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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
02/15/18 7:19:45 PM
#102:


pres_madagascar posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I know most of CE was born after like 1996, but like there was a period between 1994 and 2004 where AR15's pretty much were banned and it just lead to people using bombs and other guns instead.

Yep. I'm 30.

Bush lifted the ban on Assault style weapons. Here we are today.


Yes here we are today with no significant raise in violent crime or gun vioence when the ban lifted and no significant drop during the ban.

Guns aren't the problem. Hell why are the all these shoots on or just coming off anti depressants? Maybe we should teach kids to be men instead of pushing mind altering drugs.

Also a pistol is just as deadly. I'm certain I could get a count just as high as this guy with a pistol instead of an AR.
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AlecSkorpio
02/15/18 7:21:13 PM
#103:


Man, the more I sit and think about it, just fucking ban them.

IIRC AR15's aren't even selling anymore. It'd do nothing but what the fuck do I care I got mine.
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DarthAragorn
02/15/18 7:21:37 PM
#104:


fenderbender321 posted...
Knives and baseball bats are also used to murder people in the US. It's not just a gun problem...it's a weapon problem. We need to ban WEAPONS.

Why don't we just ban murder
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Letron_James
02/15/18 7:22:26 PM
#105:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I know most of CE was born after like 1996, but like there was a period between 1994 and 2004 where AR15's pretty much were banned and it just lead to people using bombs and other guns instead.

Yep. I'm 30.

Bush lifted the ban on Assault style weapons. Here we are today.


Yes here we are today with no significant raise in violent crime or gun vioence when the ban lifted and no significant drop during the ban.

Guns aren't the problem. Hell why are the all these shoots on or just coming off anti depressants? Maybe we should teach kids to be men instead of pushing mind altering drugs.

Also a pistol is just as deadly. I'm certain I could get a count just as high as this guy with a pistol instead of an AR.


Imagine using the argument of you being able to kill more children with a pistol over a AR-15 as a reason to keep the gun allowed.

Figuratively and literally go fuck yourself
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Sativa_Rose
02/15/18 7:22:47 PM
#106:


AlecSkorpio posted...
Man, the more I sit and think about it, just fucking ban them.

IIRC AR15's aren't even selling anymore. It'd do nothing but what the fuck do I care I got mine.


Doesn't that mean banning all semi-automatic rifles of that caliber and up?
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Swagnificent119
02/15/18 7:24:47 PM
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Sativa_Rose
02/15/18 7:29:48 PM
#108:


Swagnificent119 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P89CBU8E6jU


The gun didn't change, we changed.


I was with him until he brought up video games that give you points for raping and killing people (apparently those exist?)
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AlecSkorpio
02/15/18 7:31:03 PM
#109:


Sativa_Rose posted...
I was with him until he brought up video games that give you points for raping and killing people (apparently those exist?)


Hey, I never heard that hooker consent in GTA
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Tropicalwood
02/15/18 7:32:36 PM
#110:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Swagnificent119 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P89CBU8E6jU


The gun didn't change, we changed.


I was with him until he brought up video games that give you points for raping and killing people (apparently those exist?)

Atari actually had games where you got points for raping women, i.e Custer's Revenge
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D-Lo_BrownTown
02/15/18 7:35:47 PM
#111:


lol I actually remember when people said they wanted rape in GTA San Andreas jfc

But yeah, he just assumes that there was rape in GTA because of the Hot Coffee thing.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
02/15/18 7:36:31 PM
#112:


Letron_James posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I know most of CE was born after like 1996, but like there was a period between 1994 and 2004 where AR15's pretty much were banned and it just lead to people using bombs and other guns instead.

Yep. I'm 30.

Bush lifted the ban on Assault style weapons. Here we are today.


Yes here we are today with no significant raise in violent crime or gun vioence when the ban lifted and no significant drop during the ban.

Guns aren't the problem. Hell why are the all these shoots on or just coming off anti depressants? Maybe we should teach kids to be men instead of pushing mind altering drugs.

Also a pistol is just as deadly. I'm certain I could get a count just as high as this guy with a pistol instead of an AR.


Imagine using the argument of you being able to kill more children with a pistol over a AR-15 as a reason to keep the gun allowed.

Figuratively and literally go fuck yourself


Imagine using a few deaths by an AR 15 as an argument that it's the preeminent killing machine on the planet specifically designed to kill kids and not expect to get told that a pistol would be just as effective.
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Link HT
02/15/18 7:45:48 PM
#113:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Imagine using a few deaths by an AR 15 as an argument that it's the preeminent killing machine on the planet specifically designed to kill kids and not expect to get told that a pistol would be just as effective.

can't shoot dozens of people from a window with a pistol. Well, not effectively anyway.
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DifferentialEquation
02/15/18 7:46:01 PM
#114:


Letron_James posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I know most of CE was born after like 1996, but like there was a period between 1994 and 2004 where AR15's pretty much were banned and it just lead to people using bombs and other guns instead.

Yep. I'm 30.

Bush lifted the ban on Assault style weapons. Here we are today.


