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ZeldaTPLink posted...

kevwaffles posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

In the end, he manages not to go down as a scumbag.

I mean every murderer but Sayaka/Leon knows ahead of time they're dooming literally everyone else if they get away with it.

Probably, but then I feel it's more likely Hifumi just forgot about that.

Even then, as far as he knew Celeste was going to kill someone else to get out.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

ZeldaTPLink posted...

In the end, he manages not to go down as a scumbag.

I mean every murderer but Sayaka/Leon knows ahead of time they're dooming literally everyone else if they get away with it.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Okay, I had no intention of clarifying this, but since it's essentially spoiled anyway, yes, the last chapter is just the ending. It has it's own menu for the purpose of being able to see it again, I think.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

I mean one of you guys essentially spoiled V3-1 for me, so even here hasn't been completely safe.

(Don't think it was a playthrough topic at least.)
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

TomNook posted...

I bet most people who say "Oof" have never played Roblox either.

And here I thought it was the sound the Minecraft guy made when he took damage.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

I might have done that with AC as 3 was coming out, but it's arguable that was less burnout and more 3 being massively disappointing.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

I completely missed that they even did GotG until this topic.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

KCF0107 posted...

I may be crazy, and I know that I have brought this up before here or on Discord, but I swear that in The Walking Dead S1, Telltale used to have a message before each episode explicitly or heavily implying that our choices would have a profound impact on the story. After that turned out to not be the case and Telltale received criticism for it, it was patched to contain a more accurate message and future games used it.

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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Nanis will remember that.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Actually, now that I think about it, Batman S2 might actually surpass that thanks to the last chapter.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

The most your choices ever mattered in Telltale was early TWD S1, and even that was limited.

Well maybe some of the older stuff, but afaik TWD was when they started pushing that tag line.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Underleveled posted...

5tarscream posted...

30. Roman numerals baybee.

Well then technically you ought to be saying 15,625.

I see what you're getting at, but if you wanna play the "technically game" they're not variables so being beside each other with no spacing or operator doesn't imply multiplication any more than addition.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

It's also why the only (afaik) NMNI strat on him is not really viable to do without save state abuse.


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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

As long as you wait for him to bury his claws (which he'll do immediately as long as you don't Sneak Attack a revival on your team) and don't kill the claws, he won't ever quicksand. That's why countering on Ruby isn't the best of plans unless you want to truly solo.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Ruby just has absurd defense, so any strat has to use attacks that pierce (which KotR does), do a set amount of damage not based on attack stats (like ???? or Chocobuckle), or get so absurdly strong you'd be approaching overflow against anything else.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Well you won't counter if he's paralyzed.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Make sure you Morph them both so you can revive Aeris. Or at least that's what that one kid in school said in 1998.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

ZeldaTPLink posted...

I'm kind of sucking with skills too. They come very slowly. I guess the only way of maxing them out is replaying chapters?

If so I think I pass.

You can replay just the sections up until Free Time skipping text as needed and then jump back to certain spots. I think DR1 doesn't give you as many spots to go back to, though, so it's not as worth it.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Yup, that's why I said fuck it in DR2
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

azuarc posted...

Also don't look at how many times you need to give them stuff before you max out, because that's also a spoiler.

True, but also irrelevant at this point. Mainly people that went out in the first 2 cases have anywhere between 2-4, whereas most everyone else has like 5-7. However even that's not strictly true. There is at least one character with only 4 that is still very much alive at this point.

azuarc posted...

They fixed that in DR2. There's enough free times in chapter 1 to max out anyone.

Actually there's one shy of maxing anyone out in Chapter 1, because why make it that easy. Of course by DR2 I said fuck it and started replaying FT sections for anyone "lost" so I could actually have some skills to use.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

The Free Time guides are safe on the Wiki EXCEPT for looking at the schedules, if you're like me and don't feel like guessing at that shit.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

That was a hell of a backdown.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

But she was in a terrible show, so we should obviously freak out about seeing her in anything else ever for all time!
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

_SecretSquirrel posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

kevwaffles posted...

