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voltch posted...

More drama incoming?

kinda hoping not. I saw it. honestly in my opinion it's really.... not much of anything? it's like at or even far below the level of random shit talking you'd find in any discord. one or maybe two people saying something even remotely insulting, one or two others saying matter-of-fact things that just happen to be true. and a few others not even engaging in the shit talking.

I wouldn't really hold it against anyone who is legitimately butthurt or offended about this but for me personally it didn't make me feel anything at all. like wow they talk shit in discord. so does everyone else.

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oh I actually heard about this and people were wondering if anything was going to happen or not. I guess we got our answer.

Tom Bombadil posted...

my brain keeps being like SHE'S GONNA JUMP TO NIJI before I remember this isn't wrestling

it's going to be extremely difficult for someone who was fired for leaking company secrets to get a job with any other company. especially in an industry where privacy is a massive concern. she'll probably have no choice but to go indie.

why are you running

So basically with Hololive there was a period where they just streamed whatever they wanted. Then there was a big purge where a bunch of their videos had to be removed all at once due to copyright claims. There's actually a ton of videos missing from the archives of some of the girls, and some of them got hit harder than others. This is what led to the change in policy where now they will ONLY stream something if they have explicit permission to do so.

All of the Dark Souls streams were lost during this purge, and none of them have been restored. I know offhand that Luna and Aqua both played it. I'm not sure who else without having to go look it up. You can infer from this that FromSoftware are one of the companies that has not given Hololive any permission to stream any of their games, which is also why they're unlikely to stream them in the future as well.

But yes, they did stream them in the past. You just can no longer find those streams.

voltch posted...

JP side likely has a lot more corporate networking which lets them meet people for future opportunities.
Streamers who collab with JP side have noted how packed their schedules are.
It wouldn't surprise me if a bunch of Vtubers attend meetings with potential partners alongside talents from other companies.

in addition to that, many of them also know each other since before vtubers were really a thing. there were very close niconico streamer circles who did offline meet ups and collabs with each other, and you'd be surprised at how many of them ended up working together at Hololive later on. or as Hololive talents who continued to do collabs with their friends outside of Hololive.

though this starts getting into 'forbidden knowledge' territory, it's like, if you already know, you can't just unlearn or forget or ignore what you know. for me personally I don't view them as characters at all. it's like knowing that matt damon and ben affleck are friends. I'm not going to pretend that their real lives don't have an influence over their decisions about who to work with.

likewise, I'm not going to awkwardly tiptoe around the fact that NND exists, or that these are real women with streaming careers. not actually a kitsune who wandered out of the woods and immediately sat down in front of a laptop and began engaging the internet five days a week.

on that note, on the subject of kson doing a collab with hololive: she HAS collabed with members from hololive. choco and mel that I know of. and yes, I mean recently.

I will spoiler at least that for the sake of people who are sensitive about this stuff

voltch posted...

Would make sense for the license holders and so on to want to meet talents before agreeing to certain sponsorships and so on.

yeah I think this is one of the biggest barriers toward getting people in the EN branches to collab with people outside of Hololive. there are so many complex questions that need to be answered before a cross-company collab can happen, and a lot of trust is involved. add to that, the people in the management position are extremely restricted toward how they can interact and engage with the non-company talents outside of japan. it makes those questions harder to answer, and the trust harder to form.

Some people, like Kiara, have talked about this before. The process for doing collaborations with people outside of Hololive is more cumbersome because there's a lot more red tape to go through. She frequently interacts with Pomu on twitter and does want to do a collaboration with her. I doubt they're outright banned from doing collabs with NijiEN. It just takes a while because it's more inconvenient with more paperwork, managers needing to talk to managers, etc.

Aside from that, why would two people who don't know each other just randomly decide to do a stream together? Since most of the HoloEN and NijiEN people barely know each other, there's not much reason for them to collab. The NijiJP and HoloJP members who collab all live very close to each other, likely hang out in real life, and possibly even knew each other before becoming vtubers.

whether I know them personally or not doesn't change what happened. you are honestly a very bizarre person.

making observations based on things that I've seen is unhealthy? uhhh.... okay then.

