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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 402: Thank You Taker!
NBIceman
04/03/17 12:57:30 AM
#15
Apollo_Phoenix posted...
Thoughts on match of the weekend?

I only watched WWE stuff, but I don't think anything topped the NXT Tag Title match. If something from another promotion might have, I'd love to give it a watch

That one's at the top for me so far, had it at ****1/2.

The Pancakes & Piledrivers show I mentioned last topic had one that came very close in Ricochet vs Shane Strickland that I also had at 4 1/2. There's been a hodgepodge of ****1/4s scattered around as well.

I still have quite a few shows to watch, though. Hardyz/Bucks at Supercard of Honor in particular has been getting a lot of buzz and I could easily see that taking the top spot when it's all said and done. I also haven't gotten around to EVOLVE 81, PROGRESS, RPW, Beyond Wrestling, or the Wrestlecon Supershow, and they all have at least one match on them that could easily be a contender.

Fantastic weekend for wrestling.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 402: Thank You Taker!
NBIceman
04/03/17 12:43:59 AM
#9
Taker was just too slow for me. Slow speaking, slow wrestling. I appreciated some of his matches, but he's not like a Top 50 guy for me.


This is where I come out on Taker as well. I also didn't really grow up with him like I know a lot of people did, so there's that.

All the respect in the world, really enjoyed him at times, but this isn't a retirement that hits me near as hard as, say, Danielson's.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 8:08:54 PM
#338
EmDubyaSee posted...
Can we all agree that was the best four or five minute match in history?

KENTA vs Ricky Marvin
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Iceman
TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 8:08:18 PM
#336
StealThisSheen posted...
NBIceman posted...
Cut 30 minutes off this match and it would’ve been solid. Unfortunately, this was the template of HHH big time main events. Overly long and masturabtory. Would we have been able to tell the same story with 5 minutes of knee work? Sure. Instead we got 15. Could we have done with only 100 mentions of Seth Rollins’ injured knee? Sure. Instead we got 550. Fundamentally, the match was fine but you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who didn’t look at their watch a few times during it. Way, way too long for a 5+ hour show. *1/2


...That doesn't sound like a description of a *1/2 match. A ***, maybe.

I mean, if I thought a match was 30 minutes longer than it needed to be, no way in hell would I give it ***.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 8:06:59 PM
#333
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
By the way, HHH/Rollins looks like it's going to be an extremely polarizing match. I see ****3/4 and ***** being thrown around in this topic with **1/4 and *1/2 elsewhere on the internet.



To the 1 1/2 guys.

f*** OFF. Just f*** the f*** off!

2 is AVERAGE. I don't care how much you didn't like the pedigree countwrs. There is no opinion that that match was BELOW average, like worse than a random 8
Minute match on Smackdown.

Pedigree counters didn't seem to be the problem.

Cut 30 minutes off this match and it would’ve been solid. Unfortunately, this was the template of HHH big time main events. Overly long and masturabtory. Would we have been able to tell the same story with 5 minutes of knee work? Sure. Instead we got 15. Could we have done with only 100 mentions of Seth Rollins’ injured knee? Sure. Instead we got 550. Fundamentally, the match was fine but you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who didn’t look at their watch a few times during it. Way, way too long for a 5+ hour show. *1/2


I never looked at my watch or my phone.

It got exactly as long as it needed.

People like him
Hate HUNTER, he even says it.

I know myself and JaKyL have given Trips matches bad scores. But I would bet you that b**** probably never gave a 1 on 1 March Hunter has ever had since 1999 a 3+

He gave Trips/Bryan at WM30 something like 3.25 or 3.5 if I remember correctly but yeah, he certainly doesn't care for him most of the time. Otherwise, though, I think the two of you would actually agree more on wrestling than you might imagine.

Not taking sides on this one as I didn't see the match. Just thought it was interesting there was such a marked difference in opinion right off the bat.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 7:52:53 PM
#302
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
By the way, HHH/Rollins looks like it's going to be an extremely polarizing match. I see ****3/4 and ***** being thrown around in this topic with **1/4 and *1/2 elsewhere on the internet.



To the 1 1/2 guys.

f*** OFF. Just f*** the f*** off!

