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Leonhart4 posted...

Nominate bad song covers

Seconding.

So, this is different from the intention of the topic, but I see the trend of the posts here and think this is probably more interesting anyway.

That struggle of balancing the art and the artist is fair as a consumer, I get it. I'm never going back to watch an old Chris Benoit match despite him winning at WrestleMania once being my favorite wrestling moment. I've given up on Kanye West's old music despite seeing him live and thinking his first decade of music was a legendary run (used to have his new music on a one-month delay but don't know what his latest stuff even is anymore). I haven't bothered with Dave Chappelle's latest special from earlier this year despite it being well over my one-month time-out I keep in mind for him too -- dude used to be on my bucket list of people to see live but his last two specials minimum before The Dreamer have him being a lot less thoughtful both in general and for communities I care about.

All of these performers have very different problems -- nothing equal here, right, Chappelle didn't murder his family like Benoit for example, just recognizing decisions I have made in the past about people I was once a huge fan of and some of my own behavioral changes as they drifted down paths I didn't respect.

It's a weird mix of colliding philosophies at this point then: is it "there are pros and cons to everyone," or is it "the world is big enough not to support people with different values?" Both are true and I believe in both, but also like how are you going to live your life and when do you care about the exceptions you make? I feel that battle as a consumer and also as an artist sometimes.

To bring it back on-topic: I think some of this has been ignorance on my part of how problematic Blow has been for some people, I'll own that part from before I purchased the game and I could stand to better learn his other problems. The other side of the coin here is I don't know how many other people are doing what Blow is doing -- it's harder when they feel less replaceable. There are PLENTY of other game developers, sure, but in my mind he's 2/2 for masterpieces -- not just for fun in games but for uniquely adding to the industry in ways I feel like I have grown from his games...and now he's teaching about how he made Braid in a way that up to this point has not added anything off-topic from Braid or what have you, and it's encouraging others to make these kinds of games besides him in the future.

It's weird, is all. I wanna be careful about both sides'ing this...just recognizing a new dilemma in art VS artist since it comes up sometimes.

Say what you wish about the lyrics or the beat, but The Thong Song was a movement and a gift.

3/10

HOLD lT!

10/10

HaRRicH posted...

The two that have been named so far:
What Does the Fox Say?
Friday

The two than have not been named yet:
Hoobastank - The Reason
Khia - My Neck, My Back

REMOVE: Friday
ADD: Voodoo Mambo

Milkshake > WAP > My Neck, My Back

bryans7 posted...

Because I Got High

Heard this song live when Afro Man was in a club twenty years ago. Has anybody else heard any of these nominated songs live?

Besides Baby Shark?

Some of the new puzzles are cool, and they spark up new curiosities to me like the original Braid did.

At least one of these was just half-baked though. I need to double-check this later, but upon reflection from quickly beating this I believe Double Barrel can be done two different ways and they're both simple ways. I also don't think you can exit the level with the puzzle piece unless you just exit the world.

Maybe I'm missing some depth there. I have some notes about a few others, but this one's stood out as the weakest so far. I wish there was commentary on these new puzzles to hear more about what they were and weren't thinking while these puzzles were fresher to them.

The two that have been named so far:
What Does the Fox Say?
Friday

The two than have not been named yet:
Hoobastank - The Reason
Khia - My Neck, My Back

Anyway, I liked Red Lobster, but there was a lobster shell company-joke earlier in the topic that has helped ease the pain.

VFrench1933 posted...

I assure you, you would have to go against the TOS to offend me

I assure you, you would have to jump on this trampoline to convince me you're flying.

Thought you said you grew up on the internet.

"Are we in the black or in the red?"

"We're in the sea."

"Like our seafood?"

"...like bankruptcy."

The Binding of Isaac

Simmering on the rest. Diablo and Hades are both great picks, but the genre feels very indie-specific to me (Spelunky, Dead Cells, 20XX, Enter the Gungeon, Crypt of the Necromancer.....) so I need to process some more thoughts on that...and then also, clearly Rogue is the influence but I never played it or maybe even saw it before, so...gotta think some more.

But BoI is for sure getting my vote.

I didn't know we could request stickies.

I request this topic to be stickied.

I agree Spec Ops: The Line did not hold up as well when I replayed it a year or so ago. It's moments are still excellent, but the gameplay that was once brushed off as intentionally basic to fit the genre now just feels too weak.

Alternatively, The Stanley Parable still holds up for me. Ultra Deluxe helps for variation, but beyond that it's just nice to revisit every now and then. Still the top of its genre of walking simulators.

Appreciate the posts. I've noticed a few people either post pictures of themselves doing it or -- for two who passed away in recent times -- had other people post pictures of them flipping the bird. One of them I did not expect it from.

It's fine, it doesn't offend me, and I have one somewhere too. Just had me wondering.

Mario has at least two other 2D Mario games that does everything I want out of SMB1 much better than SMB1, and the game was such a hit that now we have four decades of platformers to compare against it. Then again, I didn't love SMB1 back in the day either.

