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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:37:38 PM
#381
It really says a lot that the people who still support Biden are putting more energy into convincing people to turn a blind eye to him supporting genocide than they are into putting pressure on Biden to stop supporting genocide.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:34:00 PM
#378
Umbreon posted...
We all should push someone eligible from CE to become President. They can totally hypothetically defeat both candidates.
A randomly selected CEman has a 99.99% chance of being better than Trump and at least an 85% or so chance of being better than Biden.

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TopicSchools banning words? wtf
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04/03/24 4:32:50 PM
#7
Aside from swear words, I don't think so (and high school even let mild swears slip; anything less than "shit" was generally fine). There was one particular teacher who hated the word "stuff" but that wasn't a schoolwide thing.

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TopicGeneric/store brand products that you really like?
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04/03/24 4:31:41 PM
#12
The store brand soy milk from PaknSave / New World is far better than all but the fanciest of branded ones.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:28:59 PM
#374
Tanthalas posted...
Yes, people who vote Biden are indeed much less responsible for what Trump does if Trump wins. That is indeed how reality works.
Yeah, there is no reason to believe you're posting in good faith at this point. Fuck off.

(Read what he was replying to if this post seems weird.)

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:23:37 PM
#367
Tanthalas posted...
If your actions help Trump win, then you helped Trump win.
Yet again, you're claiming that those who don't take any action are responsible for what happens if Trump wins, yet those who actively supported Biden are free of responsibility for the outcome if he wins.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:21:34 PM
#363
mistymermaid posted...
Way to ignore corporate donors propping up the status quo.
Corporate donors still only get one vote each. If everyone else doesn't vote with them, their candidate does not win. It's fucking exhausting seeing how blinded Americans are to this.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:19:38 PM
#359
Umbreon posted...
Third party couldn't even do anything in 2016, with the two least popular candidates.

Again, Glass Joe isn't going to win.
And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome.

If your two big options are both shit, you PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. Not make excuses for the slightly less shit one.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:18:15 PM
#358
Tanthalas posted...
Because the party you want to help win is obstructing sending aid to Ukraine.
Yet again, I have not once indicated support for Republicans, and have said on multiple occasions that they are worse. I just don't accept "one other option is worse" as grounds to justify voting for a literal supporter of genocide.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:16:32 PM
#355
Heineken14 posted...
What's your face when Trump wins and does worse shit over there and then rat fucks America again over here?
If Americans continue to pretend that these two are the only options that exist, and accept the support those two have for Israel, then it's hard to argue that Americans didn't bring the outcome on themself.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:10:31 PM
#341
Tanthalas posted...
Israel was attacked and the US has a duty to support them.
Israel being attacked does not justify a genocide that was already underway before said attack and hugely ramped up afterwards. And the US has no duty to support even legitimate self-defense (to be clear I'm not saying they shouldn't do so, just that they have no obligation), let alone what Israel is doing now (and if they did have such a duty, they'd owe it FAR more to Ukraine, yet the aid being provided to them is fuck all in comparison).

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:07:05 PM
#331
Heineken14 posted...
In what real world version of American presidential elections are there anything other than 2 outcomes?
Show me what part of the constitution or federal law says that a third party's victory would be invalid.

Because it seems to me that nothing is actually preventing it; Americans just refuse to acknowledge the option exists.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 4:03:40 PM
#326
bobbycorwin posted...
You can see the tracks. Its not like there is a third track that will magically appear if you squint hard enough.
I can see a drawing of the tracks which the person trying to manipulate the perception of things can choose what they do or don't include on it. In the real world situation, there would be multiple other tracks that the artist chose not to include in their recreation because they want to convince people those tracks don't exist; because despite their preferred track having some serious known flaws, they can't bear the thought of any other track being taken. Not even a better one.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 3:59:05 PM
#317
Tanthalas posted...
First, saying that Biden is supporting genocide is simply false.
He's providing military aid to a country that is borderline-openly engaging in genocide, using the military aid they have been provided.

There is no fucking way in hell that that can be interpreted as anything other than supporting genocide.

