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Obellisk posted...

the killing of peaf who was very adamant about lynching a person and not no lynch. and that person being isquen is likely a frame job to make isquen look bad.

I honestly think Peaf dying is a nultell in regards to Isquen. I seriously doubt they considered framing Isquen of all people, with all due respect. If they wanted to that (and again, seriously doubt), might as well just let Peaf be alive. I also doubt a scumteam with Isquen on it would use their kill to kill someone who simiply suspected him the most on day 1. So yeah, says nothing about Isquen is what I would believe.

Most likely a combination of the two things, tbh. And if they lucked out, Peaf was a powerrole himself. They could've shot someone like Corrik, yeah, but given how he went about yesterday, they were unlikely to hit the cop there.

But yeah, I think the logical conclusion is trying to hit the same target as cop.

It's probably not worth looking too much into the shot, unfortunately. I mean, I could ISO Peaf, but if there's something there, I'm not sure it wouldn't just be a red herring. I think the best bet is either than they wanted to avoided protection, but probably mostly that they wanted to shoot a likely cop target. I don't think there's much more to it.

Would scum Ulti try to point the cop to some obvious targets and then shoot one of them? It's not the worst idea when we no lynched for the full purpose of an extra scan.

Snake

I agree there's no way we're getting day 2 in four hours.

pjbasis posted...

best day 1?

Definitely not.

It is whack, but Ulti always does that. He just sounds very confident always, so when he changed his mind it can seem really drastic.

Kirby321 posted...

Ctes, I'm not really seeing Ben as town so far. Could you elaborate on your perspective?

I simply realized why he called IGCD town and I don't see why a scum Ben would point that out. It's not enough for me to think he's town but it's enough for me to reconsider.

That's fair.

Hey Peaf, did I really convince you there was no argument in those Isquen points that easily? I mean, I stand by what I said, but it's coming on top of a game where I was very wrong about him despite thinking he played similar to SW&P.

A few games back you were really certain he was scum, how is he playing differently from that now?

That was an unnecessarily condescending post, IGCD >_>

PunishedBen posted...

Has anyone stated that this game?

Something along those lines yeah, I'd look, but not on phone.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Totally fair. Who do you think the scum are?

Ben was my best bet before I realized what he was talking about. Now I'm not feeling strongly about anyone.

Sbell, when you get here, can you remind me what made you feel good about Ulti?

No one has to believe it no, but it shifts focus and might prevent discussion, especially by less confident players. For yourself too. Last time Hb I think tried to talk about Death and you straight up didn't listen to his points because you had made the decision at that point removing mafia from possible focus. I am not saying it loses the game, just that I don't like it.

The issue is not thinking people are town regardless of certainty. The issue is things like stating "I will not allow this" when someone makes a point about someone you think is town because it might prevent other people from discovering something you were unable too. That's the concern, not you being wrong in itself

But sure, my concern on the point doesn't feel genuine despite bringing it up first and trying to make the same point last game.

##unvote

I'm not sure about it but I struggle to see Ben doing this as scum.

Ah wait, I think I get where Ben coming from.

I know he said the town clear was serious, I still thought mentioning red was a reference.

Was bringing up red not a reference to last game?

The Pokemon fanbase is unfortunately in general pretty awful and tends to make their opinions based on bandwagons.

Oh and don't worry about it, Peaf.

Also not saying you can't be right about Isquen, just that some of those things were in his towngame last time.

Corrik7 posted...

There is no intuition to go off of day 1. It's manufactured content to try and get someone to eventually claim and roll over when they flub it. With no claims to force, even that is gone.

There is, the problem is that most of us just aren't that good at it. You can totally count me in that bunch too, but I prefer to give it a try before going to no lynch because day 1s can be quite useful to go back to when we've seen flips.

PunishedBen posted...

Ctes does seem to get genuinely frustrated every time me and Ulti start calling people town. I'd say Ulti is confirmed town if Ctes is scum

Also I only pointed this out once I think, pretty calmly too. I was directed at Ulti mostly but also SBell a bit. Calling people likely town is not the issue, it's using it to PoE and being certain that scum is among the remaining. Ulti's not exactly right that he was one of the ones to steer town in the right direction in that game imo, several mafia weren't looked at because of hard confident townclears by prominent players and they only ended up losing because Corrik and Hb caught them.

Alright, time to play. I just read everything again.

Ben looks the worst to me atm. He and Kirby both began by referring to previous games, Kirby got called out for it, Ben never did. Ben also keeps insisting it's no joke and refers back to it when asked questions despite there obviously being no way to townclear ICGD before IGCD had made a post yet. Ben usually makes does some weird stuff right away, but calling out Kirby for doing something similar seems really off to me despite him backing down from it later.

##Vote: Ben

For now.

Both SBell and IGCD seem more active than last game when they were scum, but rolling scum right after having been it is probably the best time to do it. I thought IGCD calling someone out for not reading the opening post properly was pretty bad and he was also called out on it. I doubt Peaf and IGCD are both scum then or he wouldn't think it'd be Peace for short, I think.

I was initially quite wary of Peaf. Calling someone out for inactivity like 12 hours into the day (where they slept 8 of them) without even considering what they actually said is such a cheap way to try to generate content, especially on newer players. Several people had done just about nothing at that point. I've liked him better later though.