It makes sense to start the kids there. Seriously it has a lot of quality design to respect about it, but also I don't know what it's like for people who played games for years but not ever playing SMB1 to then go play SMB1. I don't know what reactions in that context would be like.

Super Mario 64 was my favorite game of all time for many years. It kinda is by default nowadays, dunno that I have a confident answer that rises above my nostalgia.

The Switch port from Super Mario 3D All-Stars disappointed me. The camera that I defended many times before just got on my nerves too much with that release. I heard some commentary about how the Switch's controller is not well-suited for SM64's camera but I dunno.

Still a fantastic game and still got 120 stars, but now I might take Banjo-Kazooie over it as a platformer or some other more modern releases nowadays over it overall.

That disappointment in mind, it's not enough to fit this list. I'd rather see SMS or SMB1 here out of the mainline Mario games.

The writing was the best thing about the Battletoads reboot.

The game needed more good things.

AbsolutelyNoOne got the actual opposite of today's Rushmore, but I was trying to think in this path earlier and thought this might be close and still be cool.

Nominate: sleeper hits

HaRRicH posted...

I suspect this remaster is the story of a perfectionist simmering on really little details for fifteen years and finally having new money and technology to better pursue them.

So, now that I've 100%'d the base game and gotten some hours into the commentary, there was a commentary quote that I'll paraphrase here:

~"This Anniversary Edition is about getting the last 10% done."

To me, this checks out. So many little details mattered much more to them than I previously did, and they mostly nailed those little differences but they are little. Cannons that fire out clouds now sound more like thunder, rabbits have better animation, they remixed a song that was previously just reusing an earlier world's song, a wall was a little clunky with reused assets until now, camera zoom that allows certain stages to be framed better for modern TVs...all those small things.

HaRRicH posted...

I do also have the theory that this remaster is also a story of a game designer wanting to teach more people how to make games like this -- or even if not like this, how to be more creatively open.

Als gonna bring this back: if you look in the credits, you'll see this game is available for free when used for educational purposes. I understood Minecraft does this. Is this common for other games? Regardless, this remaster is clearly instructional about its successes, struggles, and philosophies.

So, I'm not done yet, but I'm ready to jump to conclusions: this is absolutely the same game as before except better graphics and lots of well-done commentary.with some new puzzles interspersed along the way. The new puzzles so far are nice, but also they don't seem to be the point as much as it is about learning from the commentary...and the graphics are nicer, but not like an exceptional amount nicer unless you just love parallax.

The commentary is the reason to purchase this. It's a classic game that now comes with a teacher. Blow's trying to change the landscape and I fully expect The Witness to do a similar remaster within the decade in hopes of people making better puzzle games.

HaRRicH posted...

Metroid
Sonic 1
Crash Bandicoot
Super Mario Sunshine

I'll probably change these but I'm starting here.

REMOVE: CB, SMS
ADD: Mario Party 1, Mega Man 3

SMS was criticized a lot at launch but I got 120 shines back then and now barely want to replay it. Might replace it with Brawl or Goldeneye but I wanna see where else the discussion goes.

I'm not sure I knew about Bioshock Infinite getting turned on. What was that about?

wallmasterz posted...

Im glad my shit posting didnt lead to a team L

Only got 1/6 of your names and it cost a potential bingo, but it also got a bingo in a game won by one bingo...so is it shit posting or clutch?

The world may never know.

Metroid
Sonic 1
Crash Bandicoot
Super Mario Sunshine

I'll probably change these but I'm starting here.

YOUR CARD FOR WOMEN'S NAMES:
Madison Rebecca Melissa Zoey Friday
Jocelyn Ashley Priya Mackenzie Amanda
Lisa Chloe Emma Samantha Gertrude
Belinda Bonnie Charline Taylor Bella
Nicole Corrine Natalie Ava Riya

VS ME

Amber Leigh Holly Wiatta Caitlin
Danielle Evelyn Angelica Emily Sherry
Amelia Renee Friend Laura Amy
Zoe Deanna Maria Lenae Helena
Leslie Mallory Ashley Raine Natasha

Bingos: 0-0, tie
Names: 11-16, me

Ya'll were only close to a bingo once and needed Riya to land it, For me, I'm really surprised there wasn't an Amy -- that alone would have landed me two bingos and therefore the card and game. Amber's almost as surprising -- woulda been one bingo for me. Angelica...eh, I'll accept there wasn't one, though there was an Angel named and I wanted to count that. Biggest surprise: no Melissas.

