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TheCyborgNinja posted...

All the alleged hacking did was leak out how truly shitty the DNC is.

It is like finding out you have relatives in Latin America starting in 1945, with the first child born being named Adolf. Knowing doesn't change anything factually.

Right. But they didn't leak out how truly shitty the RNC is.

If that were leaked, it'd be at least as devastating.

Not only will changing his name to Trump not give him special privileges, if anything Trump's going to sue him for unlicensed use of his name.

wwinterj25 posted...

FourthDimension posted...

He was born in Houston

duckbear pls

Well in that case why should he be deported?

Because he's an anchor baby! Trump's side used to care a whole lot about that issue, didn't they?

Currant_Kaiser posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Hop103 posted...

You'd also have Pence as president, which is nothing short of dangerous.

Honestly what I thought the TC was going to give as his reason, though making Trump remembered as a martyr instead of a Russian puppet is a good 2nd reason to not want it.

I wanted to be a bit more original than that, yeah.

Who cares about "originality"? Mike Pence as president is an omnipresent threat to the safety and well-being of every man, woman, and child in this country who isn't a far-right religious nutjob, and the basic foundations of our country as a whole. There's a damn good reason "Mike Pence" is the immediate, no-thought-required answer to the question, "would it be a good idea to impeach/get rid of/assassinate/etc... Trump?" and it must be reminded to people as much as possible lest they forget and make the gravest mistake in the history of our country.

Hop103 posted...

You'd also have Pence as president, which is nothing short of dangerous.

Honestly what I thought the TC was going to give as his reason, though making Trump remembered as a martyr instead of a Russian puppet is a good 2nd reason to not want it.

I don't regret my first time. Barely even remember anything about it, it was not in any way some sort of special "magical experience," it just...was.
If I had gone along with my first opportunity to sleep with someone, I may have regretted it, though since I didn't I kind of regret *not* going along with it and wondering what I missed out on.

PurpIePerson posted...

Made it inside the lizard. Getting here was annoying

Did you find the metal blocks on the mountainside to smash the sentries with, or did you actually stealth your way through it?

EDIT: And yeah, the Bird beast is pitifully easy to board and is the easiest dungeon. Windblight was the hardest Ganon-blight boss for me, but I also did that dungeon 2nd and probably missed some clue about how to fight him. I think the Bird's meant to be the easy/starter dungeon.

Full Throttle posted...

In the video

Next time, actually link to a video if you're going to reference a video (-_-)

Full Throttle posted...

then he tries to BACK UP on them before someone finally stops him.

Now, normally I'd say protestors shouldn't stand in the middle of a fucking street and they deserve to get run over if they insist on standing there.

BUT...the moment this dude decided to back up so he could get another crack at hitting them, he lost any semblance of justification. Wasn't trying just to get through the artificial traffic jam anymore, he was just a psycho trying to maim people for the fun of it.

Yes, jail him.

Raphael.
He's a wise ass, and even as a kid I loved that and wanted to be like that.

I barely even remember the cartoon, but the one thing I still completely remember was the turtles fighting some sort of electronic training bot, and the other three attacking it and failing badly. Then Raphael just walks around and unplugs it. :)

Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Zeus posted...

H.H. Holmes, duh.

Sin_of_Chaos posted...

Kratos is considered a mass murderer by some. He kills but he's not considered evil.

Same goes for Trevor from GTA.

Don't get me wrong though, murder is very wrong.

Kratos kills on the battlefield (for the most part) and mostly kills monsters, Trevor illegally murders people.

Kratos murders innocents in every game, too. Right in the first one, there's a twisted sort of plot-mandatory "minigame" where you push some helpless guy in a cage up an incline while monsters periodically attack you and he begs you not to do this, all so you can sacrifice him in a fire and proceed.

Hence "for the most part"

So, as long as someone scores enough kills on the battlefield, he's not evil for occasionally going out and murdering a civilian (not as collateral damage, but specifically trying to harm said person) for shits and giggles. Got it.

