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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 2:45:42 PM
#179
pyresword posted...
It feels like you're intentionally trying to discredit LotM and get others to not take him seriously by calling his character into question, which fits the word "smear" pretty well.

If you aren't doing that then I apologize.
That side of it goes back to the majority of LotM's posts in this topic series literally being the "trump bad m i rite?" Twitter posts, and when we do have discussions like this there are a large number of places where he misses or ignores key points (willingly or inadvertantly, I don't really care which), so a lot of frustration is starting to boil over here.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 2:38:03 PM
#168
pyresword posted...
LotM is claiming that M4A, if improperly implemented, won't have the desired outcome and will end up bad for everyone, and you guys are responding by saying that the desired outcome is good (which I don't think anyone is disputing?) and so therefore LotM must be wrong.
Frankly, my only real interest with healthcare is finding a way for people to get out of the private system that isn't "oh, you got sick? Guess you're bankrupt now". Some form of single payer would do that best, but I acknowledge it's not the only way.

The other piece here that's at the crux of the discussion but that has not been highlighted today is LotM's complete fucking ignorance of how political barganing works. As always, he appears to be under the belief that you can start negotiations at a public option and wind up with a public option. Or at least, that's the position he's arguing from. Despite literally citing the ACA already.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 2:33:51 PM
#163
LordoftheMorons posted...
And again, it's obvious why they're against it!
Yes, becuase they're running a fucking scam operation and don't want to have their profits reduced at all. Fucking pigs, all of them. If any of them gave a shit about anything except bottom lines, they'd at least be fine with a public option existing.

Private insurance companies do not have any patient's best interests anywhere near their hearts, but you continue to go to bat for them every time you get the chance. If I didn't know better, I'd be questioning whether you were getting paid to do so.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 2:25:27 PM
#160
LordoftheMorons posted...
The ACA was good for insurers and for patients. And I'm not saying that good for insurers --> good for patients. I'm saying it's fucking obvious why insurers are against M4A (the plan would literally ban their current product!) and that their opposition is irrelevant to evaluating the merits or risks of M4A for Americans.
You know what the ACA originally had that the insurance companies railed against hard both then and now?

A public option
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 2:05:52 PM
#148
LordoftheMorons posted...
But there's not a one-to-one trade off between insurance profits and patient outcomes! You can do plenty of things that are bad for both
Why does this ignore the disgustingly long track record private insurers have of doing things that are great for profits but really shitty (and sometimes even functionally lethal) for patients? This is why Chris considers you bad faith, and frankly this is why I agree with him.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 1:35:07 PM
#126
Love how LotM doesn't even attempt to refute the comparison to a generic "trump bad!" Twitter bot tho
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 12:49:22 PM
#100
Jakyl25 posted...
Unsolicited.
Yikes. Like, what the fuck?

I ignore all unsolicited calls/texts for a reason. Though I did have a good conversation with a Beto campaign volunteer who was knocking on doors shortly before the 2018 midterms.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 12:45:25 PM
#97
Jakyl25 posted...
I get texts from the Bernie campaign.

They ask me who Im supporting, I say either Warren or Bernie, and ask them to sell me on Bernie

They then asked me who I supported in the 2016 Primary and I said Bernie

Then they said Great! So can we count on you to volunteer?
Unsolicited, or did you give them your number?
TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football 2019 Topic 2
Reg
12/20/19 11:49:11 AM
#75
Yeah but you're gonna lose this week because a couple of his lower-ranked players will have blow-up games, CMC will do his CMC thing even with a new QB and Kelce/Ekeler/Henry/whoever you have are gonna have mediocre games. That's how fantasy works.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 11:05:26 AM
#66
Caucuses are total bullshit tbh
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 254: Pete's Whine Cave
Reg
12/20/19 8:45:24 AM
#58
xp1337 posted...
the saddest power rankings i've seen since the cleveland browns being the favorites to win the afc north
Please, at least that one made sense on paper before the season started.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
Reg
12/19/19 6:56:30 PM
#422
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/19/court-awards-80-million-to-consumer-attorneys-in-equifax-case.html

