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| Topic | Is Doug Benson the worst comedian |
| TommyG663513 08/05/17 2:54:34 PM #2 | A poor mans Seth Rogen --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | I'm going to be permanently leaving CE. [Blogfaqs] |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 10:52:39 PM #61 | TommyG663513 posted... smoliske posted...TommyG663513 posted...Feline_Heart posted...See you next week --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | I'm going to be permanently leaving CE. [Blogfaqs] |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 10:37:02 PM #55 | smoliske posted... TommyG663513 posted...Feline_Heart posted...See you next week --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | I'm going to be permanently leaving CE. [Blogfaqs] |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 10:14:35 PM #16 | Feline_Heart posted... See you next week --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Man shames woman after she sent his car plate to a friend part 2 |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 5:30:58 PM #36 | Just acknowledge that this guy is entitled to feel it is awkward. Who knows what he wants or what he saw in her or what he's had to do in the past. The same goes for her towards him. Dating can be pretty fickle and highly subjective. You understand this as an awkward move by the girl on your date. It didn't ruin yours, but it could bother someone else. It is kind of weird to have a girl go "Oh this picture is in case you rape or murder me so now we can enjoy our date." We all have a different tolerance for dealing with weirdness in a romantic context. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Man shames woman after she sent his car plate to a friend part 2 |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 3:13:15 PM #33 | Muffinz0rz posted... Um no. I would never schedule a first date with someone I've never met in person where they would need to get in my car at a very early point in the date. I always meet people in a public place and I drive myself there and back. There are steps you can take before a date or on the date that don't leave you in as vulnerable of a position. BOTH parties in this scenario seem to have, on some level, failed at that. The vast majority of the time this stuff really isn't a problem, but here we have a click bait article about it and here we all are hook, line, and sinker. I also would not have been like the guy in the article and stopped the date right then and there. I would have been like "um ok, whatever" and thought it was really weird. It definitely wouldn't ruin the date for me, but it would be an awkward moment. If that is the only awkward weird moment then I wouldn't think anything of it, but if there are numerous moments like that then I'd think this date just isn't working out and either end early or not go on a second date. I just think it is very ok to find her behavior to be awkward, clumsy, bordering on rude. If you want to end the date that early then you have the right to. Maybe he generally wasn't that into this girl in the first place and only sort of wanted to go on the date then the girl snaps a pic of his license plate. In that scenario, the guy is already looking for a reason to bail and she just gave him one. Though you could also be a white knight and be all like "Women have it absolutely horrible and we must condone any and all of their behavior and any guy who isn't 100% in favor of everything a woman has to do to feel safe must not be a nice or caring person at all." --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Man shames woman after she sent his car plate to a friend part 2 |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 2:18:12 PM #28 | FrisbeeDude posted... WizardPowers posted...If you're that paranoid maybe just stick to dating people you actually know through some social circle. Women are more likely to be assaulted by someone they know than a random person. There are reasonable precautions and then there is being overly paranoid. Generally speaking, I don't mind getting in a strangers car for a first date anyways. You should meet your first date in a public place with your own transportation figured out let some friends know your location and send them check in texts. If you still feel paranoid/uncomfortable with a person after one date then you probably shouldn't see them for a second date. This whole hopping into their car and needing to take a picture of their license plate is such an avoidable scenario by both parties involved. Quite frankly, if the guy thought the girl hopping into the car was a good idea for a first date and the girl was unwilling unless she could snap a pic of his license plate to her friends then it sounds like they just were not meant for each other. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Man shames woman after she sent his car plate to a friend part 2 |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 2:01:11 PM #24 | Muffinz0rz posted... darkphoenix181 posted...Muffinz0rz posted...darkphoenix181 posted...actually means he is more secure If you very honestly think you may be getting raped or killed by this guy to the point that you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO get his license plate info to a friend then you probably shouldn't be getting into his car as a first date type of thing. If a girl is that paranoid then she should meet at a public place with her own transportation lined up. That avoids this scenario completely. If she is still afraid enough to get into his car without taking a pic of his license plate on the second date then she is too paranoid. Women don't get an endless license to any behavior in the name of protecting themselves. How do you expect a date to go well if the thought of "he may rape or kill me" is constantly in the back of your head. You have to live life a little and take some chances. The vast majority of people won't harm you. That doesn't mean women should avoid any precautions, but they should relax a little bit too. