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spudger posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

So basically you have no argument or capability of nuance and are instead going to shitpost emotional drivel.

ugh. dude you arent arguing anything of substance. you already said you agreed on regulations. stop admiraling my topic

I agree that there should be more in-depth background checks. But I disagree that it would make as much of a difference as you think.
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tagged TC appropriately
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So basically you have no argument or capability of nuance and are instead going to shitpost emotional drivel.
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This is terrible. Likely Russian accounts looking to further divide America on racial lines.
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Burgess posted...

Why can't white people watch it.

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Antifar posted...

While Democrats do have the power to filibuster some things with 40 votes in the Senate, I'm inclined to think they'd happily join in on a GOP effort to pass regulations on gun sales.

The Republican party found it within them to overhaul our tax system; they have yet to find the will for even a token gesture towards reducing gun violence of the sort seen in Las Vegas.

The same Democrats who are suddenly concerned with where the money will come from to fund the infrastructure spending they'd have otherwise borrowed to fund? Not that simple.

And again, let's not pretend that there's some singular piece of legislation that will make this go away. It wasn't a lack of legislation that prevented these school shootings from occurring for most of our history as a nation.
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@spudger

You gonna address post #18?
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spudger posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Antifar posted...

Republicans control congress. If they truly support background checks and "common sense regulations," they have the power to pass them into law.

I'm not holding my breath.

Right because politics is always that simple and that black and white.

lmao

it is when you have majority in congress. do some damn work republicans.

if it was that simple then literally everything the republican party wants would happen
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Balrog0 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

why do you have stupid people added on your FB, Balrog

these aren't stupid people, though

then why do they say such stupid things
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Then why do you have a car
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Time to be independent and grow up bruh. Can't rely on mommy and daddy forever.
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why do you have stupid people added on your FB, Balrog
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Antifar posted...

Republicans control congress. If they truly support background checks and "common sense regulations," they have the power to pass them into law.

I'm not holding my breath.

Right because politics is always that simple and that black and white.

lmao
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ElatedVenusaur posted...

New main theme.

damn that's amazing
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I really enjoyed the time I've spent with it so far. But it's such a massive game that I don't know when I'll even see all of the Vanilla game, let alone Utopia and now this.
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spudger posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

spudger posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I'm conservative and obviously I'm not okay with gun violence. I'm also not okay with car accidents or cars being used as weapons or homemade bombs, but I'm not going to pretend that banning things is the solution. Especially not when the 2nd amendment is a right in this country.

But why do you go to the extreme of ban? How about common sense regulations like mental health background checks?

I don't think anyone is against common sense regulations like those. What I'm seeing is that there are people, at least here, who are calling for outright bans.

We tried passing them a few years back and couldnt bc the fucking nra scumbags

Ultimately though that type of background check would exclude just the people who have been institutionalized before, right? How else would you know who is about to go off the rails because they're batshit insane?

It might cause people to not seek mental help. Similar to how California's new stance on intentional HIV infections is designed to encourage more people to get treated for HIV. (It's counter intuitive, but if you severely punish people for knowingly infecting others with HIV, high-risk candidates will not get tested because they'd rather not know that they have HIV.)
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spudger posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I'm conservative and obviously I'm not okay with gun violence. I'm also not okay with car accidents or cars being used as weapons or homemade bombs, but I'm not going to pretend that banning things is the solution. Especially not when the 2nd amendment is a right in this country.

But why do you go to the extreme of ban? How about common sense regulations like mental health background checks?

I don't think anyone is against common sense regulations like those. What I'm seeing is that there are people, at least here, who are calling for outright bans.
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DarkAmdusias posted...

Actually the vast majority of Americans across political spectrum are in favor of limiting sales of guns to people with serious mental health issues, domestic abusers, convicted felons, and the like. Gun lobbies and manufacturers however, are not, and they're the ones conservative legislators listen to, so...

