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CasualGuy posted...

Doesn't tuition pay for a bunch of on campus shit that won't be able to be used? Why would it stay the same?

Because good ol' capitalism.

Even your education won't remain greed-free.

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averagejoel posted...

what is "wrongthink" and where did you hear about it

Breitbart most likely

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Cinderforge posted...

Ah ok well I agree that testing for every job going is pointless and should be abolished. Certain jobs should have testing of course but if you're going to be in an office then I don't get it.

I would agree that testing is important for certain professions like doctors, pilots and truckers. But I think that testing should be broader. It's not just high pilots or truckers you have to worry about. You also have to worry about ones with sleep insomnia, mental illness, emotional trauma, etc.,

The hiring process should be more involved than simply checking off a list, but employers aren't willing or are unable to dedicate that amount of time and resources.

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Awesome posted...

And in the usa anybody can become a millionaire but that takes something called intelligence and hard work ethics which many people dont have

So I guess that explains why you're at where you're at.

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Cinderforge posted...

They do, I mentioned that.

I do want some clarification though, being a non American, when these tests are being applied. Do you mean like for nearly every job or just for ones that really require it e.g. truck drivers etc? Because if it's for everything then I agree that it is pointless.

But they don't....no you can't show up to work drunk obviously, but employers don't do anything to filter out alcoholics.

And yes here in the states, you get drug tested for everything. Even if you're applying to be a cashier at Target.

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richisdisturbed posted...

I wonder how many of this weed naysayers drink alcohol?

Imagine the uproar if companies started denying jobs to people who drink...

Yup.

Imagine if every employer made you do a lie detector test asking if you had been drunk at all within the past 30 days and made hiring decisions based on that.

People would find that absolutely ridiculous.

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Cinderforge posted...

Whether it's legal or not is irrelevant. No business wants employees high or drunk at work. Legalisation isn't the removal of responsibility.

So then why do these same employers not care about alcohol then?

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America has to earn our love.

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It's also really telling that some people are equating a recreational substance to publicized blatant racism.

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Grischnak posted...

Lol. Do you live in the fucking 50s or something? Post some wrongthink on Twitter or Facebook in 2020. See what happens at your job.

Smoking a joint in private =/= going on a racist rant on social media that makes your employer look bad

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Grischnak posted...

Lol @ calling it racist. My opinion is: I don't do drugs so I don't give a fuck. They obviously aren't the most effective way to find out if someone is doing drugs but, well, so? If you fail then you were still in fact doing drugs so...yeah. Don't do drugs? Or don't apply for jobs that care if you do drugs?

What else does your job or potential employer get to dictate that you can or cannot do in your own spare time?

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DaveRose316 posted...

Except for the fact you will lose out on a job regardless of race if you fail a drug test. Unless you're saying only black people do drugs. Which comes off as racist in itself.

I mean, the War on Drugs was a roundabout way of perpetuating systematic racism without being too overt about it, so he's not far off.

But the issue is the type of drug. No, black people aren't the only people that do drugs, but we tend to stay away from shit like meth, heroin and cocaine, which doesn't last long in the system.

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Balrog0 posted...

People arguing over whether they should be allowed are missing the point imo. If my employer wants me to go to a tarot reading as part of my hiring process to see if I'll be compatible with the office. okay, but it's still dumb and not effective.

Exactly my point.

If a private business decides to drug test, then nobody should really be able to tell them otherwise. But they're wasting their money on something that is largely ineffective within the hiring process. Even if somebody DOES quit long enough to pass a drug test, they'll just go right back to using anyway.

The point being that somebody who fails isn't necessarily an addict and somebody who passes isn't necessarily clean.

It is also worth noting that the ONLY reason drug tests are so commonplace is because of tradition, not because of any real practical benefit. It's just become accepted within the U.S. that drug tests are a natural part of the hiring process, and most companies simply don't question why they're needed.

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Lyrica posted...

I mean, I think employers have a right to not want to hire or retain anyone who partakes in drug use. While I do consider cocaine, PCP, etc, to be harder drugs, I'm not a fan of people who act like marijuana is a necessity.

