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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 4:05:36 PM
#252:


I don't think the France/Uruguay game will be that great - Deschamps is cautious and I think he'll want to make sure he doesn't get caught like Portugal did for the two goals, particularly the second, so he'll stay more defensive than today where he really wanted to exploit Argentina's defensive weakness. Uruguay will largely nullify France because their defence isn't idiotic and slow like Argentina's is
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 4:06:55 PM
#253:


Also, commiserations david

I hope you know my hate of Portugal is nothing personal
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 4:09:52 PM
#255:


I thought it was a great game, surprisingly actually. Uruguay really showed how strong their front 2 is

Obviously Portugal being a black hole of enjoyment didn't help but it provoked Uruguay to attack and probe them
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davidponte
06/30/18 4:13:05 PM
#256:


XIII_rocks posted...
Also, commiserations david

I hope you know my hate of Portugal is nothing personal


All good. I've spent enough time being a fan of teams everyone loves to hate to know not to take things personal, regardless of the reason for the hatred.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
06/30/18 4:19:24 PM
#257:


Time counting up is the worst thing about Soccer.
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 4:20:07 PM
#258:


Fuck me I just feel so satisfied right now

This is like Nadal going out to Rosol/Brown/Kyrgios at Wimbledon or something where you just don't have to worry about it anymore, the abject terror of such a fun thing being ruined is gone
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charmander6000
06/30/18 4:23:22 PM
#259:


Portugal's best chance was always going to be back in 2006 when they had their golden generation plus Ronaldo
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 4:24:59 PM
#260:


That was shitty Ronaldo though. He didn't get good until the season after
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 4:39:13 PM
#261:


Imagine being Ronaldo
Never once winning a chip. Ever. And he's done now. Forever remembered a loser
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 4:39:56 PM
#262:


charmander6000 posted...
Portugal's best chance was always going to be back in 2006 when they had their golden generation plus Ronaldo


What's done is done. Debating what's happened is great.

What's it's? That's absolutely stupid
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jcgamer107
06/30/18 4:42:29 PM
#263:


LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
Time counting up is the worst thing about Soccer.

I think it's an interesting distinguishing aspect of the game. I mean, you could probably put 46 minutes on the clock in the 1st half, and 50 in the 2nd and count down, but i like that the referee can use judgement to allow the game to go on as long as he/she feels necessary. Much more organic.
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jcgamer107
06/30/18 4:43:12 PM
#264:


FlyingForever posted...
Imagine being Ronaldo
Never once winning a chip. Ever. And he's done now. Forever remembered a loser

You really have no grip on soccer lol
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 4:52:50 PM
#265:


jcgamer107 posted...
FlyingForever posted...
Imagine being Ronaldo
Never once winning a chip. Ever. And he's done now. Forever remembered a loser

You really have no grip on soccer lol


Never won the biggest prize.
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ShatteredElysium
06/30/18 4:59:20 PM
#266:


FlyingForever posted...
jcgamer107 posted...
FlyingForever posted...
Imagine being Ronaldo
Never once winning a chip. Ever. And he's done now. Forever remembered a loser

You really have no grip on soccer lol


Never won the biggest prize.


You're seriously stretching. I can't think of a single modern era player who is defined by winning the world cup. You're basically looking at Pele and Maradona and the only reason they are is due to less exposure from playing in eras where it was less likely for people to see their domestic play and/or playing in lesser leagues. And the only reason it is career defining for Maradona is because he flat out cheated en route to winning.
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 4:59:58 PM
#267:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ehbfgISDEU" data-time="


I love finishes like this. There's something satisfying about them. That's why Cavani's goal was my favourite of all the goals scored today
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 5:08:22 PM
#268:


ShatteredElysium posted...
FlyingForever posted...
jcgamer107 posted...
FlyingForever posted...
Imagine being Ronaldo
Never once winning a chip. Ever. And he's done now. Forever remembered a loser

You really have no grip on soccer lol


Never won the biggest prize.


