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DrizztLink 04/02/24 9:21:17 PM #51:	Teddytalks posted... My community intersect with theirs. It was cute of you to try though, like you knew my full background. You literally wished genocide on someone in this topic and want to act like you have the moral high ground? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979701573] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Teddytalks posted... </cite><quote>My community intersect with theirs. It was cute of you to try though, like you knew my full background.</quote>You literally wished genocide on someone in this topic and want to act like you have the moral high ground? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/02/24 9:21:40 PM #52:	cjsdowg posted... Nope you only got that shit with black people. Black people keep voting for Dems while they do shit all for us beyond not being as racist as Republicans. Other groups are saying no to being treated that way. Strong "As a black person" energy. Especially when Republicans are trying to teach our children the "good points" of slavery. 3rd party is throwing your vote away in our winner take all voting system --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979701583] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Nope you only got that shit with black people. Black people keep voting for Dems while they do shit all for us beyond not being as racist as Republicans. Other groups are saying no to being treated that way.</quote>Strong "As a black person" energy. Especially when Republicans are trying to teach our children the "good points" of slavery.3rd party is throwing your vote away in our winner take all voting system </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 04/02/24 9:21:46 PM #53:	DepreceV2 posted... No --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:979701584] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>DepreceV2 posted... </cite><quote>No</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 04/02/24 9:24:14 PM #54:	cjsdowg posted... Nope you only got that shit with black people. Black people keep voting for Dems while they do shit all for us beyond not being as racist as Republicans. Other groups are saying no to being treated that way. Pretty much the entirety of police and justice reforms have been advocated for and enacted by Democrats <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:979701623] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Nope you only got that shit with black people. Black people keep voting for Dems while they do shit all for us beyond not being as racist as Republicans. Other groups are saying no to being treated that way.</quote>Pretty much the entirety of police and justice reforms have been advocated for and enacted by Democrats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/02/24 9:25:53 PM #55:	Teddytalks posted... My community intersect with theirs. It was cute of you to try though, like you knew my full background. Cute? Bro I'm adorable. It's true, I don't know your background. Just as you don't know the background of the person who you wished would be sent to concentration camps (Bonus points for you passively admiting there would be camps under a second Trump presidency). Of course you can't read anything on this board right now, at least not on that account. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979701649] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Teddytalks posted... </cite><quote>My community intersect with theirs. It was cute of you to try though, like you knew my full background.</quote>Cute? Bro I'm adorable. It's true, I don't know your background. Just as you don't know the background of the person who you wished would be sent to concentration camps (Bonus points for you passively admiting there would be camps under a second Trump presidency).Of course you can't read anything on this board right now, at least not on that account. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Valigarmanda_ 04/02/24 9:26:20 PM #56:	"Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument --- aka TritochZERO <cite>_Valigarmanda_ posted [p:979701659] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>"Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/02/24 9:29:19 PM #57:	_Valigarmanda_ posted... "Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument When you literally only have 2 options. /shrug --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979701709] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>_Valigarmanda_ posted... </cite><quote>"Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument</quote>When you literally only have 2 options. /shrug </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheetaluv 04/02/24 9:29:56 PM #58:	_Valigarmanda_ posted... "Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument That's politics for you, a bunch of enablers who deflects. --- Having an opinion is a declaration of war <cite>Cheetaluv posted [p:979701722] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>_Valigarmanda_ posted... </cite><quote>"Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument</quote>That's politics for you, a bunch of enablers who deflects. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/02/24 9:30:27 PM #59:	_Valigarmanda_ posted... "Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument It's not. Too bad it's the reality our country lives in. Wanna pressure Biden to do the right thing? Sure, go ahead. But declaring you won't vote or preferring to give Trump the election (I'm not accusing you of either) doesn't make sense. Especially when we have Republicans openly saying we should bomb a country into a parking lot. