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Yazarogi 04/03/24 4:14:47 PM #350:	MrMojoRising posted... "I can't believe Biden let him win because he wanted to help a genocide so bad" Man you sure do love shooting yourself in the foot. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:979713732] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>"I can't believe Biden let him win because he wanted to help a genocide so bad"</quote>Man you sure do love shooting yourself in the foot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 4:15:15 PM #351:	Tanthalas posted... So we're back to: "Why aren't you asking the GOP to be better then? Why is it always the Democratic Party that has to work for your vote?" Hornezz posted... Because I have no hope of successfully arguing to Republicans that killing brown children by the thousands is actually bad and should be resisted. I'd like to think Democrats agree with that but I might be wrong. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979713741] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>So we're back to: "Why aren't you asking the GOP to be better then? Why is it always the Democratic Party that has to work for your vote?"</quote><cite>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Because I have no hope of successfully arguing to Republicans that killing brown children by the thousands is actually bad and should be resisted. I'd like to think Democrats agree with that but I might be wrong.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/03/24 4:15:49 PM #352:	Yazarogi posted... Man you sure do love shooting yourself in the foot. This is also what I said when Biden went around congress to- Lol, these are too easy --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979713753] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yazarogi posted... </cite><quote>Man you sure do love shooting yourself in the foot.</quote>This is also what I said when Biden went around congress to- Lol, these are too easy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 4:15:59 PM #353:	MrMojoRising posted... "I can't believe Biden let him win because he wanted to help a genocide so bad" https://imgur.com/eoLFa4s.jpg --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979713759] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>"I can't believe Biden let him win because he wanted to help a genocide so bad"</quote>https://imgur.com/eoLFa4s.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tanthalas 04/03/24 4:16:10 PM #354:	Trumble posted... Israel being attacked does not justify a genocide that was already underway before said attack and hugely ramped up afterwards. And the US has no duty to support even legitimate self-defense (to be clear I'm not saying they shouldn't do so, just that they have no obligation), let alone what Israel is doing now (and if they did have such a duty, they'd owe it FAR more to Ukraine, yet the aid being provided to them is fuck all in comparison). Guess why Ukraine isn't getting more aid! Because the party you want to help win is obstructing sending aid to Ukraine. And no dude, the US does indeed have a duty to help their allies when they're attacked. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". <cite>Tanthalas posted [p:979713765] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Israel being attacked does not justify a genocide that was already underway before said attack and hugely ramped up afterwards. And the US has no duty to support even legitimate self-defense (to be clear I'm not saying they shouldn't do so, just that they have no obligation), let alone what Israel is doing now (and if they did have such a duty, they'd owe it FAR more to Ukraine, yet the aid being provided to them is fuck all in comparison).</quote>Guess why Ukraine isn't getting more aid! Because the party you want to help win is obstructing sending aid to Ukraine.And no dude, the US does indeed have a duty to help their allies when they're attacked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:16:32 PM #355:	Heineken14 posted... What's your face when Trump wins and does worse shit over there and then rat fucks America again over here? If Americans continue to pretend that these two are the only options that exist, and accept the support those two have for Israel, then it's hard to argue that Americans didn't bring the outcome on themself. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979713772] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>What's your face when Trump wins and does worse shit over there and then rat fucks America again over here?</quote>If Americans continue to pretend that these two are the only options that exist, and accept the support those two have for Israel, then it's hard to argue that Americans didn't bring the outcome on themself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/03/24 4:16:40 PM #356:	Heineken14 posted... In what real world version of American presidential elections are there anything other than 2 outcomes? There's a Senate and House that's also voted on. The outcomes can be wildly different between a Democrat with a supermajority and just a majority. Do you remember how important it was for the Democrats to win two Georgia Senate seats in 2020? Biden would have been in a much worse spot without a Senate majority for reconciliation bills and judge appointments. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979713775] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted...</cite><quote>In what real world version of American presidential elections are there anything other than 2 outcomes?</quote>There's a Senate and House that's also voted on. The outcomes can be wildly different between a Democrat with a supermajority and just a majority.Do you remember how important it was for the Democrats to win two Georgia Senate seats in 2020? Biden would have been in a much worse spot without a Senate majority for reconciliation bills and judge appointments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 4:17:57 PM #357:	Trumble posted... If Americans continue to pretend that these two are the only options that exist, and accept the support those two have for Israel, then it's hard to argue that Americans didn't bring the outcome on themself. Third party couldn't even do anything in 2016, with the two least popular candidates. Again, Glass Joe isn't going to win. