Board 8 > Has any major conspiracy theory actually been proven to be correct?

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https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-gal-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-spotted-at-in-n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/amp/

Story just keeps getting more and more bizarre. Is she signalling she thinks he was killed by the CIA? Confirming he was an agent? Why the fuck is she not being herself arrested?

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Nrrr posted...

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/08/jeffrey-epsteins-bodyguard-igor-zinoviev-on-his-old-boss.html

Felt like this is an appropriate place for this article

Ha, oh man. Is this real? I'm pretty sure nymag is a legitimate institution

That guy should've just declined to speak on the record
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kevwaffles posted...

The official report hasn't been released yet. While I have no reason to doubt it myself, it's funny how people who rail against anonymous sources will suddenly trust them implicitly the second it can fit their narrative.

Saying he had "broken bones" by itself is meaningless. Hanging is supposed to break your neck if done properly. The relevant bone in question here is the Hyoid bone.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-hyoid-bone-broken-neck/

Hyoid bone fractures are generally estimated to occur in about 20-25% of suicides by hanging (depending on the study) versus about 50% homicides by strangulation. Those 20-25% however are linked to incomplete hanging and age, specifically once you're over 40 due to "calcification of and immobilization of the joints." Epstein was 66.

An indication to continue searching for signs of strangulation for sure. Hardly a slam dunk.

as a stand alone sure. In reality this is one suspicious thing in an absolute sea of suspicious things. This would have to be the worst coincidence of all time at this point.

Yeah, there have been a few. Notably, it's recently been proved that jet fuel melted Kennedy.
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banananor posted...

Ha, oh man. Is this real? I'm pretty sure nymag is a legitimate institution

That guy should've just declined to speak on the record

As far as I know it is real.

And keep in mind that this is not an anamoly. Look up Craig Spence, and the DC Madam. People who supply the illicit sex for the powerful often turn up as having killed themselves.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367943/amp/The-tantalising-mystery-Ghislaine-Maxwells-burger-bar-makeover.html

Nrrr the Sicko Hunter here, updating you on the story.

poll: what's your favorite burger at in n out?

57 y/o Heifer and Sicko, Ghislaine Maxwell was recently spotted out GETTING FAT off in n out! She used to provide disgraced pedophile Jeffrey Epstein with companions for his own in n out, but now she's OUT OF A JOB since he slipped on a banana peel and WENT TO HELL!

anyway the photos are either fake or poorly tampered with by the media company. If you wanna go with fake, you then gotta wonder...is she making the fakes to throw people off where she is, or are the fakes being put out there so we think she is alive?

Bizarre story keeps being weird.

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Wat.
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i mean the autopsy results literally prompted the lawyers to go "nah that's bullshit, THERE'S MORE TO THIS" so it's not like anything's decided yet.

so many weird things are happening around the case even after his death, epstein's life and death will both be the basis of so many conspiracy theories to come. i mean we're all focused on his death but his LIFE is full of them. i mean him having a plane with little girls on it is true, them flying over to a private island is true, the place was bugged to high hell too. so your starting point is already ripe for conspiracies.

where did he get his fortune from
why did billionaires trust him
how the fuck did he get an island
did nobody seriously object to him getting himself a $77 million mansion for free
how did that Florida case really go down, on every level, from the initial arrest to his being out of jail 6 days a week to... everything, really.

hell, want to talk about his prison time? who was the random girl who visited him for hours.
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Wang has a bigger tinfoil hat on than he had a week ago.
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...uh, what part of that was tinfoil.

lolita express is documented fact, his private island is documented fact, the place being bugged to high hell with multiple CDs and recordings titled [name and name] is documented fact, him gifting himself the $77 million mansion is documented fact, the Florida case is a huge mess top to bottom with the massive amount of free time as documented fact.

there's a giant mystery of his fortune too, that ain't tinfoil at all considering he just kind of... got it. it's one of the biggest mysteries around him.
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Yeah if you have been at all paying attention to the case, everything Wang said is just the tip of the iceberg stuff. Basic questions about who enabled him, basic facts about the case. The tinfoil hat stuff is things like the people who get into the moloch statues, or the Tony Rodham body swap theories.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/19/jeffrey-epstein-signed-will-two-days-before-suicide/

More weirdness, Epstein signed his will two days before death, but instead of leaving it to his brother Mark, it is going to "the 1953 fund", which is his year of birth. It is unknown who the beneficiaries of the fund are.

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Not really. That was a major counterargument from the beginning.

And one of its biggest high profile pushers was Wanniski... who DEFINITELY wasnt left.

