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TheGoldenEel posted...
that's nonsense, PS5 and XSX might not have many or any first party exclusives but since they're modern hardware they get lots and lots of support from third party developers

nintendo has never relied on third party games so as usual they're essentially supporting the switch by themselves, and with just a few new, original games per year they're not doing a good job of it
I mean, that's how you use it. I pretty much get any indie games I can on the switch due to ease of use. Dead Cells and StS are likely my most played games ever across PC and switch, discounting mods I'll take the switch versions every day. I also don't get terribly many first party games outside of Pokemon.
TheGoldenEel posted...
that's nonsense, PS5 and XSX might not have many or any first party exclusives but since they're modern hardware they get lots and lots of support from third party developers

nintendo has never relied on third party games so as usual they're essentially supporting the switch by themselves, and with just a few new, original games per year they're not doing a good job of it

and theoretically since they're working with like ten year old tech, and at just HD or less it should take less time and fewer man-hours to make their games than your average AAA game right now

Theyve sold more on the switch than all of their other platforms combined. Id say thats doing a pretty good job. All those other third parties are struggling and having to fire people too. Such a good job Sony/MS are doing providing a healthy marketplace for them. That new princess peach game has sold as much as FF16.

HashtagSEP posted...
Is this actually true? Honest question. I can think of Kirby Star Allies and Mario Wonder, other than a few ports like Tropical Freeze and NSMBU. This seems quite outnumbered by the number of first party games that aren't 2D platformers.
Yoshi's Crafted World, Metroid Dread, Princess Peach Showtime

and yes, those ports plus Kirby Return to Dreamland
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Yoshi's Crafted World, Metroid Dread, Princess Peach Showtime

and yes, those ports plus Kirby Return to Dreamland

So, are you saying you want no 2D platformers at all? I'm a bit confused by this argument. Wonder and Dread were received extremely well, for example, so it feels weird to dismiss them as "formulaic platformers."
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HashtagSEP posted...
So, are you saying you want no 2D platformers at all? I'm a bit confused by this argument. Wonder and Dread were received extremely well, for example, so it feels weird to dismiss them as "formulaic platformers."
No, I love all those games.

i just mean theyre making straightforward platformers with little to no innovation, with the graphical fidelity of late-life PS3 games, so why is their release schedule so sparse

im not coming from a place of dislike for Nintendos gamesrather, theyre my favorite developer so its disappointing that they do so little of substance anymore

it feels like at the top level, there isnt the passion for games like there used to be when there were people like Iwata and Reggie, and so a much higher percentage of what they release feel like cynical cash grabs
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Dudebusters posted...
The handheld side of things is 1000% a huge part of why the Switch sells so well to begin with
They are sacrificing power for mobility. They will be 1 1/2 gen behind again chasing it. What we want from them is to be the first choice of gamers. They could rule the roost if they wanted to. They think being in their own lane is the safest place to be. They Don't really have to try hard.
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TheGoldenEel posted...
No, I love all those games.

i just mean theyre making straightforward platformers with little to no innovation, with the graphical fidelity of late-life PS3 games, so why is their release schedule so sparse

im not coming from a place of dislike for Nintendos gamesrather, theyre my favorite developer so its disappointing that they do so little of substance anymore

it feels like at the top level, there isnt the passion for games like there used to be when there were people like Iwata and Reggie, and so a much higher percentage of what they release feel like cynical cash grabs
I just heavily disagree that nintendo doesnt make games of substance anymore

What kind of games are you looking for if their output this gen wasnt enough in quantity nor quality for you? The wii U days mustve sunk you when shit like animal crossing amiibo and star fox zero were supposed to be big direct announcements.
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vycebrand2 posted...
They are sacrificing power for mobility. They will be 1 1/2 gen behind again chasing it. What we want from them is to be the first choice of gamers. They could rule the roost if they wanted to. They think being in their own lane is the safest place to be. They Don't really have to try hard.
I think thats what you want from them. A lot of people prefer the switch just for being a decent handheld. I know people who barely play video games that only own a switch and several first party nintendo titles.

Its cheap, its portable, and has good first party nintendo games. Many people are perfectly content with that. I would like if nintendo really went all out on a home console, but im not going to speak for millions of people.
Hee Ho
Thats the point I tried to convey earlier. Sony entertainment interactive has nearly twice the employees Nintendo has globally. Theyd have to hire like mad and join the race to the bottom that is AAA development nowadays. Bloated budgets and delays leading to losses and firings. Nintendo doesnt need any of that.
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I just heavily disagree that nintendo doesnt make games of substance anymore

What kind of games are you looking for if their output this gen wasnt enough in quantity nor quality for you? The wii U days mustve sunk you when shit like animal crossing amiibo and star fox zero were supposed to be big direct announcements.
When they were supporting Wii U they were also supporting 3DS

but that year you mention was also the year they were winding down development for both 3DS and Wii U, and they followed it up in 2017 with Breath of The Wild and Super Mario Odyssey, basically the only games they made for Switch that had any degree of innovation, plus ARMS, arguably not a great game but still the only new IP they created since 2017
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ADW posted...
Thats the point I tried to convey earlier. Sony entertainment interactive has nearly twice the employees Nintendo has globally. Theyd have to hire like mad and join the race to the bottom that is AAA development nowadays. Bloated budgets and delays leading to losses and firings. Nintendo doesnt need any of that.
This pretty much. At this rate Nintendo is likely to be the only one to walk out of a major video game crunch/crash. I'm not particularly a Nintendo fan either, but what they're doing is smart at this point while everyone else is flailing.
vycebrand2 posted...
They are sacrificing power for mobility. They will be 1 1/2 gen behind again chasing it. What we want from them is to be the first choice of gamers. They could rule the roost if they wanted to. They think being in their own lane is the safest place to be. They Don't really have to try hard.