But where it becomes a grey area is that employers are now impeding upon what you choose to do in your personal life.

What employers need to do instead is screen for the conditions that actually make an employee worse at their job, not just assuming somebody is a worse employee because there's traces of marijuana from weeks ago.

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nemu posted...

For the most part, I agree, but Ive never particularly understood how hard it is to just not do it if your job is that strict about it.

Some people will quit smoking for a month in preparation for a drug test and still fail.

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- They do a terrible job of screening out anything that isn't marijuana, which, of all the potential drugs that can be tested for, is the least likely to affect workplace performance long-term. Everything else only stays in your system for 3 days tops, meaning you can snort a whole line of cocaine on Saturday, and piss clean by the following Tuesday, if not Monday.

- Drug screens ONLY test for the presence of illegal drugs in the system and not for the actual effects. Things like impaired/altered senses, forgetfulness, and difficulty with problem-solving don't just exist with drug usage. They can also occur with prescription drugs, hangovers and plain sleep deprivation. You wouldn't want your truck driver to drive stoned, but you also wouldn't want him to drive running off of only 2 hours of sleep either.

- Drug screens provide absolutely no context on usage habits. Everybody consumes differently. Once a week, every night after work, before, during and after work, only on special occasions. The net cast by drug screenings is so massive that a lot of inaccurate conclusions can be (and often are) drawn about a particular candidate's hirability.

- Drug screenings discriminate against poor/middle-class drug users. While obviously anybody can consume any drug, cocaine is the drug of preference among the rich, while marijuana, the most common, easily accessible, easiest to produce and cheapest illegal drug tends to be the drug of choice among everyone else. Marijuana is up to 10 times more likely to cause a positive test result than cocaine is.


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I seriously want to ask people to name 3 things that the U.S. does better than mostly everywhere else. Something that doesn't involve the crazy amount of money we spend on our military so we can wave our dicks around globally.

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MarqueeSeries posted...

People saying that they deserved this need to have their heads rocked, that's fucking disgusting

Seriously. There's some fucking sociopaths on this message board.

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I feel like asking women this is not going to lead to accurate results.

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solosnake posted...

What justifies them selling it for 300x the cost to produce?

Good ol' fashioned American capitalism

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this country is a joke

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Alabama has to be the stupidest state in the country, right?

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Alright I see where this conversation is going. Imma head out.

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Atralis posted...

A drug test can tell you if someone uses drugs .

"Well Johnny it says here you had meth in your system".

yeah but I only do meth some of the time. I promise.

Drug tests won't detect most hard drugs because they don't stay in your system longer than a couple of days.

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Also, you're missing the big point here that even if you do stop smoking for the purposes of getting a new job, THC is still detectable in your system for a very long time. A Urine Test can detect usage up to 30 days ago and a hair test can detect up to 3 months. Some tests can detect it after a year.

You can't make a qualitative statement about how "weak-willed" a person is based on a drug test.

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Atralis posted...

Psychological tests only work on people too crazy or stupid to realize which responses sound crazy or criminal.

Drug screenings accomplish even less than that.

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Atralis posted...

I've worked with people that had legal and illegal drugs effect their work. I didnt enjoy working with the guy who had a legal addiction to opiates any more than the guy who needed to smoke pot before work to deal with the stress.

And I work with an entire store of people that smoke pot regularly and do great at their job. My employer also doesn't drug screen.

That's why psychological tests are more important than drug screenings.

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Atralis posted...

The issue is that if they truly need it what's going to prevent them from needing it before work or during rather than after?

That's no different from prescription drugs, many of which have similar effects to marijuana. This also has nothing to do with weak will.

You're not making an argument here.

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Atralis posted...

You all have to admit that if someone is too mentally weak to stop using for long enough to get a job they will probably be a bad worker.

This is not true.

Many people use marijuana for medical and psychological reasons.

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Steve Nick posted...

