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Lokarin posted...

well, I'll give an extreme counter-example

If they repeal handicapped laws and a business no longer needs to provide any wheelchair access and they switch to stairs... a handicapped employee would be out their previous years of EI

Being handicapped isn't a choice, though.

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I also don't know what I'm saying.

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BEERandWEED posted...

Because it's completely unnecessary,

How so?

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Revelation34 posted...

Yeah it can only be blamed on the prop manager as the CNN link you ignored showed.

If we assume that:

• The CNN link tells the entire story (a very risky assumption for any news report
• There was a second armourer that also verified the gun was cold before passing it on to Baldwin
• No corners were cut in examining the prop manager's qualifications before hiring her

And probably other assumptions, though I can't think of any off-hand. Leaving out either of those latter two points could amount to negligence on the part of one or more executives for the film, which could include Baldwin. It may also end up not including him, if those decisions were made entirely by other executives or some level of middle manager. I did not in any way ignore your link, I just recognized that it's nothing close to a conclusive exoneration. I encourage you to do the same. The armourer named in it is likely to end up being the one most immediately responsible for this, but the investigation will have to pan out in order to determine the full extent of everyone's culpability.

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That sounds like it would be a lot of money for a questionable band-aid solution that would be better spent just building and providing the homeless with housing of their own.

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I'd morph her ball, if you know what I'm saying.

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BEERandWEED posted...

And the covid vaccine shouldn't be a condition for employment. Full stop.

Why not?

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BEERandWEED posted...

They didn't quit voluntarily.

They were fired unjustly and immorally.

If you voluntarily refuse to fulfill a condition of your employment and are fired as a result, you're leaving that job voluntarily.

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Revelation34 posted...

The rest of your post is an oxymoron.

Something can both be an accident and be blamed on somebody. If you have a responsibility to prevent certain mistakes from happening, allowing them to happen is negligent.

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argonautweakend posted...

Ah, good old class action lawsuit. If Kellogs pays up, everybody who was wronged will get $5.68 deposited in their checking account. Awesome!

If that. Given how many different people have likely bought strawberry poptarts at some point, I'd be very surprised if dividing up $5 million results in more than a dollar for any of them, even before taking into account the lawyers' cut.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Yes, and I think it's about time that it stop.

It needs to have certain limits placed on it, definitely, but it's unrealistic to expect food to always look like the pictures. Food just isn't that consistent, plus photographing food requires a whole bunch of tricks to get an appetizing picture (like using white glue instead of milk for cereal because milk would curdle under camera lights). Heck, even just photographing it in better lighting than what you're seeing it under when you eat it can create an apparent difference. You're never going to get a perfect representation of the product in promotional images.

Now, is there room to improve? Probably. Just don't expect it to get all that much better even if a large push for that does happen.

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Muscles posted...

I'm not sure how you can look at a poptart and think it has any actual food in it, and I love poptarts (at least some flavors)

helIy posted...

...there's real fruit in poptarts?

These. I'm legitimately surprised strawberries even make it to 2%. If you're eating poptarts in an effort to access the health benefits of strawberries (which are pretty much just vitamin C and fibre, so nothing tremendously unique), I think you might be doing it wrong.

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Dark_SilverX posted...

Only ones who need the vaccine are alcoholics, drug abusers, obese people and others who damage their body since their immune systems can't fight anything off.

Why do people still believe this nonsense? It's been almost two years.

BEERandWEED posted...

So they want to create another group of poor, jobless people because they comply?

EI has never covered people that quit their jobs voluntarily. Why should this be an exception?

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JixHedgehog posted...

If everyone doesn't drop the mask requirements when it's time for the booster shot, I ain't getting it

Why are you treating public health like a negotiation?

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I'll keep going until the recommendation goes away, presuming I have good reason to believe that's based on sensible public health policy and not a political move to appease voters. I'll probably maintain it for a couple months past that, just to err on the side of caution (unless global case numbers are actually so close to zero as to make that clearly unnecessary), but I'll likely stop after that. There's some merit to the idea of keeping it around during flu season, but most of that protection depends on other people wearing them (cloth masks aren't airtight, so most of their protective value comes from reducing the speed of air people exhale, rather than from keeping contaminated air out), so I don't really get much of a say in that unless I'm the sick one.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

any store that requires a mask doesn't get my business.

Why not?

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Revelation34 posted...

Neither of those sites welcome conservatives.

adjl posted...