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979713803] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>If Americans continue to pretend that these two are the only options that exist, and accept the support those two have for Israel, then it's hard to argue that Americans didn't bring the outcome on themself.</quote>Third party couldn't even do anything in 2016, with the two least popular candidates. Again, Glass Joe isn't going to win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:18:15 PM #358:	Tanthalas posted... Because the party you want to help win is obstructing sending aid to Ukraine. Yet again, I have not once indicated support for Republicans, and have said on multiple occasions that they are worse. I just don't accept "one other option is worse" as grounds to justify voting for a literal supporter of genocide. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979713811] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>Because the party you want to help win is obstructing sending aid to Ukraine.</quote>Yet again, I have not once indicated support for Republicans, and have said on multiple occasions that they are worse. I just don't accept "one other option is worse" as grounds to justify voting for a literal supporter of genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:19:38 PM #359:	Umbreon posted... Third party couldn't even do anything in 2016, with the two least popular candidates. Again, Glass Joe isn't going to win. And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome. If your two big options are both shit, you PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. Not make excuses for the slightly less shit one. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979713831] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Third party couldn't even do anything in 2016, with the two least popular candidates. Again, Glass Joe isn't going to win.</quote>And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome.If your two big options are both shit, you PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. Not make excuses for the slightly less shit one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 04/03/24 4:20:21 PM #360:	Trumble posted... And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome. Way to ignore corporate donors propping up the status quo. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:979713839] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome.</quote>Way to ignore corporate donors propping up the status quo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 4:20:23 PM #361:	Hornezz posted... All great arguments to tell Biden he needs to do anything he can to win voters to his side. Biden should not need to win your vote when the only other candidate is a fascist. I do not understand why you cannot grasp this. If you choose to not vote for the not-fascist, you are complicit in voting in the fascist. I am not a child and am capable of seeing the bigger picture. Hornezz posted... We're back in the same 'but Trump worse'-loop and ignoring the part that Biden's refusal to budge on Israel is actually what's bringing a Trump win closer. Not one person ITT thinks that his handling of Gaza is a win in his favor. Moderates who love Israel probably consider it a boon, if anything. Standing up to those no good Hamas. Also - See my earlier post about not being cool with a complicit rise to fascism. Trump is that fucked no matter how you dress it up as "not worth considering" --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979713840] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>All great arguments to tell Biden he needs to do anything he can to win voters to his side.</quote>Biden should not need to win your vote when the only other candidate is a fascist. I do not understand why you cannot grasp this. If you choose to not vote for the not-fascist, you are complicit in voting in the fascist. I am not a child and am capable of seeing the bigger picture. <cite>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>We're back in the same 'but Trump worse'-loop and ignoring the part that Biden's refusal to budge on Israel is actually what's bringing a Trump win closer.</quote>Not one person ITT thinks that his handling of Gaza is a win in his favor. Moderates who love Israel probably consider it a boon, if anything. Standing up to those no good Hamas.Also - See my earlier post about not being cool with a complicit rise to fascism. Trump is that fucked no matter how you dress it up as "not worth considering" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tanthalas 04/03/24 4:21:13 PM #362:	Trumble posted... Yet again, I have not once indicated support for Republicans, and have said on multiple occasions that they are worse. I just don't accept "one other option is worse" as grounds to justify voting for a literal supporter of genocide. If your actions help Trump win, then you helped Trump win. The world isn't the fairy tail you keep pretending that it is where you'll magically have a candidate that does everything you want. So yeah, "one option is worse" is indeed more than enough justification to vote for the "lesser evil". --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". <cite>Tanthalas posted [p:979713852] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Yet again, I have not once indicated support for Republicans, and have said on multiple occasions that they are worse. I just don't accept "one other option is worse" as grounds to justify voting for a literal supporter of genocide.</quote>If your actions help Trump win, then you helped Trump win.The world isn't the fairy tail you keep pretending that it is where you'll magically have a candidate that does everything you want.So yeah, "one option is worse" is indeed more than enough justification to vote for the "lesser evil". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:21:34 PM #363:	mistymermaid posted... Way to ignore corporate donors propping up the status quo. Corporate donors still only get one vote each. If everyone else doesn't vote with them, their candidate does not win. It's fucking exhausting seeing how blinded Americans are to this. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979713858] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>mistymermaid posted... </cite><quote>Way to ignore corporate donors propping up the status quo.</quote>Corporate donors still only get one vote each. If everyone else doesn't vote with them, their candidate does not win. It's fucking exhausting seeing how blinded Americans are to this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/03/24 4:22:44 PM #364:	Trumble posted... And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome. If your two big options are both shit, you PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. Not make excuses for the slightly less shit one. Sir you have brain cancer the options are surgery or die Trumble: uhhh no thanks ill go to my crystal healer --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979713874] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome.If your two big options are both shit, you PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. Not make excuses for the slightly less shit one.</quote>Sir you have brain cancer the options are surgery or dieTrumble: uhhh no thanks ill go to my crystal healer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 4:23:18 PM #365:	Trumble posted... And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome. If your two big options are both shit, you PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. Not make excuses for the slightly less shit one. I remember voting 3rd party in 2016. Turns out it didn't do shit. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979713889] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>And Americans will have no one but themselves to blame for the outcome.If your two big options are both shit, you PICK A DIFFERENT ONE. Not make excuses for the slightly less shit one.</quote>I remember voting 3rd party in 2016.Turns out it didn't do shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/03/24 4:23:34 PM #366:	Cemith posted... Biden should not need to win your vote when the only other candidate is a fascist. Biden is complicit in genocide. He's also a fascist. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979713894] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted...</cite><quote>Biden should not need to win your vote when the only other candidate is a fascist.</quote>Biden is complicit in genocide. He's also a fascist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:23:37 PM #367:	Tanthalas posted... If your actions help Trump win, then you helped Trump win. Yet again, you're claiming that those who don't take any action are responsible for what happens if Trump wins, yet those who actively supported Biden are free of responsibility for the outcome if he wins. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979713896] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>If your actions help Trump win, then you helped Trump win.</quote>Yet again, you're claiming that those who don't take any action are responsible for what happens if Trump wins, yet those who actively supported Biden are free of responsibility for the outcome if he wins. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tanthalas 04/03/24 4:23:55 PM #368:	Hornezz posted... Because I have no hope of successfully arguing to Republicans that killing brown children by the thousands is actually bad and should be resisted. I'd like to think Democrats agree with that but I might be wrong. And around and around we go. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". <cite>Tanthalas posted [p:979713901] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote><quote>Hornezz posted...Because I have no hope of successfully arguing to Republicans that killing brown children by the thousands is actually bad and should be resisted. I'd like to think Democrats agree with that but I might be wrong.</quote>And around and around we go. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/03/24 4:24:15 PM #369:	ButteryMales posted... He's also a fascist. XD Bro the online left has broken so many people --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979713906] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>He's also a fascist.</quote>XDBro the online left has broken so many people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tanthalas 04/03/24 4:26:39 PM #370:	Trumble posted... Yet again, you're claiming that those who don't take any action are responsible for what happens if Trump wins, yet those who actively supported Biden are free of responsibility for the outcome if he wins. Yes, people who vote Biden are indeed much less responsible for what Trump does if Trump wins. That is indeed how reality works. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". <cite>Tanthalas posted [p:979713952] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Yet again, you're claiming that those who don't take any action are responsible for what happens if Trump wins, yet those who actively supported Biden are free of responsibility for the outcome if he wins.</quote>Yes, people who vote Biden are indeed much less responsible for what Trump does if Trump wins. That is indeed how reality works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsuprised_Pika 04/03/24 4:27:15 PM #371:	Trumble posted... Yet again, I have not once indicated support for Republicans, and have said on multiple occasions that they are worse. I just don't accept "one other option is worse" as grounds to justify voting for a literal supporter of genocide. This is because you are being selfish and soothing your consience through ineffectual grandstanding is more important then the actual results to you. You would readily bathe in the blood of LGBTQ+ people and all the others Trump will harm as long as you get to flaunt your supposed moral superiority. --- I post clips of my cool, stupid and glitchy MH Sunbreak and Tears of the Kingdom gameplay here just for fun. https://youtube.com/user/linkachu1000 <cite>Unsuprised_Pika posted [p:979713962] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Yet again, I have not once indicated support for Republicans, and have said on multiple occasions that they are worse. I just don't accept "one other option is worse" as grounds to justify voting for a literal supporter of genocide.