You're seriously stretching. I can't think of a single modern era player who is defined by winning the world cup. You're basically looking at Pele and Maradona and the only reason they are is due to less exposure from playing in eras where it was less likely for people to see their domestic play and/or playing in lesser leagues. And the only reason it is career defining for Maradona is because he flat out cheated en route to winning.


It's the same in every sport.

Superbowl
NBA chip
NHL chip

Win all the participation ribbons in the world but the chip is what counts
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ShatteredElysium
06/30/18 5:11:38 PM
#269:


FlyingForever posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
FlyingForever posted...
jcgamer107 posted...
FlyingForever posted...
Imagine being Ronaldo
Never once winning a chip. Ever. And he's done now. Forever remembered a loser

You really have no grip on soccer lol


Never won the biggest prize.


You're seriously stretching. I can't think of a single modern era player who is defined by winning the world cup. You're basically looking at Pele and Maradona and the only reason they are is due to less exposure from playing in eras where it was less likely for people to see their domestic play and/or playing in lesser leagues. And the only reason it is career defining for Maradona is because he flat out cheated en route to winning.


It's the same in every sport.

Superbowl
NBA chip
NHL chip

Win all the participation ribbons in the world but the chip is what counts


No it isn't. The 3 sports you listed are all annual domestic competitions where teams don't have any restrictions on a players nationality. Those are not remotely the same as a World Cup.
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 5:11:52 PM
#270:


Why are people responding
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ShatteredElysium
06/30/18 5:12:34 PM
#271:


I have to assume that its either a troll account or somebody that knows very little about football.
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davidponte
06/30/18 5:17:21 PM
#272:


It's crazy that people who only come into soccer for the World Cup don't understand that the sport continues to exist when the tournament isn't happening.

You can't compare a league championship to an international event.

I'd argue the level of consistency needed to win a league championship in soccer, or the Champion's League, is much higher than a championship in the NHL/NFL/NBA/MLB, where you need a solid core and have the ability to get hot at the right time.

Imagine knocking the best player in each of those sports because they failed to win at the Olympics. Those are things that you add to the resume, not base the resume off of.
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 5:17:23 PM
#273:


He's a troll

Went into the Ramadan topic and started trolling muslims with the most egregious and blatant trolling. That's basically all he's been doing. Nothing to see there really
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ShatteredElysium
06/30/18 5:19:00 PM
#274:


Also worth pointing out that all of Englands modern day antagonists have now been eliminated.

Argentina, Germany, Portugal are all out. Italy didn't qualify. Iceland are also out. I think Brazil are the only team left that has directly eliminated England in recent history?
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 5:22:35 PM
#275:


XIII_rocks posted...
He's a troll

Went into the Ramadan topic and started trolling muslims with the most egregious and blatant trolling. That's basically all he's been doing. Nothing to see there really


If you think so highly of Islam then become a follower?

Doesn't agree with Islam?! - trololololololol

Nice logic

davidponte posted...
It's crazy that people who only come into soccer for the World Cup don't understand that the sport continues to exist when the tournament isn't happening.

You can't compare a league championship to an international event.

I'd argue the level of consistency needed to win a league championship in soccer, or the Champion's League, is much higher than a championship in the NHL/NFL/NBA/MLB, where you need a solid core and have the ability to get hot at the right time.

Imagine knocking the best player in each of those sports because they failed to win at the Olympics. Those are things that you add to the resume, not base the resume off of.


Imagine the fact that sports exist and there is one crown to rule them all for said sport and you can. Never. Win. It.
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 5:22:40 PM
#276:


For the record the best two players of all time, easily - easily - are Messi and Ronaldo, and it really isn't even that close. World Cup achievements are overrated because it was the only time people ever used to see Pele, Maradona, Platini, Cruyff etc. Ronaldo and Messi have been absurdly good every week for a decade. I guess Pele being the jewel in the crown for Brazil and having 3 World Cups is pretty mad, but putting that above literal continuous destruction for, again, an entire decade is kind of unfair
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 5:27:09 PM
#277:


XIII_rocks posted...
For the record the best two players of all time, easily - easily - are Messi and Ronaldo, and it really isn't even that close. World Cup achievements are overrated because it was the only time people ever used to see Pele, Maradona, Platini, Cruyff etc. Ronaldo and Messi have been absurdly good every week for a decade. I guess Pele being the jewel in the crown for Brazil and having 3 World Cups is pretty mad, but putting that above literal continuous destruction for, again, an entire decade is kind of unfair


Best player ever. Ever. ever

Never wins biggest achievement ever.

