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tm315
07/05/20 7:57:56 AM
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Solution_45 posted...
Except it wasn't a terrorist attack
Justifying vehicular murder isn't much better. F***ing disgusting, this won't teach anyone either, only embolden them. I'm about to go stand on a highway
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DarkRoast
07/05/20 8:03:39 AM
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Regardless of whether or not this was intentional (I honestly don't know), as someone who spent a month on a trauma ICU rotation, I can say that people universally underestimate how long it takes to stop when going faster than 50 miles per hour. There's some pretty interesting studies about it.



The TLDR is don't ever try to cross a highway on foot.


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Jerry_Hellyeah
07/05/20 8:05:58 AM
#54:


tm315 posted...
Justifying vehicular murder isn't much better. F***ing disgusting, this won't teach anyone either, only embolden them. I'm about to go stand on a highway

Dont forget to wear black at night.

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l0bcity
07/05/20 8:12:11 AM
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And now ones dead, dont protest in the middle of a highway ffs


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Lorenzo_2003
07/05/20 8:14:13 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
That's not a new concept at all. Never heard of Candace Owens or Ben Shapiro?

Ben Shapiro is not a white supremacist. Hes very vocal about being a Jew and following the Jewish faith, he doesnt like Trump much at all, and calls the Alt-Right a bunch of idiots. He is very critical of the Left, but that is not the same thing as being a white supremacist. Likewise, if a person criticizes the current Senate, it would be silly for us to assume they are black supremacists.

Candice Owens, ehhh... Im not sure whats going on with her.

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tm315
07/05/20 8:16:39 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Dont forget to wear black at night.
What's your point? They were on a road that was blocked by police baricades. It doesn't matter what you're wearing if they're tryna hit you
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DarkRoast
07/05/20 8:17:07 AM
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Candace Owens is either literally insane or is grifting the far-right like a televangelist grifts religious folk.

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tm315
07/05/20 8:18:13 AM
#59:


l0bcity posted...
And now ones dead, dont protest in the middle of a highway ffs
Don't drive your car around police baricades to get onto a highway and then speed at a crowd of people ffs.

JFC, how can being in the highway be the focus here
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Jerry_Hellyeah
07/05/20 8:18:39 AM
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tm315 posted...
What's your point? They were on a road that was blocked by police baricades. It doesn't matter what you're wearing if they're tryna hit you

Yo can you just shut the fuck up and watch the goddamn video? Its what, 5 seconds long?

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tm315
07/05/20 8:19:58 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Yo can you just shut the fuck up and watch the goddamn video? Its what, 5 seconds long?
I did, I also read the article that said "drove around police barricades." Idk what you're getting at
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Jerry_Hellyeah
07/05/20 8:54:55 AM
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tm315 posted...
I did, I also read the article that said "drove around police baricades." Idk what you're getting at

And youve participated in society long enough to have seen people pop up on the curb to go around or passing on a double yellow. I know you have. So whats so inconcievable about some twenty something dumbass getting fed up with the interstate being closed for reasons he doesnt give a shit about and hopping on through another exit? Ive gone around police barricades on I-79 twice to park and get baked with some friends and watch the giant earth movers go to town. I easily coulda smacked someone wearing all black at night anywhere along that road. Im not a terrorist or a murderer.

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tm315
07/05/20 9:00:09 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
And youve participated in society long enough to have seen people pop up on the curb to go around or passing on a double yellow. I know you have. So whats so inconcievable about some twenty something dumbass getting fed up with the interstate being closed for reasons he doesnt give a shit about and hopping on through another exit? Ive gone around police barricades on I-79 twice to park and get baked with some friends and watch the giant earth movers go to town. I easily coulda smacked someone wearing all black at night anywhere along that road. Im not a terrorist or a murderer.
The guy was speeding toward a crowd of people. It looked like he was going 80. If he didn't wanna kill anyone, I don't think he'd be driving that fast. Sure, I could be wrong. But I got no problem labeling you a murderer if you drive around police barricades and then proceed to speed toward a crowd of people. He coulda slowed down when he got to the large group if he just wanted to get past
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Jerry_Hellyeah
07/05/20 9:03:00 AM
#64:


Google "brake lights"

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tm315
07/05/20 9:04:34 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Google "brake lights"
I did. I am unsure where you're going with this

Edit: are you saying he didn't see that fairly large crowd, and hit the brakes as soon as he did? Lol
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/05/20 9:15:29 AM
#66:


MarqueeSeries posted...
People saying that they deserved this need to have their heads rocked, that's fucking disgusting

Seriously. There's some fucking sociopaths on this message board.