I was about to say it wouldn't be because there wouldn't be Kanji for "Leon" that the game would have been using. Then I remembered that, as I understand it, Kanji for names is fucking bonkers and they just sort of right whatever they want with no way to tell what you're actually supposed to call them, so you're probably right.

I think you misunderstand- 11037 is still the clue in Japanese. That its upside down English and not numbers is obvious to an English speaking audience but not to a Japanese speaking one.

I guess the whole thing with Kanji being bonkers explains why Japanese Sayaka would write her killer's name in a foreign language, which is something I've wondered ever since I found out 11037 was the clue in the Japanese version.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at. I figured the numbers were still the clue in Japanese because there is a lot of dialogue about those numbers in the investigation.

For example, if you've seen Death Note, Misa incorrectly identifies Light's name as being "Moon" at first because she reads it in Kanji and it's literally the Kanji for "Moon".
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

I was about to say it wouldn't be because there wouldn't be Kanji for "Leon" that the game would have been using. Then I remembered that, as I understand it, Kanji for names is fucking bonkers and they just sort of right whatever they want with no way to tell what you're actually supposed to call them, so you're probably right.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Well, Mondo's would have been the actual worst if Byakuya hadn't saved the narrative conflict by being a world-class douche.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

I felt like they sort of glossed over Kamurocho Hills suddenly being far enough in construction to be taller than the Millenium Tower in Kiwami 2, but for all I know the original was like that too.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

This is why you don't stop playing once a murder has happened until the investigation phase actually starts.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Not only is that awesome, it's actually the first non-human killer they've added.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Ah, that makes sense. I've used a controller for these games.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Yeah I don't remember Rebuttal Showdown being all that bad. Maybe V3's version was better and I'm remembering that, though?
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Pretty much right there in the name.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Try to be less predictable, Sephy. Now you're just boring me.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

ZeldaTPLink posted...

They say no accomplices, but the victim herself could be a unknowing accomplice.

Yeah, this was pretty much immediately where my head went too. Not because it really made sense to me, but going so hard on "no accomplices" just screamed "haha there was an accomplice, we tricked you".
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

kevwaffles posted...

The official report hasn't been released yet. While I have no reason to doubt it myself, it's funny how people who rail against anonymous sources will suddenly trust them implicitly the second it can fit their narrative.

Saying he had "broken bones" by itself is meaningless. Hanging is supposed to break your neck if done properly. The relevant bone in question here is the Hyoid bone.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-hyoid-bone-broken-neck/

Hyoid bone fractures are generally estimated to occur in about 20-25% of suicides by hanging (depending on the study) versus about 50% homicides by strangulation. Those 20-25% however are linked to incomplete hanging and age, specifically once you're over 40 due to "calcification of and immobilization of the joints." Epstein was 66.

An indication to continue searching for signs of strangulation for sure. Hardly a slam dunk.

The original dig was meant more for Ulti, for the record.

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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

The official report hasn't been released yet. While I have no reason to doubt it myself, it's funny how people who rail against anonymous sources will suddenly trust them implicitly the second it can fit their narrative.

Saying he had "broken bones" by itself is meaningless. Hanging is supposed to break your neck if done properly. The relevant bone in question here is the Hyoid bone.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-hyoid-bone-broken-neck/

Hyoid bone fractures are generally estimated to occur in about 20-25% of suicides by hanging (depending on the study) versus about 50% homicides by strangulation. Those 20-25% however are linked to incomplete hanging and age, specifically once you're over 40 due to "calcification of and immobilization of the joints." Epstein was 66.

An indication to continue searching for signs of strangulation for sure. Hardly a slam dunk.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

I didn't hate GTA IV per se, but I definitely liked both RDRs and every other console GTA from 3 on far, far more than it.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

True. In a game with 5 people who have never played before, even if they've read up on the rules, the overwhelming odds are that the Killer will absolutely dominate...