LeBron not winning nba title
Gretzky not winning Stanly cup

Like you can defend it all day long but we all have to remember they never won the biggest chip and never will.
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ShatteredElysium
06/30/18 5:27:09 PM
#278:


FlyingForever posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
He's a troll

Went into the Ramadan topic and started trolling muslims with the most egregious and blatant trolling. That's basically all he's been doing. Nothing to see there really


If you think so highly of Islam then become a follower?

Doesn't agree with Islam?! - trololololololol

Nice logic

davidponte posted...
It's crazy that people who only come into soccer for the World Cup don't understand that the sport continues to exist when the tournament isn't happening.

You can't compare a league championship to an international event.

I'd argue the level of consistency needed to win a league championship in soccer, or the Champion's League, is much higher than a championship in the NHL/NFL/NBA/MLB, where you need a solid core and have the ability to get hot at the right time.

Imagine knocking the best player in each of those sports because they failed to win at the Olympics. Those are things that you add to the resume, not base the resume off of.


Imagine the fact that sports exist and there is one crown to rule them all for said sport and you can. Never. Win. It.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Club_World_Cup

Oh look at that. Ronaldo and Messi have both won it.
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Hardcore_Adult
06/30/18 5:28:00 PM
#279:


Portugal have been silenced. Literally.

My Neighbours (the ones that don't have restaurants) will probably take the flags down tomorrow.
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Inviso
06/30/18 5:28:18 PM
#280:


FlyingForever posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
For the record the best two players of all time, easily - easily - are Messi and Ronaldo, and it really isn't even that close. World Cup achievements are overrated because it was the only time people ever used to see Pele, Maradona, Platini, Cruyff etc. Ronaldo and Messi have been absurdly good every week for a decade. I guess Pele being the jewel in the crown for Brazil and having 3 World Cups is pretty mad, but putting that above literal continuous destruction for, again, an entire decade is kind of unfair


Best player ever. Ever. ever

Never wins biggest achievement ever.

LeBron not winning nba title
Gretzky not winning Stanly cup

Like you can defend it all day long but we all have to remember they never won the biggest chip and never will.


Who would you say is the greatest hockey player if not Wayne Gretzky?
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 5:28:24 PM
#281:


Imagine being so good you never won the chips like fuck me that must be heartbreaking

Feel bad for messy

Not Ronaldo the crook
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 5:28:36 PM
#282:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Also worth pointing out that all of Englands modern day antagonists have now been eliminated.

Argentina, Germany, Portugal are all out. Italy didn't qualify. Iceland are also out. I think Brazil are the only team left that has directly eliminated England in recent history?


Well, you could count Croatia who beat us and qualified over us in 2008 Euros Qualifying. Otherwise, yeah

In World Cups since we won, we've lost to Germany, Germany (qualified over us in a group of 3), Argentina, Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Portugal, Germany, Italy/Uruguay

Fucking Germany

In Euros we've only ever qualified for knockouts four times since it introduced a group stage - 96 (lost to Germany. Fucking Germany.), 2004 (lost to Portugal), 2012 (Italy) and 2016 (Iceland)
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 5:29:22 PM
#283:


Inviso posted...
FlyingForever posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
For the record the best two players of all time, easily - easily - are Messi and Ronaldo, and it really isn't even that close. World Cup achievements are overrated because it was the only time people ever used to see Pele, Maradona, Platini, Cruyff etc. Ronaldo and Messi have been absurdly good every week for a decade. I guess Pele being the jewel in the crown for Brazil and having 3 World Cups is pretty mad, but putting that above literal continuous destruction for, again, an entire decade is kind of unfair


Best player ever. Ever. ever

Never wins biggest achievement ever.