2 is AVERAGE. I don't care how much you didn't like the pedigree countwrs. There is no opinion that that match was BELOW average, like worse than a random 8
Minute match on Smackdown.

Pedigree counters didn't seem to be the problem.

Cut 30 minutes off this match and it would’ve been solid. Unfortunately, this was the template of HHH big time main events. Overly long and masturabtory. Would we have been able to tell the same story with 5 minutes of knee work? Sure. Instead we got 15. Could we have done with only 100 mentions of Seth Rollins’ injured knee? Sure. Instead we got 550. Fundamentally, the match was fine but you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who didn’t look at their watch a few times during it. Way, way too long for a 5+ hour show. *1/2

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 7:42:34 PM
#275
By the way, HHH/Rollins looks like it's going to be an extremely polarizing match. I see ****3/4 and ***** being thrown around in this topic with **1/4 and *1/2 elsewhere on the internet.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 7:41:20 PM
#271
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
We're never gonna agree on this. And I truly feel I'm right... I want you to tell me, WHAT THE f*** IS THE POINT OF A SUPERCARD THEN?!!!! I'll wait. There is no answer if it doesn't (mainly) close storylines.


To create a big spectacle of a show with big matches

Nowhere does anything say all of those matches have to end storylines


Why are they big if they don't matter?

If it's just a train stop on the way to the real conclusion at Extreme Rules (of god forbid, a random Raw or Smackdown when the rematch clause gets initiated) then what the hell does it matter? Why is it big?

The point of a "supercard" is to put on the best show possible for what is likely the largest audience you'll have all year. Sometimes that involves ending a story, sometimes it doesn't.

And by the way, going strictly off the WK11 example, Omega winning wouldn't have ended the story in the first place. Okada would've been in chase mode and the rivalry wouldn't continued anyhow.


But if it doesn't end the story, why does the audience care, what is so Super about it? That a fake sport tells you it is?

The biggest ones ever got big because they ended damn s***. Or if they didn't, it was a token, and the guy who won easily dispatched them at Backlash or whatever.

The matches themselves make it super. Fans weren't screaming their heads off at Okada/Omega because they anticipated the ending of a story and felt like that made it a big moment. They were screaming because they knew they were watching a special professional wrestling match and it felt like a big moment to them no matter what was to follow after.

You need closure to make things feel big. I don't, and since there are plenty of other fans like me, there's no reason everything should be booked such that it fits into the lens of fans like you. There can always be a balance.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 7:30:44 PM
#251
EmDubyaSee posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
We're never gonna agree on this. And I truly feel I'm right... I want you to tell me, WHAT THE f*** IS THE POINT OF A SUPERCARD THEN?!!!! I'll wait. There is no answer if it doesn't (mainly) close storylines.


To create a big spectacle of a show with big matches

Nowhere does anything say all of those matches have to end storylines


Why are they big if they don't matter?

If it's just a train stop on the way to the real conclusion at Extreme Rules (of god forbid, a random Raw or Smackdown when the rematch clause gets initiated) then what the hell does it matter? Why is it big?

The point of a "supercard" is to put on the best show possible for what is likely the largest audience you'll have all year. Sometimes that involves ending a story, sometimes it doesn't.

And by the way, going strictly off the WK11 example, Omega winning wouldn't have ended the story in the first place. Okada would've been in chase mode and the rivalry wouldn't continued anyhow.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 6:10:43 PM
#161
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
But neither one was meant to be the story's conclusion.



THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!


Why even book Supercards anymore?

Shouldn't the logical conclusions ALWAYS happen at Starcade, or November to Remeber, or Bound for Glory, or WK, or Wrestlemania?

No. That hamstrings storytelling. Sometimes they need to go longer than that kind of booking would allow.

NJPW in particular doesn't necessarily look at WK as a year-ending show. Sometimes it's closer to a beginning.


You have a YEAR. Very very VERY rarely should someone get hot like Punk in 11 where you have to do it right then, not wait till Mania or WK.. but that should hardly ever EVER happen. And it doesn't hamstring storytelling if the Bookers aren't clowns.

Think about what you're saying. You honestly believe the Okada/Tanahashi story would have been half as meaningful if it didn't take four years to reach its apex?