Actually, not one of Kratos's civilian casualties has served no purpose (ie, he didn't do it for "shits and giggles"). Every single death was required to meet an objective of some sort which, in turn, enabled him to stop a larger threat. If not for Kratos's actions, ultimately the body count would have been far higher. It's a question of is it alright to kill one innocent person to save ten thousand innocent people, which can vary depending on whether you believe that the life of one is as important as the life of many (and therefore that the others' lives are worth less because each is counted as a fraction to the one)

Bull. He could've found another way to solve any of those puzzles if he gave half a damn to try.

Even if he *had* to use the innocent people to overcome them, he didn't necessarily have to kill them. Like the priest guy in GoW2 that he smashes his head into an altar so the blood runs down to a receptacle and opens the new pathway. Could've just slit the guy's arm and let the blood run down from there, then staunched the wound w/ some cloth. Instead, he just smashed the guy's head like a pumpkin and moved on. Kratos is an evil dick.

Johnny Eagle posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Village of the Elves - Suikoden I

Entire town (albeit it's not very large) all built on top of / into a single huge tree.

While on the subject of Suikoden, wasn't the Elves Village in 4 located in a forest?

It was in a forest, don't think it was literally in the trees like TC was asking for examples of. But I don't remember 4 that well.

Seriously, though. Why were numbers printed on a blueberry? Threw it out, kinda don't want to eat any more from the pint now.

Village of the Elves - Suikoden I

Entire town (albeit it's not very large) all built on top of / into a single huge tree.

Zeus posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Zeus posted...

H.H. Holmes, duh.

Sin_of_Chaos posted...

Kratos is considered a mass murderer by some. He kills but he's not considered evil.

Same goes for Trevor from GTA.

Don't get me wrong though, murder is very wrong.

Kratos kills on the battlefield (for the most part) and mostly kills monsters, Trevor illegally murders people.

Kratos murders innocents in every game, too. Right in the first one, there's a twisted sort of plot-mandatory "minigame" where you push some helpless guy in a cage up an incline while monsters periodically attack you and he begs you not to do this, all so you can sacrifice him in a fire and proceed.

Hence "for the most part"

So, as long as someone scores enough kills on the battlefield, he's not evil for occasionally going out and murdering a civilian (not as collateral damage, but specifically trying to harm said person) for shits and giggles. Got it.

Had "161" printed on it. No idea why, all I know is that's fucking weird. Is that a normal thing and I just never noticed any other blueberries w/ numbers on them?

I hate Bose speakers. The bass is way too strong, drowns out the music, only seeming purpose is to annoy the fuck out of neighborhoods you drive through.

When I got my new car, in the midst of talking up the sound system, the dealer actually mentioned it didn't have Bose speakers in a "just as a caveat, though..." sort of voice. I was like, "great, I don't want them anyway!" Probably a bad move before negotiating the price, lol

To answer TC, like others have said, b/c people are dumb enough to pay for the brand name.

Zeus posted...

H.H. Holmes, duh.

Sin_of_Chaos posted...

Kratos is considered a mass murderer by some. He kills but he's not considered evil.

Same goes for Trevor from GTA.

Don't get me wrong though, murder is very wrong.

Kratos kills on the battlefield (for the most part) and mostly kills monsters, Trevor illegally murders people.

Kratos murders innocents in every game, too. Right in the first one, there's a twisted sort of plot-mandatory "minigame" where you push some helpless guy in a cage up an incline while monsters periodically attack you and he begs you not to do this, all so you can sacrifice him in a fire and proceed.

Never played any GTA, but I'd assume any main character in such games is evil until definitively proven otherwise.

Sin_of_Chaos posted...

She has made so many bigoted comments, some which might be considered racist about certain people. She follows some white nationalist accounts, many which are antisemetic yet she claims to be this "proud Jew" and is highly devout to her religion but attacks Muslims and refugees and acts like that all Muslims are bad people, which they are not.

And then she has happened to have had a Twitter battle against David Duke, the most well known white nationalist and antisemite in America yet she follows some white nationalist accounts and those tend to be antisemetic. Talk about hypocrisy.

And as for Holmes, he is a psychopath and not a good guy. I never said which is a good guy, just which is less evil.

And about what I said about Kratos. He is considered a mass murderer but yet no one calls him evil. Same with Trevor from GTA5.

