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Sarcasthma posted...

That's Carly Rae Flintstone.

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/citizen-kane-slow-clap-gif-6.gif
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Lokarin posted...

I kinda want an open world game that takes place in 1910 ish... you can do a bunch of stuff leading up to WW1 like fishing and mining and crafting :V

Closest you'd probably get to that is something set in the Victorian Era.
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That's just crazy talk.
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FrozenBananas posted...

I think Jesse Eisenberg was a great Lex, but he was just in the wrong movie

I think he was a shit Lex, but would have made a great Riddler.
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I always confuse it with The 10th Kingdom in my head.
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Zareth posted...

Nah he'll eventually realize he's actually Akatosh and everything will be alright again.

Nah, he'll eventually get bored, do his job, and eat the universe.
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To be fair, I liked it for about 30 years, but even I hate it now.
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I kind of have to. I'm not actually worried about myself, but I'm basically my mother's only lifeline to the outside world (she's in her 70s, and I have to shop for her, take her to doctor's appointments, etc). So if I get sick either she's completely cut off for like a month while I recover, or I wind up infecting her before I start showing symptoms and then she's pretty much dead. Made worse by the fact that I'm in one of the worst places in the US in terms of virulence.

Basically, I kind of have to lay as low as I can until a vaccine happens.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

I disagree. RE2 remake made me jump and scream a lot when I played it in january

RE2 was one of the first survival horror games I ever played. Back in college, I had a whole weekend where I was alone in my apartment, and I turned off all the lights, and played through from start to finish.

By the end, I have every light in my apartment on and I was mostly playing kind of curled into a fetal ball on the couch with my legs tucked up. The creep factor kind of added up over time, and was just unsettling.

After that, though, the only horror games that really did anything similar for me were Clock Tower (which was way more jump-scary-ier), and the Fatal Frame games (which just added to the sheer creepy factor). It kind of just gets desensitizing after a while.
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I was actually considering having some tonight. Get out of my head.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

supposedly he gave phil hartman's wife drugs or a contact who gave her drugs. she was a former drug addict.

This is why Jon Lovitz smashed Dick's head into a table once. He's made multiple comments that he believes he essentially killed Phil Hartman, because he helped set her off on the downward spiral that resulted in her killing him.
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party_animal07 posted...

Horizon was yet another victim of my need to complete side missions. I got 80% of the way through and shelved it when DQ11 came out.

I loved Horizon so much. The ending actually made me cry.

Well, no, not cry, because I am a manly man from a long line of manly men who have learned to swallow their emotions and remain stoic at all times, but it definitely left a bit of a lump in my throat a few times before the end.
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Mead posted...

why do people always act like babies about these silly contests

For the same reason why people in Boston chant "Yankees Suck" even at concerts and other things that have literally nothing to do with sports or New York at all, and why people drive around with American flags plastered all over their trucks.

Humans seem to have an instinctive need to identify with things outside of ourselves, and tie large chunks of our ego to those things. So when people criticize those things, it's like those people are criticizing us. The more insecure someone is in general, the more likely they are to immediately leap to defend their beloved thing. And to completely shit on the other person with ad hominem attacks rather than trying to address the actual thing in question.
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You think the cornerstone Nintendo game of this generation is going to win a contest on NintenFAQs? That's certainly a bold prediction!



GameLord113 posted...

but this is GameFAQs where Link always wins (except against Draven).

And that took outside sabotage and botting.
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Zeus posted...

Now you're sending mixed messages. Agents of SHIELD seemed every bit as bad if not worse than anything on CW. The acting and writing killed my interest almost immediately.

Ehh, while I'd agree that the writing in Agents of SHIELD could definitely be bad at times, and there were certainly weaker actors on it, it was easily better than anything that I saw on Legends of Tomorrow or in the Crisis clips from the CW. I'd absolutely rank it higher.

That being said, I also stopped watching Agents of SHIELD after the first couple seasons, so it might depend on when you're watching.

I could see if the first couple episodes turned you off and drove you away for good, though, because let's be honest, the first couple episodes of pretty much every series ever are usually pretty weak.



Zeus posted...

Now that you mention it, I'm trying to recall ever seeing CCG booster packs sold at Hot Topic.

If they weren't, that would be a massive lost opportunity.



Zeus posted...

That's really the board game crowd at that point, so basically just comics and games shops if enough of those still exist.

Yeah, but I was talking more about aesthetics than mechanics, so that doesn't really apply.