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979701729] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>_Valigarmanda_ posted... </cite><quote>"Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument</quote>It's not. Too bad it's the reality our country lives in. Wanna pressure Biden to do the right thing? Sure, go ahead. But declaring you won't vote or preferring to give Trump the election (I'm not accusing you of either) doesn't make sense. Especially when we have Republicans openly saying we should bomb a country into a parking lot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 04/02/24 9:35:38 PM #60:	Hard to say still, but its certainly going to cost him votes likely. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:979701818] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hard to say still, but its certainly going to cost him votes likely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 04/02/24 9:59:20 PM #61:	_Valigarmanda_ posted... "Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument It is when that genocide is likely to occur on US soil. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:979702161] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>_Valigarmanda_ posted... </cite><quote>"Yeah but Trump will be even more supportive of a genocide" isn't exactly a compelling argument</quote>It is when that genocide is likely to occur on US soil. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 04/02/24 10:01:54 PM #62:	>Claims to give a shit about genocide >Doesn't give a shit that one guy openly wants to be dictator and frequently uses Hitler speeches That's how you know someone gets their news from Tiktok at best <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:979702201] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>>Claims to give a shit about genocide>Doesn't give a shit that one guy openly wants to be dictator and frequently uses Hitler speechesThat's how you know someone gets their news from Tiktok at best</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountCorvinus 04/02/24 10:02:35 PM #63:	Yes. --- "i genuinely hate people like you. you're as bad as they come. awful, just awful." - Mecha_Sonic (THEY/THEM) <cite>CountCorvinus posted [p:979702209] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 04/02/24 10:06:12 PM #64:	DrizztLink posted... You literally wished genocide on someone in this topic and want to act like you have the moral high ground? wow he actually fucking said that. That is unreal. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979702271] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>You literally wished genocide on someone in this topic and want to act like you have the moral high ground?</quote>wow he actually fucking said that. That is unreal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaos_knight 04/02/24 10:06:26 PM #65:	If Muslims in key Midwest swing states decide to sit out the election over this as threatened, Trump could win. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions <cite>chaos_knight posted [p:979702274] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>If Muslims in key Midwest swing states decide to sit out the election over this as threatened, Trump could win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/02/24 10:16:53 PM #66:	streamofthesky posted... Pretty much the entirety of police and justice reforms have been advocated for and enacted by Democrats We got no Police reform from Biden and he gave police more money and they have killed more people than they have in the last decade . --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:979702393] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite><quote>Pretty much the entirety of police and justice reforms have been advocated for and enacted by Democrats</quote>We got no Police reform from Biden and he gave police more money and they have killed more people than they have in the last decade . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 04/02/24 10:20:59 PM #67:	cjsdowg posted... Nope you only got that shit with black people. Black people keep voting for Dems while they do shit all for us beyond not being as racist as Republicans. Other groups are saying no to being treated that way. So youre saying the party with literal white nationalism ties is equal to the democrats. Interesting. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979702448] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Nope you only got that shit with black people. Black people keep voting for Dems while they do shit all for us beyond not being as racist as Republicans. Other groups are saying no to being treated that way.</quote>So youre saying the party with literal white nationalism ties is equal to the democrats. Interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/02/24 10:22:42 PM #68:	ForsakenHermit posted... It is when that genocide is likely to occur on US soil. You really think police officers are just going to round up minorities while liberals and those minorities just wait for it? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979702471] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>ForsakenHermit posted...</cite><quote>It is when that genocide is likely to occur on US soil.</quote>You really think police officers are just going to round up minorities while liberals and those minorities just wait for it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/02/24 10:22:57 PM #69:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... So youre saying the party with literal white nationalism ties is equal to the democrats. Interesting. No Democrats don't care about black people. Republicans actively hate black people . --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:979702475] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>So youre saying the party with literal white nationalism ties is equal to the democrats. Interesting.</quote>No Democrats don't care about black people. Republicans actively hate black people . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerMan5000000 04/02/24 10:24:02 PM #70:	Maybe --- Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galatians 4:16 <cite>PowerMan5000000 posted [p:979702490] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Maybe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 04/02/24 10:24:43 PM #71:	cjsdowg posted... No Democrats don't care about black people. Republicans actively hate black people . What would you need from democrats to believe they care about black people? --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979702498] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>No Democrats don't care about black people. Republicans actively hate black people .