Like, at the time, everyone thought Okada should have won at WK9 and ended the rivalry there. In retrospect, if that would have happened, it wouldn't have been half as good.

There is nothing, NOTHING, in wrestling that should ever be considered a universal booking rule.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 5:42:48 PM
#138
EmDubyaSee posted...
NBIceman posted...
But neither one was meant to be the story's conclusion.



THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!


Why even book Supercards anymore?

Shouldn't the logical conclusions ALWAYS happen at Starcade, or November to Remeber, or Bound for Glory, or WK, or Wrestlemania?

No. That hamstrings storytelling. Sometimes they need to go longer than that kind of booking would allow.

NJPW in particular doesn't necessarily look at WK as a year-ending show. Sometimes it's closer to a beginning.
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TopicWhen's the last time you went an entire week without taking a shower?
NBIceman
04/02/17 5:05:39 PM
#2
I'm fair confident I've never even come close to going a week.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 5:04:00 PM
#121
But neither one was meant to be the story's conclusion.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 4:47:09 PM
#119
I'm a little late to the Aries/Neville discussion but remember MWC was also complaining about Omega losing at WK11. Sometimes his idea of bad booking equates to the guy he wanted to win not winning.

Which is fine, we all do that sometimes.
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Topic(--o) Pokemon of the Year 2017 - TOP 16 - Rd. 6 / FINAL DAY (8/10 Safe) (o--)
NBIceman
04/02/17 4:25:17 PM
#6
+8 Ampharos
+7 Arcanine
+3 Articuno
+5 Charmander
+4 Empoleon
+6 Houndoom
+1 Lucario
+2 Scizor

Come on, Amphy.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 3:04:55 PM
#64
And, I mean, if you're watching WM hoping for good booking, I really don't know what to tell you.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 2:22:57 PM
#49
I'm halfway through the Pro Wrestling Revolver Pancakes and Piledrivers show from yesterday and feel compelled to let everyone know that AR Fox is the worst commentator in the history of professional wrestling.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 9:41:04 AM
#40
That CZW card legitimately looked awesome, though. Looking forward to watching that one.
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TopicCAST IT! - Uncharted (Drake's Fortune - A Thief's End
NBIceman
04/02/17 1:46:15 AM
#9
Shaduln posted...
Nathan Drake - Nathan Fillion

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TopicWhat are some overlooked / underappreciated TV shows?
NBIceman
04/02/17 12:40:46 AM
#6
It's more like the words are open to a fair degree of subjectivity in interpretation.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/02/17 12:25:22 AM
#23
ScareChan posted...
Watching Takeover now


Kassius Ohno's attire is all themed after the Sacramento Kings, including that crown emblem. Is there a reason for it? Because I am forced to show interest for him as a kings fan now >_>

The last few years, he's been using a lot of NBA-themed attire. Had some Bulls, Celtics, and Suns gear that he wore pretty frequently, too, and he even mixed in some college teams every once in a while.

So not really any particular reason, no.
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TopicWhat are some overlooked / underappreciated TV shows?
NBIceman
04/02/17 12:18:39 AM
#3
Yeah, Justified and Legion were the two I came in to mention.

Dollhouse as well, to a certain extent.
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TopicUndertale is overrated
NBIceman
04/01/17 8:57:20 PM
#5
I don't get it, where's the joke?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 401: Aleister Black, The Future Of Ring Of Honor!
NBIceman
04/01/17 8:36:49 PM
#10
Apparently ROH Supercard of Honor set an ROH attendance record tonight.

Rumors of their demise, as usual, have been greatly exaggerated.
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TopicFavorite Song from this Artist Day 35: Phil Collins
NBIceman
04/01/17 8:20:02 PM
#17
Snake5555555555 posted...
In the Air Tonight

Honestly haven't heard much from him though


Nominate:
AFI
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Coheed and Cambria
The Dear Hunter
Porcupine Tree
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Topicextha's Russel Westbrook MVP watch
NBIceman
03/31/17 10:46:08 PM
#48
Not_an_Owl posted...
NBIceman posted...
Kawhi really should get MVP by virtue of being the only real candidate that plays both ways.

