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didn't you send me a date request too lmao

Also I'm pretty sure you've suggested lynching more players than Kirby has today lol

Chris, Sultan, Ulti, Kirby, Me

I think maybe even some Dumey early in the day

That's why I'm much more suspicious of players who don't seem to care much who dies and are more concerned with keeping people alive

Peaf had committed to the Kirby town read at that point and kind of had to save him

I stand by my interpretation. It was all town at the end aside from peaf. Scum was safely paired so scum didn't care who died.

Peaf saves Kirby. Kirby looks bad if Peaf dies first, Peaf looks bad if Kirby dies first. He probably didn't expect to die Day 1 but that first scenario is exactly what's happening here

It's not Oh MY God You Suck?

I'm litterally checked not going anywhere I'm town like I said everyone's playing like Idots here.

Kirbys day 1 basically skates by getting saved by peaf. They pulled a gambit and it didn't work basically had to be that way beacuse uh why would peaf do that other wise it makes 0 sense
2.doenst care jo got killed more or less didn't want to believe or trust red?
Today basically the same does care wants to kill confirmed town to clear othe town. Okay willingly killing people he thinks is town...?

do you think Kirby just stabbed Peaf in the back like that?

sultan convince me that someone else is scum

Yeah idk man Chris got me confused as hell. Lady couple games he was very afk came on said some reads with little back ground. Then afk. He got the prosty and The Scan going for him. Idk nothing scummy in play but nothing overly town either

I mean I guess but it was alot of what was already asked and already answered.

I really don't understand how people still don't get im fucking good at this game and my strategy was smart but we already went in this fish pond and o was confirmed not moving how I'm most of people top suspect is really bad. Just saying.

Someone on my case is scum 100%

2) Peaf literally peaced out after sending his date to me. Exhibit A:

The biggest town points for Kirby in that exchange is definitely his willingness to leave and possibly let himself die until he saw the FD post and dated him

Did Sultan get up

what is keeping isquen from being the scum that sent in the NK after lopen claimed gambler in their chat?

Lopen posted...

I'm going to now explain why I think Isquen is lock town and hopefully that will convince people that

1. He is town
2. I am town

I went into the night letting Isquen share suspicions. He said his reads were currently all the same and that Dumey was his number one suspect. He opened with the same thing that weirded Corrik out saying we should wait till 2 hours before deadline for anything important

I made a crack about "oh yeah if you say something big I might have scum kill you instead of the cop"

So then I shared some more suspicions. I had to argue with him that Chris was probably not GF because miller + gf in this setup would make the scanners garbage since the scans are already amambiguous. I had to argue with him that Corrik was town because to claim backup scanner blind and name the exact mechanic is ridiculous.

He had not talked that much at this point. Was a few hours in.

He said he was going to sleep. Like an hour later I said I was losing conviction he was town since I figured he would talk more if he was really mad Corrik didn't say anything.

I then claimed Gambit, Town Gambler. I said my ability was to redirect the night kill to the person I was in the room with once per game and if I redirected to town I would be unable to issue date requests the next day. I told him I was going to 100% use it tonight and I had decided to do this because. 1. I was not 100% sure he was town. 2. We were the big mislynches left on the table. 3. To gain another cop scan.

Isquen in the morning claimed his role to me (Travis Kelce, Vanilla), but said he guessed that was OK since it was saving the cop. He expressed some doubt over whether I was telling the truth but seemed to believe it in the end.

He then went into a few stages of theorizing scum setups and whether Id necessarily be saving the cop, and eventually coming to the conclusion that they'd probably shoot Chris roleblock Red if Chris wasn't scum and so signed off on my decision and said it made sense.

He then worked with me through scum hunting and we were thinking Dumey + Sultan/Ulti/Mzero/JC, with Sultan seeming most likely. I will say in honor of Lea's Death Ive decided to just give Kirby the benefit of a doubt going forward and not push his lynch.

I then after action deadline told him I was Boa Hancock vanilla and that hopefully there were no hard feelings

Overall his reaction to my claim (appear to believe it, work through whether it made sense to redirect to him, willingness to continue scumhunting, and the fact that Red was killed and not roleblocked with me being killed. I also quite liked that I had to argue with him about Chris and Corrik despite the obvious thing being to believe they are town.

So yeah I don't think Isquen's Sense Motive or Bluff are that high and going forward I'd rather be lynched than him if it comes down to that (since at least you might believe he's town if I'm dead)

Someone on my case is scum 100%

please just let Sultan die

Ulti, can you please just let Sultan die? Mans isn't even reading the game and is throwing baseless shade as a defense lol

Chris is prosty that targets his roommate

7. Dumey
11. Sir Chris

6. Ulti
8. Corrik

1. Mzero
4. Isquen

3. Chaeix (JC)
5. FD

2. Lopen
9. Sultan

UltimaterializerX posted...

Red is LOCK town, btw. His ability to solve is really something else.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

You are the reason Red didn't have to contribute anything to day 1 I'll be pissed at both you and Isquen if we see a repeat performance day 2.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I support jettisoning Red if he wont play. We have his thoughts anyway.

Kirby321 posted...

Meanwhile, Red can actively hurt our chances of nailing scum. If Sultan or Chris is scum, Red would happily throw the game by not giving a shit about the mechanics and just open dates for everyone, giving scum and easy way to bypass their "can't pair with each other limits".

One of these players is actively anti-town. That's my judgement.

I'm coming around to the idea of lynching Lopen today.

Kirby321 posted...

But you're 100% town, Lopen. I can't see any of your actions this game from a scum Lopen PoV.

Suppose Sultan flips town.

Suddenly that changes everything, as Chris is far likelier to have been telling the truth.