</quote>What would you need from democrats to believe they care about black people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDF-5 04/02/24 10:25:30 PM #72:	Yes he could do much more than just send aid that gets blocked <cite>EDF-5 posted [p:979702507] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Yeshe could do much more than just send aid that gets blocked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 04/02/24 10:31:37 PM #73:	Wow Biden or Trump such great options can't we throw them both away? --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979702572] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Wow Biden or Trump such great options can't we throw them both away? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/02/24 10:35:45 PM #74:	deoxxys posted... Wow Biden or Trump such great options can't we throw them both away? Not without changing the system. Guess what the system is super good at preventing? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979702629] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>Wow Biden or Trump such great options can't we throw them both away?</quote>Not without changing the system. Guess what the system is super good at preventing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 04/02/24 10:42:23 PM #75:	Sucks that American elections are basically just evil guy v1.0 vs evil guy v2.0 --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:979702735] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Sucks that American elections are basically just evil guy v1.0 vs evil guy v2.0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 04/02/24 10:44:06 PM #76:	Idk my bff jill --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:979702762] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Idk my bff jill </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ulfar 04/02/24 10:54:56 PM #77:	Joe can fix it by restoring the Kingdom of Jerusalem. <cite>Ulfar posted [p:979702905] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Joe can fix it by restoring the Kingdom of Jerusalem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 04/02/24 10:55:46 PM #78:	Teddytalks is not an active member --- Your mom <cite>Euripides posted [p:979702926] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Teddytalks is not an active member </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/02/24 10:56:08 PM #79:	Smashingpmkns posted... Sucks that American elections are basically just evil guy v1.0 vs evil guy v2.0 It's not that though. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979702930] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>Sucks that American elections are basically just evil guy v1.0 vs evil guy v2.0</quote>It's not that though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/02/24 10:59:13 PM #80:	Euripides posted... Teddytalks is not an active member But he was so moral and upright! /s --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979702964] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>Teddytalks is not an active member</quote>But he was so moral and upright! /s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/02/24 11:02:35 PM #81:	Heineken14 posted... It's not that though. This year it is. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979703006] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted...</cite><quote>It's not that though.</quote>This year it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 04/02/24 11:12:39 PM #82:	Biden gave israel carte blanche. Kill whoever you want, maim, pillage, post your warcrimes online, kill children point blank on camera, target hospitals for days on end killing/raping people inside, leaving hundreds of maggot ridden bodies of babies and charred corpses, wtf more can trump do? He will support the genocide even more? Explain how thats even possible. No, letting anyone responsible for the above go unpunished is the worse outcome, even if it means trump. Because the message supporting genocides costs you elections is better than the alternative in the long term. Everyone will think twice before doing it again and thats the logic people not voting biden have. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:979703118] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Biden gave israel carte blanche. Kill whoever you want, maim, pillage, post your warcrimes online, kill children point blank on camera, target hospitals for days on end killing/raping people inside, leaving hundreds of maggot ridden bodies of babies and charred corpses, wtf more can trump do? He will support the genocide even more? Explain how thats even possible.No, letting anyone responsible for the above go unpunished is the worse outcome, even if it means trump. Because the message supporting genocides costs you elections is better than the alternative in the long term. Everyone will think twice before doing it again and thats the logic people not voting biden have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MyMainAccount 04/02/24 11:24:19 PM #83:	Between the two candidates Trump is the one I find it more pressing to send that message to. By all means continue to pressure Biden about this decision, but for us as a country to secure our right to make this sort of a decision in the future we need to send a clear message to the man who said "I'd like to try being a dictator for a while" in an interview. Just straight up said it. And that's not Biden. --- My Real Blog https://veryrealwow.wixsite.com/website Send a PM with questions and I will reply on my blog. If desired, request a pseudonym. <cite>MyMainAccount posted [p:979703252] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Between