Twitter's and Facebook's algorithms already tend to promote right-wing perspectives preferentially.

They don't explicitly welcome them as a matter of advertising, no, but the whole "oh no social media hates conservatives!" thing doesn't actually reflect reality.

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Blighboy posted...

I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying I understand.

Pretty much. He very obviously shouldn't have done that, but customer service is a special kind of hell that can awaken untold evils within men.

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zebatov posted...

I said she had to quarantine for the same amount of time as the unvaccinated do, which means shes just as contagious.

That's pretty flimsy logic. All that means is that the government recognizes that vaccinated people still pose a significant transmission risk and hasn't bothered coming up with new regulations to fine-tune their isolation time. As mentioned above, that's to be expected, given that conclusive quantitative data is hard to come by (and is constantly evolving as the variant profile changes) and there's little harm in erring on the side of caution. It does not in any way support the conclusion that vaccinated people are equally contagious.

zebatov posted...

And studies have shown that people who have already had Covid have a much stronger immunity because theyve had the actual virus in their system versus something the vaccine which does not contain the virus.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination (links to several actual studies)
https://healthydebate.ca/2021/10/topic/how-good-natural-immunity-covid/ (links to several conflicting studies)
https://globalnews.ca/news/8229808/covid-vaccine-natural-immunity-fact-check/ (links to several more studies)

While the available data is constantly evolving, especially as variants shake things up, the bottom line seems to be that vaccination gives better, more consistent immunity on average. However, this comparison is completely pointless: Vaccination and natural immunity are in no way mutually exclusive, nor is deliberately getting infected for the sake of developing immunity without a vaccine ever going to be a good idea. The available data unanimously indicates that getting vaccinated after being infected improves your immunity, regardless of how strong your natural immune response ended up being.

Quite simply, you will never have to choose between natural immunity and vaccine immunity, nor is there ever going to be a reason to choose the former over the latter (even for people that are allergic to the vaccine, deliberately becoming infected for immunity's sake is likely to do more harm than good, so they should pursue other methods for avoiding infection).

zebatov posted...

The government is using coercion to encourage people to get vaccinated. Things like not allowing unvaccinated to go anywhere public with a liquor license, or even leave the country as of October 30th.

That's not coercion. That's offering special privileges to the vaccinated, based on the additional safety they bring to the world around them. That they're privileges you took for granted in a pre-pandemic world doesn't change that.

zebatov posted...

If this was a real pandemic, you wouldn't have to coerce people to get it.

Man, you're really on a roll with jumping to illogical conclusions here. That people are refusing the vaccine does not in any way suggest that there's no real pandemic, let alone conclusively indicate it. By and large, people are scientifically illiterate and bad at risk analysis, especially when it comes to dealing with something that's as scary and upsetting as the greatest public health crisis in a century (ignorance and denial are pretty comforting in situations like this). That's why they've convinced themselves that the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus, helped along by widespread fearmongering about the vaccines and the extent to which "I don't want to do anything to stop the pandemic" has become a matter of political identity. That opinion indicates absolutely nothing about the virus' actual danger.

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Monopoman posted...

I also don't think they necessarily promote that s***, the problem is the algorithms feed you more of it so if you see something that makes fun of Hillary and calls her a crook if you like that post, it's more likely to show you more stuff like that. So the right wing get more right wing and a similar case of the left, assuming they get their info from sites like Facebook.

It goes beyond that. It's not just a matter of showing more of the things you actively Like, it's a matter of disproportinately showing people (all people) right-wing stuff because the arguments and controversies that ensue drive more traffic. Facebook records much more than just what you click "Like" on. They record how long you spend with a given post on the screen, whether or not you read comments on it, what sort of comment threads you expand. When they do show left-wing stuff, the dissenting comments are displayed as "more relevant" because that's what people that agree with the initial content are going to spend more time reading and responding to.

Everything about how Facebook and Twitter are designed focuses on one goal: To increase your activity on the site, which in turn increases the amount of time you spend looking at ads, the chance of engaging additional people, and creates additional opportunities for them to gather and sell data about you. The accidental end result of the algorithms that pursue that goal is that all users are being disproportionately shown right-leaning content, regardless of how they personally lean.

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My executioner.

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The US has already banned murdering 17 kids, but that doesn't seem to have stopped him. Even if we accept his premise of blaming weed, why does he think banning weed would be any more effective?