Though honestly, I'm not sure that "boxed set" card games have more in common with board games than they do CCGs. Sure, you lose the "keep buying boosters and chase the dragon" element, and the "build your own deck" aspect, but overall playstyle with randomized card interactions tend to be the same.



Zeus posted...

While the interlocking rings are a great visual and tie into the name, it's not a particularly illustrative concept. I kinda prefer the coin/token look even if the game name looks stupidly out of place. The backgrounds for both cardbacks are trash, though.

Honestly, I don't think the M:tG backs are illustrative or evocative of anything at all. The five colored dots are absolutely meaningless unless you already know what the color pie is and how it interacts, at which point you don't really need the dots. And then you've got the "Deckmaster" part, which is a meaningless artifact left over from the time when they actually planned to publish CCGs other than Magic. And the brown is just kind of ass (and was mostly picked because it was cheap to produce, and at the time it was created WotC was basically a start-up company with no money).



Zeus posted...

but it also leads to issues like having to make more general cards multiple times.

the factions are generally combined in booster packs (for pragmatic reasons).

L5R basically used to get around that by having faction-specific cards come in faction-specific starter decks, and then the boosters just contained cards that were theoretically usable in any deck (though realistically, which Clan you were playing tended to influence your strategy, which in turn influenced which cards you'd be using, so it was similar to the different styles that the colors of Magic tend to encourage simply via color pie design philosophy).

But it's not completely out of the question to release booster packs that cater to a specific faction as long as they're clearly labeled. It isn't inherently more expensive than producing a more randomly-distributed set in boosters with multiple wrappers - and can have the added advantage of potentially showing you which factions are popular, if you want to phase some out or introduce new ones, or to see which factions need better cards to help make them more popular (something that L5R used to do, based on who was playing what decks in tournaments).

Magic's actually started doing something like this as well - if I play red/black 99% of the time, then buying boosters is almost worthless to me, because I don't care about any of the white, green, or blue cards I'm getting, and unless I'm trading (which was never as significant a factor as WotC always sort of hoped it would be), I'm almost better off just buying individual cards via a dealer or online. But now they sell "Red Boosters" and "Black Boosters", that I can buy and be sure that every card in them will be potentially usable in my deck (even if realistically, most of them will be common trash and pretty much worthless).



Zeus posted...

As for the different cardbacks in L5R, would they be in the same deck (meaning that both players would have some clue as to the next card) or did you have multiple decks in a game?

Multiple decks. Each player had a Dynasty deck and a Fate deck. Players also had to have a "Stronghold" card that represented your specific Clan.

It's hard to explain how to play in a short summary (it's more complicated than Magic, which is probably part of why it never caught on as strongly, but part of why the fans it did have were way more fanatical), but basically the Fate deck worked the way your cards do in Magic, with you holding them in your hand and being playable, whereas the Dynasty cards got played directly to the table each turn and are sort of like the Lands in Magic, where they represent territory you control and which generate resources.
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Unbridled9 posted...

Really? I mean, don't get me wrong, Conner's probably the weakest lead of the bunch; but as bad as the constant glitches or the dreary and lifeless city of London?

Hence why I said "pre-patches" Unity - Unity isn't a completely terrible game after they finally patched most of the glitches out. Obviously it was easily the worst game when it was borderline unplayable at launch.

As for London, I enjoyed Syndicate for what it was. Easily more than Connor's story. I'd probably rate it higher than Altair's story as well. Probably Unity and maybe even Black Flag (no matter how much other people might love it) as well. Along with stuff like Liberation and the like.

I will add that Rogue is seriously underrated, and most people kind of missed it because it was released on the previous generation's hardware at the start of a new generation (and when everyone was focusing on how fucked Unity was). But it's easily up there with the Ezio games for me.



afrodude77 posted...

He really needs another game kind of unfair folks compared him to a guy who got 3 games and an animated movie.

It's not even that. Connor doesn't even compare favorably to his own father, who you play the first couple chapters as.

Not to mention nearly every single choice he makes is wrong, and he effectively blunders through the entire game making literally everything worse and failing to accomplish anything of value. The only thing he really succeeds at is rebuilding the Assassin Order in North America - which we learn in Assassin's Creed: Rogue was a terrible faction of the group anyway, and absolutely needed to be taken down in the first place.

Connor borders on being the villain protagonist of his own game. Or, if you cut him more slack, he's at the very least an incompetent idiot and acts like a whiny teenager. He's not a likeable protagonist - and he's not helped by the fact that he's following Ezio and is in a game where a lot of the verticality is lost because tons of trees aren't really a good replacement for ancient towering buildings and crowded streets of the Old World.

