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Sorry if I upset you Kirby and this isn't a show

Definitely try to keep my mafia light but I can see why being bold about calling people scum can be upsetting I guess

If Lea flips scum please indulge me and lynch Kirby tomorrow thanks

If you really thought I'd trust you why not just not tell me and let me defend you in game if it came to that

Claiming miller in private felt more like a manipulation. In topic I'd probably trust it more.

If you really hated miller suspicion that much why claim it to me

Ridiculous

Enchantress posted...

Because of how easily he was shunned D1 before I decided to rescue him. It's the whole reason Peaf died, me town reading Kirby. I really should have said more in the neighborhood apparently, geeez.

So you completely ignore day 2 discussion and his reactions and play and still think he's confirmed town to the point where you'd just allow yourself to die.

Nah you're better than that. You aren't gonna just stall on a town read and let yourself die for nothing.

I don't buy it.

Name names Kirby who is insulting you

I'm not even insulting you.

Like that's why the reaction feels fake. What is there even to be mad about.

Enchantress posted...

No, I wanted Kirby to pair with Red. Kirby was mad at Red and wanted to save me instead, and I rejected that.

So you're that confident Kirby is town based on what

Enchantress posted...

But that reaction image is a character refusing to accept a hand to save him from eternal magical torment

So you didn't want to save Kirby and then red is obvious town so you let Kirby save himself

Makes sense

Enchantress posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a16ac5ce.jpg

This post and the Kirby post leading up to it was leading up to Kirby and Lea pairing

Then red comes in and claims cop and it's over

Kirby is fake mad and Lea is gonna flip scum

They delayed so long because of scum board discourse "who is more likely to be able to bs through the game"

Martyr meta bad idea scumteam

I don't think so

I think this format is super difficult to actually lynch scum and passing the cop scans around was meant to be the town wincon

Kirby and Lea not just pairing with red is telling tbh

That's the scum wrap it up

Gonna laugh if it's Lea and Kirby and red just screwed their plan over

I am literally telling Lea to date you

Your own post has Lea as higher chance of scum

You just are saying red will hurt solving

This is what scum does

He isn't even saying red is scum there

Lea

If you date red I will ban you from being lynched tomorrow

Kirby is faking emotion all over the place. I have no idea why he's even getting so mad

It's a gutsy call to show no regard for your own well being but let's call him on it

Lea if you're town just pair with red

Kirby321 posted...

Who the fuck paired with this clown again?

Here's where Kirby pretends to be mad and pairs with someone out of spite

Enchantress posted...

If you kill 3 town in one shot? Yeah

How am I killing 3 town in one shot? I am encouraging it but the decision isn't in my hands

If you're willing to die to narrow POE you should be willing to triple

It's the same amount of pace lost without scum getting to control the night kill

EDumey posted...

The longer we sit here with no action, the more limited our options become. I don't think this is the group we try some triple kill on. There's no reason to have town not pair here.

Penta with you and Ulti too

Enchantress posted...

If there really is a double or triple town kill, maybe don't write off the architecht who suspected but didn't actually kill Peaf and then leaked information just to get me killed.

Are you thinking I'm scum now?

Kirby Ulti and Lea all claim willingness to die so call the bluff

End the martyr meta

Play chicken with it and see who actually pairs up

Kirby
Red
Dumey
Lea
Ulti

Detonate the whole pile

You Lea and red are in the pool

Pair with no one and flip 3 and we probably win tbh

Wish Ulti would jump in the pool too

Let's have all these martyrs put their money where their mouth is

Actually detonate all 3

Kirby kill her

Maybe Corrik was drawing the cop to corroborate him while simultaneously killing Lea

Who knows

Or kill Corrik

Martyr city here

Just kill the guy who isn't playing, red

I'm OK with any result really

Corrik is obviously town so he can either axe Kirby or Red

It's probably Lea + JC imo

##Date: Isquen

Have at it

Chaeix posted...

nobody has explained to me why lea would self-immolate for no reason if she's scum who thinks there's probably a room cop

How is it immolating

Corrik7 posted...

It's literally just 1 step further with a Miller.

One step further to the point where the scans are garbage

Miller and Godfather should not exist in this setup if that's the scan mechanic. Scum being able to hero mode save each other and game potentially being over one lynch before schedule balances out the number disadvantage

Corrik7 posted...

20% no extra kills. Like scum has to have their advantages somewhere. They have it with 2 scum early mylo and the scanning helping them and not fully checking them.

Yes

And a miller existing on TOP of that is unneeded

If you have a scum with a town and the room becomes scan that town is effectively miller

Corrik7 posted...

Scum is 20% dude.

20% and can save each other from being lynched

The mechanics inherently favor scum

Corrik7 posted...

Red check Miller can clear the SCUM if paired with them. It's actually a very big town detriment role.

YES.

That's why the miller is excessive

Corrik7 posted...

Nah it clears her if a real cop exists.

WHY.

Red check miller on scans that already are ambiguous makes no sense

I thought that's what you were claiming for

Undate please

Isquen being cop does not clear Lea

Lea is still scum

Corrik7 posted...

GF would green check. Miller would red check and potentially let the scum skate as the Miller was the red check.

It makes the scan garbage yes.

I don't buy gf or miller

Corrik7 posted...

If the Cop is killed, I get a 1 shot Cop scan of a room that says if both in the room or innocent or at least one is not

If you scan a role with scum result in it you have to figure out whether it's one scum, which one it is, or two scum

Miller and GF are not needed at all.

There may or may not be a cop

The point is you don't need to obscure scan results further if those are the mechanics