I know nothing about her social media, nor do I really care. But perhaps she follows them just so she can see what they say and respond to it?

Holmes is a mass murderer and until Jenna actually DOES something, there isn't even anything close to resembling a comparison of the two.

And Kratos is a fucking vile, evil piece of shit. I bought the first 3 God of War games b/c I love Greek Mythology and the game play is good. But it was a struggle to get through the first two games because I outright despised Kratos by midway through the first game and didn't want to help him succeed. I got the 3rd game, but got to the very first area where you're overthrowing one set of gods for another set solely because hypocritical sociopath Kratos didn't like Zeus and how it would cause calamity for the world at large but nope, he don't care, and I decided, "yeah...I can't do this anymore" and put the game away. Don't know if I'll ever play it again, the only enjoyment I get from GoW anymore is intentionally getting Kratos maimed by the enemies.

Just report TC and move on, he wants you to keep his trolling/flaming topics alive. That said, since I bumped the topic for that PSA anyway, may as well have fun:

MICHALECOLE posted...

Imagine having such an unimportant life that somebody playing another video game console than you gets you this angry

Somebody quote this so he can see it

His only console for games is an Xbox, so of course he has a lot of free time.

Lulz!

This from the president who complained that you'd need to be Einstein to figure out how the Navy's new electromagnetic catapults work and said they should go back to "god damned steam!"
Yeah, now he cares about modernization of government tech? Hah!

While the few horror stories where they still use XP or DOS 3.11 or whatever certainly need an upgrade, most government agencies probably have servicable computing already, this sounds like a huge waste of money, and the cited estimated long term savings made me laugh out loud.
"$1 trillion over 10 years," HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Moving to cloud-based storage seems like a particularly dumb idea, too, considering how much of government data is classified or sensitive / PII. Not to mention it was only a few years ago OPM got hacked and the personal data of literally over 20 million past/present employees and applicants was stolen, and not long before that a private company that did background checks was also hacked and had all that sensitive data stolen, too.

When it comes to government data, sometimes making it more difficult to access is a GOOD thing, and we should be wary of taking down the various barriers to it when foreign governments are constantly trying to steal it.

DeathMagnetic80 posted...

Conservatives need to get their shit together, this guy is a terrorist and getting any honor is repulsive, but literally do the same thing and start a civil war here, and you get schools named after you and statues honoring your leaders as a matter of "Southern Pride"

Yeah, that's pretty repulsive, too. Don't know how they can get away w/ honoring literal traitors.
Read a historical timeline a few weeks ago, too, where it went into detail about how the use of the Confederate battle flag was pretty much nonexistent after the war and only started up again widespread during the civil rights era of the 50's and 60's, to "fight back" against it. It's all pretty sickening.

darkknight109 posted...

This is 100% speculation on my part, but given that a) He was taken around the time Trump and Kim were having their little public tiff, with Trump chest-thumping and sending warships towards Korea (which would be very provocative to a regime as concerned about image as North Korea) and b) He may have been taken solely due to his nationality, I suspect the original plan was probably to use him to dick around Trump and make America look weak. Just to sort of use it as a quiet "We can always kidnap your citizens if you keep trying to make us look bad" message. But some interrogator went too far and wound up nearly killing the kid, which left him comatose and brain-dead.

Umm...Warmbier was detained like a year and a half ago and I read that he had been in the coma for 15 months. Both of those dates are well before Trump was even president.

De Blasio seemed, like any nationally prominent politician, like he had long term goals of a higher office, whether it be governor, senator, or so on. If he had any such goals, then he just royally shot himself in the foot just to stay in the good graces of his local Puerto Rican community's voters.

*shrug* I'm just saying, either he planned to retire as a politician after being mayor of NYC, or he's incredibly fucking stupid...and will now have to retire from being a politician after being mayor of NYC.
I don't get why....why would he choose to march after all? What a stupid, trivial thing to throw away your career over.

"Yeah, going to North Korea seems like a bad idea..."
"Hold my Warmbier!"

^Sorry, too easy. Feel bad for the guy and his family and the sentence was too harsh even if he did steal the poster. But this is like the textbook definition of a Darwin Award.