That would be fair tbqh. Although we'd have to ask the question of "which rights can we limit and why"

Which we should discuss, since some people waive their access to certain rights anyway
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Note that guns have been part of American culture for basically as long as we've been a country. These school shootings are a recent development. It's demonstrably not the guns.
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no because it's too heart breaking

just saw some about one of the students who was on a very exciting and promising path to becoming a scientist, and I NOPE'd the hell outta there
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I'm conservative and obviously I'm not okay with gun violence. I'm also not okay with car accidents or cars being used as weapons or homemade bombs, but I'm not going to pretend that banning things is the solution. Especially not when the 2nd amendment is a right in this country.
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extremely spicy thai curry is my favorite food
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

am American, don't want a white supremacy.

shut the fuck up

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bang her then ghost her
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damn who is that fine creature holding the sign?
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make a phone call to some people that would make the crowd disappear
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haha wow VipaGTS wants to ban guns?
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RECON64bit posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

why do extremely far left radicals want to ban firearms

define far left radical

disturbed individuals like gunplagirl
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Nah if anything we need to ban all the leftists

Way too many of em
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DarthAragorn posted...

No because they're bullshit

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why do extremely far left radicals want to ban firearms
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bump
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We believe that with economic development and advances in human rights, including gender equality, people are better able to pursue their individual interests and in doing so more basic sex differences are more fully expressed.22 The differences in STEM are related in part to students personal and occupational interests and relative academic strengths. Sex differences in occupational interests are large, well-documented, and reflect a more basic sex difference in interest in things versus people.23 Men prefer occupations that involve working with things (e.g., engineering, mechanics) and abstract ideas (e.g., scientific theory) and women prefer working with and directly contributing to the wellbeing of others (e.g., physician, teacher). The sex difference in interest in people extends to a more general interest in living things, which would explain why women who are interested in science are much more likely to pursue a career in biology or veterinary medicine than computer science.24
Programs designed to steer women into inorganic STEM fields would in effect steer these same women away from the life sciences. Such programs would, in our opinion, only be justifiable if women are not provided a fair opportunity to pursue inorganic STEM fields (for which there is no good evidence). The main argument from gender activists is that inorganic STEM fields are a better choice for women either because these jobs lead to higher incomes or that there is a labor market demand for them. Both arguments are fundamentally capitalist and dehumanizing in the sense that considerations of personal interest are overridden by considerations of societal demand. This is ironic, given that the agenda arguing for more women in STEM seems most popular among left-leaning people.

In any event, on top of differences in career preferences, there are important and largely overlooked sex differences in relative strengths in reading, mathematics, and science.25 Students who are relatively better in reading-related areas (e.g., literature) than they are in science or mathematics, independent of their absolute level of performance are more likely to pursue college degrees in the humanities and enter non-science occupations. The reverse is true for students who are relatively better in science and mathematics than literature.26 This is where the results from Finland and elsewhere make sense. Although Finnish girls perform as well or better than Finnish boys in science, the gap is even larger in reading. The result is that more Finnish girls have relative advantages in reading than science. Most adolescent boys in contrast are relatively better at science or mathematics than reading, independent of their absolute level of performance. Individuals with this academic profile are likely to enter STEM areas, either as research scientists or technicians, and there are more boys than girls with this pattern throughout the world.25

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http://quillette.com/2018/02/15/sex-stem-stubborn-facts-stubborn-ideologies/

Fascinating read. Some tidbits:

We suspect that concepts like stereotype threat, implicit bias, and microaggression have gained traction because they fit the inequalities-equals-oppression narrative.17 In many cases, explicit oppression is hard to find in classrooms and the workplace and, thus, the resort to explanations from unconscious bias and fleeting behaviors (microaggressions) that continually assault and undermine the victim. In this case, the victims are girls and womens aspirations towards and performance in certain STEM fields, especially engineering, computer science, and the physical sciences. The logical response to this narrative is the development of interventions to reduce stereotype threat, implicit bias, and microaggressions. But, what if these factors have much smaller effects on girls and women than proponents argue? The associated time and resources devoted to addressing these problems will have little or no long-term effect on girls interest in or womens participation in inorganic STEM fields.

If not implicit and subtle oppression, then whats really going on?