Connor didn't need more time to win people over - he needed a personality transplant, a better narrative, and a better setting. He nearly killed the series, to the point where they had to Hail Mary their way to (almost always cool) pirates to win people back.
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T0ffee posted...

Well, Ross is probably the only non shitty person in the whole mess.

I wasn't including him, so I'll agree with this.

Dice Camera Action basically seemed to be "Broken Marriages: The Game", and an example of why I'm not entirely comfortable with people who work romance between PCs into RPGs in general. While Holly and Jared's clusterfuckery went blatantly public, Anna and Nate were quietly hooking up in the background and torpedoing their relationships as well (Nate broke off an engagement and Anna got divorced from her husband). It kind of makes the whole thing feel skeevy as hell.
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WastelandCowboy posted...

I've been noticing some differences between the original movies and those uploaded to Netflix.

This has always been a thing to some degree. Like when TV versions of movies would have scenes that weren't in the original release, because of complicated timing issues.

It would usually happen in movies where they had to censor a lot of stuff out from the theatrical version, then found they wound up cutting the movie too short. So they'd add back deleted scenes that had been cut from the original to fill out time.

There's usually some reason or another for changes, even if we don't always know what they are.
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BlackScythe0 posted...

Turns out the wife was a liar who was going around banging randoms too.

They had a sham of a marriage and everything she said was out of anger and an attempt to get sympathy.

It's a little more complicated than that.

What it basically boils down to is that everyone involved in the situation (including Holly) are kind of shitty people in general.
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Depends on how it's implemented.

If you go the Skyrim/Elder Scrolls route and go "There's TONS of lore, but almost none of it actually matters, and you have to read all these books we've scattered everywhere to know any of it", or the Destiny route of "There's TONS of lore, and it all kind of matters, but we're not telling you any of it and are instead hiding it all in codex entries that we'll make extremely inconvenient for you to access in any way", I tend to dislike it, or at least be apathetic about it.

But games where they can integrate the lore into the setting and narrative in ways where you find it organically as you play, and it adds to the immediate experience, I really like it. Franchises like Fallout, Mass Effect, and all tend to do it very well. It also tends to be a plus in licensed games (like the old Baldur's Gate games, or KotOR), where they can allude to elements of the world that don't necessarily matter to the current story, but help establish stronger connections to the rest of that setting.
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It's been scientifically proven that humans tend to grow stupider whenever we invent something to do the thinking for us. Our brains are lazy as fuck, and will do almost anything to avoid having to work.

When we invented writing, the ability to remember and pass on stories orally atrophied, because we didn't need it any more. Even today, cultures which are mostly illiterate tend to have a much better memory for things than ones where everyone can just look things up in books.

When we invented easily available calculators that could do complex math, there was a significant drop-off in people's ability to do more complicated math in their head (or via written workings). Basically, your brain knows you have your calculator as a crutch, so it stops caring.

The moment we added memory functions to phones and cell phones, our ability to actually remember people's phone numbers via repetition atrophied, because we didn't need it any more.

With the advent of the Internet, and the ability to look up pretty much anything you could ever want to know, ever, at a moment's notice, people's ability to recall details in general is getting weaker, because most people no longer need to remember things. The ability to utilize information has become more important than the ability to retain it.

Basically, people aren't getting smarter BECAUSE we keep making our phones smarter.

Eventually, we're pretty much aiming for the transhumanist future where we've all got smart AI chips in our heads that do most of our thinking and remembering for us.

The problem - and we can already see this now when people lose their phones or have to replace them - is that people who've spent their entire lives leaning on technology tend to be left completely helpless to do anything if they lose that crutch.
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ScritchOwl posted...

I second this but then again there was legend of zelda 2 which was the definitive zelda experience next to gamaelon on 3do

You say that sarcastically, but Zelda 2 was actually a pretty good game. The only reason people shat on it at the time was because it wasn't just a straight clone of Zelda 1, but an entirely new style of game.

Personally, I kind of prefer Zelda 2 over Zelda 1.
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Revelation34 posted...

Honestly it just always seems like a show gets worse as it goes on in general. Where the first season is usually really great then the other seasons start to drag on. Though in particular for Supergirl after they went full SJW the show started really going to shit.