If you aren't willing to acknowledge something as simple as that, you are not worth engaging on this subject.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 3:55:38 PM
#304
ellis123 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5393f05a.jpg
I don't approach the situation with a mentality of "I really like this one track regardless of what harm comes from taking it, so I'm going to pretend the only other tracks that exist are the even worse ones".

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 3:52:27 PM
#297
Tanthalas posted...
If Trump wins because you didn't vote or voted third party, you helped him win. Pretending that you're not helping him win by doing that is a red herring.
So if Israel continues to commit genocide, those who actively voted for (and encouraged others to vote for) a candidate who supported them are not responsible for it... But people who don't vote for either candidate are somehow responsible for what the winner does but only if the winner is the Republican guy?

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 3:46:41 PM
#287
mistymermaid posted...
I shouldn't have to remind people which party wants to restrict voting rights, deny election results, overturn outcomes they don't like, and conduct an insurrection to install their candidate as a dictator.
And yet again, no one is supporting that party either, so this is a red herring.

When there's an election held in which you vote against rather than vote for people, it is very likely most if not all of these people will be voting against Trump. But that's not how elections in reality work. They involve voting for someone, and a lot of people are not willing to vote for someone who is actively facilitating a genocide, even if they would be willing to vote against one or more of the other options in a vote-against election.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 3:27:12 PM
#278
Yazarogi posted...
what an incredibly ignorant thing to say.
Are you trying to suggest you're not actually advocating support for Biden, or are you trying to suggest Biden is not facilitating a genocide?

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 3:23:57 PM
#276
Yazarogi posted...
Just say you want Trump in power and an even more horrible outcome for Palastine.
Just say you want Biden in power and are at best willing to turn a blind eye to what happens to Palestine as a result.

Unlike the people you're accusing of supporting Trump (who actually support neither Trump nor Biden), you are actually advocating support for a candidate who is facilitating a genocide.

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TopicIsrael intentionally targeted WCK workers
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04/03/24 3:11:41 PM
#82
LonelyStoner posted...
You cant even criticize Biden on this board without someone saying But Trump!

They're both bad candidates and we need better.
You already have other options. What you (collectively, not you personally necessarily) need is to realize these options exist and the only thing preventing them winning is you all refusing to vote for anything besides either the guy the Republicans tell you to vote for or the guy the Democrats tell you to vote for.

A vote for either of these two is, more than anything, a vote to keep that status quo of pretending other options don't exist.

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TopicIsrael/Palestina War XIV - The Big Attack on Rafah?
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04/03/24 2:54:29 PM
#114
Scardude posted...
Are you saying this with Trump handling the pandamic or Biden? I didn't know which one you are referring to.
It's pretty obvious he's talking about Biden, given that Biden is the one the post he was quoting referred to as "compassionate" and the post in question was already critical of Trump.

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TopicIsrael intentionally targeted WCK workers
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04/03/24 2:38:34 AM
#64
videospirit posted...
This sounds psychotic. Did you even spend the time to imagine what would happen if you completely disarmed Israel?

Because thinking of what would happen and than going "Yeah, that sounds great" is psychotic.
Maybe Israel should have thought about that before abusing their military then.

At any rate, I'm far more concerned about the ongoing real world genocide than I am about the fantasy one Israel supporters claim (mostly using Israeli propaganda as their "evidence") will happen if Israel are forced to stop their one. We need to deal with what's actually happening now before we worry what might happen in the future.

And on that note, I never said a neutral peacekeeping force cannot be present. Just that Israel themself cannot remain militarized. Heck, I'm very close to convinced Israel as a nation cannot even be allowed to continue existing at this point (and that does NOT mean harming the civilians; it means booting out the government and military and replacing it with a neutral or non-Hamas Palestinian one such as the PA).

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TopicIsrael/Palestina War XIV - The Big Attack on Rafah?
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04/03/24 2:34:41 AM
#99
CommonStar posted...
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1775261427076649019
Honestly, we barely need investigations to confirm it at this point. There's zero reason to believe anything else.

