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Be patient, Jen. We just need to wait for it to stop trickling up. Then it'll trickle down.

Any day now

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Does hipster salad wear tight jeans and have a man-bun?

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This is for regular sandwiches/wraps only, not cooked. For example: no tuna melt, as those typically have cheese on them

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Mead posted...

Cheese does not belong on any of them

Shit I forgot this option. The whole poll is a farce now

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NightMareBunny posted...

at least I'm Not DuckBear or Gary Manella

Nope, you're worse

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This is for plain sandwiches, not cooked. For example: no tuna melt, because those typically have cheese on them.

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I chose a job with less pay when my first kid was born, to improve my quality of life, and have no regrets. Money is still good, just not what it was.

I do miss my old job, but only because it involved heavy travel and I miss seeing the country. But overall I'm happier at my new job, and no amount of money can make up for that.

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You're better off I hear Steam is malware anyway

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Shadowbird_RH posted...

rather than a slipshod mishmash of nonsense thrown together at a whim without the full understanding of how things will develop going forward.

The Marines worked out pretty well.

jfc you and Link are short-sighted as fuck

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It's less about establishing a base of operations in space than it is ensuring we have the capability to meet opposing forces in multiple theaters of war without running the risk of dividing and diminishing our forces to do it.

If say Russia launched a full-blown campaign against the US, including an attack against our assets in orbit, would our Air Force alone be capable of handling both air and space? Maybe. Hell, probably in the short term. But I'm advocating for the future. For planning ahead. For having an understanding that other nations are developing their capabilities as we speak, and we have to prepare to meet and exceed their capabilities

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Unbridled9 posted...

TBH, this was the sort of thing that was going to have to happen inevitably. The simple fact is that space, though not a major ground as of yet, is rapidly growing in importance and will certainly become an important combat zone in the future. I think a lot of people who laugh at the idea do so because, to them, space has pretty much just been the place for tv/phone satellites, telescopes, and NASA probes. Which is stupid. It's like saying you don't need a navy because all anyone does out in the ocean is fish.

Exactly. It's short-sighted and even naive to think this doesn't need to happen. Russia is already developing weapons. Other countries likely are, as well. This is why it needs to happen sooner rather than later. I can see Link's point that the Air Force can handle things in the interim, but as the need grows we'll need a dedicated force to serve in space. Best to get things underway so that we can have the force fully operational before other countries get their capabilities up.


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Thanks ^

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I've already answered that multiple times, Link. Go back and read my previous posts.

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LinkPizza posted...

And I never said the marines themselves werent valuable. But I dont see why even they need to be a separate branch. Theres not real point...

Because...
Far-Queue posted...

You lack the ability to understand basic concepts of strategy and preparedness.

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zebatov posted...

I like Link but he also couldnt grasp the concept of a boat fitting underneath a bridge so Im unsure if your words will be wasted here.

I like Link, too. But for real I feel like he's not reading what I've posted.

Take the post below yours, for example. I've already explained multiple times why it's necessary to have a separate, dedicated branch with a focus on defending US space. I don't know how to explain it any clearer.

I've drawn the comparison to the Marines, which Link even went so far as to say are unnecessary. Makes it hard for me to take him seriously. It's no wonder he can't see the value in a Space Force if he doesn't even see the value in the Marines.

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Link, you clearly lack foresight, and the ability to understand basic concepts of strategy and preparedness. I've answered your questions a dozen times throughout this topic and you seem incapable of grasping anything. The answers are there if you feel like reading what I've posted over again.

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Jfc Link are you reading my posts? I'm repeating myself a lot here. Hopefully this shit sinks in at some point.

They won't be sufficient for the reason I already stated: as tech advances and countries develop weapons for space, space will become a legitimate theater for combat. When this happens, anyone without a dedicated space force runs the risk of being spread too thin using one branch to fight a war on two fronts, where having a second branch whose sole purpose is to operate in that specific theater would be much more effective.

Again, I draw the comparison to the Marines, who were created specifically to give the Navy a force that could fight on land as well as sea. They started small, but grew over time and are now a key part of our military. Would you say the Marines are unnecessary and should revert back to regular Navy?

The space force is being created specifically so that the Air Force can have an arm that can operate solely in space, so that the Air Force doesn't have to pull double duty. They'll start out small and grow over time as needed. Possibly start as a department of the Air Force, then maybe become a full-fledged branch as they grow. And they're absolutely needed, as I've already shown Russia is developing weapons for space. Other countries will follow suit.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

Wow totally mispresenting the incident to defend a terrorist.

Yeah, but it's Zues so I guess not having a clear grasp of reality is to be expected.

For anyone who doesn't know. The "one death" was a militia member who tried to drive through a police barricade, and when his truck got stuck he exited the vehicle and reached for his waistband. Law enforcement shot him.

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to confront law enforcement agencies. He vows to stay in office, of course.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-washington-lawmaker/washington-state-lawmaker-under-pressure-to-step-down-over-domestic-terrorism-idUSKBN1YO1S0

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Mead posted...