No clue if this is true because I haven't really watched them, but I remember back in the day the consensus on some of the comic boards I used to hang out on was that both Arrow and Flash tended to start out weak, peaked really hard in their second seasons, and then just sort of spiraled down into being terrible afterwards.
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Zeus posted...

I still want to watch the Flash at some point

I can't get into the DC shows. I was going to watch Arrow, but then it started at the worst possible time (my cable provider and CW were feuding at the time so I wasn't getting the CW, then I changed cable providers for unrelated reasons, and almost immediately after Hurricane Sandy knocked out my power for almost two weeks), so by the time I could actually watch an episode the first season was half over and I didn't want to jump in at that point.

Then Flash started, and I was already less interested because of the whole thing with Arrow, and then even more so when Flash started crossing over with Arrow as part of a shared universe.

But then I actually went out of my way to watch Legends of Tomorrow because I always like time travel as a concept, and I really liked the comics where Rip Hunter and Booster Gold were acting like Timecops, so I kind of ignored the connections to the other shows... but the acting and writing were so bad. Like amateur high school play level bad. And when I asked around online, I was told "Oh yeah, all the DC shows are like that."

It's part of why I could only watch the Crisis crossover a few months back in bits and pieces as YouTube clips rather than watching the whole shows - the acting and writing really is that bad for all the shows as far as I can tell, and it's kind of painful to watch.

Granted, I'm not expecting film-level quality from throwaway CW shows, but at the very least I'd prefer something on the level of Agents of SHIELD (with the ideal being something closer to the Netflix shows) rather than something that's about on par with everything else on the CW (ie, bad, and aimed at shitty teenagers).

AND SPEAKING OF BEING AIMED AT SHITTY TEENAGERS...



Zeus posted...

Does anybody suppose that a CCG overtly based on Satanism would have much mass-market appeal?

Edgy teens would probably lap it up, and you could totally sell it in Hot Topic. You'd definitely get the soccer mom outcry, but in this case you'd be counting on it to act as advertising rather than as something that would discourage buyers.

My suspicion is, you'd be tapping into the same sort of market that buys stuff like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Epic-Spell-Wars-Battle-Wizards/dp/161768029X

The problem is, something like that would probably be extremely niche, even in the niche hobby that is CCGing. So you might not be able to turn it into profitability.



Zeus posted...

Also, when it comes to cardbacks, I'm not sure that any CCG has done it better than MtG.

I really liked the original L5R card backs, but they got screwed over when the International Olympic Committee decided that they own the entire concept of interlocking rings and sued them over it:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-c88tGc1ORUc/VgIDzgfx0aI/AAAAAAAAA6k/NWyFGLu4778/s1600/L5R-backs-300x255.jpg

The replacement backs were fine, but lacked some of the charm.

The new reboot of the game under FFG has changed the backs again, and they kind of look nice - going for the Japanese art style that makes it look like something right out of the samurai era:

http://www.shutupandsitdown.com/review-legend-of-the-five-rings

The one cool thing about L5R (and you can kind of see it in the new version pictures) is that there are different colored card backs (in the original black and green versions, in the new versions there's white, red, and ones with different art on the back). This is because certain cards have different functions in the game, and you can tell which cards are which by the backs. So they're functional as well as aesthetic.

I also tend to like card backs for games that show factionality (like the old Star Wars CCG from the 90s where you had Rebellion backs and Empire backs), though those work best in games where players have to choose opposed factions and have less individuality when it comes to deck building (ie, you can't play an Empire deck against an Empire deck in the Star Wars game, and you can't use Rebellion cards in Empire decks). But there's not a ton of games like that, because players tend to prefer the idea that they can use any card in any deck, and play any deck they want rather than having to pick a side opposed to their opponent(s).
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ChaosAzeroth posted...

My son absolutely loves them, and I'm not quite sure why entirely.

How old is he? Maybe he just likes the masks.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Wait are you saying my son, who doesn't watch anime, is a weeb?

Yes.

You'd better put him down now before it gets worse. There's no hope for him now.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

There's more weebs who like persona than anybody else who likes GTA V.

Aside from the fact that "Appeal to Popularity" is a logical fallacy, sales numbers would suggest the complete opposite of that statement anyway.

GTA V sold more than three times as many copies in its first 24 hours on sale than Persona 5 did in its entire lifetime so far. Overall, GTA V has sold almost fifty times as many copies. And Persona 5 is the best-selling Persona game of all time - before 5, the franchise was niche at best outside of Japan.