the two candidates Trump is the one I find it more pressing to send that message to.By all means continue to pressure Biden about this decision, but for us as a country to secure our right to make this sort of a decision in the future we need to send a clear message to the man who said "I'd like to try being a dictator for a while" in an interview. Just straight up said it. And that's not Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/02/24 11:30:21 PM #84:	A_A_Battery posted... [Words] You're a known Trump supporter, are you not? Your words ring hollow. Especially when you're comfortable with the possibility of a man who OPENLY said he wants to be a dictator and quotes Hitler winning the election. "What more can Trump do?" Start having American citizens who voted against him killed for starters. Ukraine is fucked as well under a Trump victory (We'll probably be helping Russia wipe them out). There's a possibility, miniscule it may be, to convince Biden to call for a stop to this senseless murder. Trump will probably help bomb innocent citizens depending on how much he profits from it. Where does Trump have hotels at again? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979703337] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>A_A_Battery posted... </cite><quote>[Words]</quote>You're a known Trump supporter, are you not? Your words ring hollow. Especially when you're comfortable with the possibility of a man who OPENLY said he wants to be a dictator and quotes Hitler winning the election. "What more can Trump do?" Start having American citizens who voted against him killed for starters. Ukraine is fucked as well under a Trump victory (We'll probably be helping Russia wipe them out).There's a possibility, miniscule it may be, to convince Biden to call for a stop to this senseless murder. Trump will probably help bomb innocent citizens depending on how much he profits from it. Where does Trump have hotels at again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 04/02/24 11:37:52 PM #85:	A_A_Battery posted... No, letting anyone responsible for the above go unpunished is the worse outcome, even if it means trump. Nope. Fuck that bullshit. Trump winning punishes more people than just Biden. Be practical --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979703418] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>A_A_Battery posted... </cite><quote>No, letting anyone responsible for the above go unpunished is the worse outcome, even if it means trump.</quote>Nope. Fuck that bullshit. Trump winning punishes more people than just Biden.Be practical </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 04/02/24 11:38:48 PM #86:	A_A_Battery posted... Biden gave israel carte blanche. Kill whoever you want, maim, pillage, post your warcrimes online, kill children point blank on camera, target hospitals for days on end killing/raping people inside, leaving hundreds of maggot ridden bodies of babies and charred corpses, wtf more can trump do? He will support the genocide even more? Explain how thats even possible. No, letting anyone responsible for the above go unpunished is the worse outcome, even if it means trump. Because the message supporting genocides costs you elections is better than the alternative in the long term. Everyone will think twice before doing it again and thats the logic people not voting biden have. Whose alt is this --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:979703426] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>A_A_Battery posted... </cite><quote>Biden gave israel carte blanche. Kill whoever you want, maim, pillage, post your warcrimes online, kill children point blank on camera, target hospitals for days on end killing/raping people inside, leaving hundreds of maggot ridden bodies of babies and charred corpses, wtf more can trump do? He will support the genocide even more? Explain how thats even possible.No, letting anyone responsible for the above go unpunished is the worse outcome, even if it means trump. Because the message supporting genocides costs you elections is better than the alternative in the long term. Everyone will think twice before doing it again and thats the logic people not voting biden have.</quote>Whose alt is this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ushiromiya 04/02/24 11:39:38 PM #87:	No --- http://i.imgur.com/11wM01O.gif https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7fjv4JkgBk <cite>Ushiromiya posted [p:979703438] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>No </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 04/02/24 11:41:29 PM #88:	Dark Brandon supports genocide and anyone who votes for him is also supporting genocide. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:979703457] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Dark Brandon supports genocide and anyone who votes for him is also supporting genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybabe89 04/02/24 11:44:59 PM #91:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... Dark Brandon supports genocide and anyone who votes for him is also supporting genocide. Your party proudly promises to eradicate LGBTQ people every time they have an open mic. Glass houses. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979703503] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite><quote>Dark Brandon supports genocide and anyone who votes for him is also supporting genocide.