BlackScythe0 posted...

How will Trump respond?

Praise the North Korean healthcare system for keeping him alive for over a year and blame Obamacare for killing him shortly after he arrived back in the US.

See, there's her problem.

After she had her clients restrained or handcuffed, she only beat them. If she had shot them dead after beating them, the police would've counted it as previous years of experience and brought her in at a higher pay.

Monistic_Turtle posted...

And even though the narrative was sparse, it actually felt... real? I don't know, but the characters seemed genuine and I actually cared about Zelda's struggles. Some of the VA's were hit or miss, but overall, it didn't feel like some high fantasy drivel and it wasn't convoluted.

The story in this game is terrible, one of the worst of the Zelda series, which is quite a feat.
The guy in the video covered it pretty well, but what is "real" about the narrative? As he said, supposedly the world's on the brink of destruction, but all the towns are idyllic and peaceful and a whole 100 years after Ganon pretty much won, only NOW are the divine beasts becoming a problem for some reason. And Zelda's locked in battle w/ Ganon for 100 years w/o losing somehow while Link got pwned pretty quick and unexplainably doesn't age that whole time. None of it makes sense or feels "real," everything about the plot contradicts itself despite not even having much material to conflict with itself on in the first place.
And no Zelda plot has ever been complex enough to risk being "convoluted."

That said, BotW has one of the worst stories of a Zelda game and Skyward Sword has one of the best. And...that pretty much sums up how important the story is to a Zelda game. :p

Kimbos_Egg posted...

58 now

jesus

Well, it said 30 dead and 70 missing in the last update. Anyone still missing at this point is most likely dead, so the number will probably get up to near 100. :(

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ConfessPlease posted...

Why would they have bail for someone like this wth.

There's a guy who was caught w/ bomb-making materials after his roomate told the police about him and he admitted that he intended to plant bombs synagogues (cause he's a neo-nazi) and nuclear power plants (because if you're going to be a terrorist, I guess go big).
The judge is actually considering setting a bail amount for that lunatic.

Shit makes no sense, I bet there are drug dealers arrested peacefully that have had bail denied, but intended/successful mass murderers gotta get their bail option.

Because apparently you believe that the accused shouldn't have rights? >_> We live in a nation which, because of the faults of other systems, we have a presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt so the biggest considerations aren't necessarily the scope of the crime but is he a flight risk, etc. The fact that somebody is accused of murder or plotted a mass murder doesn't necessarily matter with occasional exceptions.

He admitted he was planning to, AND they found the materials in his living quarters.
He still gets his trial, but it's pretty fucking blatantly obvious he's a serious danger to society and should be held until his trial.

But why am I arguing w/ you, you talk out of both sides of your ass? If some "liberal judge" gave bail to a suspected mass murderer w/ far less evidence against him than the above guy and he went on to kill people, you'd excoriate the "bleeding heart activist judge."

Except I'd say exactly the same thing, which is literally what I've said every single time it's come up. We live in a system of laws. Laws are meaningless if you ignore them whenever you fucking well feel like it.

There is no law guaranteeing that anyone being held for a trial is entitled to bail. There is a law to limit excessive bail amounts, but there is no such law saying every suspect MUST be given a bail option.

Judges deny bail for serious threats all the time. I think they know the law better than you do.

And, by your own logic, the fact that he wasn't denied bail means he wasn't a serious threat. After all, that judge knows the law better than you, right?

Well, the guy I'm referring to, the judge hasn't decided yet if there should be a bail set. The fact he isn't sure is pretty disheartening, though.

ssj4supervegeta posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Christianity has a far more negative impact on most American's lives than Islam.

no it doesn't. it absolutely doesn't.

the only point i could imagine you're trying to make, is that islam has very little impact at all, therefore by default chirstianity would have more negative impact because it has any impact at all.

Christianity has lots of impact in America.
Gays fighting for equal rights.
All the attempts to chip away at women's abortion rights, and various Christian terror attacks on Planned Parenthood or abortion doctors.
The poisonous "prosperity gospel" that guides the American religious right to stick it to the poor.
All the attacks on science and attempts to thwart it. I can't even imagine the kinds of medical breakthroughs we'd have by now if the Christian lobby didn't battle so hard to prevent stem cell research.