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TopicDo u think Israel is going to cost Biden the election?
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04/03/24 12:02:18 AM
#93
It's a very real possibility, and it's what he deserves (or at least, the start of it; ideally jail would be next). The part that sucks is Americans being so shit scared of third parties that their preferred alternative is someone even worse, rather than someone better.

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TopicIsrael/Palestina War XIV - The Big Attack on Rafah?
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04/02/24 11:58:03 PM
#94
ZechtAurion posted...
How long till they blow up this bird's nest?

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bu01co/a_bird_single_handedly_removing_a_flag/
Lol @ all the removed comments (and the few they missed)

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TopicIsrael intentionally targeted WCK workers
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04/02/24 10:17:08 PM
#48
Israel must be demilitarized. No ifs, ands or buts. It's the country scale equivalent to how you don't let a mentally unstable person with a history of violence own a gun, even if force is necessary to remove guns from their possession, even if they claim (validly or otherwise) to have a self-defense need for it.

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TopicMan taking craps are annoying and messy.
Trumble
04/02/24 10:11:37 PM
#4
Yeah but it's thanks to craps that we are able to fart so be thankful for that.

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TopicWhen has a man 'lost their virginity'?
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04/02/24 10:10:52 PM
#36
I've always understood it to refer to full-on penetration. Never heard of "without protection" being a qualifier though.

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TopicOnly 18 more days till the most annoying unofficial holiday of the year.
Trumble
04/02/24 7:38:18 PM
#17
Jiek_Fafn posted...
I was recently modded for telling someone to shut the fuck up. I'm tempted to double down
Contest it. Shut the fuck up is not moddable. (Neither is fuck off. On the other hand, fuck you or go fuck yourself are.)

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TopicYou get $150,000 from an inheritance, how long can you make that last?
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04/02/24 7:37:07 PM
#49
If I'm living off the inheritance alone, probably 4-5 years. Maybe a bit more if I really put in effort to stretch it.

If I can still get income from other sources too, I probably won't even need to touch it any time soon and it'll just be earning interest.

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TopicFinally off my 6 month suspension!
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04/02/24 6:34:27 PM
#50
Miquella posted...
Why would that even be moddable, let alone land him in purgatory?

I also saw the post in question and all he did was say that he didn't do anything wrong.
Mods are really arbitrary about when posts like that are or aren't allowed. To me it seems like the kind of thing where a mod should call out his bullshit, rather than moderating him, tbh.

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Topic''Who is this for'' and ''No one asked for this'' are just the dumbest criticism
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04/02/24 4:09:47 PM
#8
VeggetaX posted...
I always felt ''No one asked for this'' is kinda narcissistic because the person is implying he's speaking for everyone and everyone is agreeing with him.
"No one" or "everyone" is rarely literal in these kind of statements. It's more to imply that the people who do/don't are so few that it may as well be no one / everyone.

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TopicSilksong got a new XBox store page, along with an ESRB rating.
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04/02/24 5:43:29 AM
#4
If nothing else, it shows that they haven't abandoned it at least.

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TopicVegy (M) holy shit!!
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04/02/24 2:10:19 AM
#38
Kradek posted...
Damn, I just learned about Cael the other day thanks to Trumble sharing the thread about being the worst cook, however I thought it was just an April Fool's joke. I thought the solidarity of the mods nominating Cael was some sort of running gag, now it seems like he's been a legitimate thorn in their side all these years and they just naturally coalesce against him.

I've never been this intrigued about anything mod related before.
The cooking thing being a running gag (especially when he got in on it himself) and other mods not liking him are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

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TopicIsrael/Palestina War XIV - The Big Attack on Rafah?
Trumble
04/02/24 2:09:01 AM
#79
CommonStar posted...
For the people that continue to doubt the Gaza Ministry of Health numbers for some reason, despite it having a pretty good track record even prior to Oct 7th.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3w4w7/israeli-intelligence-health-ministry-death-toll
No one has a genuine reason to doubt the numbers; it's just another case of "if it makes us look bad, pretend it doesn't exist".

