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Kirby321 posted...

Oh you're convinced there's no cop because nobody claimed cop when you asked them to.

I mean, it would be a pretty trollsome foil to Vanilla Cop if a cop didn't actually exist, but that feels kinda... unethical? There's better flavors of French Vanilla than "back-up but the role they're backing up doesn't actually exist"

Plus, now that I think about it, room-wide Cop seems kinda busted. You clear two town or have better odds of nailing scum with a more limited selection to choose from. So having a backup, even as a 1-shot, seems kinda strong.

Hmm... I'm not sure I'm sold, Corrik. At the very least your reason for claiming doesn't actually incriminate anyone, so I'm rather baffled why you thought this was a good idea

You mean why you thought it was a good idea.

And the cop doesn't exist. I'm waiting for a backup that will never come.

Kirby321 posted...

... I'm lost.

Vanilla Cop was a scum role. So why couldn't regular town Cop exist...?

I'm the backup to it. I know what the cop has.

Obviously my role day 1 would have been to lay low until the cop died. However, it is very apparent a cop doesn't actually exist.

So ulti and Lea look naughty.

I am Sansa Stark, Town Deputy.

I said backup day 1 multiple times.

If the Cop is killed, I get a 1 shot Cop scan of a room that says if both in the room or innocent or at least one is not.

With the Vanilla cop flip, and knowing that the cop had a 1 shot room scan as well. There is no scenario where I can imagine beyond incompetency that the cop wouldn't have claimed today. And they should have got shot. And let me get the second scan off for town.

However, there is no cop. Hence no godfather. And since I am already the misdirection role to scum vanilla cop by being a renamed vanilla, there is thus no Miller as well.

Either way, if I am wrong. You still know I am town. Take it as you will.

Okee dokee

Kirby321 posted...

If you have to ask unprompted, you likely have a good reason to. I don't care, really, but my impression of these past few posts of yours is that town Corrik has finally come online. So sure, go for it

This could be a disastrous choice. Are you willing to accept the responsibility if so?

Apparently Kirby has died. What a shame. I'll be gone for the rest of the day at 5pm too.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I mean, she claimed it only to Lopen believing he would keep it a secret.

She isn't that dumb.

JC is invested like the final puzzle piece might be coming. FD is waryingly skeptical but willing to listen.

Both town.

And probably FD

Lopen posted...

Ok here's an interesting idea

What if LEA and JC didn't want to look suspicious paired up and that's what the Peaf insanity was for and implicating Dumey was the payoff.

I still think that's a bit weird. Lea leading me down the Dumey path does kinda make that make more sense though.

JC is town, bud.

So when she thought she would be scanned, she didn't claim it prior. But when she thought she wouldn't be scanned she claimed it for literally no reason at all.

Mmmhmmm.

But now that she thinks she is safe from the scan supposedly by the end of the day, she thinks she should claim it.

Playing lazily and crappy so guaranteed to be scanned scum so didn't claim it. Yeah. Thanks.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

He already DID that.

Am I the only one who reads every post of the game?

Probably

Lopen why don't you paste her claim and surrounding context.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

During her date with Lopen, to Lopen N1

Mmmhmmmm

When did lea claim jc. Like specifically when. Not just not first post. But when.

I claim for all the world to see or for no one.

EDumey posted...

My assumption here is that Corrik has a role that affects an entire room, and with his role plus the two flipped roles that interact with rooms, that explains why he's so insistent on the setup being the way that it is.

I don't even really think we need to have Corrik claim specific details. But my question to Corrik is what percentage of certainty are you that Ulti slipped with the Miller/Godfather thing? And what percentage chance is there of Lea being a Miller?

Leas silence should tell you all you need to know. She knows she is cooked.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

You said you're like a Mayor so self confirming right?

Nah but if I claim you will all know I am town immediately.

@Kirby321 do you even mafia bro?

Enchantress posted...

Lea cannot die, only the actresses who play her

Good night, sweet princess.

Or danger or whatever

Lea is in trouble. Where is the Simpsons I'm in trouble meme

Waiting on Kirby

Enchantress posted...

Mhm

Bad choice.

Lea you sticking to your Miller claim?

Actually nevermind Kirby is town. Kirby you answer instead.

Let's see. JC should I claim? Yes or no and why.

That's lame reasoning. Who else wants me to ask it to them instead that can give good game reasoning why to or not

Lopen posted...

Why

Yes or no with reasoning.

Lopen should I claim?

No chance no godfather with a cop with 3 scum. If no godfather, no cop.

So I'll claim I think. Why not.

Or shouldn't i

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

How am I going against my reads? I still have a we9rd feeling about Chris. If the consensus is we aren't killing Chris why don't I try to talk it out with Chris amd get the best read I can? If you think I'm scum and have any incling Chris is town then same thing applys vise versa

Nobody who has roomed with Chris has survived the night.

Ulti what made you think no godfather out of nowhere for no reason?

There is 0% chance jc dumey and peaf are all 3 scum.

Kirby is town. Lopen is town.

Jc broke up with his partner also during the run of breakups right? I have no belief at all that all 3 scum tossed themselves back in.

And then if Kirby wasn't in the final 3 then he is town. Only way he would be scum is if he was in the final 3 and chose the stronger scum partner. He wasn't tho.

His argument is the final 3 are all scum? Who was the last 3?

He would have known peaf would never return and would be dead without him.

And kirby refusing to pair with him makes him town.

I'm telling you right now if there is no cop, ulti is scum who used too much info to make a wild theorization.

Kirby321 posted...

Dumey initiated the breakup between him and Peaf.

So that's not damning to dumey entirely. If peaf initiated I would think the scum-scum pair was likelier.

Tho the other partner could have been town I suppose and he felt it was scummy to not oblige. Who wanted to unpair in that group

Forceful_Dragon posted...

He didn't have any pending date requests aimed at him at that point, no. And the only request he made was to Kirby.

But did he seem like he knew who he was gonna partner with. Cuz you would think it's possible both scum were paired and figured they would both partner with a town to look good. But a town didn't choose peaf like expected.

Did peaf think he had s partner lined up when he broke up.

EDumey posted...

Corrik I still just have issues with making ANY kind of assumptions about the setup here. Could be a normal cop. Could be a room cop that only scans their partner. Could be a jack with cop scan as only one of their options. Could be a room cop that scans both people in a room and only gets a positive or negative for both. Could be no cop. There's so many options!

"No way the cop wouldn't have claimed today" is just such a strong statement that we can probably think of a dozen scenarios why they wouldn't. Including just being stubborn, which is not a trait B8 lacks.

It's impossible to have a full time cop in this game. It's town number favored. 20% scum. No chance a full time cop exists.

Chaeix posted...

Do you think a town cop would look more like the scum cop? e.g. that it scans a room and gets back a 'one person is guilty' scan?

No. It would be a there is scum present or there is no scum imo. It would town clear two barring a godfather or confirm scum is at least 1 in the room.