...unless the Killer picks Nurse. Despite how absolutely insanely busted as she is at max talent to the point that she really shouldn't even be in the game, a new player will get wrecked as her. She is the only Killer with a natural run speed that is actually slower than the Survivors.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Yeah, setting aside how literal interpretations of the Bible are fucking stupid and how other events in human history must have occurred that the Bible didn't chronicle even if everything in the Bible did happen, under a strict literal interpretation incest sort of had to happen. Pretty sure God never said that it was a good thing to keep doing that, though.

Adding rape into it is just as confounding as it is appalling, though. Does he think there is a point in time where every woman on Earth said no to every man on Earth?
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

VLR Spoilers

Luna ending had me weeping like a damn baby. Kind of shocked how hard that hit me in a story where I already knew there'd be a "happier" and "truer" ending.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Also, despite us saying that Killer is far more to play for beginners, it does give you a lot more indication of some of the less obvious game mechanics than Survivor does, so don't put off trying some rounds early on as Killer for that reason. Just know that you will not do well.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

WarThaNemesis2 posted...

CoolCly posted...

why shouldn't the killer camp a hook? when i watch streams i've noticed they don't usually do it and i assumed it was just because it's kinda cheap

I imagine it's because time spent camping a hook is time letting the other survivors wander around freely, while an unhooked player is still injured and will survive less time on the next hooking.

To get maximum points, you actually have to hook at least 5 times, which means someone was saved at least once.

Both do in fact apply. Also, as long as you don't go especially far away, in the time it takes you to get back after the unhook notification you should usually be able to find either the original victim or the person that unhooked them, assuming you didn't just find someone else in the meantime.

(Manners is choosing to go after the person that saved first when you find them both, at least in most cases.)
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

hockeydude15 posted...

And if you really can't deal with them prepare for a long game of Survivors farming the fact that you won't catch them.

The Endgame Collapse mostly mitigated that afaik, though I haven't played since they added it.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

The basic concept is easy enough to understand. Some of the strategy isn't as much, chief among them that as the Killer camping a Survivor on the hook is generally a bad idea and not just because it's "rude", to the point that even the devs really didn't understand that when they were making the game and the tutorial they included for over a year told people to do that.

Behavior themselves often make questionable decisions, such as their knee-jerk reaction to immediately nerfing Freddy to high hell for over a year. I've also never seen a company intentionally fix something and then re-break it a patch or two later as often as them.

Overall I like it but I haven't played in quite some time because my potato of a laptop can barely run the game anymore.

hockeydude15 posted...

the way the perk system works just penalizes new people to the game.

Especially when playing the Killer. At least as a Survivor you'll have 3 other people that probably have perks that the Killer has to deal with.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

But I'm sure Obama did it first, somehow!
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

I've given Lasa grief a lot and I have NO idea wtf you're babbling about.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Mr Lasastryke posted...

i didn't mean to call anyone in this topic out for posting anecdotal evidence, i just wanted to make fun of corrik's stupid statement.

Admittedly I wasn't entirely sure what you were getting at. Cyclo definitely was in that post you quoted. I figured maybe you were agreeing with him?

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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Actually they won't. FT didn't specify, but this bounty is specifically for being able to fully control an iPhone with no physical interaction ever, not just simply pull information off of it.

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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Yeah, most apparent suicides in prison don't get the US Attorney General announcing an investigation the next day. Or, ya know, ever.
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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3

Mr Lasastryke posted...

hey, according to corrik in the previous topic, anecdotal evidence is totally legit and if you use it, it just means "you base your arguments on reality rather than feels." good thing multiple people are using it now!

There's a big difference between "something happened one way once or twice so we should always temper our expectations to it" and "they gave an official statement of an event that just happened."

When people are talking anecdotal evidence in the context of a faulty argument, they mean the former.

The latter applies as anecdotal evidence in the legal sense if they went to trial saying that and literally provided no evidence at that time to back it up. Calling it out as the same way Corrik uses anecdotal evidence is flat out not true.

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"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3