Yes here we are today with no significant raise in violent crime or gun vioence when the ban lifted and no significant drop during the ban.

Guns aren't the problem. Hell why are the all these shoots on or just coming off anti depressants? Maybe we should teach kids to be men instead of pushing mind altering drugs.

Also a pistol is just as deadly. I'm certain I could get a count just as high as this guy with a pistol instead of an AR.


Imagine using the argument of you being able to kill more children with a pistol over a AR-15 as a reason to keep the gun allowed.

Figuratively and literally go fuck yourself


What kind of response is that? Will you explain why you think he's wrong based on things like that ballistic capabilities of each weapon, or do you intend to just let your emotions take over?
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DifferentialEquation
02/15/18 7:47:42 PM
#115:


Link HT posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Imagine using a few deaths by an AR 15 as an argument that it's the preeminent killing machine on the planet specifically designed to kill kids and not expect to get told that a pistol would be just as effective.

can't shoot dozens of people from a window with a pistol. Well, not effectively anyway.


Was that a reference to the Vegas shooting?
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
02/15/18 7:47:42 PM
#116:


Link HT posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Imagine using a few deaths by an AR 15 as an argument that it's the preeminent killing machine on the planet specifically designed to kill kids and not expect to get told that a pistol would be just as effective.

can't shoot dozens of people from a window with a pistol. Well, not effectively anyway.


No but walking through a school is just as easy if not easier.

Pistols make up the majority of gun deaths in the country.

The attack on the AR is because it's been used in recent shootings and looks scary so they attack that as step 1.
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Letron_James
02/15/18 9:04:39 PM
#117:


DifferentialEquation posted...
Letron_James posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I know most of CE was born after like 1996, but like there was a period between 1994 and 2004 where AR15's pretty much were banned and it just lead to people using bombs and other guns instead.

Yep. I'm 30.

Bush lifted the ban on Assault style weapons. Here we are today.


Yes here we are today with no significant raise in violent crime or gun vioence when the ban lifted and no significant drop during the ban.

Guns aren't the problem. Hell why are the all these shoots on or just coming off anti depressants? Maybe we should teach kids to be men instead of pushing mind altering drugs.

Also a pistol is just as deadly. I'm certain I could get a count just as high as this guy with a pistol instead of an AR.


Imagine using the argument of you being able to kill more children with a pistol over a AR-15 as a reason to keep the gun allowed.

Figuratively and literally go fuck yourself


What kind of response is that? Will you explain why you think he's wrong based on things like that ballistic capabilities of each weapon, or do you intend to just let your emotions take over?


Hes wrong because the issue has always been the high capacity of ammunition weapons like aR15s can hold, or be modded into holding. In addition to it being more accurate at mid and far ranges, the better question is besides eye candy what practice use does an ar15 or similarly spec'd weapon hold to non military/police personele? And the only response any gun fanatic has to that is either "hurr durr we wanna protect ourselves against a tyrannical government" or them basing the right off of an amendment that was written when Muskets were the most advanced form of easily accessible firearms. Using his same stupid argument you can say i can make a makeshift bomb out of commonly sold store items and do more damage than an ar 15. Or i can ram a truck etc, its a stupid argument because cars and chemicals have actual uses as opposed to weapons like AR15s which have none besides coddling the rights constant fear of everything.

Its not an emotionally based rant. I just hold gun fanatics in the same boat as flat earthers. Grow up and welcome yourself to the 21st century, where countries that have stricter gun laws are inherently more safe than ones who don't. Pistols and shotguns etc at least have more difficulty to aim or conceal, move, reload, i don't care if you own a shotgun for protection at home, or go through the hoops to get a handgun and walk around town like you have a 12 inch dick. There's no logical reason to have an arsenal of weapons at home that do anything other than protect yourself. Start at banning all the unnecessary shit and then actually implement proper gun purchasing procedures like Japan does.
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Swagnificent119
02/15/18 9:06:59 PM
#118:


Letron_James posted...
Pistols and shotguns etc at least have more difficulty to aim or conceal,


...wat?
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darkjedilink
02/15/18 9:07:23 PM
#119:


Letron_James posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Letron_James posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I know most of CE was born after like 1996, but like there was a period between 1994 and 2004 where AR15's pretty much were banned and it just lead to people using bombs and other guns instead.

Yep. I'm 30.

Bush lifted the ban on Assault style weapons. Here we are today.


Yes here we are today with no significant raise in violent crime or gun vioence when the ban lifted and no significant drop during the ban.

Guns aren't the problem. Hell why are the all these shoots on or just coming off anti depressants? Maybe we should teach kids to be men instead of pushing mind altering drugs.

Also a pistol is just as deadly. I'm certain I could get a count just as high as this guy with a pistol instead of an AR.


Imagine using the argument of you being able to kill more children with a pistol over a AR-15 as a reason to keep the gun allowed.

Figuratively and literally go fuck yourself


What kind of response is that? Will you explain why you think he's wrong based on things like that ballistic capabilities of each weapon, or do you intend to just let your emotions take over?