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PrettyBoyMarth
07/05/20 9:19:18 AM
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I can just imagine how the media would eat this story up if the driver was a wHiTe MaLe *shrieking noises*

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ohiostate124
07/05/20 9:21:55 AM
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Black driver white victim

no wonder you arent hearing much about this
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l0bcity
07/05/20 9:23:24 AM
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69.

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Patchwork
07/05/20 9:34:57 AM
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Id like to know what he said in the police interviews, with regards to motive for his actions.

Its a tragedy, and one person lost her life and another was severely injured by this, at the very least, reckless idiot.

That being said, the troopers plea at the end of his on-scene video should ring true; do not protest on freeways. No one can guarantee your safety, because youre talking about wide stretches of road that must be closed down and unpredictable behavior like this of humans behind the wheel of automobiles.

Keep the protests to city/town streets, where traffic can be diverted with relative ease.

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ohiostate124
07/05/20 9:39:09 AM
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Patchwork posted...
Id like to know what he said in the police interviews, with regards to motive for his actions.

Its a tragedy, and one person lost her life and another was severely injured by this, at the very least, reckless idiot.

That being said, the troopers plea at the end of his on-scene video should ring true; do not protest on freeways. No one can guarantee your safety, because youre talking about wide stretches of road that must be closed down and unpredictable behavior like this of humans behind the wheel of automobiles.

Keep the protests to city/town streets, where traffic can be diverted with relative ease.
How fucking dare you


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Cleo_II
07/05/20 9:41:40 AM
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This wasnt a lawful closure of the interstate. The protestors had closed it for a couple of weeks from what I read. It was also 1:30 am. So its hard to say if the driver intentionally meant to hit them or maybe thought it was late enough that they would be gone and drove recklessly. Maybe he was intoxicated. People are jumping to conclusions really quickly.
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judasmaiden15
07/05/20 9:47:45 AM
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solosnake posted...
I watched the video, theres no way that guy didnt see the people. He was driving like 80 on the shoulder

It's a classic case of "those aren't my drugs I was holding them for a friend"

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Bass_X0
07/05/20 9:54:30 AM
#74:


ohiostate124 posted...
How fucking dare you


Because that's what is most important right now? Person loses their life unnecessarily and people are getting upset that this person with a female name is being referred to as female?

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CyricZ
07/05/20 9:59:20 AM
#75:


Bass_X0 posted...
Because that's what is most important right now? Person loses their life unnecessarily and people are getting upset that this person with a female name is being referred to as female?
Not bothering to learn anything about the person is an effort to unperson them, to treat them as a number and not a life.

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The Trent
07/05/20 10:02:33 AM
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whoops

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Bio1590
07/05/20 10:37:05 AM
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Cleo_II posted...
This wasnt a lawful closure of the interstate. The protestors had closed it for a couple of weeks from what I read. It was also 1:30 am. So its hard to say if the driver intentionally meant to hit them or maybe thought it was late enough that they would be gone and drove recklessly. Maybe he was intoxicated. People are jumping to conclusions really quickly.

The guy drove past a police barricade, I'm thinking he damn well knew what he was doing.
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krazychao5
07/05/20 10:40:57 AM
#78:


Bio1590 posted...
The guy drove past a police barricade, I'm thinking he damn well knew what he was doing.
from what I gleaned in the article, it wasn't police barricade and it was unlawful blockades of the freeway.

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gamestunner
07/05/20 10:42:34 AM
#79:


Bass_X0 posted...
Because that's what is most important right now? Person loses their life unnecessarily and people are getting upset that this person with a female name is being referred to as female?

I agree, tragic loss, but an unnecessary correction.
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Lorenzo_2003
07/05/20 10:43:12 AM
#80:


Bio1590 posted...
The guy drove past a police barricade, I'm thinking he damn well knew what he was doing.

Ok, but he could have still been drunk or high. Im guessing he didnt want to deal with the alternative (i.e. non-protest) route, so he took his chances at high speed and lost control of the situation. Anyway, we are all just speculating.

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tm315
07/05/20 10:46:06 AM
#81:


krazychao5 posted...
from what I gleaned in the article, it wasn't police barricade and it was unlawful blockades of the freeway.
This article says police barrier. https://www.npr.org/2020/07/04/887257243/2-people-injured-after-vehicle-careens-into-protesters-in-seattle

"One person has been killed and one hospitalized in serious condition, after a vehicle barreled past a police barrier and into protesters on a freeway overnight in Seattle."
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tm315
07/05/20 10:47:37 AM
#82:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Ok, but he could have still been drunk or high.
"At this point, officers have not offered a motive, though Capt. Ron Mead said officers believe the suspect was not impaired."

