Lurker > Corrik7

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik please promise youll kill FD so Lopen claims.

He wants itzknight. I'm not doing that.

Lopen posted...

I will only claim if Corrik kills who I want

Otherwise forget it

I'm not killing obvious town. Choose someone else.

If that isn't town ulti Idk what is.

Ulti defending Lopen hard while also saying obvious town vig is scum all day.

UltimaterializerX posted...

But seriously, this is very very probably town Lopen. He should live.

Then he should claim.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I am the balls.

From the back, ofc

Lopen has no balls. He won't even claim.

PunishedBen posted...

And i am the breath of Lopen

Ben dies first. Can't speak if you have no breath.

Lea dies next. She is the voice of Lopen

Claim or die. It's that simple.

Lopen posted...

Corrik I want a refund this command seal leaves much to be desired

What

Lopen posted...

...? Don't like that I've changed the target huh?

Correct.

I tire of this.

You can die unclaimed if you want. Your choice. Claiming is your only chance to live if town or scum. Play to win.

Lopen posted...

I change my command seal

Knightz first
Kirby second

Agree to those and I'll claim.

...

Lopen posted...

Now hold on I want contingencies just in case Chang is dead then.

My second command is for you slay Death. Agree to the terms and to do it when I say (if I'm alive, otherwise just do it at the start of the day) and I'll claim

That's fine.

Lopen posted...

Vote me Corrik

I use my command seal to order you to slay Chang

When you claim

Lopen posted...

Do I have to claim AND you vote me?

If you claim I can vote who you want today OR I can shoot them tomorrow but have to vote you today to satisfy my first demand.

PunishedBen posted...

if it was that obvious then it makes no sense that Corrik has to ##Dayvig in the topic to trigger it. That makes him the obvious odd day killer. This only works if Corrik day vigged secretly through host PM.

I'm kinda convinced we weren't supposed to get that part of the role pm and the host oopsied on that.

Lopen posted...

Do you shoot if I want if I get lynched?

Yes

I could agree to that Lopen but then I have to vote for you today.

Lopen posted...

I'll claim if you shoot who I want tomorrow

Hmmmm.

UltimaterializerX posted...

If you have a shot tomorrow, for the love of all things keep it in your pants for a bit.

Nope

Lopen if you claim I'll vote who you want with you. If not, I vote you. Your choice.

Nvm I see them

Votals

I cant tell if Lopen actually believes the stuff he says every game lol

Enchantress posted...

I've seen the errors of my no lynching ways. What do you think of our mutual pal Lopen?

Kill them all.

Enchantress posted...

It's difficult to fully commit to the "see you day two life" when Ulti keeps saying inaccurate things. Perhaps that was the 4D level tactic all along, but I was not mislynched for inactivity when I was miller. I was mislynched for not claiming Miller in my first post, Ulti was explicit about this many, many times. After all, I was a major contributor to the only scum who died in that entire mafia game. When my posts are always ignored and my wins are immediately forgotten, who can really blame a gal for not posting D1 when met with so many very different irritating stale boring arguments.

It's always hard to tell what's scum inconsistency and what's just baseline insanity, with Ulti specifically, but it could be a fabricated reason to not go after me even if you're the SCUM IS ALWAYS INACTIVE KILL THE SCUM NOT THE TALKY MAN king.

I'm more worried about Lopen though. He started off decently with his whole "Voting no lynch isn't Lea's personality, could be low energy from GF being shot, etc". But as I petulently lurked, repelled by truly dull arguments about no lynching, I saw Lopen came to my defense. Struck me as out of character.

Knightz, Chang, Kirby, Ben, Corrik, all reliably town. I'd say more but my kids have wrestling, you know how it is. I ask you respect my pacifist no lynch beliefs. Sure it may be traditionally risk averse and boring, but it's also never been done before. We can all get along as friends

Baseball game today

And so the bubble was burst.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Voting for No Lynch =/= Not Looking for scum.

I'm still looking for scum, and I have some thoughts, but I'm not willing to VOTE on those thoughts today. I'm just an uninformed member of town, my thoughts are often wrong. The strategy to mitigate risk is more important than my thoughts on who might be scum.

Then you should never vote any game ever.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Who says?

I will absolutely try to lynch people starting day 2.

But if you're lynching me to try to find scum yourself then you are doing it wrong.

I will absolutely try to lynch scum day 2. Might as well say I will absolutely try to lynch scum day 7. No reason town isn't trying to lynch scum every day.

NL is a fallback for we have no good options and running out of time. Not a do nothing the entire day and don't try to find scum.

Guys we are lynching FeliciaDragon. All aboard.

So be it. Won't claim and won't try to lynch scum. The gods have spoken.

##unvote:
##vote: FD

Bye, Felicia.

Lopen posted...

You're almost never active as town.

You're usually more active as anti-town.

Don't care about vig game specifically unless you had infinite shots

I claimed to have infinite shots.

Lopen posted...

I mean I can't be the only one seeing this

Town Corrik
- Doesn't care to post this much if he can just kill things (or in general, really)
- Would actually try to hit scum not "anti-town"

It all just feels like a convenient excuse to railroad his shots the next 3 days and get no suspicions for it

I've been vig one other time. I shot the SK in the first 20 posts of the game. And was very active that game. So, tell me where your nonsense of I would do so and so or whatever you are babbling comes from.