Of course we arent in Star Wars, that all happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away

This, duh

Try sticking with facts and reality, Muscles

Also, relevant:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-space/u-s-warns-on-russias-new-space-weapons-idUSKBN1KZ0T1

"But we're not under attack from space!"

Wrong, kiddos. Try reading the news once in a while.

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Here, I'll post your rebuttal for you to save time: "We don't need it right now though because Air Force!"

My response: Air Force will be insufficient if any nation at odds with the US raises their capabilities to attack us from space, so we need to prepare for that possibility ahead of time. It's called being battle-ready.

Sure, let's wait until Russia knocks out half our satellites until we create a force that can counter their offensive measures. Glad you're not in charge of our military, Link.

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No, we don't have a space force. We have an air force with limited capabilities to engage in missions in space. We need to create a space force ahead of any competition.

Once again, ahead of any competition.

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Mead posted...

Before they were their own branch of the military we still had an Air Force but it was just a division of the army. Theres no way it would be what it is today if it hadnt been made into its own military branch.

Exactly. And over time they've become arguably the most vital part of our military. And over time, the "space force" or whatever the fuck they end up calling it may become the most vital arm of the military.

A department of the Air Force might be a good start but over time space will become the newest frontier. Exploration, colonization, resources - all the things that historically are what we fight over.

They'll need to become they're own department at some point, and I'm all for getting things started sooner, before any potential rivals can get a leg up on the US.

LinkPizza posted...

What I dont understand is why you think making a Space Force puts us ahead in any way when we literally already have a Space Force thats called something different. We already as far ahead as were going to get. Making a Space Force does change that. Well be in the same position. Just with less people in both forces...

Creating a space force literally puts us ahead of rival nations who haven't created a dedicated space force.

Not sure why you think it would diminish the strength of the Air Force. Much like the Marines, they would likely start out as a small, specialized department of the Air Force, and grow over time to fit our needs.

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You keep going back to the same point - that it's not an immediate need - which is exactly the point I'm arguing. That we need to be ahead of our needs here.

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And we need to ensure we stay ahead. There's only so much spying and reconnaissance we can do. We don't know what other countries are doing, which is why we need to plan for the future.

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Staying ahead of the competition will maintain superiority in the arena of space. Don't know how many ways I can say the same thing before you understand what I mean. Russia, China, Japan, Europe, India... They all have fairly well-developed space programs. Of those I'd say Russia and possibly China could potentially weaponize their space program, if they haven't already started to. The US needs to ensure they're prepared to counter any measures they put in place. And as other countries expand their influence in space, the US needs to stay ahead of the curve.

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Right, Link. But as needs grow we'll need more and more personnel, and that will warrant a dedicated force. Best to start planning now before we're trying to play catch-up.

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I don't know what you're not getting about this. Once again, this thing isn't just going to pop out of thin air. It's a process. Of course they can't train until they have jobs. I'm not putting the cart before the horse, only pointing out that the US needs to create a military force dedicated to space, and the sooner the better.

And all this stuff you keep saying about "we don't need it right now..." is exactly my point. We need to make sure our fighting forces are in place ahead of any potential rivals. Meaning, we need to out ours in place before it's needed, or else we may end up getting caught with our pants down. We have personnel and equipment to take care of our needs now. But we need to ensure that we're leading the world in technology and capabilities to patrol space. You would rather wait for Russia to expand their capabilities, leaving the US vulnerable to potential attack in the interim? That makes no sense. Part of keeping our military superiority in place is being prepared for any and all threats.

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LinkPizza posted...

Making a branch isn't going to make new people, though. If they need more people, they recruit more people. It's as simple as that. Making a new branch when we still don't need one is what's going to spread us too thin when we're already hurting for people...

And as of right now, since we do handle space, we can't do more by just getting a branch that does exactly what the Air Force does and calling it something different. That's what I don't understand. You going to get a few people who already does what the Air Force does, call it something different, and think that means we have superiority now? That's doesn't make any sense to me...

When there's a need for the Space Force, we get it. Because if we make it now, there's nothing they're doing that isn't already being handled... Which is a waste of money and resources... Which we already don't have... And cuts manning, which is already low...

Are you under the impression that I'm saying that Trump announcing a Space Force means it's going to materialize out of thin air? As I've already said, they need to plan and build this thing properly.

It's going to take time. It's going to take resources. It's going to take a whole hell of a lot of money. And it's going to require people. Some I would think would come from other branches until the thing was fully operational, but yes. They'll need to recruit and train a shit ton of people. And they need to start to get this thing rolling. Saying they need to start getting this thing going does not mean "instantly put together a Space Force out of nothing to the detriment of the Air Force". It means plan the thing out, study what needs and goals we need to fulfill, invest in training and tech and weaponry, build said tech and weapons, train the soldiers, etc and etc and etc.