But yeah, all speculation. This is indefensible regardless though.
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Cleo_II
07/05/20 10:52:42 AM
#83:


tm315 posted...
This article says police barrier. https://www.npr.org/2020/07/04/887257243/2-people-injured-after-vehicle-careens-into-protesters-in-seattle

"One person has been killed and one hospitalized in serious condition, after a vehicle barreled past a police barrier and into protesters on a freeway overnight in Seattle."
Not sure why that article says that. Others Ive read just say they it was closed by protestors. On the video, you can see that there are civilian cars blocking the way.
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ThunderTrain
07/05/20 11:05:28 AM
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I've seen a lot of tweets talking about how the people deserved to get hit and I fucking despise the USA.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/05/20 11:08:22 AM
#85:


CyricZ posted...
Not bothering to learn anything about the person is an effort to unperson them, to treat them as a number and not a life.
No one has time to research every random person that dies and is discussed online

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Skype
07/05/20 11:18:38 AM
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Dude still drove over a barricade, regardless of who put it up. Not sure why people are using that to justify his actions.

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sktgamer_13dude
07/05/20 11:27:41 AM
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I dont know how people are defending the driver at all. When you see cars blocking the highway and have to go onto the shoulder, you slow the fuck down well before that because you should obviously drive with caution. And theres no way you cant see that mass of people unless youre impaired in some fashion (sleep, alcohol, etc). Should have had enough time to either dodge the people or slow down enough to where impact doesnt kill someone.

Like, theres no defense for the guy at all.
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TheApexPredator
07/05/20 11:34:56 AM
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Sorry to hear people got hurt and a person was killed, but a highway is no place to be protesting regardless if it was barricaded.

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Bass_X0
07/05/20 11:36:41 AM
#89:


Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
No one has time to research every random person that dies and is discussed online

If a stranger has a male name, or a female name - that's generally how regular people refer to their gender. If the name is genderless like Pat then people will ask to confirm their gender - "oh, is that short for Patrick or Patricia?"

News: "Summer has died."
People: "I feel sad about her dying."

That's just how the world works.

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Patchwork
07/05/20 11:38:10 AM
#91:


ohiostate124 posted...
How fucking dare you


This is where Id get canceled if I were important.

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RustyFerret
07/05/20 11:38:29 AM
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All he does is have to site the Provo shooting for fear of being shot by protestors and he'll go walking.
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QJD1381
07/05/20 11:41:35 AM
#93:


A tragedy, but highways aren't the place to be protesting in the first place, closed or not.

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CyricZ
07/05/20 11:42:39 AM
#94:


Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
No one has time to research every random person that dies and is discussed online

If you have time to post, you have time to research.

Bass_X0 posted...
If a stranger has a male name, or a female name - that's generally how regular people refer to their gender. If the name is genderless like Pat then people will ask to confirm their gender - "oh, is that short for Patrick or Patricia?"

News: "Summer has died."
People: "I feel sad about her dying."

That's just how the world works.
Would you be this indignant if it turned out they went by male pronouns?

Would you be this indignant if you got another fact of the case incorrect and someone corrected you?

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TheApexPredator
07/05/20 11:42:54 AM
#95:


ScazarMeltex posted...
I'm sorry to hear how stupid you are.

Can you please explain how protesting on a highway is necessary?

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Shadow Don
07/05/20 11:43:51 AM
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Wow fuck everyone in this topic victim blaming and making excuses for this fucking terrorist.

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Tropicalwood
07/05/20 11:46:02 AM
#97:


Patchwork posted...
This is where Id get canceled if I were important.

Bernie's been canceled.

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sktgamer_13dude
07/05/20 11:46:18 AM
#98:


TheApexPredator posted...


Can you please explain how protesting on a highway is necessary?

Can you explain how driving up the ramp the wrong way, turning around down the interstate, and then not slowing down when you drive onto the shoulder when the road is barricaded is necessary?
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MarqueeSeries
07/05/20 11:52:38 AM
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"Please protest places that no one has to be inconvenienced by so you wont be killed"

Let's condemn the protesters instead of the driver! Un-fucking-believable.
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NeoShadowhen
07/05/20 11:53:01 AM
#100:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Can you explain how driving up the ramp the wrong way, turning around down the interstate, and then not slowing down when you drive onto the shoulder when the road is barricaded is necessary?

Good point. Neither should be done.
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hockeybub89
07/05/20 11:53:31 AM
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The dude fucked up no matter who put up the barricade and why. Too many deliberate bad choices that only he was stupid enough to make.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/05/20 11:53:51 AM
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CyricZ posted...
If you have time to post, you have time to research
Disagree

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