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We just need Artemicion and Stiltzkin imhotbqh

7.5/10

I generally like Larry. I think the only appearances of his I don't enjoy are 3-2 and E1-5 (although Edgeworth's reaction when he learns his Steel Samurai autograph came from Larry almost makes his cameo worth it).

He's great in his other OT appearances though. He injects the right amount of chaos into his antics while still being generally likable. I feel like they stopped caring about making him likable after the OT, but I still thought he was good in E2-3 and fine in 6-6 (mostly for his animations when wearing his disguise, I love the bubbles popping out of his pipe during his thinking animation in particular).

Ice Cats got this

We know whose milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

Mobilezoid posted...

I googled it and a Reddit thread a year ago tallied Ifrit, Bahamut, and Shiva as appearimg thirteen times in the franchise. I demand Year of Ifrits

Boy do I have good news for you

We can have multiple Ifrits in this very contest

Good news, you can get FFXVI Bahamut into this contest

I didn't realize jumping was a sign of poor skill

I don't think it will actually improve his chances either way

LiquidOshawott posted...

Remove: Gav and Chadley

i guess we all just agreed chadley was the worst part of rebirth and will leave it at that

MAI was way worse than Chadley, but he did create it, so he can take the blame for that, too, I guess.

junk_funk posted...

How many of the noms make the contest again? 20?

25

Ward Zabac

Attorney

A list of names...of the Patri--of Redd White's victims

I wonder what happens to the Inside the NBA crew now that TNT won't have NBA rights anymore. I think Ernie Johnson said he's staying on with Turner regardless.

But now that it's back on NBC, we can bring back this jam:

https://youtu.be/0Pnl1ulaG5k?si=GEDweZ6S2ir6QIqF

Julia Child
Gordon Ramsay
Emeril Lagasse
Guy Fieri

9/10

She's great and has always been great. I could do without her busting out of spirit medium costumes, but personality wise, she's awesome. Never really minded her showing up to save the day either (although the 1-5 "cameo," if you can call it that, was pointless).

I dunno, I didn't mind him. Yeah, he's pretty bland in terms of personality, but I don't think he was outright bad.

Lopen posted...

Garik

For Genesis Rhapsodos please

Perhaps the worst trade in the history of this contest

And that's a statement

The miracle never happen

We still need Ward Zabac to finish off the FFVIII crew

Nominate bad song covers

Remove: Friday by Rebecca Black
Add: Barbie Girl by Aqua

The easiest loss to recover from is Game 1

Sounds obvious to say but yeah

User
Write a sketch in which Phoenix Wright and Maya Fey discuss what are the worst songs ever made

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[Scene: Phoenix Wright's office. Phoenix is sitting at his desk, sorting through case files. Maya Fey is lounging on the couch, flipping through her phone.]

Phoenix: (Not looking up from his files) Maya, can you hand me that folder over there?

Maya: (Distracted) Huh? Oh, sure, Nick. (She hands him the folder) So, what do you think is the worst song ever made?

Phoenix: (Chuckles) Thats a bit random, Maya. But if I had to pick, probably "Friday" by Rebecca Black. That song is... something else.

Maya: (Laughs) Oh, come on, Nick! It's so bad, it's kind of good! Its got that cringe charm. What about "Baby" by Justin Bieber?

Phoenix: (Smirks) Yeah, that ones definitely up there. But it's still catchy, I have to admit.

Maya: (Nods) True. What about "Achy Breaky Heart" by Billy Ray Cyrus? I can't even listen to it without cringing.

Phoenix: (Laughs) Oh, definitely. That one's a classic in the worst way. But, have you ever heard "Who Let the Dogs Out?" by Baha Men? That gets stuck in your head and drives you nuts!

Maya: (Groans) Oh no, now it's stuck in my head! Thanks a lot, Nick! (She playfully throws a pillow at him)

Phoenix: (Dodges) Hey, you asked! What about you, Maya? What's your pick for the worst song ever?

Maya: (Thinks for a moment) Hmm... I'd have to go with "Barbie Girl" by Aqua. Its just so... ugh. Makes my ears want to run away!