I don't think the two of them had a big falling out or anything like that. Honestly, most of the friends you ever make in your life, you will eventually drift apart from them and become less close than you once were. It could be nothing more than the two of them simply not spending time together for a little while due to scheduling reasons, and then never bothered to get back in touch the way they used to before.

On that note I do have a little bit of speculation as to what may have happened. When Miko had to take an extended break due to illness and even had a surgery, she was gone for quite a while. When she came back, she mentioned during this period there were people who reached out to her all of the time to check on her, make sure she was doing okay, etc. I never once saw her mention Pekora as being one of those people that was frequently checking on her.

For anyone who has been in that situation of being down on your luck, sick, depressed, or whatever else, you might understand what I'm getting at here. But when you have friends like Mio, Suisei, etc. who are staying by your side and showing genuine concern for you while you're unable to do all of the fun stuff you used to do together, it will make you feel a lot closer with that person. If you have someone that you used to play games with all the time, but when you get sick they never bother to check in on you because you can't do fun stuff together anymore, you might come back from the experience feeling less close to that person.

I don't know. I don't want to claim I know 100% for sure that's what happened, because I think it kinda paints Pekora in a negative light, and that's not my intention. But I did find myself thinking that could be why they drifted apart, and the timing does match. The first time Miko and Pekora encountered each other in minecraft, after Miko came back from her extended break, it was pretty clear they had not spoken to each other in a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4zbeEScEIU

hey that's a good thing it means she has hipster cred

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1
Mano Aloe
2
Sakura Miko
3
Tokino Sora
4
Houshou Marine
5
Roboco
6
Hoshimachi Suisei
7
Himemori Luna
8
Oozora Subaru
9
Tokoyami Towa
10
Tsunomaki Watame
11
Takane Lui
12
Aki Rosenthal
13
Ookami Mio
14
Hakos Baelz
15
Momosuzu Nene
16
Tsukumo Sana
17
Ninomae Ina'nis
18
Kiryu Coco
19
Nakiri Ayame
20
Uruha Rushia
21
Usada Pekora
22
IRyS
23
Watson Amelia
23
Ayunda Risu
25
Yukihana Lamy
26
Yuzuki Choco
27
Kageyama Shien
28
Yozora Mel
29
Omaru Polka
30
Pavolia Reine
31
Astel Leda
32
Murasaki Shion
33
La+ Darkness
34
Kazama Iroha
35
Amane Kanata
36
AZKi
37
Shiranui Flare
38
Arurandeisu
39
Yukoku Roberu
40
Minato Aqua
41
Moona Hoshinova
42
Hakui Koyori
42
Shirakami Fubuki
44
Shishiro Botan
45
Kureiji Ollie
45
Ouro Kronii
47
Akai Haato
48
Takanashi Kiara
49
Rikka
50
Inugami Korone
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Hanasaki Miyabi
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Airani Iofifteen
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Nekomata Okayu
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Kanade Izuru
54
Sakamata Chloe
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Anya Melfissa
57
Mori Calliope
57
Aragami Oga
59
Ceres Fauna
60
Kishido Temma
61
Kagami Kira
61
Natsuiro Matsuri
63
Gawr Gura
64
Nanashi Mumei
65
Shirogane Noel
66
Tsukishita Kaoru
67
Yakushiji Suzaku
67
Hitomi Chris
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The top 7 are all fairly close, I had a really tough time picking between Suisei and Sora when they were pitted against each other, as well as Sora and

surprise delutaya stream, 2022 is already blessed

no archive of course...

X and Y have chain fishing which is insanely good for catching shiny pokemon. might be one of the most consistent shiny hunting methods in existence and is very easy to do. but it's limited to the old rod, good rod, and super rod pokemon available in XY. and of course this doesn't help with getting shiny pokemon in BDSP. but still an interesting piece of trivia, I guess.

for fubuki's situation, she seems to be intentionally hunting at the 1/4000~ rate just for the sake of doing it. she's not even advancing through the game until she gets the shiny pokemon in each location that she wants, and after she caught the gold magikarp she said she probably isn't even going to evolve it into a gyarados.

so yeah, what she's doing is more of a self imposed challenge, and is a totally separate conversation from 'what are the best ways to get a shiny pokemon'