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Wanglicious posted...

tein's life and death will both be the basis of so many conspiracy theories to come.

you said it.
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...well yeah.
the facts that we know of him are already deep in what would normally be a bunch of conspiracy theories but we know they're actual facts. you can't really go to many places when your starting position is:

"so this billionaire, whose punishment for banging/prostituting 30+ underage girls was an open-door year prison sentence, is a guy who had a plane called the Lolita Express where he took high profile people, including former presidents and princes, to his private island."

genuine question: where do you go from there?
every part of that is absurd yet they're all facts.
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No one who was part of GG or Pizzagate is allowed to talk about actual conspiracies

It's so embarrassing to see a confirmed billionaire child sex trafficking society treated with the same drama as an indie game review posted on a blog
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That's mostly true, although I feel like I heard he rented out the plane and some of the people who rented it never went to pedo island

You'd think the conspiracy crowd would be all over those flight records
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People have already looked over the flight logs and the black book. It implicates potentially two presidents, a prime minister or two, a member of the Saudi royal family, a member of the British royal family, several powerful and wealthy businessmen. Nobody can say for sure who took part in child rape and who did not, but it's pretty safe to say almost everyone knew about it happening.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/flight-logs-reportedly-link-prince-andrew-to-alleged-jeffrey-epstein-victim-virginia-roberts

One example of the flight logs directly implicating someone in the alleged crimes. Keep in mind Andrew was recently revealed to have even visited Epstein's residence after his first arrest.

Now this is actually quite a tinfoil hat theory, but it's fairly interesting given the rather obvious royal family links. Remember when Kevin Spacey released that bizarre video "Let me be frank" on the day that a lawsuit against him was announced for molesting an underage boy? The mug that he holds at the end of the video is a Queen Elizabeth commemorative mug for her 1953 coronation, that mentions her royal vow to never disappoint the public. His lawsuit is then dropped. Jeffrey Epstein was revealed to have left his will to a mysterious and unnamed trust fund called the "1953 fund". Dun dun dun.

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Oh, and the flight logs do not necessarily rule someone in or out as far as being involved or not. Ghislaine Maxwell got herself a license to fly a helicopter specifically in order to fly people around without it being on record.

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Here is another instance of how serious our justice system is when prosecuting the rich for child rape. Fun fact: Attorney General Beau Biden defended this decision publicly.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case/

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Government surveillance might be the biggest one that was confirmed. It was almost a sci-fi plot device in fiction, but ended up being not too far off from how it was often depicted.

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Alright folks, let's talk about Larry Celona. He is the writer for the NY Post that broke the story of Epstein's original alleged suicide attempt, his alleged successful suicide attempt, the first to report photos of Epstein's alleged body, and the first to report there is no footage of the suicide attempt. In 1999, Larry Celona rode on the Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein twice. Leaving from Teterboro, NJ (the hub of Epstein's sex trafficking network) to Palm Beach, and returning two days later.


So the Post, who is the major source for all of this, including the heavily doctored Maxwell images, is using a reporter who is very likely a compromised intelligence asset himself.

Big Time Conspiracy Heads Only Read This Shit:
Larry Celona consulted on "Eyes Wide Shut", writing fake articles for the film about a murder of a sex slave being covered up as a suicide. He later broke the story about Kubrick's death. He was also the one who broke the story about the death of JFK Jr.

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Lmao what the fuck
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https://t.co/VWfFj0PDCm

Ah

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So much bullshit surrounding this case...
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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VI2LC

It's apparently two broken cameras now!

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7417633/Millionaire-thought-key-information-Epstein-scandal-vanishes.html

Oh cool cool

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China is the king of this one. They have mobile abortion cans and forced one child policies.

You know that's not true right? It was never illegal to have more than one child it was just heavily discouraged and the family had to pay a large amount of money for any extra children they had. Source: I actually live in China and my wife is Chinese. She also has a brother and a sister and I work in a kindergarten where there are multiple siblings. The one child policy was a long time ago and it's surrounded by misinformation.

Hong Kong is a fucking mess. It all started because China tried to force through a bill throught he puppet leadership there to allow them to extract HK citizens which is something they can't do at the moment because of the one country two policies deal.
HK citizens said fuck that because they saw through it as an attempt to basically extract political discentors legally. China then "suspended" the bill. HK wanted it scrapping not sespending. From there it just kind of escalated due to mishandling of the situation and is now basically a cry for democratic elections which will never ever ever be allowed by the government.
As the global attention is dying down a little and in mainland China the protestors are being depicted as anti-Chinese criminals so the sentiment on mainland is very anti-HK because they are being reported as anti-Chinese. I expect very soon China is going to go into HK and basically flatten the resistance once they have enough mainland nationalism and the global media finds something more interesting to report.
My tin foil theory is I think this is exactly what China needed to take stronger control of HK because they'll claim they're just temporarily taking over to protect the pro-mainland citizens and we all now that'll play out. I feel like they manipulated the protests through use of triads (see the train station attacks), undercover police officers amongst the protestors (confirmed presence NOT confirmed that they encited and encouraged violence). I feel like China is on the verge of going into HK to "protect" the citizens and never leaving again.