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TopicIs it disrespectful to choose not to divulge your own pronouns?
Trumble
04/01/24 10:16:07 PM
#32
No; but you do lose the right to be offended at people for getting them wrong if you're refusing to disclose what the right ones are. No matter how obvious you feel it should be. It's also going to come across as quite petty if you're specifically asked and refuse to answer.

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TopicVegy (M) holy shit!!
Trumble
04/01/24 10:15:01 PM
#35
Trumble posted...
Wait, it's not just an April fools thing?

My first reaction was to check if all mods were showing as Banned but even when they weren't I kinda just assumed it was only some.
Okay, I think it's safe to assume he'd be unbanned by now if that was all it was... Now I'm curious. "That site" doesn't show anything worse than maybe extremely mild trolling so... must be mod abuse or hacking I guess? Unless the other mods just finally got sick of his cooking.

(Disclaimer, this is all guesswork, I don't have access to any info that other non-mods don't.)

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TopicIsrael/Palestina War XIV - The Big Attack on Rafah?
Trumble
04/01/24 10:11:58 PM
#73
CobraGT posted...
IMPENDING ban of Al Jazeera.

I want to correct my previous stance now that I have thought it over.

This impending ban directly effects our news. Al Jazeera now has journalists in Gaza. There are no foreign journalists allowed by Israel. When Al Jazeera is banned, the plan must be to ban the journalists.

Journalism is like any other profession. Amateurs can do it but lack the training, equipment and connections.

News blackout on the way.
If Israel is going out of their way to ban media that doesn't toe their line, the only correct response is to assume every accusation made against Israel is true and every claim favorable to Israel is false, until such time as independent media is allowed access again.

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TopicWhat is something that you just don't get...
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04/01/24 6:06:03 PM
#30
cjsdowg posted...
I also don't understand that site. (also you might want to censer that, they were modding people for that. Anywho you can find almost anything that you want online so someone already did it. So there is no need to pay for it. Hell with more and more AI art thing coming out you can even make it yourself .
Saying the names of porn sites is no longer moddable in and of itself.

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TopicWhat is something that you just don't get...
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04/01/24 5:42:47 PM
#19
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You pay half a six pack price or more for a single drink at a bar here. Not really that much cheaper.

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TopicWhat is something that you just don't get...
Trumble
04/01/24 5:40:49 PM
#17
Physical media.

I have relatively shit internet (and had even worse in the past), digital is still more convenient to going to a store or waiting on a delivery and having to mess around with discs. Servers go down someday? I have no problem pirating the game I legitimately bought anyway, if I really want to replay it.

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TopicVegy (M) holy shit!!
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04/01/24 5:36:42 PM
#31
Wait, it's not just an April fools thing?

My first reaction was to check if all mods were showing as Banned but even when they weren't I kinda just assumed it was only some.

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TopicDoes "sock" rhyme with "hawk"?
Trumble
04/01/24 4:17:12 PM
#93
HashtagSEP posted...
They still pronounce it "boys," but it's written/spelled Boyz.
...these are pronounced the same, at least for me. The only time I pronounce a plural s like s rather than z is if it's after an unvoiced consonant.

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TopicIsrael/Palestina War XIV - The Big Attack on Rafah?
Trumble
04/01/24 4:09:01 PM
#60
tankboy posted...
It is really terrible. But we don't need to expose our ignorance of history to make the point.
You do realize they said "in the last 50 years" right?

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TopicUS approves 1,800 2k-pound bombs to Israel as Rafah invasion looms
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04/01/24 3:49:37 PM
#274
Shadow_Don posted...
Doubly so if one of those people is a self admitted accelerationist and hamas supporter.
Oh no, you found one Hamas supporter on a relatively small online community, who was quickly condemned by everyone and then suspended, guess that makes everything Biden does okay! /s

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TopicWhat do you think happens after you die?
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04/01/24 3:42:38 PM
#22
XxKrazyChaosxX posted...
You crap your pants.


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