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Man shames woman after she sent his car plate to a friend part 2 |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 1:19:14 PM #20 | From the previous topic... 1. The article is horribly written and clearly some stupid click bait meant to incite outrage and potentially fuel 500 post topics on CE 2. Taking a picture of someone's license plate isn't really that great of a tactic anyways. It only helps after something bad has already happened to you. Taking a picture is also generally not subtle. Text the license plate number and/or the color and make of the car instead. 3. If she still felt compelled to snap the pic of the license plate she could have been way more tactful about it. If someone notices you doing it then you could have been way better about it. 4. She probably shouldn't have gotten in a strangers car on a first date. Meeting in public with your own transportation to and from is your best bet. 5. The vast majority of guys understand when a girl has to let someone know where they are going and who they are meeting with when meeting someone from a dating app. They also don't really like it being shoved in their face. It typically doesn't make for good date conversation and is stuff you are better off keeping to yourself and your friends who check up on you. It is a necessary reality, but so is shaving your legs, taking a dump, cleaning boogers from your nose, etc. Treat it like those things as they are all necessary, but very bad for conversation during a date. 6. There is never anything wrong with deciding to end a date at any point. It is up to you to just walk away whenever you want. You shouldn't shame your date when you walk away and they shouldn't shame you for walking away. If someone feels uncomfortable then they are welcome to leave. 7. If a girl wants to take a picture of my ID in case I rape, abduct, or murder her then I probably won't be in the mood for a date. I'll also worry about her trying to steal my identity. There does reach a point where a guy fears for his own safety and security when a woman tries to find information on the guy. 8. Girls absolutely can go overboard when "protecting" themselves to the point of it being invasive or offensive to the guy. Don't treat the date like you are building a CSI case against the guy. Some basic protection is ok like texting a close friend your location every now and then, but don't feel like you need to get his finger prints. 9. Both people have a need for safety and security when meeting up from a dating app. Both people should work with each other to establish this. Typically friend each other on Facebook or exchange phone numbers before meeting. Understand that each person needs to figure out that the other person isn't some crazy stalker. Just some general guidelines and observations I made about the original topic. The guy isn't right or wrong for ending the date and the girl is definitely wrong for being tactless about snapping the pic of the license plate. There is a difference between choosing to not communicate with someone and choosing to take pictures of something that can be used to track someone down. The guy could have thought this girl was a crazy stalker or just a weird person in general. The girl isn't entitled to take a picture of the guys license plate and still go on a date with him. He is always entitled (and so is she) to end the date at any point. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | man, getting into management, you really look at past managers differently |
| TommyG663513 08/04/17 12:24:21 PM #19 | The vast majority of managers I've had deserve zero sympathy. My work environment is incredibly toxic. Management is constantly out to screw over union employees. Upper management then also tries to screw over middle management and then they appeal to union workers for sympathy. This is the part where I tell them to go screw themselves. The one thing working in a union has taught me is that they are absolutely necessary, because there are way too many people at the top doing everything they can to screw people at the bottom. I won't feel bad for someone who made the decision to get into middle management. That was entirely their choice. Their problems don't get to become my problems, because they think they can elicit sympathy from me. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | the Buddy Holly commercial is still the worst thing ever made |
| TommyG663513 08/03/17 9:41:11 PM #7 | Damn_Underscore posted... TommyG663513 posted...It is a great song though But it still remains true despite their efforts. Buddy Holly is a great song --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | man, getting into management, you really look at past managers differently |
| TommyG663513 08/03/17 9:28:35 PM #6 | AlternativeFAQS posted... i switch between feeling bad for them and "realizing that they chose to do it probably just to move up so fuck them" every week Basically this. I was well aware that the added stress is not worth the extra pay. I don't feel bad for them that they didn't discover that until well after they've been working the job. Middle management is really only worth it under two circumstances. 1. You will be doing it short term. 2. You have a legitimate and clear path to upper management also known as less stress and more pay. Though a third possible scenario is that you are just desperate for money which is a pretty bad place to begin with. Both the scenarios I listed above basically involved setting a time limit of sorts on the job. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | the Buddy Holly commercial is still the worst thing ever made |