And that's just off the top of my sleep-deprived head. Christians make day to day life in this country miserable for everyone. I'm sure Muslims would be at least as bad if they were the majority, but the fact is they're not, there's very few of them in the U.S., so they concern me less.

Aaantlion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Aaantlion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

ConfessPlease posted...

Why would they have bail for someone like this wth.

There's a guy who was caught w/ bomb-making materials after his roomate told the police about him and he admitted that he intended to plant bombs synagogues (cause he's a neo-nazi) and nuclear power plants (because if you're going to be a terrorist, I guess go big).
The judge is actually considering setting a bail amount for that lunatic.

Shit makes no sense, I bet there are drug dealers arrested peacefully that have had bail denied, but intended/successful mass murderers gotta get their bail option.

Because apparently you believe that the accused shouldn't have rights? >_> We live in a nation which, because of the faults of other systems, we have a presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt so the biggest considerations aren't necessarily the scope of the crime but is he a flight risk, etc. The fact that somebody is accused of murder or plotted a mass murder doesn't necessarily matter with occasional exceptions.

He admitted he was planning to, AND they found the materials in his living quarters.
He still gets his trial, but it's pretty fucking blatantly obvious he's a serious danger to society and should be held until his trial.

But why am I arguing w/ you, you talk out of both sides of your ass? If some "liberal judge" gave bail to a suspected mass murderer w/ far less evidence against him than the above guy and he went on to kill people, you'd excoriate the "bleeding heart activist judge."

Except I'd say exactly the same thing, which is literally what I've said every single time it's come up. We live in a system of laws. Laws are meaningless if you ignore them whenever you fucking well feel like it.

There is no law guaranteeing that anyone being held for a trial is entitled to bail. There is a law to limit excessive bail amounts, but there is no such law saying every suspect MUST be given a bail option.

Judges deny bail for serious threats all the time. I think they know the law better than you do.

justchill433 posted...

It's a shame people blame the religion and not the people. People have used religion to gain land, power, wealth, etc.. but that doesn't make the religion itself bad.

So, what you're saying is, Islam isn't bad, but you have major problems with the Muslim people?

:p It's just amusing, b/c usually when criticizing Islamic terrorism, people go out of their way to say the opposite, that they "love" the people and are merely critiquing the ideology. So it's funny to see someone go the exact opposite route.
I blame both

OhhhJa

And before you go blah blah blah the crusades, I'm talking about right here and right now... you know... the real world.... the one we're actually living in

While the way he ended the sentence was stupid...our history is part of "the real world," too...it's pretty obvious what he means is he is only concerned about present day, and you guys are being overly pedantic.

I need a shower, I just defended OhhhJa....

Aaantlion posted...

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ConfessPlease posted...

Why would they have bail for someone like this wth.

There's a guy who was caught w/ bomb-making materials after his roomate told the police about him and he admitted that he intended to plant bombs synagogues (cause he's a neo-nazi) and nuclear power plants (because if you're going to be a terrorist, I guess go big).
The judge is actually considering setting a bail amount for that lunatic.

Shit makes no sense, I bet there are drug dealers arrested peacefully that have had bail denied, but intended/successful mass murderers gotta get their bail option.

Because apparently you believe that the accused shouldn't have rights? >_> We live in a nation which, because of the faults of other systems, we have a presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt so the biggest considerations aren't necessarily the scope of the crime but is he a flight risk, etc. The fact that somebody is accused of murder or plotted a mass murder doesn't necessarily matter with occasional exceptions.

He admitted he was planning to, AND they found the materials in his living quarters.
He still gets his trial, but it's pretty fucking blatantly obvious he's a serious danger to society and should be held until his trial.

But why am I arguing w/ you, you talk out of both sides of your ass? If some "liberal judge" gave bail to a suspected mass murderer w/ far less evidence against him than the above guy and he went on to kill people, you'd excoriate the "bleeding heart activist judge."

It's a great game w/ a lot of annoying/bad design decisions that didn't need to be included and that wastes your time too damn much, bringing down the enjoyment a fair bit.