But it'll never happen because no one gives a damn about defense in the NBA.

http://deadspin.com/oh-will-you-shut-up-about-defense-already-1793108892

Look at his on-court/off-court numbers, from the NBA’s stats site. When Kawhi’s on the court, the Spurs’ defensive rating (the number of points they give up per 100 possessions) is 103.7, the second-worst among members of San Antonio’s regular rotation. When he’s off the court, it shrinks to an astounding 95.6—they literally play their best defense when the two-time reigning DPOY is on the bench.

Is that because Kawhi’s not actually a good defender? Hell no. He’s a great defender. If you had one final possession to protect a one-point lead in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, you’d almost certainly want Kawhi Leonard defending the ball-handler over anybody else in the entire NBA. No, the Spurs are a better defensive team when he’s off the court because, in general, great individual defense doesn’t actually matter all that much!

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Topic(--o) Pokemon of the Year 2017 - TOP 16 - Rd. 6 / Day FOUR (6/10 Safe) (o--)
NBIceman
03/31/17 10:17:10 PM
#2
+8 Ampharos
+7 Arcanine
+2 Articuno
+3 Charmander
+6 Eevee
+4 Empoleon
+1 Gengar
+5 Houndoom
+0 Lucario
+0 Scizor
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Topicextha's Russel Westbrook MVP watch
NBIceman
03/31/17 9:59:22 PM
#45
Kawhi really should get MVP by virtue of being the only real candidate that plays both ways.

But it'll never happen because no one gives a damn about defense in the NBA.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/31/17 4:27:19 PM
#404
No one's ever been like him? He's gotta be kidding, right?
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TopicIs Breath of the Wild really that good?
NBIceman
03/30/17 8:29:52 PM
#15
Anagram posted...
I would get it on the Wii U and not the Switch, if that matters.

Definitely do it, then. 100% worth it.
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TopicFavorite Song from this Artist Day 33: Muse
NBIceman
03/30/17 8:57:36 AM
#15
Uprising
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 7:06:22 PM
#324
Who cares? NJPW will be dead by this time next year, apparently.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 6:28:59 PM
#311
Jakyl25 posted...
Dave has the breakdown on the Andre entrants in tonight's Observer

it’ll be ten wrestlers from Smackdown, Tyler Breeze, Fandango, Dolph Ziggler, The Usos, Jason Jordan, Chad Gable, Heath Slater, Rhyno and Mojo Rawley. On the Raw side, there will be Braun Strowman, Big Show, Jinder Mahal, Bo Dallas, Goldust, R-Truth, The Shining Stars and Curtis Axel. So there is one spot left for a surprise.


I wonder if maybe that last one is Zayn and he just overlooked it

Seems like I remember VOW mentioning in passing once on their podcast that they got a tip there was going to be a surprise entrant of some kind. I may be misremembering, though.
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TopicFavorite Song from this Artist Day 32: The Eagles
NBIceman
03/29/17 5:16:23 PM
#27
Hotel California

HMs to Wasted Time, Lyin' Eyes, and Desperado
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Topic(-o-) Pokemon of the Year 2017 - TOP 16 - Rd. 6 / Day 2 (2/10 Safe) (-o-)
NBIceman
03/29/17 4:54:04 PM
#15
+8 Ampharos
+5 Arcanine
+0 Articuno
+0 Charmander
+2 Decidueye
+3 Eevee
+1 Empoleon
+4 Espeon
+0 Gengar
+7 Houndoom
+0 Lucario
+0 Mimikyu
+6 Pangoro
+0 Scizor
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:38:38 AM
#286
What predictions have you gotten right, exactly?
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TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:36:23 AM
#64
Or is it possible you just legitimately don't know what you're talking about?

Like, is there any chance at all that there may be more to the game than what you, as a single player, have experienced?
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TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:31:36 AM
#61
Just because you can't get through the game perfectly fine without really digging in to thing like Revenge Values doesn't mean that those things aren't there.

Like, unless you're a speedrunner there's really no reason you would have knowledge of any of the complexities because it's easy and fun enough to get through the game by mashing the X button on every difficulty but Critical. But that's like saying a fighting game has no depth simply because the majority of players only play it at a surface level.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:27:18 AM
#281
voltch posted...
I'm betting than within the next 3 years.