5tarscream posted...

it was just heavily discouraged and the family had to pay a large amount of money for any extra children they had

And if they didn't/couldn't pay, the government just said "we highly discourage this" right?

Lmao you are a total commie tool, FOH with this
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I'm also sure the lopsided infant mortality rates for girls vs boys was also due to peaceful discouragement right?
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I'm also sure the lopsided infant mortality rates for girls vs boys was also due to peaceful discouragement right?

Youre clearly well informed keep it up.
The government wasnt killing babies. Families were deciding that a boy was more valuable to them and disposing of girls. Im not saying it was a good thing. It was an absolute atrocity but that doesnt mean that the facts you think you have are correct. The truth can be different to what you believe and still horrific. If you think that the government was going round hospitals and killing girls because they wanted a future population of all boys then I honestly dont know what to tell you.

It wasnt the whole population, and the methods of enforcement were different from one area to another. Some of it was horrific. Forced abortions and contraception and sterilisation. Im not saying I agree with it Im not a moron. Im saying there is a lot of misinformation regarding it. It was made law wether you agree with it or not, its not really up to an individual to pick and choose which laws they think are ok and which ones arent. If people willingly broke the law there was consequences. Often horrific and barbaric consequences but it isnt like they were attacking unknowing victims in the street like some kkk vigilantism.

blink twice of Xi Jinping is behind you watching you post right now

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Guys guys can we focus on the important subject of our good friend Jeff here

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5tarscream posted...

Youre clearly well informed keep it up.
The government wasnt killing babies. Families were deciding that a boy was more valuable to them and disposing of girls. Im not saying it was a good thing. It was an absolute atrocity but that doesnt mean that the facts you think you have are correct. The truth can be different to what you believe and still horrific. If you think that the government was going round hospitals and killing girls because they wanted a future population of all boys then I honestly dont know what to tell you.

Did I say any of that? The fact that people were so fearful of the government that they would kill their own children/let them die is just as reprehensible as the government coming in and doing it themselves.
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5tarscream posted...

It wasnt the whole population, and the methods of enforcement were different from one area to another. Some of it was horrific. Forced abortions and contraception and sterilisation. Im not saying I agree with it Im not a moron. Im saying there is a lot of misinformation regarding it. It was made law wether you agree with it or not, its not really up to an individual to pick and choose which laws they think are ok and which ones arent. If people willingly broke the law there was consequences. Often horrific and barbaric consequences but it isnt like they were attacking unknowing victims in the street like some kkk vigilantism.

Literally no one said this and I find it super creepy that you keep acting like people are
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He's just expanding on it after you called him a "commie fool".
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thanks for educating me Nrrr the Sicko Hunter i read everything you posted

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Lmao you read everything I posted, owned dude

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UltimaterializerX posted...

5tarscream posted...

It wasnt the whole population, and the methods of enforcement were different from one area to another. Some of it was horrific. Forced abortions and contraception and sterilisation. Im not saying I agree with it Im not a moron. Im saying there is a lot of misinformation regarding it. It was made law wether you agree with it or not, its not really up to an individual to pick and choose which laws they think are ok and which ones arent. If people willingly broke the law there was consequences. Often horrific and barbaric consequences but it isnt like they were attacking unknowing victims in the street like some kkk vigilantism.

There was a forced abortion policy at one point, right?

Yeah in some places. Like if you couldnt afford to pay and Im pretty sure in some provinces there wasnt even an option to pay. Thats what Im saying, Im not saying it wasnt fucking horrible Im just saying some people dont have all the facts. Im not saying the facts are good or that China was right. Just that the misconception that literally any Chinese citizen that fell pregnant after having a first child was hunted down and the child forcefully aborted is foolish.

yeah there were forced abortions, but it was only in some parts of the country or for the very poor

oh good thanks for clearing up my misconceptions (?)


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5tarscream posted...

I actually live in China and my wife is Chinese. She also has a brother and a sister and I work in a kindergarten where there are multiple siblings.

Is this the "my best friend is black" of Chinese communism?
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That reminds me it's fucking stupid and ignorant that people complain about the US bombing and destabilizing the middle east. There's like 20 countries in the middle east and the US has only destabilized like 14-16 of them. That's not even close to 100% of the middle east. My cousin had a long layover in Dubai last year and she said the airport McDonald's was great, so I know what I'm talking about.
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foolm0r0n posted...

5tarscream posted...

I actually live in China and my wife is Chinese. She also has a brother and a sister and I work in a kindergarten where there are multiple siblings.

Is this the "my best friend is black" of Chinese communism?

Basically