I'd say 8/10 (a good score, to me an average game is 5 or 6 out of 10), but far from a near-perfect 10/10 like all the critics lavished upon it. I'm also harsher in judgement towards problems w/ a game that are solely the fault of bad design decisions, though. Like...the frame rate drops I don't mind as much, they're just trying to make a big beautiful game on weak hardware and it's not that bad. The idea of weapons breaking so often and having no meter to tell you how damaged one is besides the sparkle for undamaged and red flash for nearly gone? No excuse for that.

Way too many QTE's, that was like the entirety of the gameplay. Huge letdown. Also, while it seems more and more games are using "bullet time" now, especially the Bayonetta variety where you have to dodge at the right moment to trigger it (looking at you, Breath of the Wild), I guess this game...isn't doing that at all? On such a high end console, you'd think they'd finally be able to incorporate the "Spidey Sense" and let players who can react quickly enough avoid attacks and/or get some benefit out of dodging like time slowing down. While both boil down to "hit a button at the right time," that's at least more organic and less disruptive than a QTE and I'd vastly prefer that sort of thing.

I don't care about it being exclusive b/c I'll never own an Xbox product of any kind anyway.

Damn, there went 2 hours of my time.

Good review, though. Touches on a lot of the problems with the game, the solutions for weapon durability especially were good (except for weapons breaking in one hit on Ganon, that's unbelievably stupid).

ConfessPlease posted...

Why would they have bail for someone like this wth.

There's a guy who was caught w/ bomb-making materials after his roomate told the police about him and he admitted that he intended to plant bombs synagogues (cause he's a neo-nazi) and nuclear power plants (because if you're going to be a terrorist, I guess go big).
The judge is actually considering setting a bail amount for that lunatic.

Shit makes no sense, I bet there are drug dealers arrested peacefully that have had bail denied, but intended/successful mass murderers gotta get their bail option.

Mario_VS_DK posted...

Ahhhhhh. Someone already can't make the first session. This is a bad omen.

Flaky players is a surprisingly common problem. Really fucking frustrating since as DM you do 95% of the work, and then someone doesn't even bother to show up. Too often, they won't even have the decency to give you notice that they can't make it, at least this guy did.
It's much worse online than actual face to face. My campaign I had three people I knew previously who were solid and there every week, but the 4th and/or 5th player (party size varied) was a constant problem for a whole damn year. Went through so many inconsistent/unreliable people before I finally found another good player.

Whole grain, multi-grain, wheat, etc... All are good. I avoid white bread as much as possible.

Only issue I have w/ the wheat/grain bread products is the higher tolerances they're given by FDA for insect parts per million. Honestly really fucking gross, and I have to try really hard not to think about it. (on a related note, bread is probably the only product where I actually prefer to see LOWER values of protein...)

Lil_Bit83 posted...

If he's been proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt, death sentence. What's the point of law enforcement chasing them down for him to be released later? The family can't get justice, safety or closure for those same reasons. Letting known malicious killers back into society is just as stupid and harmful as letting known sex predators back out. Either keep their asses in prison for the rest of their lives or kill em so no else has to suffer. "Rehabilitating them" is a dangerous and stupid mindset.

Life sentence...wouldn't be released. That said, I support the death penalty so if he's guilty, execute him.

His murders don't seem especially "brutal" to me compared to other murders, though. Suffocation, strangling, throat slit...
Is that really any more "brutal" than being stabbed, shot, bludgeoned in the head so much it's fatal, or other common forms of violent murder?
It's not like he tied them up and set them on fire or whatever. I feel like it's only considered "brutal" because the victims include young white women.

OhhhJa posted...

Well, obviously if you're going to go back to the days of Charlemagne or the Roman empire you'll find plenty of evidence of Christian brutality. I don't think anyone is disputing that. You can reference all the history you want to point fingers at big bad Christianity but that doesn't change the atrocities committed in the name of Islam now nor does it change the fact that the Quran is a far more twisted doctrine than the new testament. Nor does it change the fact that with the advancements in numerous fields of science and a better understanding of history, we live in a world far more enlightened than the world hundreds of years ago. As of now, the middle east largely seems to be a microcosm of wanting to live in a time over a thousand years removed

The discussion I was responding to was about historical acts, with you trying to downplay how widespread Christian barbarism was.