Phoenix: (Laughs) Yeah, that one is pretty awful. The lyrics are just... wow.

Maya: (Grinning) But it's fun to sing in karaoke, right? Especially when you're being silly.

Phoenix: (Shakes his head, smiling) You would know, Maya. You always drag me to those karaoke nights.

Maya: (Laughs) Guilty as charged! But admit it, you secretly enjoy it, Nick.

Phoenix: (Sighs) Alright, alright. Maybe a little. But no more "Barbie Girl," okay?

Maya: Deal. As long as you don't bring up "Who Let the Dogs Out" again.

Phoenix: (Grinning) Deal. So, what other terrible songs should we avoid?

Maya: Oh, Ive got a whole list. (She pulls out her phone) How about "Blue (Da Ba Dee)" by Eiffel 65?

Phoenix: (Nods) Oh yeah, that ones pretty bad. And "Macarena" by Los Del Rio?

Maya: (Giggling) Oh no, not the Macarena! My worst nightmare!

Phoenix: (Laughs) Alright, lets agree to avoid all these at karaoke. Deal?

Maya: (Smiling) Deal. But if I catch you humming any of them, you're in trouble, Nick!

Phoenix: (Chuckles) I'll try my best, Maya. I'll try my best.

[End Scene]

(Don't hate on Blue, Maya!)

catesdb posted...

guessing Selphie would be >>> if she had the whip

Acting like giant nunchaku aren't awesome

Little light of mine

MZero posted...

This series is probably done. Gonna be hard to come back from that one

did we learn nothing from Minnesota/Denver

Or from Pacers/Knicks, even

As mentioned before, "We Built This City" has been listed many times on worst songs lists.

I don't really get it either, but it certainly has the reputation of being a terrible song, so it fits the bill for this Rushmore.

KamikazePotato posted...

I'm listening to various suggestions I'm unfamiliar with and most of them sound pretty decent.

Yeah, I'm okay with several of the songs mentioned here. Some songs became hated through how overplayed they were, so if you're just listening to them for the first time now, it wouldn't have that effect on you, of course.

I have not kept up with current anime so I have no idea what's supposed to be good out there

In other news, I watched Terminator 2 for the first time in forever. Movie still holds up, but this might be the most '90s movie ever in some ways. I kinda dig it a little more for that.

Dante posted...

lefty wanted me to let you all know that I still have all my nominations available

I'm holding back a nomination to support this year's Fury Caraway

If you want to vote for a kids song, go for it.

I don't really think it's what this Rushmore is asking for though. Like yeah "Friday" is technically not our demographic but you'll hear it on the radio. You don't hear Baby Shark on the radio.

Hmmm...I just remembered Barbie Girl. Trying to think if I should replace a song on my list with it.

Ifrit posted...

We still have to hear them though.

I'm a parent of a 2 year old and a 6 month old. I hear them plenty. Kids songs are meant to be kinda dumb, so it's almost against the spirit of the rule. I feel like these are meant to be mainstream release songs, not silly kids songs.

But I mean dumb kids songs could also be its own Rushmore, so I'll nominate that.

I won't stand for this Cotton Eye Joe slander

10/10

Come on, he's Phoenix. Despite the series' best efforts to ruin him, he's still the best.

There are more than ten moogles in Rebirth

Yeah I'm not voting for kids songs because those aren't made for us

"Who Let the Dogs Out" by Baha Men
"Ice Ice Baby" by Vanilla Ice
"What Does the Fox Say?" by Ylvis

Nominate bad Christmas songs

That deserves its own Rushmore

does The Bum Song by Tom Green count as a song that was meant to be bad on purpose

"Friday" by Rebecca Black

This should win in a landslide

I'll wait for other takes before voting on the other three

Just move everyone around and you got it

Ultimecia

Torgal

Double: Cidolfus Telamon

Clive Rosfield

More later

User
Write a sketch in which Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth debate whether roguelikes are actually like Rogue.