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Just in case, make sure you know how to give yourself abdominal thrusts. Enough people know that basic first aid that you probably won't need to, but it's good to be prepared.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

most people in this country would fail history tests

Most history tests are focused mostly on dates and names and not on concepts and consequences, which makes them inherently much more difficult than they ought to be while simultaneously being largely useless. Rote memorization of historical minutia is of little value, while also being quite challenging because insignificant details are hard to remember without attaching them to meaningful context. That's not the "learn from your history" people talk about; learning from your history means trying to understand why things happened and what impact those things had in the long run.

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I'm a fan of Factorio's artillery, though that would probably qualify as a strategy game. Satisfying sounds, actual infrastructure needs to operate it, CANNONS ON TRAINS, really well-established as an anti-structure weaponry (fire rate and projectile speed are too slow to hit anything that's moving, crippling minimum range means it can't fight back against anything attacking it)... It's just fun to use.

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There is, but regular Twitter's and Facebook's algorithms already tend to promote right-wing perspectives preferentially. Right-wing extremists will sometimes get booted off, sure, and then wave their giant victim complex around as they run sobbing to Parler or whatever, but by and large, the whole "social media discriminates against right-wing views!" thing is the exact opposite of the truth. The only right-wing views they discriminate against are thinly-veiled calls to murder all the gays

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Zeus posted...

any conservative-welcoming social media platform will be attacked by the government and far-left extremist groups.

Which is why Facebook and Twitter are having such a hard time?

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DocDelicious posted...

Animal Crossing is such a charming series that gamifiying it like this completely ruins the enjoyment for me.

It's hard not to notice. The first game let you have 15 villagers at a time and only had 6 personality types to pull from. You're inevitably going to get a few repeats. Similarly, the most recent one has 10 islander slots and 8 personalities. Each personality's dialogue still has plenty of variation, so you aren't seeing the same lines all the time from every character with the same personality, but if you're playing frequently at all, you'll see some repetition (to say nothing of how behaviourally similar characters with the same personality are, which is about what you'd expect).

Certainly, I'm not one for the "I want to carefully manipulate my island to have one of each personality" sort of approach, since that sort of gamification makes it feel like a much less organic experience than Animal Crossing ought to be (in my opinion), but it's hard to ignore that there's a finite number of personality archetypes that dictate villagers' dialogue.

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Revelation34 posted...

I don't think anybody should take somebody serious who thinks she's underaged and working at Hooters.

adjl posted...

Actually considering it leads to the conclusion that a minor wouldn't be working at Hooters and it's probably fine, but that first impression was not at all "that's an adult," even beyond the consideration that 18-year-olds are actually pretty young-looking.

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Remember kids: Only sources that I already agree with are reliable.

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Solid Sonic posted...

To be fair I think Australia's government doesn't really respect the intelligence of its citizens (they're kind of similar to California in that regard)

If the citizens aren't intelligent enough to do what needs to be done without legal enforcement, should their intelligence be respected?

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ReturnOfFa posted...

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Her chance of getting COVID was still greatly reduced. Now she has COVID. Of course she has to quarantine for two weeks. Where did I state that the length of time someone is contagious would differ? You seem to be conflating two things, one thing that I never brought up or mentioned.

Most evidence does seem to be suggesting that vaccinated people aren't contagious for as long, actually. That hasn't been conclusively quantified, though, so it hasn't been reflected in public health policies yet. Realistically, it probably never will be, since positive people losing an extra week (or whatever) is a minor enough issue that erring on the side of caution is likely going to be the best course of action.

Notschmendrake posted...

adjl literally hitting sunny levels of doubling down on his wrongness

Are you suggesting that equivocating organ transplants with cannibalism might have been slightly facetious?

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Muscles posted...

15%, unless its shit service it should be 15% and go up for servers that go above and beyond

Pretty much. Sub-15 is a punishment, more than 15 is a reward.

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ReturnOfFa posted...

Does the body 'consume' the kidney? I mean, sure, if it's rejected. I wouldn't call it consumption if it's accepted.

In a sense. All of our organs have finite lifespans that we're gradually consuming by using them. In practice, you probably aren't going to fully consume the donor organ, given normal use, but it can be said that you're using it up.

I wouldn't actually say that rejection is a matter of consuming it, though. That's just destroying it. "Consume" implies that you gain something by using it up.

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Is that one of the Bowser fight levels in the middle?

Looks like Lethal Lava Land.

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OM NOM NOM

Om nom nom

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Revelation34 posted...

That is definitely not literally since that's not how transplants are done.

