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davidponte
12/08/19 5:02:09 PM
#51:


https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1203795194799415297?s=19

Imagine rooting for this guy's brother
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GranzonEx
12/08/19 5:08:07 PM
#52:


I think we need to save some of our trick plays for the playoffs

hoping we get out of this game with no injuries on the defense

very surprised that our backup backup center is doing ok

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davidponte
12/08/19 5:12:15 PM
#53:


what the fuck is the secondary doing

awful twice on that drive

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xp1337
12/08/19 5:12:48 PM
#54:


davidponte posted...
what the fuck is the secondary doing
admiring the tenacity of mahomes

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neonreaper
12/08/19 5:13:16 PM
#55:


its over

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davidponte
12/08/19 5:16:00 PM
#56:


time to head out to a work christmas party and not a second too soon!

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xp1337
12/08/19 5:16:43 PM
#57:


brady benched for the second half confirmed

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Reg
12/08/19 5:23:43 PM
#58:


wait, is that Kelce with a rushing TD?

LOL
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neonreaper
12/08/19 5:24:03 PM
#59:


now its super over.

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Leonhart4
12/08/19 5:25:04 PM
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Dr_Football
12/08/19 5:32:17 PM
#61:


Cautiously optimistic for now

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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 5:43:54 PM
#62:


Lol brady

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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 5:55:11 PM
#63:


Can someone quickly tell me what is the most likely scenario for the pats to lose their first-round bye?

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Leonhart4
12/08/19 5:57:43 PM
#64:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Can someone quickly tell me what is the most likely scenario for the pats to lose their first-round bye?

Lose to the Bills when they play again.

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Bartzyx
12/08/19 5:59:01 PM
#65:


Chiefs win out and pats drop one of their last 3 games is most likely

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:00:00 PM
#66:


Leonhart4 posted...


Lose to the Bills when they play again.


Yeah thats really the only way

They lose to the Bills and the Chiefs win out

Theres no way the Pats lose to the Bengals or Dolphins
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xp1337
12/08/19 6:01:30 PM
#67:


excuse me the bengals showed they could hang with the most elite division in football when they defeated the vaunted new york jets - a team, may i remind you, that completely disrespected an actual nfl division leader

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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 6:02:33 PM
#68:


I absolutely think Buffalo is better than NE at this point. I suppose the Bills can still take the division too, right?

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:03:38 PM
#69:


Chiefs have Broncos and Chargers at home, with @ Bears in between, so they would be favored to win out barring injury.

Bills winning in Foxboro is the least likely part of this plan
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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 6:05:28 PM
#70:


This is all the more reason the playoff byes need to end

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:06:24 PM
#71:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
This is all the more reason the playoff byes need to end


Add one more team to each conference playoffs, only the best team in each conference gets a bye
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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:07:05 PM
#72:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
I absolutely think Buffalo is better than NE at this point. I suppose the Bills can still take the division too, right?


If you assume Pats only lose to the Chiefs and Bills, and the Bills win out, it would go to tiebreakers
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Xuxon
12/08/19 6:07:51 PM
#73:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
I absolutely think Buffalo is better than NE at this point. I suppose the Bills can still take the division too, right?
yes but the Patriots are a game ahead and own the tiebreaker even if they lose this and the remaining game against the Bills. so they'd also have to lose to the Dolphins or Bengals.

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xp1337
12/08/19 6:08:18 PM
#74:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
I absolutely think Buffalo is better than NE at this point. I suppose the Bills can still take the division too, right?
I mean, technically, yeah.

Assuming the Patriots lose they're 10-3 to the Bills 9-4 and would play in Week 16. Would be a must-win for the Bills because they already lost to the Patriots before and a Patriots sweep would clinch the division for them regardless of the other games.

Assuming they both won their other games it'd go to common games which I think goes to the Patriots but I don't care enough to confirm this.

tl;dr: Yeah, but Bills absolutely must beat the Pats in Week 16 and probably need them to drop another game somewhere - all while winning out themselves of course.

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:11:14 PM
#75:


I just went and did that research

Yes, Pats have the better record against common opponents

So the Bills would need to beat them and have them drop another game
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Xuxon
12/08/19 6:11:16 PM
#76:


xp1337 posted...
all while winning out themselves of course.
the Bills can drop the game against the Steelers and still win the division if the Pats lose to the Dolphins, because then it would go to divisional record tiebreaker before reaching common games

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xp1337
12/08/19 6:11:47 PM
#77:


Xuxon posted...
the Bills can drop the game against the Steelers and still win the division if the Pats lose to the Dolphins, because then it would go to divisional record tiebreaker before reaching common games
ah yes, true.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 6:13:20 PM
#78:


God the pats' schedule is ridiculously easy

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:14:41 PM
#79:


For the record, they have 12 games against common opponents (as any two teams within the same division would have). Pats are 9-1 with 2 left, Bills are 7-3 with 2 left
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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:17:43 PM
#80:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
God the pats' schedule is ridiculously easy


The Bills have the same schedule except they got the Titans and Broncos, and the Pats got the Texans and Chiefs. That should be an advantage for Buffalo if you think theyre the better team.
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xp1337
12/08/19 6:22:30 PM
#81:


Yeah, any two teams in a division only have two unique games on their schedule from the others - two opponents of the same conference who placed the same as them in their division the prior season (division winners play division winners, last place v last place, etc.)