</quote>Your party proudly promises to eradicate LGBTQ people every time they have an open mic. Glass houses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Raich_ 04/02/24 11:48:31 PM #92:	No, the odds and margins for Israel to be what loses it for him are way way too small/thin. Protest votes during the primary were a great opportunity to get the message out about how many disapprove of the Israel support, partially because it doesn't actually jeopardize anything, and many, if not the overwhelming majority, of those that went out to do that, aren't gonna be doing it come November. It's also a really ineffective way to get what you want, or more candidates that you want in the future, if done during elections that matter. Abstaining from the election means to politicians on both sides that you are someone to NOT be catered to. Like, if you are deadset on not voting for Biden because of Israel, the play from there of the Biden campaign and Dems is to treat you as if you were the same as MAGA person saying No, because it's effectively the same to them. You are unwinnable as a voter, go target those who will still vote but may pick the other candidate, which leads to more centrist appeasing. Voting blocs win more influence in parties by showing up then loudly taking credit and declaring you can't win without us, not the opposite. --- http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/chitlins_and_grits/_Raich_.jpg <cite>_Raich_ posted [p:979703542] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>No, the odds and margins for Israel to be what loses it for him are way way too small/thin.Protest votes during the primary were a great opportunity to get the message out about how many disapprove of the Israel support, partially because it doesn't actually jeopardize anything, and many, if not the overwhelming majority, of those that went out to do that, aren't gonna be doing it come November.It's also a really ineffective way to get what you want, or more candidates that you want in the future, if done during elections that matter. Abstaining from the election means to politicians on both sides that you are someone to NOT be catered to. Like, if you are deadset on not voting for Biden because of Israel, the play from there of the Biden campaign and Dems is to treat you as if you were the same as MAGA person saying No, because it's effectively the same to them. You are unwinnable as a voter, go target those who will still vote but may pick the other candidate, which leads to more centrist appeasing.Voting blocs win more influence in parties by showing up then loudly taking credit and declaring you can't win without us, not the opposite. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 12:02:18 AM #93:	It's a very real possibility, and it's what he deserves (or at least, the start of it; ideally jail would be next). The part that sucks is Americans being so shit scared of third parties that their preferred alternative is someone even worse, rather than someone better. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979703678] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>It's a very real possibility, and it's what he deserves (or at least, the start of it; ideally jail would be next). The part that sucks is Americans being so shit scared of third parties that their preferred alternative is someone even worse, rather than someone better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 04/03/24 12:07:26 AM #94:	hockeybabe89 posted... Your party proudly promises to eradicate LGBTQ people every time they have an open mic. Glass houses. I'm an Independent voter and I won't support a Republican or Democrat candidate for President. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:979703728] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Your party proudly promises to eradicate LGBTQ people every time they have an open mic. Glass houses.</quote>I'm an Independent voter and I won't support a Republican or Democrat candidate for President. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 12:18:58 AM #95:	Trumble posted... It's a very real possibility, and it's what he deserves (or at least, the start of it; ideally jail would be next). The part that sucks is Americans being so shit scared of third parties that their preferred alternative is someone even worse, rather than someone better. But on the other hand, if Americans are so unwilling to consider other options, it's hard to argue that they haven't brought the results of that on themselves tbh. It's not that we're scared (Well, we the little guys), so much that it's just third parties not being viable with our current system. Like if third party can't even make an noticeable mark during 2016, a time where both parties had deeply unpopular candidates, then what the fuck do you expect an independent party to do now? But even if people were more willing to vote 3rd party, the media sure as hell isn't willing to cover them. Just look at Bernie Sanders. Half the time I heard about him, the media was questioning when he was going to drop out. I also couldn't help but notice all the Democratic candidates conveniently dropping out and giving their full support to Biden when it looked like Bernie was potentially gaining popularity. The media loves Trump, because he brings drama and ratings. If you were a 'sane' Republican in 2016 you were pushed aisde. Because did you hear what Trump said an hour ago? The system will not allow a third candidate until the system is changed. The system is great at making sure that doesn't happen. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979703841] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>It's a very real possibility, and it's what he deserves (or at least, the start of it; ideally jail would be next). The part that sucks is Americans being so shit scared of third parties that their preferred alternative is someone even worse, rather than someone better. But on the other hand, if Americans are so unwilling to consider other options, it's hard to argue that they haven't brought the results of that on themselves tbh.