Lurker > CyricZ

One client owns the building, the other is a tenant.

Owner client gives me a task for the building. I find an issue with the tenant client as part of the task. I report it to the building owner client as I'm required to do.

Tenant client gets mad at me for not telling him first so he can keep it under wraps.

Telling tenant first would be obfuscating from the owner client.

loooool there are few things in my life I want more than to ditch this tenant client somehow.

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TommyG663513 posted...

Still, it'd be premature to conclude anything, because the sample size is still too small.

That hasn't stopped some people.

TommyG663513 posted...

What I have a problem with is this black and white thinking that you are a bigot or you are not.

Have you been called a bigot? My condolences, but I'm not going to apologize on behalf of someone else for your hurt feelings.

Those mentioned in Post #1 each have their own varying histories of bigotry. For someone to come into this topic and agree with them is to risk being labeled as they are.

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TommyG663513 posted...

Anecdotes are really as good as it gets. There aren't a ton of trans people in Athletics.

Not my problem.

I just think it is ultra silly to say " there is no way MtFs have physical advantages over cis women that could create a competitive imbalance."

And I've never said that, despite everyone's best attempts to try to drag it out of me for some reason. All I hear is how "obvious" it is from opponents, but never any actual proof.

To paraphrase what pinky has been saying, the real question is "is it fair?" Do you feel qualified to determine that?

SquirtleSkwad posted...

Sorry. I meant "considered".

So I ask you again, what are these opinions that require consideration?

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

Cis women have struggled for a long time too and deserve to have their opinions heard.

Are their opinions not being heard? Have they been silenced or censored?

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TommyG663513 posted...

So what could that imply if trans women have many documented cases of them winning in female divisions, but like no or very few cases of trans men winning in trans divisions?

Addressing this requires you to first prove that this in fact happens.

And to help you along, you'll first have to do without waffle words like "many" and "very few". We're going to need numbers.

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Oh this simply isn't done! You'll be hearing from my solicitor!

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It's funny I bought it when it came out but didn't start it until last night. :)

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I'm not arguing that trans women haven't won things. I've never done that.

So this isn't really any kind of "gotcha".

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TommyG663513 posted...

Could you possibly imagine why MtFs seem to be successful in female divisions while FtMs don't seem to experience the same level of success in male divisions?

I can imagine about a lot of things, but it would prove nothing.

Quite frankly I think people using their imaginations a little too wildly is at the source of a lot of the problems here.

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WashYourHands posted...

Why I dont hear about F to M trying to compete in the mens leagues?

Because complaints only happen when trans people win. If they would just not win, then everything would be fine.

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Anyway, I'm now just posting in this topic to get it to 500.

For it is literally the only way the discussion of trans people in sports ends on CE. At 500.

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Rapid99 posted...

This means AOC is Jessie Faden.

Ummm.

I mean I get it in a reference sense.

But...

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

I'm not doing this roundabout way of discussion where you just ask leading questions.

You opened with a roundabout message.

And then you responded with a roundabout message.

What do you want from us.

EDIT: Also I wasn't referring to gunplagirl. FlameTurtle and CalypsoDoom have posted in this topic.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Ben Garrison agrees

Nice.

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

Their opinions on gendered public spaces that concern them.

Do you have an example of these opinions?

We have a cis woman in this topic in support of the EO.

You can ask her her opinion.

EDIT: Sorry, two!

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

So cis women have no say anymore?

What's the "say"?

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TommyG663513 posted...

Ok bad faith poster. Now you're just mimicking me to try and ridicule me. Yup you sure are proving me wrong lol.

Careful everyone. We have to be nice to him or he'll turn to fascism.

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TommyG663513 posted...

So is it me or you who keeps yelling at people and labeling their arguments as bigoted?

Hey now there's no need for such incivility.

TommyG663513 posted...

Of course they can give birth to a child. If you deny otherwise then you are just being bigoted. Trans women are women after all. Why would you think that a woman wouldn't be able to give birth?

If only you would argue more civilly.

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TommyG663513 posted...

You are an incredibly dramatic person.

Hey let's be civil.

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TommyG663513 posted...

You have zero place in this discussion.

TommyG663513 posted...

You clearly have zero clue what you are talking about

I don't know who said it, but someone in this topic said the following:

Yeah you need to try and understand the concept of civility

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Flauros posted...

which one was that

The transphobic one (which is why I bring it up here).

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And OnlyTheTruth is suspended for the topic he made last night.

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CyricZ

I started up Death Stranding last night! I'm gonna reconnect America!

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Quick reminder folks. If you're looking to prove that trans women will always beat cis women, don't use statistics of cis men to try to back that up. Trans women and cis men are not the same thing, and I wish I didn't need to keep reminding people of this.

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Eliza3 posted...

I'm not watching Joe Rogan, but for anyone who found something she said objectionable, can you elaborate? I'm curious now.

Usually doesn't happen. Every time I ask for clarity on Joe Rogan content, I'm told to watch it.

I watch clips and they say "Nah man you have to listen to the whole podcast. It's out of context."

I listen to the whole podcast and they say "Nah man you have to listen to a year's worth of podcasts to REALLY get what JRE is about".