</quote>This is because you are being selfish and soothing your consience through ineffectual grandstanding is more important then the actual results to you.You would readily bathe in the blood of LGBTQ+ people and all the others Trump will harm as long as you get to flaunt your supposed moral superiority. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 04/03/24 4:28:03 PM #372:	Shadow_Don posted... XD Bro the online left has broken so many people It's sad, hilariously sad. Republicans believe Democrats are the "far left" and fascists. (Democrats are far to the left compared to the GOP, but they're not what this board calls the far left) --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:979713974] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>XDBro the online left has broken so many people</quote>It's sad, hilariously sad. Republicans believe Democrats are the "far left" and fascists.(Democrats are far to the left compared to the GOP, but they're not what this board calls the far left) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/03/24 4:28:41 PM #373:	Shadow_Don posted... XD Bro the online left has broken so many people Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Fascists are most known for committing genocide. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979713987] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted...</cite><quote>XDBro the online left has broken so many people</quote>Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.Fascists are most known for committing genocide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:28:59 PM #374:	Tanthalas posted... Yes, people who vote Biden are indeed much less responsible for what Trump does if Trump wins. That is indeed how reality works. Yeah, there is no reason to believe you're posting in good faith at this point. Fuck off. (Read what he was replying to if this post seems weird.) --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979713991] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>Yes, people who vote Biden are indeed much less responsible for what Trump does if Trump wins. That is indeed how reality works.</quote>Yeah, there is no reason to believe you're posting in good faith at this point. Fuck off.(Read what he was replying to if this post seems weird.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 04/03/24 4:29:30 PM #375:	MrMojoRising posted... "I can't believe Biden let him win because he wanted to help a genocide so bad" You don't give a fuck about Palestine or Palestinians. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979713996] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>"I can't believe Biden let him win because he wanted to help a genocide so bad"</quote>You don't give a fuck about Palestine or Palestinians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 4:30:31 PM #376:	ButteryMales posted... Biden is complicit in genocide. Yes. ButteryMales posted... He's also a fascist. No. Trump has said out loud that he will be a dictator for a day. Biden will not. If you are unable to see the difference, you are not a person that can be reasoned with. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714015] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Biden is complicit in genocide.</quote>Yes.ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>He's also a fascist.</quote>No. Trump has said out loud that he will be a dictator for a day. Biden will not.If you are unable to see the difference, you are not a person that can be reasoned with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 4:32:55 PM #377:	We all should push someone eligible from CE to become President. They can totally hypothetically defeat both candidates. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979714050] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>We all should push someone eligible from CE to become President. They can totally hypothetically defeat both candidates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:34:00 PM #378:	Umbreon posted... We all should push someone eligible from CE to become President. They can totally hypothetically defeat both candidates. A randomly selected CEman has a 99.99% chance of being better than Trump and at least an 85% or so chance of being better than Biden. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714075] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>We all should push someone eligible from CE to become President. They can totally hypothetically defeat both candidates.</quote>A randomly selected CEman has a 99.99% chance of being better than Trump and at least an 85% or so chance of being better than Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/03/24 4:35:26 PM #379:	It's not a morality contest really. Choosing to openly support Israel in what is arguably the world's most publicized genocide is going to do irreparable harm the the United States. On that basis alone Biden failed on his mandate to the American people. But if insulting me makes anyone feel better for voting for a genocider, I guess do what makes you happy? --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979714101] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>It's not a morality contest really. Choosing to openly support Israel in what is arguably the world's most publicized genocide is going to do irreparable harm the the United States. On that basis alone Biden failed on his mandate to the American people. But if insulting me makes anyone feel better for voting for a genocider, I guess do what makes you happy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 4:37:20 PM #380:	Trumble posted... If Americans continue to pretend that these two are the only options that exist, and accept the support those two have for Israel, then it's hard to argue that Americans didn't bring the outcome on themself. Not only do you now have to invent these mystery candidates that don't bother running for republican/democrat but now you have to overcome the fact that our presidential elections don't favor more than 2 parties. So we're back to sunshine and lolipops. Shit in 1 hand and wish in the other and all that. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714127] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>If Americans continue to pretend that these two are the only options that exist, and accept the support those two have for Israel, then it's hard to argue that Americans didn't bring the outcome on themself.</quote>Not only do you now have to invent these mystery candidates that don't bother running for republican/democrat but now you have to overcome the fact that our presidential elections don't favor more than 2 parties. So we're back to sunshine and lolipops. Shit in 1 hand and wish in the other and all that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:37:38 PM #381:	It really says a lot that the people who still support Biden are putting more energy into convincing people to turn a blind eye to him supporting genocide than they are into putting pressure on Biden to stop supporting genocide. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714134] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>It really says a lot that the people who still support Biden are putting more energy into convincing people to turn a blind eye to him supporting genocide than they are into putting pressure on Biden to stop supporting genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 4:37:40 PM #382:	MrMojoRising posted... It's not a morality contest really. /shrug that's what you're making it. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714135] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>It's not a morality contest really.</quote>/shrug that's what you're making it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/03/24 4:38:28 PM #383:	Cemith posted... Yes. No. Trump has said out loud that he will be a dictator for a day. Biden will not. If you are unable to see the difference, you are not a person that can be reasoned with. I didn't say they're the same fascist. Biden is complicit in genocide so he's a fascist. You're the one who can't be reasoned if you believe genocide doesn't make someone a fascist. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979714147] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted...</cite><quote>Yes.No. Trump has said out loud that he will be a dictator for a day. Biden will not.If you are unable to see the difference, you are not a person that can be reasoned with.</quote>I didn't say they're the same fascist. Biden is complicit in genocide so he's a fascist. You're the one who can't be reasoned if you believe genocide doesn't make someone a fascist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 4:38:43 PM #384:	Cemith posted... Not one person ITT thinks that his handling of Gaza is a win in his favor. Moderates who love Israel probably consider it a boon, if anything. Standing up to those no good Hamas. I think you're really underestimating the disapproval of Bidens handling of this conflict. According to an AP/NORC poll 70% of dems under the age 45 disapprove of his handling of Israel, and 60% of non-white dem voters. These are the groups most likely to stay home. (And this poll result was from before the recent billions of dollars arms sales) Now of course you can just tell these groups that Biden doesn't need to win them over, and that he's entitled to their vote even if he supports genocide, and that they're complicit in fascism if they take issue with that - but it's incredibly callous to think this is helping him win the election. None of the rhetoric you're sharing ITT is actually helping prevent Trump's fascism. If you do want Biden to win, you should join in on pressuring him to listen to his voters. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714154] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>Not one person ITT thinks that his handling of Gaza is a win in his favor. Moderates who love Israel probably consider it a boon, if anything. Standing up to those no good Hamas.</quote>I think you're really underestimating the disapproval of Bidens handling of this conflict. According to an AP/NORC poll 70% of dems under the age 45 disapprove of his handling of Israel, and 60% of non-white dem voters. These are the groups most likely to stay home. (And this poll result was from before the recent billions of dollars arms sales)Now of course you can just tell these groups that Biden doesn't need to win them over, and that he's entitled to their vote even if he supports genocide, and that they're complicit in fascism if they take issue with that - but it's incredibly callous to think this is helping him win the election.None of the rhetoric you're sharing ITT is actually helping prevent Trump's fascism. If you do want Biden to win, you should join in on pressuring him to listen to his voters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 04/03/24 4:40:49 PM #385:	How does giving republicans power again help Palestine? --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:979714179] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>How does giving republicans power again help Palestine? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 4:44:54 PM #386:	SaikyoStyle posted... How does giving republicans power again help Palestine? It won't. How does arguing that 'sometimes genocide is needed for the greater good' helping Biden getting elected and preventing those republicans from getting power? --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714229] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>How does giving republicans power again help Palestine?