-I am dying
-I (using a surgeon as a proxy) remove part of your liver
-I (using a surgeon as a proxy) insert part of your liver into myself
-I live

Om nom nom

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captpackrat posted...

Most of the deaths from orphaned sources were people who picked up the source and then did something stupid like put it in their pocket, take it home, try to open the container, or sleep with it (three lumberjacks found a pair of strontium-90 RTG cores in the middle of the road. They had melted all the snow around them for 1 meter, so they kept them and used them as personal heaters. One of them required extensive skin grafts because of the radiation burns and eventually died from infection.)

Yeah, anything you find randomly lying around likely isn't going to be so intensely radioactive as to put you in immediate danger just for being next to it (at least, not the kind of danger where saving a few seconds by running instead of walking will make a difference). You should keep your distance and ensure somebody with the proper equipment and training disposes of it, but as long as you aren't keeping it close to you for several hours, you're probably okay.

Remember that the intensity of energy coming from a point source (which we can reasonably simplify these items to) varies with the cube of the distance. If you're 10 metres away from a radiation source, you're getting 1000 times less radiation than you would be if you were only 1 metre away. Exposure time, on the other hand, increases linearly (being exposed for 10 minutes gives you 10 times as much exposure as being exposed for 1 minute, ignoring half-life for simplicity's sake), so if you're ever in a position where you need to choose between getting rid of it more quickly or taking a longer time to dispose of it from further away, the latter is going to be the better option. That's a pretty contrived hypothetical situation (even in the context of "you find a random radioactive object on the ground"), but it's an interesting bit of physics to consider.

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It's alright, but generally not worth the cost or effort to make. I'll sometimes have some if somebody's offering, but I don't typically bother on my own.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

"Identifies as N.B." and then continue to use girl anyway in the rest of the text?

Those are the initials used to anonymously identify her for media purposes, not an indication that she's non-binary.

Zeus posted...

(It's partly telling that the rep coached their words in "not explicitly threatening," which suggests an implicit threat.

That just suggests it wasn't explicitly threatening. If an implicit threat were the basis of the arrest (which is a really flimsy basis for arresting anyone, let alone a 10-year-old), they would have simply said that the drawing was felt to be threatening. If there were anything to say that would make this seem more justifiable, it would be very easy to simply say that. That they haven't suggests that there isn't, leading the the conclusion that it's more reasonable to assume that either police racism or some manner of nepotism (I'm guessing the parents that called the police have friends in the department) is at play.

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Decoy77 posted...

They know exactly what they are getting into when applying for a job there.

But that's the thing: What they were getting into when applying for the job isn't what they're facing now. Nobody should be assuming that somebody who's okay with the old uniform would be okay with a skimpier one, any more than they should be assuming that they'd be okay to work topless.

Decoy77 posted...

If they don't like it, they can leave, they aren't being held by gunpoint to work there.

So you'd be okay with showing up at work tomorrow and being told that you're no longer allowed to wear anything but a Speedo around the office? After all, you aren't being held at gunpoint to work there. Sure, that'd mean you'd be forced to choose between compromising your livelihood and whoring yourself out to a greater extent than you're comfortable doing, but that's fine because you aren't being held at gunpoint, right?

OhhhJa posted...

First off, you can barely see her face in that pic. But looking closely at her mouth, I'm getting the exact opposite. Looks like a lady probably in her 30s judging the crease by her mouth.

Again, I didn't look too closely, that was just my first impression.

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party_animal07 posted...

That's what I thought as well.

Same.

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Decoy77 posted...

Damn you'd think if it was effective then that place with the highest vaxed rate would have the lowest cases...

All things being equal, sure. Given enough existing cases and public health restrictions being lifted before those cases go away, though, it's certainly possible to have outbreaks - even significant ones - in well-vaccinated areas. If you look at Ireland's overall case count figures, their double-vax rate really started to pick up around the beginning of July, while their fourth wave really started to pick up around mid-July and has levelled out at a moderate case load that really hasn't receded. Without looking into it in great detail, my interpretation is that that suggests that they used vaccination rates as a metric for lifting restrictions, rather than case load. The vaccination rate has kept the case load from spiking (the highest 7-day average in these fourth/fifth waves is less than 30% of the peak seen in their third wave), and hospitalizations/deaths are way down, but vaccines alone are not going to get rid of an existing case load, so it's been able to persist. I would also guess that it's been fuelled by tourists looking to take advantage of the weaker restrictions, but I don't know what their policies are in that regard and I can't say for sure.