LeBron not winning nba title
Gretzky not winning Stanly cup

Like you can defend it all day long but we all have to remember they never won the biggest chip and never will.


Who would you say is the greatest hockey player if not Wayne Gretzky?


Bobby Orr easily

Fuck ovi
Actually no ovi isn't that bad
Fuck crosby

And I'm like 15 minutes from his birthplace
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Hardcore_Adult
06/30/18 5:33:11 PM
#284:


XIII_rocks posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
Also worth pointing out that all of Englands modern day antagonists have now been eliminated.

Argentina, Germany, Portugal are all out. Italy didn't qualify. Iceland are also out. I think Brazil are the only team left that has directly eliminated England in recent history?


Well, you could count Croatia who beat us and qualified over us in the 2008 Euros. Otherwise, yeah

In World Cups since we won, we've lost to Germany, Germany (qualified over us in a group of 3), Argentina, Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Portugal, Germany, Italy/Uruguay

Fucking Germany


Our loss to Portugal in '06 BURNED especially hard that day is it was my 22nd birthday and fucking soured me for the rest of the night.
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 5:33:54 PM
#285:


Fuck Portugal so fucking much
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davidponte
06/30/18 5:36:47 PM
#286:


I've been to Portugal and it was alright. Nothing special.

Only been to the islands though.
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charmander6000
06/30/18 5:39:07 PM
#287:


Literally thinks a domestic league and national competition are the same thing.

lol
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Hardcore_Adult
06/30/18 5:39:54 PM
#288:


Ronaldo is also a threepeat Premiere League winner.

God, when they eventually write his stone, will they have enough damn room?!
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CaptainOfCrush
06/30/18 5:48:09 PM
#289:


My sister went to Porto last year and said it was one of the most beautiful cities she ever saw. I really have no reason to root against Portugal apart from being firmly on team Messi.
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Hardcore_Adult
06/30/18 5:56:45 PM
#291:


^ Yes, a Nation that routinely DERIDES the sport as boring/girly/kiddy/etc but go all out when they get in the mix >_>
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XIII_rocks
06/30/18 6:07:23 PM
#292:


Just watching the highlights. Ronaldo really showed his colours with that late attack on the ref, huh
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Hardcore_Adult
06/30/18 6:09:56 PM
#293:


He's always done dodgy shit.

Intentional Handballs
Constantly falling over
Rooneygate '06 with that "Fuck you" smile after the sending off
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 6:25:40 PM
#294:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
He's always done dodgy shit.

Intentional Handballs
Constantly falling over
Rooneygate '06 with that "Fuck you" smile after the sending off


No no guys best guy ever in kick ball so good so xool
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LOLIAmAnAlt
06/30/18 7:25:53 PM
#295:


The NHL, MLB, NBA or any other sport's player comparison would be a Olympics or World Championship victory and not the thing that happens every year.
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ExThaNemesis
06/30/18 8:44:01 PM
#296:


This FlyingForever is such a good troll that literal XIC is defending Cristiano Ronaldo.

This is madness.
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ExThaNemesis
06/30/18 8:46:13 PM
#297:


also whoever started referring to titles as "chips" should be jettisoned into a volcano
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 8:46:33 PM
#298:


ExThaNemesis posted...
This FlyingForever is such a good troll that literal XIC is defending Cristiano Ronaldo.

This is madness.


How can you defend Alfredo?

Kicks ball
Takes shirt off and dances and flexes cause such cool guy
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ExThaNemesis
06/30/18 8:48:41 PM
#299:


Look man I hated Ronaldo long before you were even in high school by the looks of it.

He's the greatest of all time, or top two at the worst.
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FlyingForever
06/30/18 8:53:17 PM
#300:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Look man I hated Ronaldo long before you were even in high school by the looks of it.

He's the greatest of all time, or top two at the worst.


No offense either ExTha I've been here over a decade and you still won't address the account bet from like a decade ago you won't honor but half the kids here weren't around for that either
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ExThaNemesis
06/30/18 8:54:43 PM
#301:


I addressed them all back when they happened. I was so beloved by Board 8 at the time that the masses joined together and decided they didn't want me to close my account. This is canon.
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