Since the AFC East plays the AFC North and 2.5 bye-I mean the NFC East this year, those two teams come out of the AFC West and South this season.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 6:23:54 PM
#82:


Jakyl25 posted...
The Bills have the same schedule except they got the Titans and Broncos, and the Pats got the Texans and Chiefs. That should be an advantage for Buffalo if you think theyre the better team.
They're a better team NOW

But yeah their schedule explains why their record is also inflated

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:27:51 PM
#83:


Man the NFC East winner is gonna get trucked by the NFC West 2nd place
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Leonhart4
12/08/19 6:28:45 PM
#84:


Jakyl25 posted...
Man the NFC East winner is gonna get trucked by the NFC West 2nd place

Hey man if the 7-9 Seahawks can win a game so can the Cowboys

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xp1337
12/08/19 6:29:38 PM
#85:


Jakyl25 posted...
Man the NFC East winner is gonna get trucked by the NFC West 2nd place
get hyped for a 13-3 team on the road against a 7-9 team in the wild card round

wait can the eagles win at 6-10 we can get the more than twice the wins stat if so! actually even if they can't that just means the cowboys could!

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Xuxon
12/08/19 6:32:38 PM
#86:


i hope the NFC East winner is 7-9 and beats the Seahawks, then loses to the Saints for poetic justice

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ShatteredElysium
12/08/19 6:33:46 PM
#87:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Basically my matchups as they are right now

League 1
20 Points + Wentz, Ekeler, Chark, Kelce, Boswell
vs
Mahomes, Fournette, Carson, Tyreek, Logan Ryan (averages 18.7), Lambo

League 2
40 Points + Kyler Murray, Michel
vs
Goff, Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Jordan Hicks (averages 25.5 points)

Now projected to win by 25 in League 1 and lose by 14 in League 2. It's gonna be more than that in League 2 because clearly Sony Michel is not doing anything more today
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Leonhart4
12/08/19 6:34:51 PM
#88:


We can technically get a 4-way tie at 6-10 in the NFC East

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:35:21 PM
#89:


xp1337 posted...

wait can the eagles win at 6-10 we can get the more than twice the wins stat if so!


Not only can the Eagles still win at 6-10

So can Washington
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xp1337
12/08/19 6:35:43 PM
#90:


Leonhart4 posted...
We can technically get a 4-way tie at 6-10 in the NFC East
this is the dream

make it happen goodell think of the ratings

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:36:31 PM
#91:


Leonhart4 posted...
We can technically get a 4-way tie at 6-10 in the NFC East


Nope. Still a Giants vs Washington game
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Dr_Football
12/08/19 6:37:36 PM
#92:


Chiefs special teams outside of Butker have been very poor this year

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:38:55 PM
#93:


But good lord I am now imagining an improbable Giants run leading to Eli beating Brady again
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xp1337
12/08/19 6:39:52 PM
#94:


Jakyl25 posted...
Not only can the Eagles still win at 6-10

So can Washington
Doesn't their 0-3 Division record preclude this? Cowboys are 4-0 so even if they lose out/Washington wins out they're guaranteed a better division record at 4-2. Or is there some wacky multi-way tie involving the Giants or Eagles being there that dodges this and knocks out the Cowboys in the first round of tiebreaking on another criteria?

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:42:02 PM
#95:


If its a 3 way tie, the FIRST tiebreaker is the teams records solely against the other two

So figure that out
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xp1337
12/08/19 6:44:54 PM
#96:


Jakyl25 posted...
If its a 3 way tie, the FIRST tiebreaker is the teams records solely against the other two

So figure that out

Would be:

Washington: 2-2
Eagles: 2-2 (must win vs. Cowboys for this scenario to play)
Cowboys: 2-2

the dream is dead

Pretty sure they're eliminated from playoff contention.

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:46:00 PM
#97:


Okay in that scenario, theyd all be 2-2 against each other so then it would go to overall division record including the Giants

So yeah I guess Washington is eliminated with their loss today

But now I gotta see if the Giants are
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Jakyl25
12/08/19 6:51:48 PM
#98:


Yeah they are eliminated.

If they win out, then theyd be in a 6-10 tie with only the Cowboys, who already swept them this season
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Dr_Football
12/08/19 6:53:57 PM
#99:


We sure are giving the Pats every chance to win this game

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ertyu0078
12/08/19 6:56:16 PM
#100:


Fumbles titans score lol raiders
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