</quote>It's not that we're scared (Well, we the little guys), so much that it's just third parties not being viable with our current system. Like if third party can't even make an noticeable mark during 2016, a time where both parties had deeply unpopular candidates, then what the fuck do you expect an independent party to do now?But even if people were more willing to vote 3rd party, the media sure as hell isn't willing to cover them. Just look at Bernie Sanders. Half the time I heard about him, the media was questioning when he was going to drop out.I also couldn't help but notice all the Democratic candidates conveniently dropping out and giving their full support to Biden when it looked like Bernie was potentially gaining popularity. The media loves Trump, because he brings drama and ratings. If you were a 'sane' Republican in 2016 you were pushed aisde. Because did you hear what Trump said an hour ago?The system will not allow a third candidate until the system is changed. The system is great at making sure that doesn't happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 04/03/24 12:21:39 AM #96:	Let's say hypothetically that Joe Biden's position on Israel costs him X votes in the right places and he then loses by < X votes. You can go all out blaming the X voters for that, but if Biden could have made different decisions that lost him fewer votes (for example, he's made decisions that go beyond what your average Biden-supporting Israel-defending Liberal would demand) and changed the outcome, it's still his fault far more than it is any individual who didn't vote for him. As someone who will vote for Biden in a state that will almost certainly go for him regardless of my input, it's still annoying for me to see people micro-target people who are like "actually this might negatively impact how likely I am to vote for Biden" if they're not going to make a case that Biden will lose more votes by taking [different position]. The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line. The idea that the Democratic candidate can be as **** as they want to if they're facing Trump is just as dumb as 2016 when I voted for Hillary (though in Nebraska so it was basically worthless). --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:979703876] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Let's say hypothetically that Joe Biden's position on Israel costs him X votes in the right places and he then loses by < X votes. You can go all out blaming the X voters for that, but if Biden could have made different decisions that lost him fewer votes (for example, he's made decisions that go beyond what your average Biden-supporting Israel-defending Liberal would demand) and changed the outcome, it's still his fault far more than it is any individual who didn't vote for him.As someone who will vote for Biden in a state that will almost certainly go for him regardless of my input, it's still annoying for me to see people micro-target people who are like "actually this might negatively impact how likely I am to vote for Biden" if they're not going to make a case that Biden will lose more votes by taking [different position]. The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line. The idea that the Democratic candidate can be as **** as they want to if they're facing Trump is just as dumb as 2016 when I voted for Hillary (though in Nebraska so it was basically worthless). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 04/03/24 12:40:10 AM #97:	Anteaterking posted... Let's say hypothetically that Joe Biden's position on Israel costs him X votes in the right places and he then loses by < X votes. You can go all out blaming the X voters for that, but if Biden could have made different decisions that lost him fewer votes (for example, he's made decisions that go beyond what your average Biden-supporting Israel-defending Liberal would demand) and changed the outcome, it's still his fault far more than it is any individual who didn't vote for him. As someone who will vote for Biden in a state that will almost certainly go for him regardless of my input, it's still annoying for me to see people micro-target people who are like "actually this might negatively impact how likely I am to vote for Biden" if they're not going to make a case that Biden will lose more votes by taking [different position]. The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line. The idea that the Democratic candidate can be as **** as they want to if they're facing Trump is just as dumb as 2016 when I voted for Hillary (though in Nebraska so it was basically worthless). Excellent post. Our system is such fucking garbage. One party deciding not to act in good faith just breaks the entire thing. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:979704042] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite><quote>Let's say hypothetically that Joe Biden's position on Israel costs him X votes in the right places and he then loses by < X votes. You can go all out blaming the X voters for that, but if Biden could have made different decisions that lost him fewer votes (for example, he's made decisions that go beyond what your average Biden-supporting Israel-defending Liberal would demand) and changed the outcome, it's still his fault far more than it is any individual who didn't vote for him.As someone who will vote for Biden in a state that will almost certainly go for him regardless of my input, it's still annoying for me to see people micro-target people who are like "actually this might negatively impact how likely I am to vote for Biden" if they're not going to make a case that Biden will lose more votes by taking [different position]. The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line. The idea that the Democratic candidate can be as **** as they want to if they're facing Trump is just as dumb as 2016 when I voted for Hillary (though in Nebraska so it was basically worthless).</quote>Excellent post.Our system is such fucking garbage. One party deciding not to act in good faith just breaks the entire thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 04/03/24 1:15:36 AM #98:	Anteaterking posted... The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line. Of course. But if we know Trump is worse and you know there are only two viable choices that can win, simple logic dictates a person vote for Biden. Why are people overthinking it? It's not about Biden or his actions. If a bag of flaming shit is less bad than the other candidate, you vote for it. People call me a doomer, yet they find the world so hopeless that they'd rather they and everyone die than continue voting for "less bad" instead of "great". --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979704343] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite><quote>The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line.