I disagree about the Isquen points though. Last game I spent two full days being against him for similar reasons and I was wrong. Maybe that puts me off here, but Isquen definitely cared about how he looked that game and also made some points that made no sense to me, turned out it wasn't a scum tell.

I am not against no lynch since it doesn't cost us a day, but I don't think it should be a priority, instead something we do if we fail to have a clear target before it's too late. The point of playing simple mafia was playing by intuition instead of using roles to solve the game only.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Where is the scum if I'm wrong?

I'm not saying you have to be wrong and its fine to express thoughts, just that I think it's something to be careful with. Last game several town people were calling Death confirmed town and if Corrik doesn't scan him guilty that could have put town a huge disadvantage since it meant a lot of people were mindf***ed into not looking at him.

So given it now has to be either cop + doctor and three scum or cop and two scum one being godfather that means scum are aware of the exact setup atm and if there a doctor would be too if there is one. Rest/all of town does now. Hm.

Given how much of setup we have been told, I am not for the cop just claiming atm.

I dislike townclearing half the game, more even, within the first topic. I know Corrik had am insanely good read of day 1 last game, but it's almost never right.

Yeah definitely don't claim for no reason

I agree that it's not worth thinking too much about, just that we shouldn't necessarily think those are the possible featured roles.

He said it was simplified even further and at least one role was removed entirely. Could have replaced something as well.

Votong oneself isn't exactly a scumtell though it's anti town if he's actually town. Idk, the votes on Kirby seemed to me like a slighty forced attack on whoever was the first person to say something that could be attacked, which is just always what needs to get the ball rolling.

Obellisk posted...

Ben is town.

We can't have SBEN if only half of us are town.

there are 2 scum in the rest of the 8 of you. well technically 6 of you. I've deemed igcd and ulti town already.

So if Kirby isn't scum, then look ma, it's already down to a pool of 5.

Yeah see, townclearing serveral players within less than 2 pages doesn't usually sit well me and it often happens. A few people giving each other confidence based on very little and we end up only looking at the most uncertain players.

Peace___Frog posted...

Ctes, we're on page 2 now and have had someone get more than halfway to the votes needed for a lynch. Surely you can give us more than whatever your single post was. Even corrik, notoriously slim with his words, has given us more to work with after twelve hours.

Well nothing has really bugged me so far, but I probably wont get my head fully into this before I'm done working for today.

I don't feel very comfortable going by page 1 posts, no jokes is definitely not a rule that I have ever seen followed very much.

That latest Kirby post sure seems like the Kirby I have seen play before, though he was never scum here. It'd be a complete shot in the dark to lynch him now on my part.

Anyway, while I appreciated the idea last time

##NoExtension

We're only 10 and giving people another day to play will just delay the most active hours probably. It's the classic not starting your assignment until deadline day.

Also, opening post is solid but lacks some rules that are nice to have. Some were given later. I'd assume we have that claiming is allowed, be nice to each other, but it'd be good to know how the extension thing works exactly. I suppose it looks like it might not matter much but still.

Oh, I thought I remembered having to beat bosses again if you lost to a later one

I think I'm at the final save point now, so last chance to do anything but beating the game. Which might honestly be a decent call because I'm pretty underleved and I think you have to beat all the bosses in one go.

Nathan Drake

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Been going through a good bit of the last part of the game. It's a bit of a drag but nothing has been an issue so far.

wallmasterz posted...

are you playing Re:CoM next or skipping straight to 2

Re: CoM is next, this was to play the new games, so it'd be a shame to skip to the other one I have actually played before.

pjbasis posted...

I was trying to unlock every character through world of light so it was pretty obvious when it wasn't beaten yet because I still hadn't unlocked Cloud! He's like literally one of the last ones you get.

IIRC he's in one of the three parts in the dark world that you can do in any order, so it doesn't have to be that late. There are four characters that are in a worse position.

So much for that preseason

Yeah, I don't enjoy the game enough to care for platinum. In particular because I only replayed it to have it in fresh memory for when I played the other games. I like trophy hunting but I don't want to do this.

What can I say, I really love Winnie the Pooh and it was really joyful and a nice change of pace. Probably wasn't as high on my first playthrough, but it's genuinely very loveable.

To be fair, I moved it up and down a bit, it could have been at the top of the second one or bottom of the top one, so I moved it up to spread worlds out more.

Hollow Bastion done. Next time it's end of the world time and I'm finally done. With the last world done, let's do a ranking.

The best:
Hollow Bastion
100 Acre Wood

Very good:
Traverse Town
Agrabah
Atlantica

Fine:
Halloween Town (atomsphere is top tier, gameplay drags it down)
Monstro
Coliseum

Meh:
Wonderland
Neverland

Trash:
Deep Jungle

I beat Riku once again mostly just spamming. Then after some cutscenes and being a Heartless, I'm in Traverse Town so I went to see the Fairy Godmother. Got Bambi and Mushu.

Yeah, I beat that game, but didn't talk to the Fairy Godmother. It sounds like she gives more than that so it might be worth it visiting her next time it's possible.

Oh, well I'm stupid for not getting it then I guess.

Inviso posted...

Primarina's great. The only thing ruinous about that line is Brionne.

This. I love Primarina.

Brionne is a contender for worst Pokemon made.

Where do you get Bambi?

Finale huh, yeah alright. Thanks!

Yeah, I finally got back to the game and Tinkerbell was a gem here. Had little trouble when summoning her.

Did they show anything about singleplayer?

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This is definitely not day 10 lol.