| TommyG663513 08/03/17 7:08:42 PM #3 | It is a great song though --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | where'd bryon go? |
| TommyG663513 08/03/17 10:59:18 AM #3 | Welfare check --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/02/17 2:00:59 PM #137 | *citation needed You also need to compare your numbers and percentages to those of men. Otherwise you'd be potentially painting the picture that men have no problems whatsoever. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Y'know the funny thing about all the Trump people being fired and stuff? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 10:19:32 PM #7 | Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Probably, only if there was some way to check . . . Nope no way to check. Government records are a very recent thing. We only have Trump tweets to go by. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | If you dont want to be a virgin anymore, why not just hook up with a fat girl? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 10:13:38 PM #5 | I tried, but I was too disgusted. Didn't like her as a person either. Worth saving it for someone I actually like and care about. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 5:16:23 PM #134 | Twinmold posted... I get it that you want to use your story with your mom as a tool to shame other people. Someone who had moved completely beyond it would have never brought it up or used it as a tool to shame someone in an argument. Yeah I never once used my own family or parents for any justification for anything. I never once mentioned my family, but you did. You have really bad reading comprehension. Go back and find the quote. I already quoted you when you flashed your badge of courage about overcoming problems with your mom and tree shaming me with it. I've seen that trick used plenty of times. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 2:35:19 PM #113 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Yeah you're definitely right. Absolutely every single statement you have made is because of me and you have no responsibility to that whatsoever. No I started being condescending to you, because I quite frankly don't care for your opinions or the fact that you don't seem to understand anything I say, but still argue with it. I talk down to you, because you've proven yourself incapable or completely unwilling to understand anything I say. None of your responses ever seem to address what I'm talking about. You clearly have your own problems. Done with you. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 2:32:52 PM #112 | Twinmold posted... For all I know that guy was severely abused by women growing up and his comments are in some sense justified. Yeah I'm not trying to justify being a douche or say it is a good thing or that you should be nice back or even want to communicate with him at all. The only thing I've advocated for is that you should attempt to understand. You are more than welcome to make your own personal decisions for who to spend your time with. I'm not sure on how you think I'm doubling down on being a douche. The worst thing I said to anyone ITT is telling Asherlee I don't think she has high empathy levels. I never said one thing bad about women at all. I've just been arguing with people about the idea of resentment and what should be done about it. I get it that you want to use your story with your mom as a tool to shame other people. Someone who had moved completely beyond it would have never brought it up or used it as a tool to shame someone in an argument. I could call you a douche right back for that, but I'd prefer to think that your behavior worked at one time very well and you still cling to it. It clearly still bothers you and I feel for that. I'm no stranger to emotional pain and I can empathize. I'm sorry your mom was crappy to you and I hope you continue to feel a bit better everyday. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 2:17:56 PM #108 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Asherlee10 posted...TommyG663513 posted...No the part where I said you lack empathy anywhere else was when I tried using different non men vs. women type resentment scenarios and you still said you would never seek to understand them. Yeah you're definitely right. Absolutely every single statement you have made is because of me and you have no responsibility to that whatsoever. Yeah I stated it isn't their responsibility to understand the resentful person. I've never once stated it is their responsibility. I have stated IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE if you or anyone try to understand another persons resentment. It would encourage you to not do things like use a pejorative term to refer to a group of people. Though of course understanding someone else in this context is most likely to be about helping you in a way. Theoretically it would help the other person, but that isn't exactly the goal. It's more of a tangent. Get it yet? I'll dumb it down further for you. YOU DON'T HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND SOMEONE ELSE'S RESENTMENT It would just be beneficial to YOURSELF. There is a difference between seeking understanding of someone else's resentment and helping them through their own resentment. Not once have I ever said you or anyone should seek to help another person deal with their resentment. Not once have I said that, but you seem to think I've said that on multiple occasions. Do you understand the difference yet? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:59:58 PM #106 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...No the part where I said you lack empathy anywhere else was when I tried using different non men vs. women type resentment scenarios and you still said you would never seek to understand them. Quit repeating yourself. I get that you have no desire to own up to anything you've said ITT that may have been less than perfect. You want to think you understand absolutely everything perfectly instead of expressing a shred of vulnerability. It is very obvious that you want to cling to me saying "you lack a sense of empathy," because you can over and over say it is wrong even when I admitted that yeah I shouldn't have said that. You can't manage to drop that or move beyond it. It makes you feel resentful towards me. Try to think about the resentment you've developed towards me and what you may share in common towards other people who hold resentment. Guess what, we all deal with resentment, we just all tend to get better at dealing with it the older we get. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:55:53 PM #105 | Twinmold posted... Having such a big problem with another person's resentment can grow and fester into its own level of resentment. Does anyone on this board have resentment towards the "neckbeards" as other people like to phrase it? Of course they do. It's very obvious ITT. Yeah his statement that 95% of men thinks he is awesome compared to 5% of women does come off a bit abrasive. It's also judgmental to call him a narcissist or a douche. For all I know that guy was severely abused by women growing up and his comments are in some sense justified. Or maybe he is just an extreme narcissist. That still is a possibility. We'll just never have much of a real idea if we just write him off that way from the start. That is why we should seek to understand these people better. We all love to use the image of the "neckbeard," because it paints the picture of a fat, lonely, basement dweller, living with his parents, who is just pissed at everyone who doesn't think they are awesome. It's very easy to just hate that person and never try to understand him. It is a lazy pejorative. We do it, because we don't want to put forth the effort to try and understand someone. It's just way easier to write them off and say the problem is entirely them. It's easier to say "they have problems and I'm way better off than them" than it is to recognize we have the same or similar problems to a different degree. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:47:11 PM #102 | That_Happened posted... TommyG663513 posted...Having such a big problem with another person's resentment can grow and fester into its own level of resentment. Does anyone on this board have resentment towards the "neckbeards" as other people like to phrase it? Of course they do. It's very obvious ITT. Um no not at all. Resentment is certainly on the more primitive end of defense mechanisms and not something you hope to maintain. It's akin to running away from a problem when you are incapable of dealing with it. Certainly, running away was at one point functional, because you were incapable of dealing with it. If you were to just run away and then face the problem you likely wouldn't run away from future problems as you've learned some better skills to deal with it. If you only keep running away then that is all you learn and it becomes a very bad defense mechanism for you. You should be cautious of resenting other people's resentment. Though at the same time I understand the functionality behind that resentment in response to someone else's resentment. What I am advocating is that we seek to better understand someone else's resentment, because it makes us less susceptible to being resentful ourselves. It's easy to just label a group one way and not give it another thought. We need to move beyond that though. The person with the original resentment very much has to move beyond that as well. We all have to move beyond resentment, but at the same time understand why we held those feelings and what the purpose was of them and why it is now completely maladaptive. That is just part of moving beyond it is understanding why it is there. People seem to confuse the idea of trying to understand someone else's resentment with helping them or making their resentment your responsibility. That isn't the idea I am trying to put out there at all. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:36:21 PM #99 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted..."I see no reason to empathize" No the part where I said you lack empathy anywhere else was when I tried using different non men vs. women type resentment scenarios and you still said you would never seek to understand them. I get me saying "I don't think you have much or any empathy" has really gotten under your skin. I certainly could have rephrased that better, but at the same time you have to own up to the fact that your statements haven't exactly been brimming with empathy. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:33:12 PM #98 | thanosibe posted... Resentment comes from a place of self protection. Resentment, at least in its early stages, serves a very functional purpose. It is there to protect you from further harm.I will agree that it can be benign at the very least, but it's never good. Resentment often times is about a plight in life or past sins of the group resented. Neither of which is fair to the group resented and something selfish on the person doing the resenting. Have I resented people when various plights in my life have brought me low? Sure. But I didn't expect any kind of recognition or attention from the group resented because it I was who chose to be so, and it was only I that could lift myself out of that rut. Resentment and a number of other maladaptive attitudes are absolutely AT ONE POINT very functional and "good" in a sense. They protect you in cases where you face extreme harm. This is true of every single "bad" defense mechanism. Typically they are all that is available to you as a child and you have to learn as an adult to move beyond them into something much more functional in society. Of course, resentment can also start in adulthood too, but it is hopefully easier to move beyond when developed that later in life. Traits developed as a child can be much more difficult to move beyond as an adult. But as you have stated, they can easily be very harmful to you if they continue for too long and are allowed to grow. The goal is never ever to hang onto resentment long term. I have never once stated it is something you should cling to. Just that we should seek to understand someone else's resentment instead of using a pejorative label like "neckbeard" to explain our level of understanding with it. My big argument that so many people ITT seem to have a problem with is that we should seek to understand those with resentment issues towards anything. It isn't our responsibility to solve their problems and us trying to understand their problems isn't an attempt to solve anything. It is about us learning not to resent their resentment. It's about growing and being more empathetic and not making statements like "they resent half of all people on this earth, so why should I ever try to understand them." Having such a big problem with another person's resentment can grow and fester into its own level of resentment. Does anyone on this board have resentment towards the "neckbeards" as other people like to phrase it? Of course they do. It's very obvious ITT. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:23:47 PM #91 | Seriously, just go to a support group for Men victimized by women through sexual assault and try to understand the resentment issues these guys are going through. Just listen instead of labeling all male resentment towards women as some stupid "neckbeard" thing. This is why I why I took a feminism class and why I've talked in women's groups about this stuff. I recognized at one point it was stupid of me to label these women as "stupid landwhales who can't land a man." That was a very much not an empathetic attitude I had towards these women and I learned a lot about myself and grew as a person went I sought to understand other people. It was never my responsibility to solve their issues nor did I ever try to make it mine. I never once tried to solve their problems. I just listened to their problems and shared my thoughts on my own problems. You can have extreme resentment towards women for what one or a few did to you that left lasting harm and not absolutely hate all women. You seem to think having resentment towards women is some horrible awful and extreme issue. I'm not sure, but you have this avoidance of it that I'm really struggling to understand. You understand? You can have a lot of resentment, but still be in some stage of seeking understanding for your feelings and not be consumed by hate. It's something of a grey area. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:17:27 PM #87 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Asherlee10 posted...TommyG663513 posted...'m stating you don't seem to have much empathy for other people while you state you see no reason to seek to understand other people. Here I am asking you questions and seeking to understand. You never really answered my questions and just went on some tangent about why you think my questions aren't worth answering. "I see no reason to empathize" That is why I put the "no empathy, limited or low empathy" label on you. I am basing this off of your own words. If you see no reason to ever empathize with a certain group of people then don't be shocked when people wonder if you have much empathy at all. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:15:45 PM #86 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Asherlee10 posted...TommyG663513 posted..."You have absolutely no idea about anything I think except for the parts where you pointed out exactly what I said." I made that assumption, because I used other examples and of resentment and you maintained the exact same philosophy. IDK, I mean, I've put myself in position to try and understand women who are resentful of men. I've improved my level of understanding their issues, but I would certainly caution myself from ever saying I truly understand. I just understand to a better degree than I did before. It sounds like me labeling you as not being the most empathetic person in the world has really gotten under your skin. You like to cling to this idea that resentment is some sort of hateful extreme and not worth ever even attempting to understand. That kind of sounds like resentment in and of itself that you have to work through on your own. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:12:17 PM #83 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...'m stating you don't seem to have much empathy for other people while you state you see no reason to seek to understand other people. Here I am asking you questions and seeking to understand. You never really answered my questions and just went on some tangent about why you think my questions aren't worth answering. Resentment comes from a place of self protection. Resentment, at least in its early stages, serves a very functional purpose. It is there to protect you from further harm. We all resent some person, group, place, whatever. No being on this earth is free from that, but we do vary in what degree we resent something or what exactly we resent. But yes resentment can absolutely consume a person if you let it linger for too long and you use your resentment as an excuse to mistreat others. I'm going to blow some of your minds here, you can be extremely resentful towards a group or a person and not let it drive you to actions that are harmful to said group/person. It can all be self contained. Not a healthy thing by any means, but it is better than actually harming someone else. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:06:08 PM #81 | Asherlee10 posted... Twinmold posted...Asherlee10 posted...I don't think that's irony, but it's something. This isn't just about resentment towards women, but resentment in general. I used examples of a black guy resenting white people too or a child resenting dogs. Your response has continued to be the exact same that it isn't your problem (it isn't) and that you have no responsibility to understand (you don't), but you also state that you see absolutely no value in trying to understand. That is the problem here. You think trying to understand this stuff is as absurd as you label their resentment to be absurd. You seem to have this idea that resentment means you are an abusive asshole when it can mean a variety of things. This kind of goes back to me labeling you as not the most empathetic person. At the very least, you appear that way in this topic talking about this specific subject. Does that sound better for you? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 1:02:53 PM #79 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted..."You have absolutely no idea about anything I think except for the parts where you pointed out exactly what I said." Yeah me and you don't seem to see eye to eye one bit. You can't seem to understand a single thing I've said to you. You are taking this rather personal. You want to say "I have no responsibility or desire to ever understand someone else's resentment" and "Hey, I too have empathy for others." I mean they certainly can both be true statements, but you have to admit that the first statement does not indicate strong levels of empathy though not necessarily a complete lack of it. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:59:33 PM #76 | CanuckCowboy posted... TommyG663513 posted... Yeah no. It's more about her lack of ability to do anything than just repeat herself over and over and not ever address a question I ask her. It really isn't much of an open discussion. Resentment towards women doesn't mean you completely hate all of them and think they are evil. Some people seem to really struggle with not thinking in extremes on this issue. It doesn't mean you lack respect for the entirety of half a population. Resentment can be minor, extreme, or it can vary a lot over time and towards different people. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:55:40 PM #74 | Asherlee10 posted... Twinmold posted...Why don't you care about me? I'M SOMEBODY'S LITTLE BOY! I'm stating you don't seem to have much empathy for other people while you state you see no reason to seek to understand other people. Here I am asking you questions and seeking to understand. You never really answered my questions and just went on some tangent about why you think my questions aren't worth answering. I'm not saying these people have absurd resentments towards others. That is your interpretation. It's weird, because we aren't exactly using any specific examples that one could label as absurd. I'm sure some resentment is very much absurd, but other resentment is more well reasoned. Absurd is a pretty subjective term anyways. Resentment is a pretty general concept as well that can be further labeled as all sorts of things depending on the individual and their circumstances. In an extreme example, I wouldn't call it absurd for someone to hold resentment against all dogs if said person was viciously attacked by dogs on numerous occasions as a child and never once exposed to dogs in a friendly context. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:50:25 PM #71 | Twinmold posted... Yeah basically everything you've responded with feels like it could just be restated as "I have little or no empathy for others, I only ever worry or care about myself, I take no responsibility for any societal issues I could have contributed to." Yeah I never once said half the world is inferior or anything like that. Resentment isn't a be all end all that means you hate everyone. I sort of doubt your post is actually in reference to me, because it doesn't seem to have much to do with what I said at all. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:48:19 PM #70 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted... "You have absolutely no idea about anything I think except for the parts where you pointed out exactly what I said." You are getting awfully defensive at this point. You keep responding to my statements individually, but you just keep restating yourself. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | My sister to my mom: "You're only putting in ten [thousand dollars]?" |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:44:03 PM #23 | EternalDivide posted... My god. Should tell everyone what kind of financial problems are in store for your lives when the woman is spending anywhere close to that amount on a damn one day thing. I mean, I get your idea, but I have a hard time understanding the majority of women wanting to go along with this. Trust me, I think weddings are one of the dumbest things ever, but women are just so damn obsessed with them. They are like conditioned from birth to have their lives culminate in this one event. I just don't know how you can properly integrate the reality of weddings being so stupid with the reality that most women strongly disagree with my sentiment on the matter. IDK, my friend got lucky and his wife was happy holding their wedding on her families farm and having some random pizza place cater it. I doubt it cost them more than a couple grand. They do plan to have a very nice honeymoon though, but that will be in a couple years when they are both done with school. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | My sister to my mom: "You're only putting in ten [thousand dollars]?" |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:38:22 PM #21 | apolloooo posted... Lonestar2000 posted...Fuck people who have expensive weddings. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:34:09 PM #65 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Is it a white person's responsibility to understand why a black person may feel resentful towards white people? Does their resentment being shared among other black people indicate that this is a much deeper problem, as in it isn't just an individual problem, but a societal one as well. Would it benefit you as an individual to try and be more understanding of their problem without making any attempt to help them work through their problem. Yeah basically everything you've responded with feels like it could just be restated as "I have little or no empathy for others, I only ever worry or care about myself, I take no responsibility for any societal issues I could have contributed to." I get it. It's very self interested and has absolutely nothing to do with caring about others. You seem to have very little curiosity about other people. Everything is about you to you and other people be damned. Perhaps you just shouldn't ever comment on these types of topics and just stay out of it completely. You seem to think there is no such thing as societal issues and that we are all individuals and it is only us who can solve our own problems. Certainly some truth to it, but I would very much argue that the problem is a lot deeper than that. I didn't create the gender norms our society is run by and neither did you and it effects us all differently and I think there is a lot to be learned by learning about others. You apparently think there is nothing useful about trying to learn about another persons problems. It is a very selfish attitude and one you are entitled to. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:23:39 PM #63 | CanuckCowboy posted... fenderbender321 posted...Because my mom was mean to me when I was a kid. She made me feel like everything was my fault. She didn't understand me. She yelled at me all the time. If I was struggling with anything in life, she'd victimize herself over it. Yeah not every situation is exactly the same. I hope your intent with your statement isn't to shame him for not working through his resentment yet. These things can take time and not everyone is moving at the same rate or have the same amount of issues to work through. Then there is also the fact that interactions with your parents can help shape early interactions with your peers and that can further interact further interactions with future peers and on and on and on. It can be a difficult cycle to break and even be difficult to understand that a cycle even exists. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:19:01 PM #62 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Ok just admit that you are not very willing to understand male resentment towards women at all then. Ok you are clearly just being very stubborn and not making much of an attempt to understand what I'm asking you. Maybe this will help, Is it a white person's responsibility to understand why a black person may feel resentful towards white people? Does their resentment being shared among other black people indicate that this is a much deeper problem, as in it isn't just an individual problem, but a societal one as well? Would it benefit you as an individual to try and be more understanding of their problem without making any attempt to help them work through their problem? You seem to really struggle with the idea that it isn't your responsibility to help anybody with their problems, but it can still be a great benefit to you as an individual if you learn to understand their problems. You basically seem to be arguing against the idea of empathy with the justification that it isn't your responsibility to solve anyone else's problems. Those two things aren't nearly as closely related as you seem to keep stating that they are. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 12:12:16 PM #58 | Darkman124 posted... TommyG663513 posted... Yes me as well. That is why I also have to admit that it is very difficult for me to understand female resentment towards men, but I do have enough sense to know that I shouldn't go on a female dominated internet forum filled with said "types" of women and use pejorative terms to describe these women akin to "neckbeard." At the same time though, I do think it would help both me as an individual to understand these women better and their issues towards men. I think it would improve me by making me more empathetic. Ideally, a person with more empathy can subtlety influence more people to be more empathetic and help society as a whole. This is a way this can be helpful without it ever actually being your responsibility to help said person with resentment issues to work through them. But back to your point, yes I prefer to not really do this and just enjoy the small pleasures of life as it is too short and I don't want to spend a majority or even a large chunk of it trying to understand what I label as "someone else's problem." Though I do also combat that with my desire to learn and understand people. I just have to balance the need between trying to understand others and just focus on my own level of enjoyment in life. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:58:40 AM #54 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...No I asked if it would help and not if it was their responsibility. You have this habit of musing about some tangent and not actually answering the question I asked. Ok just admit that you are not very willing to understand male resentment towards women at all then. Again, you keep dodging my question. I'm talking about this more as a societal issue rather than one at the individual level. You said it yourself that you see a lot of bitter/resentment filled men on CE. Do you think this is purely a problem at the individual level or do you think there are societal causes at play here too? I never once asked about responsibility or actually solving an individuals resentment. I asked if it would help (meaning society as a whole, help you as a person to be more understanding or better able to relate) if you tried to better understand male resentment towards women. I just figure if you tried to understand them better you would shy away from terms like "neckbeard." It is a pejorative term after all. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:53:26 AM #53 | Darkman124 posted... TommyG663513 posted... Yeah the only time I witnessed that type of attitude in women as a current 20something was in my Psychology of Women and Gender class. I imagine that type of attitude only becomes more prevalent in women into their 30's who have not achieved what they want as you stated. It certainly is difficult to understand on a deeper level than "they didn't get what they want, now they must improve." Again, you have stated as much. I guess I'm still trying to figure out why people seem to think it is so ok to label and hate on this "neckbeard" that supposedly has a completely irrational hatred/resentment towards women. The fact that it appears so prevalent implies a societal issue while people who want to judge and dismiss this people seem to think it is almost entirely the fault of each individual with said resentment. We rarely have control over the amount of baggage we receive in life. We just control our reaction to it and not everyone receives the same amount of baggage. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:40:34 AM #49 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Asherlee10 posted...TommyG663513 posted...Asherlee10 posted...ehhwhatever posted...OpheliaAdenade posted...So you all have mommy issues. I guess that makes a lot of sense. No I asked if it would help and not if it was their responsibility. You have this habit of musing about some tangent and not actually answering the question I asked. You said the cause doesn't matter, but the solution. I'm not asking if women should be responsible for solving male resentment. I'm asking if you think it would help if THEY MADE ATTEMPTS TO UNDERSTAND it. There is a big difference between just seeking to understand someone's resentment and helping them to work through it. Your response makes me think you are muddying the waters between the two. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:34:01 AM #47 | Darkman124 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Do you think it would help if women made more attempts to understand male resentment instead of throwing around terms like neckbeard? To be fair, I directly asked this of a woman who just did use the term , but yeah you've still made a fair point. Obviously those women who are avoiding those men are making no attempt to understand them. Not that I entirely blame them for doing so. People want to do the more enjoyable things in life and understanding male resentment towards women typically isn't a pleasant experience. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:27:22 AM #41 | Asherlee10 posted... TommyG663513 posted...Asherlee10 posted...ehhwhatever posted...OpheliaAdenade posted...So you all have mommy issues. I guess that makes a lot of sense. Ok then what need to happen to change it? Do you think it would help if women made more attempts to understand male resentment instead of throwing around terms like neckbeard? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | My friend said that IQ levels don't mean anything |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:24:45 AM #12 | brain_soiled posted... As someone with an above average IQ (please don't read that in a cringe-worthy, neckbeard way. I don't proclaim it often at all.) I have pondered this same thing as well. Kinda makes sense. My higher IQ also seems to be related to my anxiety, depression, overthinking, etc. So while my "average" friends are just getting to work and busting ass without questioning it, I'm just in my head all day pondering life and worthless, philosophical shit and questioning why we even have to work and getting passed up in the meantime. I can see this being more accurate than the default "omg wtf lolol what an idiot" response most would meet it with. Yeah this is called being too smart for your own good. It's more isolating than it is a privilege. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | My friend said that IQ levels don't mean anything |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:23:23 AM #11 | COVxy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted...IQ is the best indicator we have for how successful you will be in life. Yes lol indeed. That is not at all what IQ indicates. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | why do you hate women? |
| TommyG663513 08/01/17 11:20:00 AM #36 | Asherlee10 posted... ehhwhatever posted...OpheliaAdenade posted...So you all have mommy issues. I guess that makes a lot of sense. Do you think this problem you perceive is entirely the fault of men? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
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