Put Equifax out of business pls
(And TransUnion/Experian/the lawyers involved in this case while we're at it)

Genuinely disgusted
TopicReminder that Tokyo Mirage Sessions hits Switch next month
Reg
12/19/19 1:02:53 PM
#5
Welp, gotta finish DQ11 first I guess
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
Reg
12/19/19 11:52:33 AM
#382
Xeybozn posted...
...Would Trump supporters during the 2016 primaries count? If I remember right, pretty much all the established GOP powers were strongly anti-Trump until it was clear he would get the nomination.
I'd be much more inclined to say yes if the established GOP powers didn't line up behind him and co-opt everything the second it became clear he would, but if nothing else I'm pretty sure this is the closest answer we'll see going back 25 years or so.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
Reg
12/19/19 8:58:49 AM
#373
xp1337 posted...
I couldn't actually answer you! Substitute base if you must!
Good enough for me.

Regardless, the point you're making really highlights how the Republicans have essentially degenerated into a cult who will walk off whatever cliff the aforementioned Koch/Murdoch/etc tell them to
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
Reg
12/19/19 8:54:42 AM
#371
xp1337 posted...
oh you
No, I'm totally serious here. When was the last time the Republicans had an actual grassroots, and not a Koch/Murdoch/etc operation masquerading as one?
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
Reg
12/19/19 8:38:17 AM
#368
xp1337 posted...
the grassroots of the Republican Party
The what?
TopicNFL Pick'em Topic Week 16 (SATURDAYYY)
Reg
12/17/19 8:49:03 PM
#3
Saturday, December 21st
1 PM
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 PM
New England Patriots
8 PM
San Francisco 49ers

Sunday, December 22nd
1 PM
Atlanta Falcons
Baltimore Ravens
New Orleans Saints
Indianapolis Colts
Miami Dolphins
Pittsburgh Steelers
New York Giants
4 PM
Denver Broncos
Los Angeles Chargers
Dallas Cowboys
Seattle Seahawks
8 PM
Kansas City Chiefs

Monday, December 23rd
Minnesota Vikings
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
Reg
12/17/19 2:48:55 PM
#94
LordoftheMorons posted...
Good policy proposal from Romney and Bennet - a fully refundable child tax credit:

https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1206765781624770560?s=21
This is good and I am impressed to see Romney supporting it. Would also be very surprised if this got more than like two republican votes total, given that it's literally the party of plutocrats.
TopicAnime and Manga Topic 273: Dreams of being a Beastar
Reg
12/17/19 1:56:38 PM
#55
Kaguya was great, but the only place it really shined on its own merits (as opposed to the manga it was adapting) was the utterly fantastic voice work imo
TopicAnime and Manga Topic 273: Dreams of being a Beastar
Reg
12/17/19 11:37:01 AM
#51
It'd help if you told us what you did watch when asking for recommendations <_<

Astra is non-sequel AotY in my book, though.
TopicMLB Offseason Topic
Reg
12/17/19 7:45:48 AM
#56
As the resident Delino Deshields truther I am not a huge fan of the Kluber trade

It shows that the Rangers are, for some reason (new stadium opening this season) pushing to win now when I really don't think they're even slightly equipped to do so

(That said, if you're a Rangers fan and do not believe in Deshields, I can see you thinking it's a good trade)
TopicNFL Week 15 Discussion Topic
Reg
12/16/19 4:34:13 PM
#62
Oh
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
Reg
12/16/19 4:03:55 PM
#28
LordoftheMorons posted...
Fiorina says Trump must be impeached:

https://twitter.com/zac_petkanas/status/1206608359841042434?s=21

And Bushs former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge says that what Trump did was an abuse of power:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1206656367173390336?s=21
Why do these matter? Neither of these people have any authority over anything and they're clearly not having any effect on actual people in the federal government.
TopicNFL Week 15 Discussion Topic
Reg
12/15/19 6:16:43 PM
#53
christ, I had multiple WRs (Periiman, Miller) blow up on my bench this week that I chose to sit in favor of Beasley