Ireland doesn't indicate that the vaccine doesn't work (if anything, you can look at how low their cases are compared to their third wave despite having fewer other restrictions in place, and that tells you they're working), but it is a cautionary tale against relying exclusively on it. It remains important to maintain and enforce restrictions - especially for unvaccinated people - until case numbers come under control, rather than assuming the vaccine will handle the issue.

old_school227 posted...

Show me a religion that says you can't get a vaccine but will also let you get an organ transplant

Seriously. This is literally a matter of consuming a piece of another human to sustain yourself. Any religion that objects to injections is going to object to cannibalism as well.

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wpot posted...

Is running a good way to avoid radiation? Just wondering.

It's generally not going to hurt. The further away you get from a source of radiation, the less irradiated you'll be and the better your prognosis. In the vast majority of cases, it's not going to make a significant difference, since there's a pretty narrow window of radiation intensity where you'll suffer significant negative effects if you don't run but will escape them if you do, but it's worth trying, at least.

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ReturnOfFa posted...

tbh I think you're the one infantilizing her somewhat. I'm not into 'picking the hottest' at all, so I think criticizing that is fine, but I don't get your point of view on this at all.

*Shrug* All I know is that my first thought on seeing her face was that I was looking at a young teenager. Actually considering it leads to the conclusion that a minor wouldn't be working at Hooters and it's probably fine, but that first impression was not at all "that's an adult," even beyond the consideration that 18-year-olds are actually pretty young-looking.

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Zeus posted...

No, no, lightning every time. Plus lightning can cause fires.

You're just still salty about that whole Prometheus thing.

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MartianManchild posted...

It just seemed like he was downplaying things

How? Without context (as you quoted it), that statistic has been presented neutrally, without any efforts to imply anything. With context (as you did not quote it), he's comparing that statistic to the likelihood of developing these complications and arriving at the conclusion that Covid is several orders of magnitude more dangerous than the vaccines, which is the exact opposite of downplaying Covid.

MartianManchild posted...

I would actually like to hear your take on this study @adjl since I respect your opinion on these matters even though we often disagree.

My take is that this study isn't particularly useful for laypersons. It was published for the sake of people that are looking to better understand the breakdown of myocarditis vs. myopericarditis, how those outcomes compare to what would be expected from a control population, and what sort of treatment burden and overall harm can be expected from it.

To be useful for laypersons, this study would need to provide the number of vaccines administered as a denominator so one can analyze the risk of getting the shot. Without a denominator, you can't compute that probability, which makes the information largely meaningless.

The primary value of VAERS is as a starting point for vaccine safety researchers. Because of how informal and non-comprehensive a record it is, it indicates very little about quantitative risks. Instead, it says "this many people believe an association may exist between this vaccine and this outcome," which directs researchers to examine that potential association in greater detail so they can conclusively determine whether or not a link exists and how significant the risk is. For laypersons, VAERS serves as a database of things to look out for if they're skimming vaccine safety publications for the sake of becoming better informed, but the raw numbers should be taken with several grains of salt and they should be careful not to let their sense of risk be distorted by seeing those numbers in a vacuum.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

do not question the vaccine!!!!

Quite the contrary: Question the vaccine all you want. Just don't ignore answers to those questions for failing to conform to your existing views. If you do that, you aren't asking questions, you're just stating your opinion with a question mark on the end.

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Full Throttle posted...

Despite this she is still refusing it and would rather have her trust in GOD than the DEVIL'S MEDICINE but is hoping another hospital that isn't implementing this draconian policy take her.

So vaccines are "the devil's medicine," but not literally carving out somebody else's organ and sticking it inside her?

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ReturnOfFa posted...

Have either of you met an adult women before? They can vary in appearance, strangely enough.

It's mostly the face. She looks very, very young. I'd be surprised if she's actually not an adult, so in truth it's probably okay, but she looks young enough that singling her out as the most attractive one is definitely giving off some "have a seat over there" vibes.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

And then after all that, I had to lift and shelve 1.25 tons of grain, 55 kg at a time, most of it over my head.

That's poor workplace design that's just asking for somebody to develop an RSI. You should look into options for redesigning it to involve less overhead lifting.

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MartianManchild posted...

Surprised you didnt get modded for this post for trying to downplay this disease.

In what universe is "1.6% chance of dying" "downplaying" a disease? That's frigging huge. You've probably never done anything with a 1.6% chance of dying in your life.

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