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The only match I've currently flipped on is Skyrim > Witcher.

I'll probably switch to Witcher > Dark Souls > Skyrim once I've put a little more thought into it. I think I'll stick with Smash, obviously sticking with Xenoblade, and at this point, people may as well stick with what they originally have in the ME2/RE2 showdown, because there's absolutely nothing conclusive there.

If I really wanted to gamble, I may pull the trigger with P5 > Witcher in an all or nothing Hail Mary. Apart from Zelda, Persona is the one big game that, IMO, enters Round 4 with the least amount of Round 3 damage.

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@Ngamer64 I'm finally carrying my own weight!

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Time to see if I was lucky enough to crack the Top 50 before the Round 4 minefield.

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KamikazePotato posted...

In a previous tournament, there was a mid-Grand Finals disconnect and the winner was decided by community vote.

LOL oh man

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

The way its set up now, its going to be really hard to get players to care about a character when the first thing she does is murder someone we like.

eww people like JOEL???

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KamikazePotato posted...

The most interesting part about the quarantined Smash community starting up online tournaments to fill the void is watching pro players slowly turn just as cancerous as the community at large

This sounds... pretty entertaining to watch and laugh about.

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I actually don't mind the spoilers I've read.

Biggest spoiler of all though: the gameplay will be as bland and unfun as in the first game, and the world about as uninteresting.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

I'll be shocked if Smash beats Odyssey. The trends leading into that thing are equal to Witcher and Skyrim. One just looks so much better than the other.

Funny thing, I'm actually playing through Odyssey right now, and my firsthand experience is somehow turning me back into favoring Smash (whereas a few days ago, I gave the slight edge to Mario).

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Is PS4 Skyrim considered "modded"? I rarely do PC gaming, so I'm usually limited to the best console port.

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Smash looked like crap against Spider-Man, but I'm guessing that result has been glossed over because it has little impact as to how we can predict a 100% SFF showdown.

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Safer_777 posted...

By the way is Skyrim still popular? Sure we know this game and everyone knows it. But do people still buy it and play it? Because I am sure Witcher 3 is still beeing played especially after Netflix boost.

It's been the top FAQ on this site for eight straight years, which I don't understand at all. SOMEONE out there is playing it.

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MechanicalWall posted...

I don't remember ppl saying Skyrim was gonna go 60-40 with MK8

The Oracle average is just under 61%. The Oracles predicted this match almost perfectly.

We'll see this being reflected if anyone bothers to tally the board's second chance brackets. In our original brackets, 47% of the Gurus took Skyrim to the finals (compared to 30% for Witcher). It's going to be waaaay less than that in our revised brackets, because most of us realize Skyrim isn't as strong as we originally predicted and are revising our expectations.

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MechanicalWall posted...

In fact I'm sure that if Witcher didn't also get a Mario game this round we'd still have to pretend that MK8 was 17 whole points better than it was in 2015

Who's doing this chief, some people have been crapping on Skyrim since R1, and almost everyone else jumped on the train after Witcher's match against Mass Effect 3. It was the board favorite to reach the final when the contest started, and it's now an underdog to do that. Isn't that... a somewhat appropriate revision?

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Re: Skyrim - this is an underperformance relative to expectations a month ago, but is about what we figured given continually revised expectations.

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I also wasn't sure when we'd switch to one match per day, but since it ain't happening for a while, it does present an opportunity to discuss how some of these matches may be affected by their daily pairings.

ME2/RE2 - will be affected by Zelda/DQ. Not sure which game comes out ahead here (one can argue for ME2 being an RPG or for RE2 because it's a "classic" series like Zelda), but any sway will probably be negligible and difficult to notice.

Smash/Mario and P4G/XC - As a Nintendo game, Xenoblade probably benefits more for any rallying in the bigger match. Not sure whether Smash or Mario would benefit more from rallying in the RPG match. My intuition says Smash benefits more from the good ol hentai war drum because I have been transformed into a disgusting pervert.

I can't see much worth commenting on in the last four division finals, largely because three of them seem completely decided.

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My reaction's all smiles because internet meltdowns are a phenomenal outcome to games I don't care about.

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IMO, Dark Souls in the finals is at least as likely as P4G over Xenoblade at this point.

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MechanicalWall posted...

This is pretty damn sad for a game people thought was a surefire finalist

In our defense, I'm not sure how many people had that much confidence in Skyrim. It's the finalist favorite from the south end of the bracket, but Witcher 3 isn't far behind. Even for the people who took it to the finals, there was a ton of consideration, and many of us ultimately stuck with Skyrim not out of tremendous confidence, but because it was significantly stronger than Witcher 3 and Dark Souls back in 2015, and role reversals like that are always a tough gamble.

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Advokaiser posted...

Also, if Skyrim doesn't get at least 65 by the end of this match...

I still think that's a very lofty expectation. Skyrim's already lost whatever "favorite" status of reaching the final it had. If it can push this into the low 60s, it at least reclaims coin flip odds against Dark Souls, which is about the best it can do at this point.

Who on Board 8 still favors Skyrim to beat Witcher?

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Skyrim can't establish itself as the favorite against anything in this match IMO. The Mario Kart series is too weird. It'll need a very strong showing against Pokemon to raise its stock with me.

Also, the who else thinks the highly anticipated Witcher vs Skyrim could suddenly wind up as Persona vs Dark Souls? I never would have considered Witcher losing early after Round 2, but Round 3 has been humbling for most of the heavy hitters.