I mean, I'm up by like 50 anyways (Ekeler+Zuerlein+Beasley + 53 vs Beckham + Fournette + Mostert + Higbee + Lutz + NO D/ST) and I initially picked those guys up as keep-aways from my opponent but still feels a little bad
TopicZelda plays Danganronpa Part 3 - Rise and Shine, Ursine
Reg
12/14/19 6:58:30 PM
#297
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Final guess: Monotaro is Taka
That's the one, yeah.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 252: Voiding Our Special Relationship
Reg
12/14/19 11:45:12 AM
#466
Haven't seen a single Steyer ad in Texas, but I do see at least one (And usually multiple) Bloomburg ad every single time I turn on the TV.

Even if I'm only watching the morning news for 30-40 minutes before going to work
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 252: Voiding Our Special Relationship
Reg
12/13/19 3:59:18 PM
#411
Other charges that Patrick Baker (pardoned guy who's brother did a significant Bevin Fundraiser) was found guilty of include robbery, tampering with evidence and impersonating a police officer (which he used to force his way into the victim's home to shoot and rob them)

He's also the pardoned guy who's co-conspirators were not pardoned.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 252: Voiding Our Special Relationship
Reg
12/13/19 3:52:05 PM
#409
LordoftheMorons posted...
He pardoned a bunch of murderers and a child rapist (and the brother of one of the pardoned murderers super coincidentally held a fundraiser for him like a year ago!)
Can I get a big yikes from the crowd?
TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football 2019 Topic 2
Reg
12/12/19 9:22:19 PM
#69
oh

I left an out player in my lineup for tonight's game because I was too busy doing other things to notice that he was even injured zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
TopicMy uncle who works at the Game Awards says that Crono will be announced for SSBU
Reg
12/12/19 8:41:56 PM
#13
Pirateking2000 posted...
Guessing Sora or Doom Guy
yeah my uncle who works at nintendo said it'd be Doomguy
TopicAnime and Manga Topic 273: Dreams of being a Beastar
Reg
12/12/19 1:20:36 PM
#18
Kemono Michi is entertaining. Its primary flaw is that almost the entire cast is one-note characters to an even greater extent than people joke about Konosuba's main girls being that way.

And yeah, it's pretty trashy.

Also between OreSuki, Hoshiai no Sora, Babylon, After School Dice Club and (if you're fine with trashy lowbrow isekai comedy) Kemono Michi, this season is pretty solid even without looking at sequels and such tbh
TopicLogicblade Ranks the Top 100 Anime OP's of the Decade
Reg
12/11/19 8:48:06 PM
#22
Sakamoto OP is definitely better than the show itself, though I hesitate to apply any better word than "ok" to the show.
TopicNFL Pick'em Topic Week 15
Reg
12/11/19 1:34:05 PM
#7
Thursday, December 12th
Baltimore Ravens

Sunday, December 15th
1 PM
New England Patriots
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Tenneessee Titans
Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
Philadelphia Eagles
Seattle Seahawks
4 PM
Oakland Raiders
Arizona Cardinals
Minnesota Vikings
Dallas Cowboys
San Francisco 49ers
8 PM
Buffalo Bills

Monday, December 16th
New Orleans Saints
TopicNFL Discussion Topic Week 14
Reg
12/10/19 9:46:32 PM
#149
Jakyl25 posted...
I dont know if being 4-8-1 is really that much better than being 3-9-1 from a successful season standpoint
I mean, if you're a believer in things like momentum and the X Factor, you could definitely see them winning some of the games they've lost since then as well
TopicFate/Mythic Fragment (CYOA)
Reg
12/10/19 6:34:08 PM
#316
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TopicFate/Mythic Fragment (CYOA)
Reg
12/10/19 5:45:47 PM
#310
Tom Bombadil posted...
((y'all WOULD))
Well, yes. With our original PoV character off the board, there is literally nothing stopping me from going full 4fun options

1
TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football 2019 Topic 2
Reg
12/10/19 11:31:48 AM
#67
Reg posted...
As expected of fantasy football

TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football 2019 Topic 2
Reg
12/09/19 7:46:54 PM
#60
If Ertz even just matches his yahoo projection (15.3 full PPR) my work league's 10th place consolation bracket team will put up the highest score of the week despite below-average showings from Adams and Carson.

