I'm kind of arround, what's up. Want to do a same time claim?

Sheep you're making me not want to same time as you.

X:35 (regarding same time claim timing)

I'm hyped, get ready for it.

I took a shot at corrik night 1. I'm the town vig.

Oh and I'm pop-u-lar.

Yeah that's why I consider Eaed confirmed. My shot on corrik was processed but he didn't die.

He asked if he could target himself? That is not a good look.

Han you've been wrong on every single one of your reads so far. In retrospect I should have shot you N1.

I've gotten most of my reads right and yours have been wrong. ##Han

"Perspective slip" Haha. There better be a topic on the scumboard with that title.

This seemed like an easy post from sultan, sliding out of trouble.

I love the way you described me (re: shee's description of zach)

I'd stop railing on han if he'd stop being wrong.

##Unvote ##Red He's been kinda slimy all game and corrik would want it to happen.

Corrik is our mascot whether we like it or not

If panth gives us any funny business tomorrow he dies.

Don't follow han, he hasn't led anything pro town all game.

Gamefaqs can't handle my next level plays.

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Day 4:

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I'm really upset because i thought we were lynching red yesterday. Panth's death is unfortunate. Does eaed's flip make me town? please?

Why would scum confirm someone? Our lynch today is red but we need to hear from tony and sheep.

Red/Han/Ben most likely scum. Goes on to list how he feels about rest of town. (It's T9, P13 if you are curious) The only thing of note seems to be Zach saying "sultan seems scummier today than yesterday" despite sultan having yet to post that day.

I tried to do a list for you puns, but all I really foudn out was that Sheep. I truest Mzero/Tange as a result. I don't really trust Han/Scare/Ben/Death.

Ah SUltan yes. I wouldn't say I dont distrust him but he's the one I distrust most in the group of neutral people that I also do not trust. I'd lynch him. (I did not change a word of this one because lol what?)

We got alakazam on some dumb shit like that (I believe referring to red typing the wrong name at some point). Between puns / scare+red I'd want to be on puns side.

Would feast for crows not count (referencing a previous mafia game)

Wasn't there some fake claim nonsense from scare that made panth look bad? Have we discussed this yet?

I don't like that handwave scare, that's what scum would do. Why are you making me agree with han?

Big list of people zach thinks could be scum. Lists 10 people with reasons. (Topic 10 Post 45)

It would be a terrible vig shot because i'm confirmed town.

I genuinely think with the actions i've taken this game that I should be, but I wont waste time arguing with you.

I mean seriously between eaed and my efforts on zm I feel like there's enough concrete evidence to support it.

You're innocent scanned so i left you off my list (to mzer)

We really need to more heavily consider the janitor N1. Sheep could be throwing us for a major loop.

I misremembered and got my streams crossed. (mzero pointed out that tange was also inno scanned)

I'd vote dumey, but i haven't seen votals and have we seen crescent? Did I miss her scan?
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TopicSir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 14: Bob Marley Man
Forceful_Dragon
08/21/18 4:06:12 AM
#355
Why can't you discuss why you thought zam was town?

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I missed his(corrik's) claim. Would you mind claiming again?

Joke to corrik about him calling himself "town's only hope".

So corrik is confirmed, and we'll lynch him tomorrow.

Corrik already claimed he isn't reading the topic. It's an easy lynch tomorrow.

That is fair to corrik. (re: corrik being at a wedding during day 1)

Where is han to yell about perspective slips. (not sure what regarding)

I didn't tell you to counterclaim (to tony). Why would scum do what I did with my zam pressure?

He isn't confirmed and neither am I, so we'll both live til tomorrow (re: corrik)

I led the charge on zam when I pressed him to claim.

I should get credit for zam's lynch. Meanwhile corrik is saying he should get credit for not reading day 1 and arguing against a scum lynch.

I'm town and I stayed on zam because he didn't drop flavor, his claim as weak, and he was still acting scummy. Apologies to zam if you thought I was hating you or calling you stupid.

Post regarding rule 5 and mentioning flavors.

He (zam) said it would get him modkilled)

I don't care if flavor means nothing. He fake claimed and didn't drop flavor. Why?

It's not weird when I already didn't trust him.

I just don't see the logic that if I was scum I would have pressured zam that hard when I could have kept arguing with han instead.

If we word bubbled this game the two biggest words would be perspective and confirmed.

Zam was scummy before, during and after his claim. I can't believe i'm defending a day 1 scum lynch.

corrik you aren't going to like any answer I give. You can tell me after the game if I made a bad play but I didn't believe his (zam's) claim.

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Day 2:

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Ahum, okay then. (re: puns calling leo scum, I believe)

I dislike leo more given plum was killed.

Where's tony.

Why did panth claim?

Leave it to han to say my vote of scum looks bad. Wake up and let me carry you. ##Panth

I never once pushed a han lynch, stop being bad.

I don't believe puns would fake a scan on you (to leo). If you have other information you should say it.

Guys, please think zach is scummy with me. (mocking han)

If you are town you have better things to do than beg people to analyze me. (to han)

Leo looks like scum for yesterday and today. Panth looks like scum for today. I din't like corrik yesterday. Tony is town. Crescent is town.

This post gives you town points for what it's worth (to han)

I mean, Han you were wrong about Tony and his check-in post.

He just said he thought I was scummy for a check in post and he's already been blatantly wrong this game about tony.

We should not post past #475

We'll lynch you day 4 after we lynch panth and leo (to corrik)

Sorry for the lack of posts this morning. I had DMV then sleep then hearthstone and I have dnd game tonight, but i'll catch up after.

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Day 3:

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Corrik not scum? color me incorrect. ##Panth

I have a lot to catch up with. I skimmed but I have no clue what is up with panth.

I'v ebeen behind for about 20 hours. I still want to lynch panth. I enjoyed Mzero vs Hans. Crescent has some indecisive posts. Sultan seems mad.

Han you made a good argument.

##Un:Panth. We can lynch him tomorrow if anything goes wrong. My leads are a little dry right now. I think one of Han/Mzero is scum. I want to lynch pj just on policy.
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