We can argue over comparative quality of the games all we want, but it's kind of objective fact that GTA is one of the most successful and popular franchises in the history of video games, and GTA V is pretty much the most successful game in the franchise. It has fans.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

GTA V is trash, Persona is good at what it is.

Yes, but what it is is weeb trash.
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FatalAccident posted...

damn i thought this was about Assassins Creed ._.

I also entered this topic assuming it was about Ass Creed.



Krow_Incarnate posted...

Syndicate

I'd disagree - I liked Syndicate. For me, worst is Unity (pre-patches), or Ass Creed III (fucking Connor).



Bulbasaur posted...

i assure you that assassins creed 1 is not a sequel

It was sort of a spiritual sequel to Prince of Persia, in a way.
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lihlih posted...

By the Sword X-O Manowar
The Michelangelo Code Archer & Armstrong
Valiant Zeroes and Origins
Turok Dinosaur Hunter
Quantum and Woody
Enter: Ninjak X-O Manowar

I'm torn between being impressed that there's so many Valiant books in there, and being sad because they're from the new line, which I never really managed to get into.

I really loved the original X-O Manowar concept, and Archer & Armstrong was a cool idea. No idea whether the new versions are worth reading, though.
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It doesn't really matter anyway, because the Mandela Effect is a bullshit non-phenomenon that basically boils down to "Humans have bad memories, and would rather believe that the universe itself has somehow shifted on the quantum level rather than accept that they might be misremebering something."
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You probably saw a parody version of it where they went full metal and destroyed the guitar, and are just sort of fusing the two in your brain.
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I've read the Evil Overlord list, so no hero's going to beat me.
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Corvid. I'm a crow, CAW-CAW!
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Bulbasaur posted...

and then think it wouldn't sell so they slapped the assassins creed name on it?

No.



Bulbasaur posted...

what the fuck does this have to do with assassins, there isn't even a hidden blade.

The spearhead does pretty much everything the hidden blade does, except hide up your wrist. Which isn't all that important when you're not really walking around tons of crowds in places where you'd need to hide it anyway.

On top of which, you literally get the hidden blade in the DLC, where it explains how it found its way to Egypt in the first place, for Bayek to find it a few hundred years later. And it's very strongly implied that the Misthios (canonically Kassandra, though possibly Alexios in your own game) is at least partly responsible for influencing the creation of both the Templars AND the Assassins from behind the scenes.

And the games have never really been about the Assassins in the past, as much as they're about the Isu and the Assassins in the future reliving the past lives to learn how to do stuff in the present (hence why you get stuff like Minerva more or less completely ignoring Ezio so she can speak through him to Desmond hundreds of years later). The main plot behind this game is that it continues Layla's narrative and leads her to find the Staff of Trismegistus.



Bulbasaur posted...

it also takes place BEFORE origins, which is the ORIGINS of the assassins in general

Technically it takes place in 2018. Everything that happens in ancient Greece is just happening in Layla's head in the Animus.

But again, even if Origins was the literal origin of the Assassin Order in its current form, it pretty clearly wasn't the "start" of anything in terms of the overall narrative. The First Civilization is one of the key plot elements in the franchise, and that happened tens of thousands of years before the beginning of recorded human history. No one "invents" the Hidden Blade in Origins - Bayek just gets given one. And a lot of the later Assassin ideology just comes from the Medjay that predated them - but where did the Medjay come from? About the only thing that actually has an origin in Origins is the literal words of the Creed itself.

If anything, Origins just sort of underlines a point that's been repeated multiple times in the series - the Assassins are constantly reinventing themselves. The Brotherhood of Bayek's era had completely changed by the time Al Mualim was running things. Then Altar explicitly reorganizes and rebuilds the Order in his own image, Ezio does the same hundreds of years later, and it seems like the Assassins under Desmond's dad are doing things their own way as well.
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It's mostly hippie shit.
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I shy away from public displays of affection in general, whether my own or other people's. I find it kind of awkward and uncomfortable.

I'll snuggle the shit out of someone in private, though.
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hypnox posted...

Rogue one, even though it was stupid how they have Vader kicking ass and taking names days before he is acting all oldmanly

This was my complaint as well. Everyone else is like "Oh, it's so cool!" But I was mostly like "Yes, but it's so out of character. And it's kind of lame that the movie segues directly into New Hope."

I kind of would have liked it more if they just alluded to New Hope. Like have someone transmit the plans to Leia's ship and then just have one of the Imperials be like "Lord Vader, we traced a transmission", and he's like "Well then, let's go get them." So everyone understands that they're going to chase down the ship and segue into New Hope without having to have it explained in a way that babies can understand.