As expected of fantasy football
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 251: Cop Out
Reg
12/09/19 3:52:48 PM
#470
LordoftheMorons posted...
It should have been struck down on free speech grounds. The law compels medically unnecessary speech from doctors.

Alt-right House candidate arrested for stalking:
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1204132777924411392?s=21
Does this rank higher than the woman running against Ilhan Omar?
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 251: Cop Out
Reg
12/09/19 11:30:03 AM
#451
TopicFate/Mythic Fragment (CYOA)
Reg
12/09/19 11:05:50 AM
#302
hombad46 posted...
5

Wah!

TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football 2019 Topic 2
Reg
12/09/19 10:17:14 AM
#56
HanOfTheNekos posted...
In one league, I started Tannehill instead of Brees...
It's not like Tanehill put up scrub numbers by any means, but damn, that'll sting if you lose by under 10.
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 251: Cop Out
Reg
12/08/19 11:28:30 PM
#444
XIII_rocks posted...
you end up with a country that acknowledges Johnson is bad but "just can't vote for Corbyn"

XIII_rocks posted...
you end up with a country that acknowledges Trump is bad but "just can't vote for Clinton"


Also Murdoch is a fucking stain on this world and I am going to make a point to piss on his grave at some point in my life. We will be better off the instant he drops dead like the piece of shit he is.
TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football 2019 Topic 2
Reg
12/08/19 7:13:48 PM
#51
turbopuns3 posted...
I'm gonna score the 2nd most points out of the 8 playoff teams and lose -_-
Fantasy football playoffs are an incredible crapshoot, unfortunately

I mean, the game in general is on a single-week basis, but the playoffs exemplify it.
TopicNFL Discussion Topic Week 14
Reg
12/08/19 5:23:43 PM
#58
wait, is that Kelce with a rushing TD?

LOL
TopicNFL Discussion Topic Week 14
Reg
12/08/19 1:15:36 PM
#22
LadyVyxx posted...
I'm sure everyone on my bench will light it up
you sure you didn't mean "my opponent's team" here?
TopicNFL Discussion Topic Week 14
Reg
12/08/19 1:06:18 PM
#19
davidponte posted...
I ended up going with Winston over Tannehill. If I lose, I want it to be because Winston let me down one last time.
.

ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah I play PPR. I should probably mention there's a minor bonus to RB's for volume. We give 0.2 points per rush attempt to try close the non pass catching RB's upto the WR field for flex position purposes.

Oh, uh, this actually makes Ekeler vs Drake an interesting discussion, though I think I still choose Ekeler here. They're both better than any of your WRs regardless and it's not enough to make Powell a factor though.
TopicNFL Discussion Topic Week 14
Reg
12/08/19 12:58:45 PM
#16
Sutton/Chark/Ekeler seems like the obvious play to me.

I think Ekeler is the best fantasy guy on that list by a bit if you're playing PPR, with #2 being Drake. Powell should not be a consideration with the Jets Coach and O-Line imo. Boyd is an intriguing play with Dalton back under center, but I still think the other two are better and playing Woods means relying on Goff which is a big yikes from me. You could make the case to go Sutton/Boyd if the risk of a bust scares you more than the higher ceiling.

meanwhile I've been flopping Robby Anderson and Cole Beasley in my WR2 slot for the past half hour and I think I'm settling on Anderson but I'm a bit scared in spite of the theoretical A+ matchup
TopicZelda plays Danganronpa Part 3 - Rise and Shine, Ursine
Reg
12/08/19 12:28:48 PM
#215
The Popo posted...
Possibly the best music in the series, IMO

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