And then I realize this is how cults get you.

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WashYourHands posted...

Lol, yes post 254 was just for giggles. But we are talking about the video in post 260, keep up!

Honestly how am I supposed to figure which is the trolling you and which is the serious you. You can't have it both ways, chief.

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WashYourHands posted...

Id just thought youd like to listen to someone that has experience competing in this topics situation, but I guess not

Dude you think South Park is a viable source. Don't nobody need to entertain you.

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Also I've had UR on block for years so I don't give a shit about what his ass is saying, but if he's anything now like he was back then, his entire schtick is being a shit disturber so I have no sympathy for him getting called names.

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JuanCarlos1 posted...

No. Its called living in reality and acknowledging living in a country full of actual ignorant bigots and religious zealots.

So fine, let's allow it. But what will be the response *IF* trans women suddenly dominate all sports they participate in?

I'd say if white supremacists and religious zealots are willing to go to fascism over sports then that's their problem, not ours.

We didn't resolve school segregation by telling black children we couldn't desegregate for their own safety. We did it anyway and gave them police protection, and fuck the bigots.

To put it simply, don't negotiate with terrorists.

And don't make policy assuming a fantasy worst-case scenario will happen. We've had trans women in sports for decades and they still haven't overthrown cis women like everyone seems afraid will happen.

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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

It's sad watching Unfair and all else getting called a bigot for simply calling out biological differences. Even calling for banning them? Wtf.

Stuff like this is what will give rise to another right wing president who'll trample all over trans rights.

This is literal extortion. "Be nice to us or we'll elect another fascist. Be a shame if something happened to your democracy."

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I know!

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FlameTurtle posted...

You want me to call out of work every day?

lol maybe not every day, but be aware of those particular days when it's beyond a certain level.

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BunkerBoy posted...

He's too scared to say his ridiculous fake theories here though...

To be a Trump supporter is to live in constant fear of unreasonable things.

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legendarylemur posted...

Korone got some tunes for free from freaking Yuzo Koshiro himself

Yeah when I first heard that I'm like "Dammit I know I've heard something like this before" and then people are telling me like "Yeah it's just a slightly changed Fillmore from ActRaiser done by the same artist" I'm like nuh uh.

But apparently... yuh huh.

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CyricZ

Like I can't see every post in this topic for incredibly mysterious reasons but I got this funny feeling that that picture from that South Park episode has already been posted.

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Like free tip if you're gonna come up with fantasy doom scenarios involving trans people.

Don't assume that everyone's brains will fall out of their head and allow a bad faith actor to dominate women's sports just because you think everyone (besides yourself of course) is as smart as the cast of South Park.

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Remember folks, when you say "QAnon Congresswoman", you always have to specify which one.

Because that's apparently how it is on this bitch of an Earth.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

A high school boy could identify as a girl and join the girls golf team. Then get to play from the shortest tees and given their strength advantage probably outdrive all of the opponents by at least 100 yds. (Likely more) They could then go on to obliterate all school records for girls golf and become the most winning athlete in school history.

In a non-existent fantasy world, yes.

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Galliumtheone posted...

biology be damned

Being trans is biological.

Galliumtheone posted...

Now it's a problem because transgenders want to compete with the opposite sex in sports?

No, they want to compete with their own gender.

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SSJKirby posted...

15 bucks, but I dont pay for hot water

Yes I should also stress that for mine, water's included.

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Massachusetts never higher than $50 a month.

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onedarksoul posted...

I'm sure you do. If it were up to you, you'd all have people who lean right removed.

Don't see a down side.

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Smackems posted...

55 what

Miles per hour

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CyricZ

The stealth is serviceable. It's always tough in these kind of games to make it 100% clear whether or not enemies can see you. They have the "Light Gem" system like they always did where you know just how visible you are, and you'll get icons notifying you if the enemy's about to notice you, and how alert they are (whether they're curious, suspicious, or actively trying to bonk you).

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CyricZ

As a big fan of the Thief series, of course I bought the game when it came out, on a PC that could barely run it. Also it was a buggy mess.

A mere seven years (and two PCs) later and I decided to give it another completely honest try.

Still pretty buggy, but I stuck it out to the end. Used a guide to find most of the loot (guide on GameFAQs, not that great, but interpretable).

It's definitely 4th place out of 4 in the series. Deadly Shadows had problems, but narratively it was in cohesion with the first two games. Thi4f tried to be its own thing a little too much and while I can tell there's a lot of love put into parts of the game, it still doesn't quite come together.

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FlameTurtle posted...

That was a genuine compliment

Well thank you then :)

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FlameTurtle posted...

You're firing on all cylinders today

Hey I'm not makin' the topics.

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ManicPlumber77 posted...

biowoman

Honestly not a fan of this term either. Implies being trans isn't biological >_>

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onedarksoul posted...

He did a great job, and did most of what I wanted him to. Not the best communicator, but thats ok. Perhaps the next person to take up the populist mantle will be.

Killed the people you wanted?

Anyway, we all know we're gonna be dealing with this as a postmortem: dudes we know went to bat for right-wing shit but want to play it off as a big goof and a troll.

Like fuck that I know I've got you tagged for a reason.

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