But I don't expect Rogue One to be flawless (especially not after the prequels, and compared to the sequels), so I'm willing to forgive it for a few things. Like this, or like how all the characters are more like mythic archetypes than actual people, or that it feels like they crammed what could have been 2-3 movies worth of plot into one movie.
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blu posted...

Totally worth checking out...Gloomhaven if youre a WRPG person and Middara if youre a JRPG person and 7th Continent if youre an action/adventure person.

Or Legacy of Dragonholt, if you're a story-heavy person.

It's not a board game, per se - more of a cross between a Choose Your Own Adventure and D&D (so there will be reading). But it's a self-contained fantasy story that can be played solo or with multiple other players, where you create your own character with stats and skills and run through a somewhat sandboxy setting (ie, there's a map, and you can choose to go to any given location at any time. And there's a time track for measuring the passage of time, so different things happen if you, for instance, go to the bar at 9am as opposed to 9pm, or go to the library on Monday versus going there on Friday).

I played with my younger nephew, and he loved it.
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The Force Awakens because it's the only palatable one. Even if it is little more than a nostalgia drug disguised as a new film.

I'd easily take Rogue One over any of the new main series films, though.
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GTA V is easily the best for me. Both main game and Online, at least before Online got too bloated with microtransaction DLC and mission escalation to the point where it became kind of unplayable. I loved 3, VC, and SA, but they were products of their time, and GTA V/O sort of builds on a lot of that with a modern style.

I'd take Saints Row 2-4 over all of them, though. Not only do I prefer the "make your own main character" aesthetic of the Saints Row games more, but I feel like those games retain the sense of fun and over-the-top ridiculousness that GTA sort of lost sight of with GTA IV (and while GTA V got some of it back, it's still a bit too serious/artistic for its own good sometimes).

In my ideal world GTA VI would be a sort of fusion of GTA Online characterization and GTA V mission and story structure, but I don't see that happening. Which is a shame.
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You can't actually finish FFVIIR because it's episodic and you're going to have to wait for years to get the next couple parts.
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Sort of a combination of the two. I'd probably be inclined to order something I like but which isn't too expensive or in massive portions, but that's more or less how I'd order with absolutely no restrictions anyway. I'm not really into the idea of going someplace where I'm ordering $100 meals or eating three times the body mass of the average human regardless of who's paying.
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Most people who enjoy it tend to enjoy it in an "Oh my god this is terrible and cheesy" sort of way, not in a "Hey, this is a good movie" sort of way.
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I misread the topic title as "aborted", and I was really confused for a second.
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Except for the problems that are exacerbated by isolating people, sure.
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CedarPointcp posted...

spanish is a race?

By that logic, it isn't racist to call Covid-19 the Chinese Flu or Wuhan Flu either.
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Mead posted...

wow you missed the franchise becoming shit, then getting good, then getting shitty again, and then becoming really good

I feel like we'd probably disagree about the exact points where those things occur, but honestly that's mostly how I kind of see the series as well.
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SilverClock posted...

I just miss Desmond man. That was the highlight of the first two games for me.

I liked Desmond, but a lot of people kind of hated him and were vocal about it. So I feel like Ubisoft panicked and killed him off so people would stop complaining.

And then everybody said they missed Desmond and preferred his framing narrative to the "Hey, you're playing as yourself working for Ubisoft" in the present day segments (though personally, I kind of liked those too, and wish they'd done more with them).



SilverClock posted...

Then each game just kept getting less and less present day story, until it was reduced to mostly text documents. Though, I'm not caught up on the games to know if they ever ramped that back up.

Origins and Odyssey present day segments revolve around a new character, who starts out working for the Templars, gets betrayed, and eventually gravitates towards the Assassins. They mostly go back to the same "We're using the Animus in the field to find ancient artifacts by reliving the past" premise that was motivating the Desmond games.

Unfortunately, the new "main character" is somewhat unlikable and annoying, so it's like the worst of all possible options. I'd rather have no framing narrative at all rather than the ones we're getting now.



TigerTycoon posted...

So, I stopped paying attention to Assassin's Creed after they stopped the solar flare from destroying the planet, since that's over what drives the plot of Assassin's Creed now?

They basically discovered that, in spite of averting the end of the world, there's at least a few more ends of the world coming that they have to try and avert, so it's back to tracking down Pieces of Eden again.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Anything is possible!

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/217533671_TbUSk-L-2.jpg
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