I was the Green Arrow that game.

Lopen posted...

Your anti-NL feels like a show to path a bunch of shots and have no accountability for it.

You're also talking way more than I'd expect you to if you could just kill at your leisure.

I don't trust you at all. You're scum at worst SK at best I think.

Then you should be voting me if I am only scum or sk.

MZero posted...

Why Kirby over FD?

Cuz FD is trying to conjure up some massive stupidity for his reasoning to try and do something completely logically unsound. And I know there is only one reason I would do the same as town.

Kirby isn't even trying.

But tbqh they all could burn in the depths of the nether for all I care if they aren't gonna start trying to find scum

Lopen posted...

I'd sooner vote you than Kirby

I'd also sooner NL than Kirby

You have no reason to have that thinking.

Lopen posted...

Kirby is a hard no from me

Ctes or Death pretty much it atm

You will vote Kirby. He will claim and get off NL or die.

Obellisk posted...

Corrik it's still technically Day 1. I don't think we need to dispatch the town traitors just yet. But whomever is your strongest scum read I'd be happy to push with you

I don't like Ben right now for reasons and red is being nefarious. Lopen isn't being his town self.

But, the NL wackos deserve mighty consideration.

Vote Kirby. Let's get rid of these NL punks. Scum or worst... town traitors.

Obellisk posted...

it'll be really funny when we special the town cop in the last 5 minutes of the day because 95% of Day 1 was spent arguing over No Lynch.

Be real funny when the cop gets shot at night when everyone wanted to NL to get a scan.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I know I'm not scum, but I don't know that i won't be lynched. Why would I remove myself from the potential lynch pool? I know my PERSONAL vote wont go on me, but that doesn't mean shit if 8 others do.

And yes, our chance of successfully lynching scum tomorrow is also low because there are always less scum than town, but no one is saying to NL day 2 so why are you bringing it up?

Day 2 is not Day 1.

This is day 2. We lynched scum day 1 and everyone forgot to put their actions in at night. Okay welcome to day 2. Now find scum or die.

Oh and my odds neglect that you yourself should know you aren't scum.

So the 4/15 should be 4/14 28.6% chance and 3/11 27.3% chance. So 1.3% difference. Even less. Like give me a tucking break

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Exactly, and not only that, but if she scans someone innocent then that creates a 1 in whatever chance that she actually prevents a mislynch on day 2 straight away by happening to have information on an innocent person who starts to get sus.

But hey, you guys do the regular thing and apply pressure on a bunch of different people today and force claims and switch pressure and force more claims and then be surprised pikachu face when multiple important town roles get outed, all to chase the low% chance of the day 1 scum lynch.

We shouldn't lynch scum tomorrow either then either since the %s are low! Wahhh.

Someone explain to me how the %a are lower now than a normal day 1. Seriously.

Let's say it was 4/15. Though I maintain 5/15 remains possible with you know the INFO we have from the scum role message.

But let's say 4/15.

27% chance of hitting scum. He wouldn't have been on board with NL then.

But now we have a dead scum. And we know Corrik and itz are town.

So now it's 3/12. 25%

What is really the statistical difference here. 1.67%?

We are going to entirely change our playstyles over a ducking 1.67% difference in odds.

And you can increase that percentage more by pressuring people and getting info to narrow it down further to even higher percentages. Maybe play mafia to find scum and increase the odds instead of acting like you rng roll your lynches.

We know multiple things. A rolecop existed for scum and it was a doubled role. Thus, likely not low power game. Godfather so cop is likely for town. No claimed miller.

Scum can't use regular kills on odd nights.

We have a lot of info to pressure people going forward. Not withstanding we have a host confirmed gig. And a relatively confirmed inventor claim.

You have the ability to force claims and start figuring out what fits and doesn't.

ItzKnightz posted...

Kirby has been nothing but nice this entire game, Ulti can vouch for him. Point is that he has not gone after someone at all this game.

Lmfao when he uses what should be scum reasoning to call someone town.

We should just lynch someone now. If the NL people didn't wanna play the game, that's their choice. We shouldn't let them suck the air out of the game by giving everyone an excuse to not try and force information to find scum.

Lopen posted...

Kirby is probably town and a bad shot

Also all his antitown behavior is over after today. No point in shooting him for antitown unless you're pretty sure he's scum

Luckily it is my choice and not yours.

Kirby321 posted...

That's incredibly lazy. But sure, whatever. Shoot me tomorrow and my blood is on your hands and yours alone.

I mean, you're just gonna call me a bad player when I flip town rather than take any accountability for your own actions, but you do you fam :P

Probably

Kirby321 posted...

Genuine question, Corrik: what's the scum equity in pushing for a NL?

Given that scum is down a member, wouldn't it be better for scum if more townies ended up dying? The odds of town getting lynched today are astronomically higher than scum getting lynched. So why would scum push for NL when the odds of them lynching town is super likely?

I just don't see the logic there. Call it anti-town, sure, but scummy? That makes zero sense.

I said one of you 3 are scum and the rest anti-town. Better to kill you all as you serve no point to finding scum/are the scum.