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He already made it clear he wasn't just ordinary miller last night though, you were still on him then. He didn't really elaborate on much now.

And it's not necessarily risky either, scum can have roles that could just as well be town. Last role madness game Chris gave them a safelist of roles he promised were not in the game and some of them were easy to fake with the abilities scum had.

I was more wary of Kirby because he seemed to try to reach the conclusion that you were both town, as I just said he explained what needed to happen for him to believe you, but I'm not liking how easy you flipped on him either.

Kirby321 posted...

Technically a Miller without powers is just a "Miller", not a "Miller Vanilla".

Really, it was just kinda fluff to see how Lea would respond in turn. Had she been lying, I would've found her claim inconsistent with the actual details of my role, not simply how I described it.

Sure, but a Miller Cop is still miller and not just essentially miller. Also you basically explained to Lea what she had to say for you to believe her.

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Wait so you initially counterclaimed him just for the miller part, but now you're humoring having the exact same role both of you?

It sounds like your answer is that you are miller and something else. But why would you describe that as being "effectively miller" when it's exactly that?

But I'm not even asking you to state any new information! I'm just asking you to explain what you meant by what you've already said.

So you do not want to answer to this?

ctesjbuvf posted...

What does this even mean. You're saying your role is not named miller but it works the same? Or are you saying you are not only miller, like how Lea in the aforementioned game was Miller Backup?

I'm not asking what your quirks are.

Sultan tends to resolve himself every game somehow. Even when he's finally vanilla, scum decides to confirm him town by giving him a gun lol.

At least I'm not gonna look very much into opening posts because they're always somewhat awkward and forced regardless of what alignment makes them.

I agree with that ranking at least.

While you answer Death's question, I also want to ask

Kirby321 posted...

My role is effectively a Miller but not exactly a conventional one.

Kirby321 posted...

I am effectively a Miller, but with a small quirk that has nothing to do with my item. Nonetheless, I will scan guilty to scanning roles. This is my claim and I am not retracting it.

What does this even mean. You're saying your role is not named miller but it works the same? Or are you saying you are not only miller, like how Lea in the aforementioned game was Miller Backup?

On to something slightly more serious.

Lopen posted...

This exchange is also condemning to me. Someone putting this amount of thought into it should remember clearly how the claim benefitted town and why.

I agree, but this point is true whether Kirby is truthful or not, so I do think Kirby simply got the games and details mixed up.

Also

Lopen posted...

I have a night 0 ability where I can make it so only scum players can talk for the first hour of game

Checkmate

Uh oh Lopen, seems like you slipped and posted four seconds too early yourself!

I am highly skeptical of both Kirby and Lea having claimed miller. And I know Kirby said he's only effectively miller, but it's still the same to a cop. Might be role madness and all but still. My first thought was that Kirby would be the one lying. I just don't find it likely that scum would counterclaim anything that few posts into the game. Lea doing that aforementioned untargetable claim actually stopped a scum that game from claiming miller out the gate and that wasn't even the same role. Like, that also wasn't a role madness game but still you generally don't want to risk something like that. Even though claiming miller right away as scum also seems bold I find it to be a lot more likely move for scum. Really struggle to see both Kirby and Lea as town at least.

Works for me.

I thought that mostly because I knew it'd come lol

Or mine!

SirChris posted...

Our drama is almost always very mild to what I see going on or talked about in other communities. Turns out playing a game where you accuse people of lying in order to win causes issues.

Sure but right now we aren't playing a game and one is ready with a complete list of participants. I appreciate us being better than other sites but we can be better than this.

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You'd think on a site where I was the youngest person when I came here forever ago and probably still is the youngest person here that we'd have less drama than this.

I'd play this, but I don't want to spend money on it right now, especially with the many games coming out later this year that I want to get on release. If it becomes available through PS+ or there's a sale at some point, I'd enjoy playing through it again. Seems like the Platinum is easy like Part II and unlike the original.