</quote>Of course. But if we know Trump is worse and you know there are only two viable choices that can win, simple logic dictates a person vote for Biden. Why are people overthinking it? It's not about Biden or his actions. If a bag of flaming shit is less bad than the other candidate, you vote for it.People call me a doomer, yet they find the world so hopeless that they'd rather they and everyone die than continue voting for "less bad" instead of "great". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 04/03/24 1:21:33 AM #99:	Anteaterking posted... Let's say hypothetically that Joe Biden's position on Israel costs him X votes in the right places and he then loses by < X votes. You can go all out blaming the X voters for that, but if Biden could have made different decisions that lost him fewer votes (for example, he's made decisions that go beyond what your average Biden-supporting Israel-defending Liberal would demand) and changed the outcome, it's still his fault far more than it is any individual who didn't vote for him. As someone who will vote for Biden in a state that will almost certainly go for him regardless of my input, it's still annoying for me to see people micro-target people who are like "actually this might negatively impact how likely I am to vote for Biden" if they're not going to make a case that Biden will lose more votes by taking [different position]. The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line. The idea that the Democratic candidate can be as ** as they want to if they're facing Trump is just as dumb as 2016 when I voted for Hillary (though in Nebraska so it was basically worthless). I think he would absolutely lose more votes by going against Israel because the US populace is thoroughly inundated with pro-Israel propaganda. Democrats largely have the Jewish vote locked down as is and a number of powerful donors and PACs supporting him that he would risk losing by going against Israel. I would argue that is the Democrats primary motivation for continuing to support them. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe** - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:979704394] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite><quote>Let's say hypothetically that Joe Biden's position on Israel costs him X votes in the right places and he then loses by < X votes. You can go all out blaming the X voters for that, but if Biden could have made different decisions that lost him fewer votes (for example, he's made decisions that go beyond what your average Biden-supporting Israel-defending Liberal would demand) and changed the outcome, it's still his fault far more than it is any individual who didn't vote for him.As someone who will vote for Biden in a state that will almost certainly go for him regardless of my input, it's still annoying for me to see people micro-target people who are like "actually this might negatively impact how likely I am to vote for Biden" if they're not going to make a case that Biden will lose more votes by taking [different position]. The Biden administration should be actively trying to win the election rather than just saying "Trump would be worse" and hoping that helps them cross the finish line. The idea that the Democratic candidate can be as **** as they want to if they're facing Trump is just as dumb as 2016 when I voted for Hillary (though in Nebraska so it was basically worthless).</quote>I think he would absolutely lose more votes by going against Israel because the US populace is thoroughly inundated with pro-Israel propaganda. Democrats largely have the Jewish vote locked down as is and a number of powerful donors and PACs supporting him that he would risk losing by going against Israel. I would argue that is the Democrats primary motivation for continuing to support them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjnelson 04/03/24 1:27:34 AM #100:	Let me preface this by saying I really, really badly don't want Trump to win. However, I have to be honest with myself. Biden is going to get decimated in November. There's no real costing him the election since he already stood no chance. Trump benefits from the religious zeal of his base. The more Trump is attacked for the stuff he does, the more firmly they worship him. They'll take a bullet for him, or make sure you do. Whatever it takes, whatever the cost, they'll sacrifice it for their orange god. Biden doesn't have that. Democrats have no spine or commitment. "Oh, I wanted Bernie Sanders..." (or whatever) "...so I just won't vote. Trump can have it since I didn't get my way." Republicans can crap all over a GOP candidate but once he's officially their guy they'll fully support them. --- I'm not here for friends. I'm here for the truth to the best of my knowledge of it, even if it's not what people want to hear. <cite>pjnelson posted [p:979704441] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Let me preface this by saying I really, really badly don't want Trump to win. However, I have to be honest with myself. Biden is going to get decimated in November. There's no real costing him the election since he already stood no chance.Trump benefits from the religious zeal of his base. The more Trump is attacked for the stuff he does, the more firmly they worship him. They'll take a bullet for him, or make sure you do. Whatever it takes, whatever the cost, they'll sacrifice it for their orange god. Biden doesn't have that. Democrats have no spine or commitment. "Oh, I wanted Bernie Sanders..." (or whatever) "...so I just won't vote. Trump can have it since I didn't get my way." Republicans can crap all over a GOP candidate but once he's officially their guy they'll fully support them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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