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TopicVictoria Justice/Holly Earl | The Greatest Smile On Earth [FINAL FOUR]
CaptainOfCrush
07/05/18 6:00:54 PM
#5
Holly's just too uncomfortably young looking.
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TopicHow masculine are you?
CaptainOfCrush
07/05/18 1:52:11 AM
#9
Bumpo.
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TopicAnna Kendrick/Audrey Hepburn | The Greatest Smile On Earth [FINAL FOUR]
CaptainOfCrush
07/04/18 10:46:53 PM
#5
Can't beat classic.
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TopicHow masculine are you?
CaptainOfCrush
07/04/18 1:15:46 PM
#1
In your own opinion, how masculine are you? - Results (20 votes)
I'm less masculine than the average man.
40% (8 votes)
8
I'm about as masculine as the average man.
25% (5 votes)
5
I'm more masculine than the average man.
35% (7 votes)
7
I'm not going to define "masculinity" or "average" here. I think we can interpret those reasonably.
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TopicIYO, how masculine are you?
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 11:27:54 PM
#11
Bumpo.
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TopicFinally got a new job. Now... should I negotiate on pay?
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 7:37:15 PM
#25
Zenithian Legend posted...
Here's an email I sent last Summer and got a few thousand bump in salary and extra week off within 30 minutes... I still wonder if I could've gotten more!

Dude, thanks so much. I'll definitely format parts of my email after yours.
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 5:12:35 PM
#393
Hardcore_Adult posted...
metaIslug posted...
ITV commentators are in desbelief that England won a PK shootout


Would YOU believe it? Even if you *did* witness that shit?

I predicted it five days ago!
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 5:11:42 PM
#391
I remember hearing about it being quite rare to win on PKs twice in a row. Makes sense - the luck can't last forever.
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:54:57 PM
#381
Time to see about hitting up the local English pub Saturday morning =)
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:52:15 PM
#372
Off humpty I love you
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:50:38 PM
#368
Crossbar bless
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:49:40 PM
#365
Fuck just fuck
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:45:58 PM
#356
Why does the English keeper walk like humpty fucking dumpty
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:43:26 PM
#354
Holy crap that blonde at the London watch party is a hard 10.

(Priorities, boys)
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:39:38 PM
#345
Time for everyone to lose a month off their lives.
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 4:33:05 PM
#342
Shoulda done way better with that
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 3:55:33 PM
#305
God dammit all
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 3:19:24 PM
#251
BANGERS AND MASH ahhh
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 2:51:55 PM
#220
My insane 0-0 England wins on PKs prediction is still alive.
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TopicWorld Cup Discussion Topic 4
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 1:52:56 PM
#184
TopicFinally got a new job. Now... should I negotiate on pay?
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 1:14:08 PM
#22
Good idea. I'll email her my general questions now and pop the negotiation question when she responds.
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TopicVictoria Justice/Sasha Grey | The Greatest Smile On Earth [Elite 8]
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 5:46:18 AM
#8
Another tough one.
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Topici can feel it coming over me. i feel it all around me.
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 3:52:48 AM
#7
All time goat-tier gaming track.
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TopicFinally got a new job. Now... should I negotiate on pay?
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 12:38:43 AM
#20
Eddv posted...
Just give them the ole "I will get back to you, I need to go decide if this offer meets my needs"

In my experience if they have a raise to give that'll get it for you.

She actually beat me to the punch there. I was surprised that she never even politely nudged me into accepting today, instead saying "you don't have to say anything now, take some time to discuss it with your family, and if you get back to me by Thursday, that'd be great."
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TopicFinally got a new job. Now... should I negotiate on pay?
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 12:37:03 AM
#18
Thanks for all the general advice, team.