I agree to an extent that it doesn't necessarily need to be a whole separate branch, which is why I drew the comparison to the Marines. But it definitely needs to happen, and the sooner the better.

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Having a branch dedicated to space is going to be vital in the future. Having the Air Force patrolling space is fine for now. But we need to build towards having a full-fledged branch or subsidiary dedicated to space, or we run the risk of being spread too thin or being overmatched in the area of space if some other country accelerates their own space force program ahead of ours, or if some conflict arises where we need the Air Force to fight a battle on two fronts.

Of course it's expensive, but it's also crucial to maintaining complete military superiority.

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LinkPizza posted...

Owned is the wrong word. Most like in our jurisdiction or our responsibility.

The reason I personally dont think it needs to be its own branch (or at least yet) is because there is no reason for it yet. It would just be a waste of money and resources. Especially building a bunch of new bases, changing existing bases, and actually getting people to join AND stay in. And it becomes wasted money when people just get out because its not what they thought it was. Maybe when we advance technology and actually start doing more with space that requires more manpower. Until then, just seems like a waste to me when you already have people and bases trained to deal with this in the Air Force. Thats how I feel, at least...

Part of establishing superiority is getting to it first, as well as having the best weapons and tech and best-trained operatives. Have to beat countries like Russia and China to the punch.

So you're right... Maybe it's not necessary now, but it's best to get this ball rolling early and establish ourselves before we're scrambling to defend ourselves from some new, advanced threat

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This is one of the few things Trump has been trying to push through that I agree with and support. Air superiority wins wars, and it follows that as technology advances, space superiority will become more and more crucial to maintaining the upper hand in international conflict. I'm 100% in support of this, just hope they build the branch intelligently and don't just throw money into the program with no real plan.

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For some reason I was thinking about The Getaway this morning and I says to m'self I says "Ya know Far-Queue ol' pal o' mine? Wouldn't mind playin' a new er updated version uh dat."

Not that I'm clamoring for a sequel, but it'd pique my curiosity if something got announced. Could name dozens of games that fit into that space.

What are yours? I'd even consider games that started out great and fell off over time, like Tony Hawk (although 5 was flat-out awful) or Dead Space. As long as the last game released was mediocre-ish, what's something you'd like to see a capable developer take a crack at rejuvenating?

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Jen0125 posted...

Funny how OhhhJa was so active and now that he's been completely proven wrong he's just.. Not here anymore.

That's his schtick. He knows but its easier to just be like, "imma dip before i make myself look even more foolish than I already have"

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lol isn't that the Pizzagate guy? No wonder those Trump-supporting mouthbreathers are eating it up

^meant for the tweet, not Jen's post

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Zareth posted...

Two Worlds 2 had a crazy spell making system.
Like, shoot a lighting bolt that splits into clouds of fire that spawn skeletons that explode when they die.

Haven't played that but it sounds awesome

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BeerOnTap posted...

$47

lmao

"Corporations and wealthy get billions, and I get $47!" What's that, $600 for the year? How does that stack up at all? Is that a meaningful increase? Even if you bank it that's not even $10K for a decade.

My math sucks, and not sure if you get paid weekly or every other week, but that's laughable

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Mages of Mystralia or Lichdom Battlemage come to mind

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Dreaming about Dick, eh?

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Yes

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Color me surprised

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/789540931/2-years-later-trump-tax-cuts-have-failed-to-deliver-on-gops-promises

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This new quote system sucks dick

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command667 posted...

Far-Queue posted...
For real. I've never witnessed a shark attack but I don't think they're not a problem lol
Don't people have a higher chance of dying from a vending machine falling on you than a shark attack.
You are kinda using a terrible example.

No, it's a fine example. Shark attacks are uncommon, yes. That's the point. You said:

command667 posted...

Is white supremacy common enough to be a real problem? I have never actually met one of them.

Insinuating that white supremacy appearing to be uncommon means it's not a "real problem"

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Zangulus posted...

command667 posted...

Is white supremacy common enough to be a real problem? I have never actually met one of them.

Rofl. Its never happened in my eyesight so therefor it doesnt exist
This guy.

For real. I've never witnessed a shark attack but I don't think they're not a problem lol

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helIy posted...

So can I fuck it or not?

Don't see why not

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Still too early to tell. Dem field is still packed. Need to thin the herd and see who the true, viable candidates are, and if they can appeal to moderates they'll have a good chance of winning.

One thing is for sure, Trump's base is absolutely unshakable. He'll get a sizable chunk of the vote off his base alone, but again if he doesn't win over moderates he's dead in the water.

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I don't use the devil's lettuce but I'd never pooh-pooh someone who did.

That said, I'm against smoking or vaping. Why fuck with your lungs like that? Just do edibles. They seem safer.

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Mead posted...

Often referred to as their forcekin

lmao

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Mead posted...

I dont enjoy life

He's a gimmick poster now

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Another host on that same station is a white supremacist. MAGA2020, right?

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