Weve recently found that countries renowned for gender equality show some of the largest sex differences in interest in and pursuit of STEM degrees, which is not only inconsistent with an oppression narrative, it is positive evidence against it.18 Consider that Finland excels in gender equality, its adolescent girls outperform boys in science, and it ranks near the top in European educational performance.19 With these high levels of educational performance and overall gender equality, Finland is poised to close the sex differences gap in STEM. Yet, Finland has one of the worlds largest sex differences in college degrees in STEM fields. Norway and Sweden, also leading in gender equality rankings, are not far behind. This is only the tip of the iceberg, as this general pattern of increasing sex differences with national increases in gender equality is found throughout the world.20

The recent uptick in interest in concepts such as stereotype threat, implicit bias, and microaggression may be a reaction to the low female STEM participation in highly developed nations. At one time, there were substantive social and educational impediments to womens participation in these (and other) fields, but as explicit sexism and restricted educational opportunities faded into history, the sex differences (e.g., fewer women than men physicists) attributed to them should have faded as well. Some of them have even reversed, such that more women than men attend and graduate from college and women may now have structural advantages (e.g., hiring practices) in STEM fields.21 Even with these changes, many other sex differences remain or have become larger over time. The latter are serious problems for anyone with strong beliefs about purely or largely social influences on sex differences; if the obvious social causes have been addressed, then there must be other, more subtle oppressive factors afoot. This is where stereotype threat, implicit bias, microaggression and related concepts enter the oppression narrative.

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12amMadman posted...

Lmao if you can't throw 25 meters

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is it because you put in the wrong type of fuel?
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prince_leo posted...

r4X0r posted...

Why? Do you think that random people are going to shoot you for no reason? That's called "paranoia."

I mean I can kinda get it
i'm not gonna call for banning guns, but when I spent a summer in kentucky for an internship we would go out to eat and there would always be a guy with a gun on his hip somewhere in the restaurant. it never made me feel safer
and I know logically the chance of something happening is low, but it still made me feel uncomfortable

tens of millions of people witness that on a daily basis and dont get hurt
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Rika_Furude posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Civilians dont need weapons anyway. Look at countries with gun restrictions. Not only gun crime but crime in general goes way down. This is an aspect america needs to improve on but wont.

so what are people supposed to do if theres a break in? and what about keeping governments from getting too comfortable?

American government is already comfortable

so what are people supposed to do if theres a break in? and what about keeping governments from getting too comfortable?

How do you think other countries handle it without guns and still have lower murder and crime rates?

by living in fear of increases in violence and rape?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/19/rising-at-increasing-rate-in-england-and-wales-police-figures-show
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-43066443

Fantastic news
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Rika_Furude posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Civilians dont need weapons anyway. Look at countries with gun restrictions. Not only gun crime but crime in general goes way down. This is an aspect america needs to improve on but wont.

so what are people supposed to do if theres a break in? and what about keeping governments from getting too comfortable?

American government is already comfortable

so what are people supposed to do if theres a break in? and what about keeping governments from getting too comfortable?
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Anisoptera posted...

What I hate about traveling to America is going camping and seeing a group of guys bring their assault rifles to practice shooting. Sure they don't plan on shooting everyone, but it ruins the mood when I'm having a nice swim in a river and suddenly spot a group of guys carrying assault rifles on their back.

you ever been to France? in Paris there are heavily armed military police patrolling the streets. and security queues at every major tourist attraction.
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MachoManSavage posted...

People always say there needs to be more guns so people can defend themselves.

Yet I never hear about people using guns to defend. Only kill.

I don't know. I'm Canadian. I don't understand the whole gun thing. Never seen one. Never want to see one.

Just find it funny how people buy any giant gun they want without a hitch yet psychoactive substances are such a no no.

This stuff sucks. America seems like such a scary place. I'm thankful I'm Canadian.

did you try searching online before shitposting? there are many examples

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/03/29/homeowners-son-armed-with-ar-15-kills-3-during-suspected-home-invasion/amp/
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Dark_Spiret posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

so what are people supposed to do if theres a break in? and what about keeping governments from getting too comfortable?

its alright. the government and police have your back.

the police the left is always saying are too abusive with their power?
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Rika_Furude posted...

Civilians dont need weapons anyway. Look at countries with gun restrictions. Not only gun crime but crime in general goes way down. This is an aspect america needs to improve on but wont.

so what are people supposed to do if theres a break in? and what about keeping governments from getting too comfortable?
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There are times when an AR-15 or something like it is necessary

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/03/29/homeowners-son-armed-with-ar-15-kills-3-during-suspected-home-invasion
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Keep in mind that this is from an era when most women were housewives and the man was liable to come in after a day of working in the coal mine or some shit. Expectations were different.
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I guarantee there are several CEmen here who agree with what she said.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

their missile launcher didn't work

just like everything else in communism

did you even watch the video?

yes
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