I do agree with you that Islam today is the more violent religion. I also agree that making Christianity cease to exist today won't undo all the shit they did in the past, and thus is a moot point (but like hell am I going to let you try to pretend like they weren't that evil back then) and ending Islam would reduce violence today more.

That being said, I agree w/ TC. I care more about my own backyard, and in the U.S. Muslims are a tiny % of the population...thankfully... while as Christians of any sect are a huge majority. Thus, in my own personal day to day life and that of my friends and family, Christians negatively affect us far more than Muslims do.

OhhhJa posted...

TyVulpine posted...

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TyVulpine posted...

it was also the conquest of the Americas and the wiping out of the Native Americans

This was not done under the moniker of Christianity though

Yes it was. If the natives refused to convert, they were executed and their lands seized.

The Spanish did use those tactics sometimes but don't pretend that was some universal thing among all the colonists

It was far from only Native Americans or Spanish Jews who were tortured and/or executed by the evil Christian menace for refusing to convert.
For example, here's a bit of history of Charlemagne, widely held up in totally positive view when studied/taught historically and one of the most prominent figures of Christianity in the Middle Ages:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne#Eastern_campaigns

He returned to Saxony in 782 and instituted a code of law and appointed counts, both Saxon and Frank. The laws were draconian on religious issues; for example, the Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae prescribed death to Saxon pagans who refused to convert to Christianity. This led to renewed conflict. That year, in autumn, Widukind returned and led a new revolt. In response, at Verden in Lower Saxony, Charlemagne is recorded as having ordered the execution of 4,500 Saxon prisoners, known as the Massacre of Verden ("Verdener Blutgericht"). The killings triggered three years of renewed bloody warfare (783–785). During this war the Frisians were finally subdued and a large part of their fleet was burned. The war ended with Widukind accepting baptism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitulatio_de_partibus_Saxoniae

Many of the laws of Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae are focused on the Christianization of the pagan Saxons, including a sentence of death for Saxons who refuse to be baptised:

8. If any one of the race of the Saxons hereafter concealed among them shall have wished to hide himself unbaptized, and shall have scorned to come to baptism and shall have wished to remain a pagan, let him be punished by death.

"Islamophobia" has been a "problem" since 9/11. Trump had nothing to do w/ the hatred towards Muslims. He did embrace the hate (really is incredible how much he borrowed from WWE for his campaign) to energize his base, but the hatred was there long before last year.

I think you have it mixed up...Russell, the bomb-maker and whose bail is being discussed, the article says nothing about if he also converted to Islam.
Arthurs, the guy who killed the other two roomates in the building, converted to Islam (and if I recall correctly, said he killed the roomates b/c as neo-nazi's they didn't approve of him becoming Muslim).

In any case, it seems all of the roomates are/were some combination of neo-nazi or Islamic extremist, so it's nice to read about them fighting each other, and the whole mess leading to the cops busting one of them before he could carry out his own terrorist attack. Nothing beats having two despicable groups going after each other, I love villain vs. villain fights. No matter who gets hurt, you're happy.

CountessRolab posted...

If all American Christians woke up one day and decided Christianity wasnt real, I doubt they would convert to Islam. Judaism seems more likely.

But Judaism doesn't have the cancerous belief that others must be converted. Jews will actually test you to make sure you actually want to convert if you ask a Rabbi about it.
I think you underestimate just how much the lure of Christianity involves being able to force your beliefs down others' throats and claim moral superiority over them.

You really should have specified what happens to all the current adherents. Christianity and Islam both suck, and w/o some sort of control over the immediate consequences of the poll choice, I imagine if you eliminated one, the former adherents would largely just flock to the other, since they have so much in common (trying to force a theocracy on everyone, rigid backwards sexual hangups, doctrine to try to convert/"save" nonbelievers proactively/forcefully, encouragement of violence against nonbelievers who won't convert, etc...)