WWE will have bought Arena Mexico during their ventures into that market and bought the tape libraries for NOAH, AJPW and AJW.

They'll also have acquired at least 8 current upper midcard or higher NJPW active guys and since the Lucha Underground contracts will be up by then, they'll also make a sweep of that talent.

Huh.
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TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:22:21 AM
#56
ehhhhhhh it's fun combat I'll say that


Gonna go out on a limb and say you maybe don't understand every facet of how the combat works.

Which is really a good thing considering that it makes it much easier for you to enjoy the dumbed down games that came afterwards.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:20:23 AM
#279
We'll see what happens but I want you all to remember this day when I'm proven right.
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TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:16:58 AM
#54
foolm0r0n posted...
NBIceman posted...
I agree that the prologue had power the first time around, but do you still get that same feeling on replay?

I've replayed it like 4 times and yes. It drags obviously but the very beginning and end is so good. I've never wanted to just jump into playing Sora and fight stuff, though I do wish I could skip right to the 2nd half of Sora where you fight all the Orgs.

I wish they pulled an MGS2 and made Roxas the main character

More power to you, then. I wish it held that same magic for me.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:15:26 AM
#276
The real mistake being made here is assuming that Omega is really going to WWE anytime soon.
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TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 11:10:29 AM
#50
The first two KH games were about fighting and action, though. The gameplay is amazing in 2 if you actually know what you're doing and understand every facet of how the combat works. It's the games after that ruined it.

I agree that the prologue had power the first time around, but do you still get that same feeling on replay? I don't. And even that first time, part of the power was how it made me feel like "yeah, this is all cool, but at this point I'm so damn ready to play as Sora and just fight stuff."
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 10:59:53 AM
#266
Jakyl25 posted...
NBIceman posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Adam Cole maybe <_<

Good Lord, I can conceive of few things more boring in wrestling than a potential Roode/Cole feud.


Full Sail doesn't care. They can chant BAY-BAY to show how knowledgeable they are

(Also Roode would be face and Cole would be heel)

That would help Cole some, I guess, but a lot of his effective heel work comes from PWG where he has total free reign.

And there's not a force on Earth that can make Roode interesting.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride
NBIceman
03/29/17 10:38:02 AM
#261
Jakyl25 posted...
Adam Cole maybe <_<

Good Lord, I can conceive of few things more boring in wrestling than a potential Roode/Cole feud.
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TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 10:35:29 AM
#42
foolm0r0n posted...
pjbasis posted...
mr game design thinks not playing the game is good game design?

There's a TON of stuff you can do in the medium of games than just fighting things and "fun". KH2's opening explores a lot of those alternate interactions and emotions. "Not playing the game" is such a basic and outdated way to look at it, which is why it was ahead of its time.

Sora's first few parts are so disappointing and unmemorable in comparison since it just goes back to the basic formula. Like I don't remember anything about it beyond his old clothes being tiny on him.

I don't know near enough about game design to comment from that perspective, but speaking purely as a player, the basic formula of the first couple KH games doesn't bother me, because it's a fun formula.

I give the prologue credit for trying something different, and like I said, on a first playthrough it held my attention because the story was presented in an interesting way that made me want to play more. When I go back to the game now, though, I know the story, and I'm playing exclusively for the sake of enjoying the gameplay. And for me, that means I want to get into the deep combat that the game has to offer. The Roxas portion doesn't have that. It's just busy work, and it's not fun no matter how innovative or creative it is.
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TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 9:25:54 AM
#31
ninkendo posted...
I remember enjoying KH2's opening

It's fine the first time but horrible on replays.
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Iceman
TopicGod, I forgot how garbage the intro of Kingdom Hearts is.
NBIceman
03/29/17 6:58:56 AM
#18
pjbasis posted...
Eh I always liked Traverse Town and the early worlds.
Taking so long to get Cure is kind of annoying though.

KHII's opening is just horrible because you just don't even play the game for 5 hours.

Yeah, this. I love the beginning of KH, really.
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Iceman
TopicFavorite Song from this Artist Day 31: U2
NBIceman
03/28/17 8:40:32 PM
#42
Sunday Bloody Sunday
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