Hes wrong because the issue has always been the high capacity of ammunition weapons like aR15s can hold, or be modded into holding. In addition to it being more accurate at mid and far ranges, the better question is besides eye candy what practice use does an ar15 or similarly spec'd weapon hold to non military/police personele? And the only response any gun fanatic has to that is either "hurr durr we wanna protect ourselves against a tyrannical government" or them basing the right off of an amendment that was written when Muskets were the most advanced form of easily accessible firearms. Using his same stupid argument you can say i can make a makeshift bomb out of commonly sold store items and do more damage than an ar 15. Or i can ram a truck etc, its a stupid argument because cars and chemicals have actual uses as opposed to weapons like AR15s which have none besides coddling the rights constant fear of everything.

Its not an emotionally based rant. I just hold gun fanatics in the same boat as flat earthers. Grow up and welcome yourself to the 21st century, where countries that have stricter gun laws are inherently more safe than ones who don't. Pistols and shotguns etc at least have more difficulty to aim or conceal, move, reload, i don't care if you own a shotgun for protection at home, or go through the hoops to get a handgun and walk around town like you have a 12 inch dick. There's no logical reason to have an arsenal of weapons at home that do anything other than protect yourself. Start at banning all the unnecessary shit and then actually implement proper gun purchasing procedures like Japan does.

Pistols are harder to aim and conceal than an AR15?

Are you for real?
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AlecSkorpio
02/15/18 9:08:56 PM
#120:


I'd argue even many shotguns are easier to aim and conceal than an AR15 honestly.
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DifferentialEquation
02/15/18 9:13:58 PM
#121:


Letron_James posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Letron_James posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I know most of CE was born after like 1996, but like there was a period between 1994 and 2004 where AR15's pretty much were banned and it just lead to people using bombs and other guns instead.

Yep. I'm 30.

Bush lifted the ban on Assault style weapons. Here we are today.


Yes here we are today with no significant raise in violent crime or gun vioence when the ban lifted and no significant drop during the ban.

Guns aren't the problem. Hell why are the all these shoots on or just coming off anti depressants? Maybe we should teach kids to be men instead of pushing mind altering drugs.

Also a pistol is just as deadly. I'm certain I could get a count just as high as this guy with a pistol instead of an AR.


Imagine using the argument of you being able to kill more children with a pistol over a AR-15 as a reason to keep the gun allowed.

Figuratively and literally go fuck yourself


What kind of response is that? Will you explain why you think he's wrong based on things like that ballistic capabilities of each weapon, or do you intend to just let your emotions take over?


Hes wrong because the issue has always been the high capacity of ammunition weapons like aR15s can hold, or be modded into holding. In addition to it being more accurate at mid and far ranges, the better question is besides eye candy what practice use does an ar15 or similarly spec'd weapon hold to non military/police personele? And the only response any gun fanatic has to that is either "hurr durr we wanna protect ourselves against a tyrannical government" or them basing the right off of an amendment that was written when Muskets were the most advanced form of easily accessible firearms. Using his same stupid argument you can say i can make a makeshift bomb out of commonly sold store items and do more damage than an ar 15. Or i can ram a truck etc, its a stupid argument because cars and chemicals have actual uses as opposed to weapons like AR15s which have none besides coddling the rights constant fear of everything.

Its not an emotionally based rant. I just hold gun fanatics in the same boat as flat earthers. Grow up and welcome yourself to the 21st century, where countries that have stricter gun laws are inherently more safe than ones who don't. Pistols and shotguns etc at least have more difficulty to aim or conceal, move, reload, i don't care if you own a shotgun for protection at home, or go through the hoops to get a handgun and walk around town like you have a 12 inch dick. There's no logical reason to have an arsenal of weapons at home that do anything other than protect yourself. Start at banning all the unnecessary shit and then actually implement proper gun purchasing procedures like Japan does.


It's not, though. Do you really think a school shooting would turn out much differently if someone had a 9mm with handgun with some 15-round magazines vs an AR-15 with some 30-round magazines?
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FLUFFYGERM
02/15/18 9:17:06 PM
#122:


why do extremely far left radicals want to ban firearms
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APM
02/15/18 9:18:47 PM
#123:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
why do extremely far left radicals want to ban firearms

Because all communist governments did. Like Stalin and Mao
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RECON64bit
02/15/18 9:19:38 PM
#124:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
why do extremely far left radicals want to ban firearms

define far left radical
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FLUFFYGERM
02/15/18 9:20:19 PM
#125:


RECON64bit posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
why do extremely far left radicals want to ban firearms

define far left radical


disturbed individuals like gunplagirl
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Tyranthraxus
02/15/18 10:11:24 PM
#126:


Tropicalwood posted...
Atari actually had games where you got points for raping women, i.e Custer's Revenge

Atari didn't license software for that console. It was an open platform. Literally anyone could make a game for that system without Atari's consent and Atari sued the developers of that game.

One of the reasons the NES was as well received as it was, was because Nintendo curated the games. You had to get approval from Nintendo to make a game for the NES and they didn't allow anything offensive like Custer's Revenge or anything that was just general shit like the Atari version of Pac-Man.
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