YOUR CARD FOR MEN'S NAMES:
Jack Finn Ronald Wolfgang Cole
Nate Tyler Amir Jayden Reese
James Robert Matthew Dustin Ludwig
Dick Ralph Muhammad Max Ibrahim
David Alexander Hunter Carson Lee

VS ME

Ryan Phillip Miguel Aaron Eric
Alex Joseph Trey Nathan Mario
Peyton Dustin Jason Chris Nicholas
Terry Travis Blake Lucas Brandon
Richard James Joshua Timothy Thomas

Bingos: 3-2, ya'll
Names: 19-18, me

We both got the first column and the \-diagonal. Ya'll just got the bottom row too, which I woulda got too if I have a Timothy -- damn, really? There was a Travis announced which could have given me a bingo, but it was used as a last name so I held back. I was also just a Dustin, Miguel, or Mario away from more bingos. ya'll had several one-aways too though: Wolfgang, Amir, and Ralph (who would have given you two bingos). Dustin is the only name guessed by both sides but was not named. Biggest surprise: Muhammad was in a feminine name for a feminine person so I didn't count it for the men's card -- maybe next time I should just let names count anywhere, but that might game it out for versatile names too much like Stewart. Probably fine really.

YOUR CARD FOR LAST NAMES:
Powell Kelley Deluna Winters Blackthorne
Williams Brookes Patel Kim Clarke
Jameson Franklin Campbell Ramirez Blake
Poots Wiener Smith Robinson Park
Jones Hernandez Collins Lee Gomez.

VS ME

Adams Smith Merriman Strong Johnson
Spencer Thompson Cohen Guiterrez Cooper
Corts Jackson Friend Gibson Barlow
Cage Mitchem Spears Hines Bond
Langford Toledo Hill Lennon Wilson

Bingos: 0-0, tie
Names: 13-9, ya'll

Campbell was the only centerpiece to not land, which would have given ya'll a bingo if that had landed. I thought picking Campbell over Williams was a tough choice on your part...but hey, it worked out anyway with you still getting more names. You needed a Poots! Poots would have given you a bingo! I was only close to a bingo once, and Toledo was more of a longshot than some others that also weren't named. We had a Blake for a first name but not a last name. Biggest surprise was me remembering too late that I only know the last name Cage from movies and video games.

Leonhart4 posted...

https://youtu.be/09wBn4ux3N0?si=uE9GWNVU-zlbs6aN

R.I.P. Robin Williams

Still miss this guy

This is my third vote now.

It's not exactly the debating that's my favorite, but the learning and the values being discovered during them...it's just hard to have those be clear without somebody making the case against the grain at some point.

Fine, it's the debates.

Still ready to debate Braid was screwed in the art-game topic. In fact, this might be too meta, but.....

NOMINATE:
Rushmores that got it right
Rushmores that got it wrong

My first thought was Link to the Past/Link Between Worlds, but that's just twenty-two years.

Nominate: rap beefs

I thought that was just my phone with the freezing.

Fuck Fandom.

LiquidOshawott posted...

is it a high school or a college one

know its too late but I think my guesses would be different depending

College.

MEN:
I got two bingos, 19/25 total
You got three bingos, 18/25 total

WOMEN:
I got no bingos, (three lines were 4/5), 16/25 total
You got no bingos (one line was 4/5), 11/25 total

SURNAMES:
I got no bingos (two lines were 4/5), 9/25 total
You got no bingos (two lines were 4/5), 13/25 total

Close one here, but ya'll won more cards by the bingo count and name-count. I concede, gg...but next time!!!

Damn azuarc, just nominated out of order there.

FINALLY A MARlA

Also finally got one of my center-pieces and landed a bingo: Ryan, Joseph, Jason, Lucas, Thomas

New announcer, and I land my first bingo: Ryan, Alex, Peyton, Terry, Richard

We're tied. About 75% through.

EDIT: aaaaaand ya'll literally get a bingo as I said that. Jack, Tyler, Matthew, Max, Lee!

Judges: does Phillips (as a middle name) count for Phillip in men's first names?

EDIT: nevermind, real Phillip came.

...lol and he just got subbed out. Never seen that before. Now woman has come in.

We are now at the part of the evening where the announcer has messed up a few names in a row and is now in his head about future pronunciations.

Halfway through and he has now slowed down.

Ya'll are now one away from another bingo, and all you need is Poots.

I'll cheer for you if you land that.

I agree, that Ashley Madison joke was great timing.

Ya'll got the first bingo! Big props to the ones who got Jack, Nate, James, Dick, and David.

Here's what's one away from bingo, about 40% through with names:
Ya'll need: Riya
I need: Mario, Peyton-male, Amy, Angelica

I am so tired of all these Maries when I just need one Maria.

Campbell was just announced...as a first name. Doesn't count, sorry.

I am allowing middle names to count for first names though.

No Wolfgang yet, but you landed Cole!

Peyton's been named twice...both as women. I can't count my Peyton-pick for my men-card. =( There was also a Muhammad with a woman's first name so I guess we're even.

Ya'll have more picked so far but I'm closer to the first bingo...

We all missed Abigail, Elizabeth Grace, Sarah, and Brook. There is a ton of them early so far.

No bingos yet.

Two for now:

SSB's live-action happy-together commercial most people are nominating

PSP's nut-commercial (you said console commercials count so I'm assuming handheld commercials do too):
https://youtu.be/s8cG3AZjaD8?si=A2F6zuUlsXyhOLCx