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fuss row duh

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Indirectly its probably a 57-43

I'd say it's guaranteed to be 57-43

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Skyrim hit 55% for a second before plummeting again. It's a dead fish. =/

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Play vidja gaems

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Also, I'd take Mario Kart 8 over MGS5 no question, so a doubling would at least reestablish it as the favorite against Dark Souls.

(but it's not getting a doubling lol)

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LeonhartFour posted...

Doubling bare minimum.

Seems a little lofty... but at the same time not?

Skyrim has been the least beastly of the three, so it needs a big performance to actually become the FAVORITE again, but at the same time... how much weaker is MK8 relative to SMG2?

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Very true, I've loved the British voice actors since the beginning. I can't imagine anything else (good lord, Dunban's Japanese voice is HORRIBLE).

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ShortReplies posted...

How come Xenoblade didnt win many awards when it came out in 2010? you dont hear much about this game, how come its doing well?

It released in 2010 in Japan, 2011 in Europe, and 2012 in America. The staggered release probably cost it some initial hype, along with the fact that it was never supposed to release in the US until fans ran a lengthy campaign begging Nintendo to bring it over. It's been growing via word of mouth since.

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At this point, the list of games I'd definitively take over Xenoblade isn't long.

BotW
Smash
Odyssey
Witcher 3
Persona 5
Dark Souls
Skyrim

There are others where I'd predict a fight, but bias would sway me. Crazy to think that a game barely brought to the US has a real shot at being top ten of the decade.


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The cherry on top would be Xenoblade resisting Smash/Odyssey SFF and bowing out respectfully.

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Wildspark posted...

How often does the site have contests like these? It's the first time I ever took part in one and its been fun so far. I want to do a lot better next time though

Once a year if we're lucky (closer to once every two years these days). We used to get two a year in the good ol' days.

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Dark Souls is poised to light a bonfire on everything and make its own finals run.

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Batman was brought down to 50% before stretching the lead again during the final 30 seconds. The next couple of updates are bigtime!

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Oh boy, that asshole Joel better get it together. He can die next round.

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God damn this is fun

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Thanks much. This one was a really fun session.

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I'm not at all willing to make any claims about how these Indies would fare against each other. Have we seen any Indie vs Indie matches in a contest?

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I finally started last night and used the Pro Controller, but based on tutorials and the control scheme, I feel like the disconnected Joy Cons are the way to go (even though they're tiny as hell in my hands).

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I've been on Team Liara since 2007. She's the only romance option available for all three games, and easily the most interesting one in the original.

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Shep's Angels (minus Liara)

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I guess this might be the round where all the non-BotW monsters show some vulnerability.

(I still think Dark Souls is going to massacre MGSSV)

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BotW: three playthroughs with all 120 Shrines, one psychotic playthrough with 900 Koroks. At least 300 hours in this.
DQ11: 0
ME2: multiple playthroughs, at least 100 hours, but years ago
RE2: multiple playthroughs, at least 50 hours
Smash Ultimate: played a ton during the launch month but never since
Mario Odyssey: 0, but hoping to start today!
Persona 4G: 0, doubt I'll ever play it
Xenoblade: two full playthroughs on Wii. 200 hours easy
Witcher 3: 0, but I'll get around to it one day
God of War: Full platinum playthrough and almost finished a second on NG+. At least 40 hours.
Persona 5: 0, but I'd play this before P4.
Portal 2/RDR 2: 0 for either, but Portal 2 has been on my backlog for years
Dark Souls: One complete playthrough, honestly wasn't a huge fan
The last of us: Also beat it twice, but the second time was just to run through for some trophies. Not a huge fan.
Skyrim: 0, unsure if it's still worth the time investment
Pokemon/Nier: 0 for either, but Nier is high up my backlog

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I'm guessing Okami HD is easily worth $10? Still never played it.

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Odyssey clearly flexed with the more impressive beatdowns. Ultimate's saving graces is that it made LBW look slightly worse than Spider-Man, and I don't think anyone here seriously risks Spidey > Zelda in their bracket, so it suggests Ultimate does have some strong SFF ability.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

These are the literal rules that we all signed up for.

You can still be unhappy about the result while acknowledging its legitimacy. Aren't you upset at sports all the time?

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UltimaterializerX posted...

he point is when it's Chrono Trigger it's awesome, but when it's Draven it's a problem. There is no difference to me.

Again, degree matters to a lot of people. The rallying is not nearly as egregious when it propels an entrant that was Top 10 in strength anyway. Draven wasn't even a Top 200 character on GameFAQs. He was getting blown out by nobodies before the rallies turned him into Top 1.

Example: if Skyrim catches some inexplicable rallies and wins the contest, will some people be salty? Sure, but there would be a lot more acceptance of it (and waaaay less salt) than we had with Draven and Undertale. Skyrim was already a beast around here and didn't need to grow 100 times in strength to win. Degree and nuance, once again.

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Sens-Hangar_18 posted...

Lolwut Why is Odyssey so much stronger than Galaxy on here? Galaxy seems way more respected everywhere else online from my experience

Is it? I've heard nothing but praise lavished on Odyssey whenever it's brought up. The issue is that BotW created a black hole of discussion for other games released around that period, so it simply ISN'T brought up as much as it otherwise would have been.

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KamikazePotato posted...

I explained it more in the show, but my take on Witcher 3 is that it has room to underperform against Nintendo and still cruise control to the finals.

I don't know if anything's cruising against Dark Souls, though. It should give anything non-Zelda a serious fight.

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LET'S A GO (home)!

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Hell, I thought 60/40 would be a soft performance from Witcher, and it'll have some work to do to reach that.

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