I actually played some tonight. I attempted the final bosses initially but lost to Ansem the second time you fight him with only Sora. Then I decided to set out to get Aero upgraded which includes finding all the dalmatians, so I began looking for those which will also allow me to get some levels.

I also attempted the Hades cup. Lost against a boss because I was impatient but this one has checkpoints it seems so maybe I'll come back once I'm done getting Aeroga.

It's a good thing purge rates aren't what the used to be.

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@Lopen

I know nothing about it either lol.

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Kirby poor and undeserves trend of being alive the whole game but losing continues! I'm sorry buddy. Happy about your compliments this game btw!

I think I played decent enough, couldn't be that much around day 1. But I was spot on on Ben. The most annoying thing (this messy endgame as spectator aside) was not getting to post at the end of day 2 before Ulti hammered himself. I thought Ulti was town after Corrik's stunt and Ben made some mistakes in his claim. Wouldn't ever get to post again lol.

I thought plum and IGCD were the other two when that day ended. Mostly through poe. Went well.

6

Good stuff so far, they followed the established story very closely.

Yeah yeah at some point

I was so surprised to see Casemiro going there.

7

The Talos Principle gets an 8

It's too late now, yeah.

Might as well get it down.

##vote: Ben

That should be -2.

I don't get this IGCD play at all, regardless of alignment. He also made some terrible play last game but that was after he was more or less confirmed scum. I don't know.

I think Ben is the right lynch, despite my hesitation at the end of yesterday after initially voting him. Having thought more about it, it's probably not the town tell I was making it to be, Ben probably thought more people noticed what he did.

I was leaning scum on Ulti (certain when I thought there was a scan), but his reaction while everyone thought scum doesn't look bad now imo. While I don't know scum Ulti, but it was very good play if he is scum.

When Corrik said Ulti wasn't his scan at the beginning of the day, my best bet was indeed that he was the scan because he called me 100% town earlier.

Well would you look at that.

Also, I didn't question Chris' skills I'm the slightest. You don't have to explain anything lol.

Yeah.

I suspected IGCD a bit for play like that last game and people told me he played like usual.

Man, Chris gets asked who has improved a lot, answers casually saying IGCD is good when he's not afking and that Sultan is better than people give him credit for, and it's constantly brought up as if they won some great award.

The respect Chris has is insane lol.

No way is counter claim not the correct option here if there is one. There's a doctor in one of the setups, in the other you have just as good a chance finding scum as townclearing scum, so you might as well bust one scum here.

If Corrik is lying as town, that's anti-town as hell and should not be considered.

I mean there's absolutely no point in ending the day earlier than the 24 hour point at the earliest. If a town cop that is not Corrik exists, then they will have spolen way before then for sure.

I already asked Ulti about Ben, Corrik, and he gave a reply.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Kill Corrik tomorrow when I flip town vanilla. Thats an easy one. The other scum is most likely Sultan. No one else is actually pinging at the moment.

Do you think there are just two? What made you change your mind on Ben?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

This really doesn't sit well with me Isquen has played a decent amount now.

Experience =/= ability to lead.

Like, I'm not saying there can't be a role to mess with the scans, is that what you thought I said? Just that if you get a scan back as MAFIA or GUILTY or whatever, then you know it's not town for sure, so I think a cop would've said it if they got that.

What? I'm saying if the scan is guilty it's guaranteed to be true. Obviously that's not the case if it's innocent.

Corrik7 posted...

Why does it have to be guaranteed scum tho, Ctes? I come from an angle of knowing you are absolutely town. So, explain your thought to me though.

BCT advertised the game as having doctor, cop and godfather. Then said it was simplified further and that no roles were added. That means no role exists in the game that could make a guilty scan incorrect.

That question before was mostly for you, Corrik.

If they had a guilty scan they'd have said so by now. That's guaranteed scum in this setup.

Do you still believe the best play is to have the cop claim?