One thing I wanted to ask: do you think it's better to make a negotiation request over the phone, or in writing as a response to the offer email? I have a few questions about health insurance/bonuses/etc that I wanted to run through the recruiter, and it seems reasonable to me to include the salary negotiation as part of those questions.
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TopicFinally got a new job. Now... should I negotiate on pay?
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 12:34:35 AM
#16
StealThisSheen posted...
The time off is gonna hurt any negotiating power you have, so don't shoot too high or they'll probably just pass you over

I'm hoping 65-67k isn't too high. For whatever reason, 70 represents a mental block, and I'm too hesitant to ask for it.

Menji posted...
Is this another accounting firm? Assuming it's a smaller one, I'd say go for asking for a little more.

If our hiring woes are just like they are at that firm, there aren't as many qualified applicants as you'd think. I'd guess they don't have more than a couple candidates, if any, to choose from.

Nope, I'm making the jump from public to corporate. This is a large precious metals mining company. I've actually turned down a couple public accounting jobs in the last six months because I had enough of it. Constantly tracking time, juggling charge codes, and being married to the job got old. My last job was actually remarkably tame in terms of public accounting rigors, and I still wasn't that happy with it, so the writing was on the wall that it was time to try something new.
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TopicFinally got a new job. Now... should I negotiate on pay?
CaptainOfCrush
07/03/18 12:28:52 AM
#15
Korayashi posted...
Do you feel they will rescind the offer if you try to negotiate?

The uncertainty that comes from long-term unemployment makes me fear it, but logically, I'd be pretty shocked if they did this. They are a very large company, and polite negotiation should be expected.

KingButz posted...
If you have been out of work for 6 months, think of the opportunity cost if you are out of work for another 6 because they go with someone more desperate than you.

True, though the nature of this application process leads me to believe that they're not really considering other people (or at least many). The job was never posted publicly.

KingButz posted...
Edit: what did you make at your last job

61 base + (meager) bonuses, so they've already come in a little over the top. I know that asking for more might make me appear greedy considering my situation, but I'm switching industries from public accounting to corporate, and a pay bump is commonplace when doing so. I know colleagues who went from 60 to 80-90 with a similar jump, and while I obviously can't shoot for that, I still want something a little more.

MartinFF7 posted...
It's standard procedure for a recruiter to ask what your expectations are - did that happen?

Didn't happen, surprisingly. The one time the recruiter nonchalantly said she "thought" someone at my level would get around 65k was the only time they mentioned compensation on their end. I honestly can't even remember if they asked me what my prior salary was (this dialogue began a while ago, so my memory's a little fuzzy).

But yeah, I agree with you that a rescinding of the offer seems unrealistic and cruel, especially when my request isn't ridiculous. And I'll also make sure to bring up market factors, since my gf actually JUST got a new job making 65k in a position not too dissimilar to mine, which I think is a fair rate for a senior accountant in this city. Thank you for the thoughtful post. =)

Zenithian Legend posted...
Do you really want to risk a further prolonged unemployment over $2.5K?

Nope, but despite my fears, I generally believe that they'll counter a negotiation request with a denial or counter-offer, and not a flat-out rescinding. If they deny, I'll take the job at 62.5k. If they rescind outright... that's a pretty severe escalation imo, and might hint at douchey management, as Martin pointed out. I have had two rounds of in-person interviews with six of their people along with a brief tour of their office, so they have invested some time and resources in me. It would surprise me if they changed tone that much and immediately walked.

Metal_DK posted...
I think asking for 65 to 67 wouldnt be crazy. Congrats thats a solid starting salary in most areas.

Thank you!

Ngamer64 posted...
Personally I'd play conservative in your position and take the current offer, assuming everything else about the situation was golden (health benefits, retirement, vacation time, not too much overtime, etc).

Ng you sound just like my dad.
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TopicFinally got a new job. Now... should I negotiate on pay?
CaptainOfCrush
07/02/18 7:49:52 PM
#1
I assume the general answer is "yes", but I'm mainly looking for advice on how to do this politely and effectively, especially from those of us who have done it before (I never have). I'll give you guys all the deetz:

- I've been out of work for six months since my last accounting firm closed down. I managed some freelance tax work to keep from dipping into my savings too much, but they know I haven't had fulltime employment in half a year.