So I'm assuming when I choose which religion to eliminate, the people currently following it become agnostic or I get to choose their new belief system (in which case...agnostic). Otherwise this is pointless, they'll just flock to the next most repressive, evil religious institution they can find.

CountessRolab posted...

Christianity has a far more negative impact on most American's lives than Islam.

Agreed, which is why I picked Christianity. But it was really tough to choose.

knivesX2004 posted...

I love how the only argument against Cosby is from his fans saying "They are paying the women to lie".
Ok, sure they're paying 40 women to say he raped them.
Because once you say you've been raped (even if you lie, as has happened in few cases in the past) life goes on normally right?
For fuck's sake...

Considering it's virtually unheard of to imprison people for making false rape claims or even try them in court, I don't see why it wouldn't go on normally after lying about it.

Lil69Leo posted...

Cosby literally admitted to doing exactly what they accused him of in a deposition.

His guilt is pretty clear.

People do give false confessions for various reasons quite often. I mean, I think he probably did it between the confession and the sheer number of claims. But a bunch of people claiming it and him saying one time that he did isn't enough evidence on its own to convict someone. Well, perhaps if he were poor it would be. Those who can afford decent lawyers generally get the benefit of the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.

Red_Frog posted...

Equal parts skill, determination and cussing.

These, plus Game Genie.
Thank the gods for Game Genie. Though it didn't help much for Zelda 1...the cheat code that was really of any help...invincibility...also meant you could never save since you couldn't die.

keyblader1985 posted...

Fun fact: it took me several years to beat Link to the Past, because at that part where Agahnim disappears behind the curtains, I never knew you could swipe them with your sword.

Never slashed at the curtains in Hyrule Castle on your first trip there? Man, I was trying to slash anything I could. Enemies, curtains, friendly NPCs, signs, fences, whatever. I knew by then I could slash curtains, and you literally see him go through the middle curtain. Never thought anyone would get stumped by that...

Mitsukiba posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Only two things I cared about were Xenoblade 2 and BotW DLC (in that order).

Xenoblade 2...wtf? I knew the character designs looked like they came straight out of a shit anime but I didn't think they'd be THIS awful (and I say that as a huge anime fan, but damn theese designs are bad). And that voice acting, holy fuck! I see people begging for dual audio, I'd be happy to just turn it off completely, it's that bad. ("mute the tv" is not the same thing, then I can't hear the hopefully epic background music nor battle sound effects)

BotW DLC...I don't get it. One thing seems to be an extended Eventide Island, the rest...what is it? Did they explain? Does anything know? What is Master Mode? Are they letting you play as the Champions in the 2nd DLC pack, or just some side story experienced as Link still? What else is there? I watched the trailer and the only sure thing I got from it was, "Eventide 2.0. Oh, and a bunch of crappy new costumes and masks."

Don't let them hear you say that.

Who is "them" and what specifically out of the things I said is "that"?

params7 posted...

Leftists showing their class by taking shots at Republicans after they just survived a mass shooting. These are the people who claim they know what's best for the country, lol.

I liken it to when a "bleeding heart" liberal gives a prisoner early release and he goes on to kill someone. Republicans have no problem "politicizing" a tragedy like that.
(And in both this karma-riffic shooting incident and the above example, "politicizing" it is justified b/c the other side was wrong and you want to stop another such tragedy from occurring)

And lest we forget, mere hours after Justice Scalia passed away, before it could even be concluded if he died due to natural causes, Mitch McConnell took time out of his weekend to immediately politicize THAT by saying there'd be no hearings for an Obama appointee.

You don't like the same thing being done back to you? Tough.

ICOYAR, stay off the wingnut sites and get some fresh air.

Kathy Griffin did something stupid to be edgy and was rightfully castigated for it by pretty much everyone.
Everything else you said is tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory or demonstrably false.

- Theaters have used [current president's image] for years in Caesar plays, including...yes, Obama, too. The message it sends is supposed to be that political violence solves nothing, sounds like you completely missed the point.
- Unlike your bs conspiracy theories, the Russia hacking is very real and (unlike...say...the birther crap about Obama) has actual federal agencies investigating it heavily right now, with politicians on both sides expressing concern about it.