</quote>It won't.How does arguing that 'sometimes genocide is needed for the greater good' helping Biden getting elected and preventing those republicans from getting power? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 4:45:00 PM #387:	Trumble posted... It really says a lot that the people who still support Biden are putting more energy into convincing people to turn a blind eye to him supporting genocide than they are into putting pressure on Biden to stop supporting genocide. Pointing out people's flawed logic that isn't based in reality is super easy, barely an inconvenience. That said, it's still more than what you people are doing. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714230] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>It really says a lot that the people who still support Biden are putting more energy into convincing people to turn a blind eye to him supporting genocide than they are into putting pressure on Biden to stop supporting genocide.</quote>Pointing out people's flawed logic that isn't based in reality is super easy, barely an inconvenience. That said, it's still more than what you people are doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/03/24 4:45:53 PM #388:	SaikyoStyle posted... How does giving republicans power again help Palestine? Democrats will have a reason to challenge the Executive Branch's unconstitutional arms sales to Israel. Power of the purse is explicitly for Congress. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979714243] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted...</cite><quote>How does giving republicans power again help Palestine?</quote>Democrats will have a reason to challenge the Executive Branch's unconstitutional arms sales to Israel. Power of the purse is explicitly for Congress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 4:46:05 PM #389:	Hornezz posted... How does arguing that 'sometimes genocide is needed for the greater good' helping Biden getting elected and preventing those republicans from getting power? There's a lot of posts I haven't read in this topic, but has anyone argued that genocide is a good thing? Maybe I missed it or it was someone I have/has me blocked? --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714245] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>How does arguing that 'sometimes genocide is needed for the greater good' helping Biden getting elected and preventing those republicans from getting power?</quote>There's a lot of posts I haven't read in this topic, but has anyone argued that genocide is a good thing? Maybe I missed it or it was someone I have/has me blocked? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:46:34 PM #390:	Heineken14 posted... Pointing out people's flawed logic that isn't based in reality is super easy, barely an inconvenience. That said, it's still more than what you people are doing. The reality is that you are completely willing to turn a blind eye to Biden supporting an ongoing genocide, and support him despite it. That is, if we assume the most favorable interpretation. You're not willing to put any pressure on him to stop supporting it. You just want people to ignore the fact that he supports it and vote for him anyway. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714258] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>Pointing out people's flawed logic that isn't based in reality is super easy, barely an inconvenience. That said, it's still more than what you people are doing.</quote>The reality is that you are completely willing to turn a blind eye to Biden supporting an ongoing genocide, and support him despite it. That is, if we assume the most favorable interpretation.You're not willing to put any pressure on him to stop supporting it. You just want people to ignore the fact that he supports it and vote for him anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 4:47:01 PM #391:	MrMojoRising posted... But if insulting me makes anyone feel better for voting for a genocider, I guess do what makes you happy? Oh man, if you're not a fan of genocide, wait till you see what Trump and his croney GOPpers does with LGBT people. But hey, you got your moral dessert. ButteryMales posted... You're the one who can't be reasoned if you believe genocide doesn't make someone a fascist. Again, I said he's complicit in genocide. Same page there, I'm just not arrogant enough to think that Trump is any better. Which abstaining enables. You cannot understand this, and as such, you cannot be reasoned with. Hornezz posted... I think you're really underestimating the disapproval of Bidens handling of this conflict Good. I hope he's getting the flack he deserves. I have said twice now that it isn't about Biden, it's about defeating fascism. Hornezz posted... Now of course you can just tell these groups that Biden doesn't need to win them over, and that he's entitled to their vote even if he supports genocide, and that they're complicit in fascism if they take issue with that - but it's incredibly callous to think this is helping him win the election. I don't think it is helping him win. No idea why you keep bringing that up. Biden needs to win otherwise everyone loses. Gaza (which fucking sucks that it's like that but that's the reality is there's an outside shot we can pressure Biden), America, straight people, gay people, trans people, etc. This is an unassailable truth. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714266] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>But if insulting me makes anyone feel better for voting for a genocider, I guess do what makes you happy?</quote>Oh man, if you're not a fan of genocide, wait till you see what Trump and his croney GOPpers does with LGBT people. But hey, you got your moral dessert.ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>You're the one who can't be reasoned if you believe genocide doesn't make someone a fascist.</quote>Again, I said he's complicit in genocide. Same page there, I'm just not arrogant enough to think that Trump is any better. Which abstaining enables.You cannot understand this, and as such, you cannot be reasoned with.Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>I think you're really underestimating the disapproval of Bidens handling of this conflict</quote>Good. I hope he's getting the flack he deserves. I have said twice now that it isn't about Biden, it's about defeating fascism.Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Now of course you can just tell these groups that Biden doesn't need to win them over, and that he's entitled to their vote even if he supports genocide, and that they're complicit in fascism if they take issue with that - but it's incredibly callous to think this is helping him win the election.</quote>I don't think it is helping him win. No idea why you keep bringing that up. Biden needs to win otherwise everyone loses. Gaza (which fucking sucks that it's like that but that's the reality is there's an outside shot we can pressure Biden), America, straight people, gay people, trans people, etc. This is an unassailable truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 4:47:48 PM #392:	Trumble posted... A randomly selected CEman has a 99.99% chance of being better than Trump and at least an 85% or so chance of being better than Biden. Cool. So will you run? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979714276] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>A randomly selected CEman has a 99.99% chance of being better than Trump and at least an 85% or so chance of being better than Biden.</quote>Cool.So will you run? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:48:30 PM #393:	Umbreon posted... Cool. So will you run? I'm not eligible on multiple grounds. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714294] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Cool.So will you run?</quote>I'm not eligible on multiple grounds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdviceMan 04/03/24 4:49:11 PM #394:	"Please get Joe Biden elected so we can go back to ignoring the genocide of your people. If Trump gets elected, then we're going to suffer as well, and you have a moral duty to help us even if we won't help you." --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. <cite>AdviceMan posted [p:979714304] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>"Please get Joe Biden elected so we can go back to ignoring the genocide of your people. If Trump gets elected, then we're going to suffer as well, and you have a moral duty to help us even if we won't help you." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 4:49:15 PM #395:	Trumble posted... I'm not eligible on multiple grounds. Okay. Who should we push for a third candidate? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979714306] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I'm not eligible on multiple grounds.</quote>Okay. Who should we push for a third candidate? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/03/24 4:49:46 PM #396:	Cemith posted... Again, I said he's complicit in genocide. So you agree Biden is a fascist? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979714318] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted...</cite><quote>Again, I said he's complicit in genocide.</quote>So you agree Biden is a fascist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:49:58 PM #397:	Umbreon posted... Okay. Who should we push for a third candidate? Well, the wording was "a random CEman", so ask RNGesus. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714320] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Okay. Who should we push for a third candidate?</quote>Well, the wording was "a random CEman", so ask RNGesus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/03/24 4:50:00 PM #398:	Heineken14 posted... /shrug that's what you're making it. Not really. Voting is about selecting someone who represents my interests and/or someone who I think will make my life better. I don't think Biden does that for me. If you think that he does for you, fine, I'm sure that millions of people will agree and cast their votes for him as well. Even if I don't agree with that as a specific moral choice, I don't think you're a bad person purely for doing that. However, I think there's also many who will choose not to vote for him due to his stance. Especially if they weren't really thrilled to vote for him in 2020, combined with his record until now, his unwavering support for the genocide is the last thing he needed electorally. Will enough people refuse to vote for him due to his stance on Israel that it'll swing the election? All I'm saying is there's a chance. And if it does happen, he could've avoided it. And he chose not to. --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979714321] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>/shrug that's what you're making it.</quote>Not really. Voting is about selecting someone who represents my interests and/or someone who I think will make my life better. I don't think Biden does that for me. If you think that he does for you, fine, I'm sure that millions of people will agree and cast their votes for him as well. Even if I don't agree with that as a specific moral choice, I don't think you're a bad person purely for doing that. However, I think there's also many who will choose not to vote for him due to his stance. Especially if they weren't really thrilled to vote for him in 2020, combined with his record until now, his unwavering support for the genocide is the last thing he needed electorally. Will enough people refuse to vote for him due to his stance on Israel that it'll swing the election? All I'm saying is there's a chance. And if it does happen, he could've avoided it. And he chose not to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ironman2009 04/03/24 4:50:07 PM #399:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d01505be.jpg --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:979714322] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d01505be.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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