- They're offering base pay of $62.5k along with a benefits package that seems quite strong (they'll come over the top on 401k matching and are claiming an annual bonus of 12.5% of base).

- I'm happy with the benefits but was hoping for base in the 65-70k range. My parents, who are extremely cautious about this stuff, are wary about negotiating. I told my sister and she immediately said to shoot for 70.

- Last we chatted, the recruiter told me she "thought" people in my position got 65k, but she "wasn't sure". This gives me the feeling they might be lowballing a bit and I may have room to play ball.

- I'm worried that my unemployed status means I won't be negotiating with any leverage, and they'll deny outright. My one ace in the hole is that I've earned a professional certification since last chatting with them, but I don't think that'll balance out six months of unemployment.

So yeah, that's all the probably-too-much information. Any advice from fellow Boars 8 wage slaves?
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TopicWork 9-5 five days a week, or 8-6 four days a week?
CaptainOfCrush
07/02/18 12:29:16 PM
#27
Many salaried white collar jobs mandate a 1-hour lunch break, which means the typical 8-hour work day actually runs 8-5, so a 10-hour day would run 7-6 or 8-7. I'd still much prefer that, though. An additional day of eliminating the commute and dress code would be welcomed. Having a traditional work day off would also be helpful when running errands and scheduling appointments, and squeezing a mini vacation out of a three day weekend is actually quite doable.
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TopicIYO, how masculine are you?
CaptainOfCrush
07/02/18 12:12:42 PM
#8
Prob quite true.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
07/02/18 11:51:52 AM
#488
Ugh, this Brazilian team is really hard to root against. Neymar's tomfoolery notwithstanding, they're hardworking, disciplined, and don't dick around. Lord help me do I actually like a Brazil team.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
07/02/18 10:22:27 AM
#476
Really liking Mexico's tempo here. They're taking it to Brazil.
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TopicNBA Draft Topic?
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 11:44:05 PM
#244
Decent seats for the Warriors/Lakers PRESEASON game in Vegas are $300 each.
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TopicIYO, how masculine are you?
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 10:05:57 PM
#1
In your opinion, how masculine are you? - Results (37 votes)
I'm less masculine than the average man.
56.76% (21 votes)
21
I'm about as masculine as the average man.
35.14% (13 votes)
13
I'm more masculine than the average man.
8.11% (3 votes)
3
I'm not going to define masculinity. We're all men here.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 4:54:33 PM
#436
Sorry Ctes, I was rooting for you guys =(
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 4:28:38 PM
#401
national fucking hero
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 12:45:16 PM
#338
Mexico England final plz
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 12:43:46 PM
#336
And there's the heartache of soccer.
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TopicI know how Creed 2 ends. *spoilers*
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 10:50:55 AM
#2
<3 Rocky 4 but that towel scene could have been done better. Drago ignored physical intervention by the ref and continued to batter Apollo. Rocky's towel wouldn't have done a damn thing.
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TopicMet Mario's voice actor today, Charles Martinet.
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 2:09:41 AM
#14
Whoa, awesome that he took the time to sign that poster in multiple places. Thoughtful guy.
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TopicMet Mario's voice actor today, Charles Martinet.
CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 1:02:06 AM
#4
Nice! He's one of those guys I'd like to meet for a minute just to say thanks.

Also, requesting SWAG PICS
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
06/30/18 5:48:09 PM
#289
My sister went to Porto last year and said it was one of the most beautiful cities she ever saw. I really have no reason to root against Portugal apart from being firmly on team Messi.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
06/30/18 3:24:09 PM
#241
Yeah these games have had some brilliant moments. Uruguay's goals have been simply beautiful.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 Discussion part 3
CaptainOfCrush
06/30/18 3:01:18 PM
#227
Wait Mbappe is NINETEEN?

God damn, the future is bright for France.
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