Harder drugs tend to ruin the life of most people. Very few people with long-term drug addictions can live a productive life where they're performing responsibly on their job.

But as previously mentioned, drug tests are awful at actually detecting those harder drugs and can't detect alcoholics at all.

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I think if companies wanted to actually accomplish anything with their drug tests, they would be better served doing some sort of psychological test instead. Because the behavior that's assumed to be caused by these drugs is the important part, not the drugs themselves, right?

They could involve psychologists in their hiring process who are trained to look for specific reoccurring behavioral patterns that would be detrimental to fulfilling job duties.

But of course, that would require more effort than simply filtering out anybody who's smoked a joint in the past week.

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BudDupree48 posted...

Its sad how much you let politics control your lives. You obsess over it. Sad

I mean...politics kind of DOES affect our lives, in case you haven't noticed.

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I remember 2k14 for PS3 being a notoriously shitty version of the game

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FunnyPies posted...

Agreed that marijuana is pretty harmless. But hard drugs? Screw that shit. I don't trust these people at all. Would you trust someone addicted to meth enough to give your social security number, your bank account information, etc. to them in a mortgage application? Hell no you wouldn't.

True, but those harder drugs stay in your system for far less time than marijuana. Somebody could snort a whole line of coke a few days before a drug test and piss clean, which is why the whole system is stupid.

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No. They don't serve any real purpose whatsoever because they provide no conclusive data outside of the fact that this person, at some point within <30 days, smoked marijuana.

And even then, the effects of marijuana that would make someone worse at their job can also be replicated with other harsher drugs that are less detectable than THC, alcohol and even just flat out insomnia/sleep-deprivation.

It's an unnecessary obstacle for job employment.

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Joeydollaz posted...

You're paying less actually

again 100 bucks NOW< gets both games.......... 49.99 for next gen

Versus just paying your $59.99 and having both the current-gen and next-gen versions?

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eston posted...

So this is basically for people who know for a fact that they will be repurchasing this game in less than a year

That just seems weird to me, I never plan ahead to be buying the same game twice, it's something I do rarely and begrudgingly

It's especially weird purchasing the same game twice knowing it's going to basically be obsolete by next year.

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ohiostate124 posted...

Tim Scott has been working on a police reform bill for years and the Democrats didnt even give it a chance. Why? Because they want to campaign on it. Lets not act like Democrats even want to do the right thing.

What does any of this have to do with the topic?

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Joeydollaz posted...

uh...they sold 100+ Bucks Editions of the regular game before

This Time Atleast YOU GET Next Gen version cheaper, it is basically payed off

You shouldn't have to pay extra for the next-gen version to begin with.

Nearly every other company is offering a free upgrade to the next-gen version for their current games....WITHOUT you having to buy a $100 edition of the game.

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Joeydollaz posted...

Kobe family and Mamba Academy will receive all the money Guaranteed

For some reason, I doubt it

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Even then, they still won't do the right thing.

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Also how fucking dare they use Kobe's name for this scheme

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2K is probably the laziest gaming franchise out there.

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It's obvious he cherry-picked France to make the U.S. look better by comparison, and he failed at even doing that because they are directly comparable when it comes to standards of living.

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Companies aren't even paying hazard pay anymore for those working in the pandemic.

My girlfriend has been working throughout the entire thing and they dropped hazard pay after like a few weeks.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Yeah like I said this is a really unhealthy way of reacting to being wrong.

No, what you're doing is an example of that.

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TC plays the game on Easy Mode and then criticizes the combat system

My sides

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ThunderTrain posted...

The lack of time off is also why coronavirus is gonna continue to stay bad. People are so used to going Its just a small cough, Ill work because they cant afford to take a few days off.

Yup.

The labor laws here in the U.S. is half the reason the pandemic has gotten so bad. You literally have to choose between having money for basic necessities or your life....unless you're wealthy.

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Viola Davis is definitely a bigger name than Meryl Streep currently

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Jabodie posted...

https://twitter.com/SMGxPrincessirl/status/1278432702295879680?s=19

That shit just ain't right

That's legit creepy

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