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Except it isn't? Sith usually want to go for power grabs. Kylo gives the impression that he just wants to burn everything prophecy-related to the ground
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I mean he has no reason to try and maintain whatever the hell Snoke was going for with the Order (it was literally just a retread of the Empire sprung up by guys who really missed the Empire after it died). All Kylo wants to do at this point is kill every last thing that might suggest the Force telling him what to do. I guess he could use the Order's troops for that
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I didn't care about Kylo in the first movie, but I'm a solid fan of Kylo Ren: The Universe's Butt Monkey. He's what would have happened if instead of Anakin being super special awesome at everything, he was just kind of okay at everything yet still had the same expectations shoved upon him
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Also no girls doing things useful, haven't you heard of cooties
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The character you made would be your online avatar if you played online (which you won't, I'm pretty sure that died like a month after release)
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I took that as more "Oh so this is what it's like to do something incredibly stupid for a good cause, I understand you now"
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MGS4 is the last game chronologically (not counting Revengeance) so it has little to do with anything going on here
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New route: Hit on Erica and damn the consequences
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Why would Snoke notice a lightsaber shuffling around next to him? He was quite busy staring at a premonition of Two Seconds Hence while evilly gloating
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Frankly I love it to pieces just for all of the debate it's raised about Kylo as a character. And I couldn't have given less of a fuck about Kylo in TFA, but with the stuff they did here he's suddenly pretty deep
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Given how the Sith usually play things, Snoke was probably keeping his head down and waiting for Palpatine to die so he could go "Hay guyz I'm Emperor now lol"
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Really the "Empire" as it stands now is in a sorry state. Not as bad as the Rebels maybe, but they just lost their competent scary leader guy and replaced him with a psycho kid and his sniveling lieutenant whose only loyalty is whether or not he thinks he can off Kylo without being strangled
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Of all things, that is the very last complaint I'd ever have about this movie. It took every trope that this Star Wars-verse plotline was supposed to follow and hit it with a hammer
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He didn't kill Leia either when all he had to do was shoot, so it's not like his motivation rested entirely on trying to get laid
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That has less to do with Rey and more to do with Snoke forcing a situation where he was yelling at Kylo to FULFILL YOUR DESTINY DAMMIT like five minutes after calling him an idiot who could never live up to Vader
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(Also it's super funny that Snoke apparently got that prophecy entirely right, even if he was fatally misinterpreting it. So by chopping off the face of "YOUR DESTINY", Kylo was playing right into destiny)
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Kylo didn't even kill Snoke because "OMG I'm light side and good again", he killed him because Snoke was the embodiment of every bit of prophecy related bullshit he hated. Like Snoke said right before he ate it, that made him Kylo's real enemy
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I don't think Luke even said "Wow this guy is powerful" when he was going to kill him. It was more "Wow this guy is so full of Dark Side I am freaked the hell out and it's making my pupils go funny"
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I mean she was literally about to die and was only saved because Snoke didn't think his whole "Piss off the apprentice and make him super special awesome on Darkness rage" plan through. Not sure how this translates into yet another Rey as Mary Sue argument...
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I think you're missing the point of Kylo's whole character arc, that he's *supposed* to be the big hero of prophecy whether it's for Light or Dark, but he's not good enough for either. He was too angsty for the Jedi, he couldn't live up to Snoke's standards for evil. Poor dude keeps getting shoved into one side or another's cosmic wish fulfillment and all it's done is make him more and more mad that the universe doesn't work like everyone keeps telling him it does. He is a walking subversion of the whole idea of a Chosen One
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Granted, Kylo is very good at stabbing people when they aren't expecting it. He's even killed off two major characters this way
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You don't need much training to beat Kylo. His superpower is "I'm pretty bad at this"
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Also physically being there probably would have gotten him killed via 6 Walkers opening fire on him. That wouldn't have bought very much time
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Assuming Kylo doesn't know what's really going on with Luke, I imagine it buys everyone even more time while he throws an inevitable tantrum and tries to go burn Ach-To to ashes
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I'm curious how they're going to reconcile all of these characters who show up at Blackwell in Before the Storm and then obviously aren't around for Life is Strange proper

I'll miss you, Steph. You're neat
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I want Luke to follow Kylo around everywhere like Force Jacob Marley

"Oooooh I'm a ghooooooost!"

"Go away Luke I'm trying to get dressed!"
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I liked Kylo randomly trying to do the Vader long distance Force Choke to Rey and absolutely nothing happened. 'Whoops'
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So just how far was Luke transmitting to be sitting on Ahch-To and farting around on Crait?
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I have no idea how far Luke was actually supposed to be projecting to do that from Ahch-To to Crait, but it had to have been fairly ridiculous
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Killing Snoke midway was brilliant in the sense of how it leaves Kylo with no damn purpose at all except to murder every bit of "FULFILL YOUR DESTINY" bullshit he can find. I kind of expect him to pull a Darth Nihilus and try to kill the Force in general. Seems like the logical step
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I mean Yoda just showed him how easy it is to blow shit up while you are dead, so I assume he took that as a lightbulb moment
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Before the Storm is very good
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Nakamura has mastered the art of turning it on for big time matches and phoning it in when they're doing nothing important with him (ie 90% of the time, it's WWE)
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No one actually knows who Dobbu Scay is, haha. There are guesses he was the guy trying to feed BB-8 coins
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Well I mean, he seemed to pull a new vision out of his ass once he ganked Snoke. Up until then he was trying really hard to be Vader, then Snoke pretty much laughed at him and went "No you suck, just like you sucked when you were playing Light Side route". That's when he went all Nihilism Yay
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Kylo went from "Trying really hard to be the New Vader" to "Broke his Vader suit in a fit, killed the Emperor a movie too early, took over the Empire with new lackey Admiral Starscream" in the span of a movie. That's a wee bit of character movement
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The only way for Kylo to "win" thematically is to pull a Luke and go live on an island for the rest of his life, rejecting every last bit of prophecy the universe sees fit to throw at him (because it's clear that he can't live up to any of it). He will most likely not because he can't stop throwing temper tantrums
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It was just "Battering ram cannon!" "A what?" "Death Star tech, we're boned"
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Also Kylo managed to somehow not do many things overly evil in this movie...mainly because it's become a plot point that he's an abject failure at anything he tries. He was supposed to be the hope of the Jedi, he fails. He was supposed to be the new Vader, he fails. He decides he wants to say screw it and embrace nihilism, but he's too nice to kill Leia or Rey (and Luke makes him look stupid), he fails
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I'm pretty sure Luke was using Yoda lines during the Rey stuff, but he was also making fun of her with them
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It was really funny how everyone seemed to have Force Precog and no one could use it properly. "I'm totally going to turn you evil!" "No, I'm going to turn you good!" "No, he's going to blargh I'm dead"
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In a lot of ways this movie should be commended just for the way it turned what everyone was expecting on its head (especially fucking with the old Emperor/Vader scene the way it did), but nerds gonna nerd
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A lot of it seems to be some incredibly wheezy nerd crying. "Well it didn't go where I had predicted it would go storywise so it suuuuuuuucks"
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They're just taking that awkward Luke/Leia thing and running to the endzone with it
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