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Title: The Roguelike Debate

Characters:

Phoenix Wright: Defense Attorney
Miles Edgeworth: Prosecutor
Judge: Presiding over the debate
Setting:
A courtroom, with Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth standing at their respective desks. The Judge sits at the bench.

Judge: Court is now in session for the case of "Are Roguelikes Actually Like Rogue?" Mr. Wright, your opening statement.

Phoenix Wright: (Confidently) Thank you, Your Honor. Today, we seek to establish that modern roguelikesgames characterized by procedural generation, permadeath, and turn-based gameplayindeed uphold the spirit and core mechanics of the original Rogue. These elements are what define the genre and link all roguelikes back to their progenitor.

Judge: Very well. Mr. Edgeworth, your rebuttal?

Miles Edgeworth: (Smugly) Your Honor, while Mr. Wright makes an eloquent argument, I contend that many so-called "roguelikes" deviate significantly from the original Rogue. The term has been diluted over time, and many modern games lack the fundamental elements that made Rogue unique.

Judge: Proceed with your arguments, gentlemen.

Phoenix Wright: Let's start with procedural generation. In Rogue, every dungeon layout was unique, providing a fresh experience with each playthrough. Modern roguelikes, like Spelunky and Hades, continue this tradition. Each run is different, offering new challenges and discoveries.

Miles Edgeworth: (Adjusts cravat) But Mr. Wright, Rogue was also defined by its ASCII graphics and turn-based combat. Can we really say that a game like Hades, with its real-time combat and rich visuals, adheres to these core aspects? It's a departure from what made Rogue... well, Rogue.

Phoenix Wright: While Hades may not be turn-based, it embraces the permadeath and procedural elements that define the roguelike genre. It's about the underlying mechanics, not just the superficial details. Besides, genres evolve. Shouldn't we allow some flexibility as long as the core essence remains?

Miles Edgeworth: (Leans forward) Flexibility, yes, but not to the point where the term becomes meaningless. Games like Dark Souls are sometimes called roguelike due to their difficulty and death mechanics, yet they lack procedural generation and permadeath. This illustrates how the term has been stretched too far.

Judge: Interesting points. Mr. Wright, your counter?

Phoenix Wright: The evolution of genres is natural. Look at how platformers have diversified since Super Mario Bros.. Roguelikes should be allowed to innovate while staying true to their roots. Games like Enter the Gungeon and Slay the Spire prove that even with new elements, the spirit of Rogue can persist.

Miles Edgeworth: (Smirks) Ah, but Enter the Gungeon incorporates twin-stick shooter mechanics, and Slay the Spire is a card game. Are we not seeing a departure from Rogue's dungeon-crawling and combat systems?

Judge: Both sides make compelling arguments. It seems this debate hinges on what aspects we consider essential to being "like Rogue". Mr. Wright, a closing statement?

Phoenix Wright: (Firmly) Your Honor, the roguelike genre has evolved, but at its core, it retains the essence of Rogue. Procedural generation, permadeath, and an emphasis on skillful play are what matter. The genres ability to innovate and expand is a testament to the enduring legacy of Rogue.

Judge: And you, Mr. Edgeworth?

Miles Edgeworth: (Calmly) Your Honor, while innovation is important, we must be careful not to dilute the genres definition. Games that stray too far from Rogues original formula should be seen as influenced by roguelikes, rather than true roguelikes themselves.

Judge: Thank you. This court will take a short recess to deliberate on the matter. (Bangs gavel) Court is adjourned!

Narrator: And so, the debate continues. While the judge deliberates, the conversation about what defines a roguelike remains as dynamic and evolving as the genre itself.

Crossfiyah posted...

I don't like to cause problems.

So you're telling me you don't like to be caught in the crossfire

VFrench1933 posted...

It's a sign that I dunno who the hell "Leon" is, but nah not a sign of anything else.

Wow and after I tried to get you into the Discord and everything

What an ingrate

Comparing the plight of the Echidnas to the plight of the Jewish people was a choice all right

I did enjoy Knuckles actually getting to punch people in that episode though