The Switch is the third highest selling console of all time, after the PS2 and DS. Pretty sure they are exactly where they want to be.
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Akuryu posted...
I only buy Nintendo consoles for the 1st party games. Whether or not it can handle modern cross-platform titles is irrelevant because I'll just buy those on better hardware.

The only thing that matters to me is that it's backwards compatible with Switch 1. I'm not going to keep 2 portables around, and I'm not buying "Enhanced" Switch 2 ports of Swith 1 games.

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On par with PS4 Pro is a huge upgrade if true. We need 4k Nintendo games
the switch is having trouble playing some ported games and shit like mhrise played like crap on it.

the upgrade is welcome and ps4 level with dlss on a small screen is more than enough.
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TetsuoS2 posted...
the switch is having trouble playing some ported games and shit like mhrise played like crap on it.

the upgrade is welcome and ps4 level with dlss on a small screen is more than enough.
lol no
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Anyone want to point out how these super duper mega powerful consoles with the Xbox and PS5 still barely have any games worth getting?

So much for all that horsepower being of any use.
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vycebrand2 posted...
The Switch is pretty much a 7.5 gen system. Switch 2 is a 8.5 gen system.
Drop the handheld, keep the joycons, upgrade the specs to current Gen. People are playing your systems because of the IPs not the latest gimmick you can think up Nintendo.
That would be the absolute worst thing nintendo can do since the portability hybrid idea is what lead them to being wildly successful on their home turf (have to remember that japanese gamers by and large prefer mobile and handheld gaming these days) and being extremely successful everywhere else, and when it comes to being a "console" there is still certain things nintendo really sucks at compared to both sony and microsoft. *Their online play set-up being the biggest one.*
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bover_87 posted...
IDK why people worry so much about Nintendo console specs when you're almost certainly not buying it for its power. If you're buying Nintendo stuff you're probably buying it for first party games.
Its the one and only chance they get to gloat per generation, before they go back to being stepped on by PC owners
the switch 2 will be a very good system, it can run horizon zero dawn and gears of war 5. the dock has a cooler built in so likely a boost mode when docked too. not bad for a handheld at all, and very adequate for porting third party games. it's bc with physical and online switch games, the Switch OS takes only 1GB of memory so plenty of RAM for 1080p leftover. the worst part is the code name which could end up the actual name, "Switch Attach".
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vycebrand2 posted...
The Switch is pretty much a 7.5 gen system. Switch 2 is a 8.5 gen system.
Drop the handheld, keep the joycons, upgrade the specs to current Gen. People are playing your systems because of the IPs not the latest gimmick you can think up Nintendo.

They should definitely NOT drop the handheld Thats one of the best parts of the switch. Probably my favorite gimmick, tbh

TheGoldenEel posted...
nintendo has never relied on third party games so as usual they're essentially supporting the switch by themselves, and with just a few new, original games per year they're not doing a good job of it

Tbf, they get a lot of support from indie games, as well And some really good ones, at that

TheGoldenEel posted...
and theoretically since they're working with like ten year old tech, and at just HD or less it should take less time and fewer man-hours to make their games than your average AAA game right now

I think how long it takes depends on the game still A lot of their games do have little Easter eggs and secrets, and they put a lot of care into them Which could be why they take so much time Maybe

TheGoldenEel posted...
Yoshi's Crafted World, Metroid Dread, Princess Peach Showtime

and yes, those ports plus Kirby Return to Dreamland

Peach Showtime felt more like 2.5D. Closer to a 3D platformer

TheGoldenEel posted...
No, I love all those games.

i just mean theyre making straightforward platformers with little to no innovation, with the graphical fidelity of late-life PS3 games, so why is their release schedule so sparse

im not coming from a place of dislike for Nintendos gamesrather, theyre my favorite developer so its disappointing that they do so little of substance anymore

it feels like at the top level, there isnt the passion for games like there used to be when there were people like Iwata and Reggie, and so a much higher percentage of what they release feel like cynical cash grabs

Tbh, I feel those games were well received because they put a lot of work into them. Had they rushed them to beef up their amount of games, they probably wouldnt be as good

vycebrand2 posted...
They are sacrificing power for mobility. They will be 1 1/2 gen behind again chasing it. What we want from them is to be the first choice of gamers. They could rule the roost if they wanted to. They think being in their own lane is the safest place to be. They Don't really have to try hard.

I know not everyone feels the same, but Im fine with sacrificing power for mobility
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This entire topic, people massively overrate how the PS3 used to look lmao. It'll be like one of those things where you go back and realize holy shit, these games all look super dated now, but because a lot of games on PS3 didn't age well and offer too little past their graphics, nobody has played a PS3 game in eons to truly know for sure.
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legendarylemur posted...
This entire topic, people massively overrate how the PS3 used to look lmao. It'll be like one of those things where you go back and realize holy shit, these games all look super dated now, but because a lot of games on PS3 didn't age well and offer too little past their graphics, nobody has played a PS3 game in eons to truly know for sure.
Its easier to exaggerate things to make newer things look bad in comparison.
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better than a ps4

Irony posted...
So junk

ahahahahahahaha

have fun playing bad games. The next pokemon games are going to look great.
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Dakimakura posted...
Can't wait to see the XBOX 360 looking games they create for it

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I respect Nintendo for making PORTABLE gaming systems that actually are useful for real-world gaming on the go.

The key features for me are:

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  • Light to hold for extended periods
  • Doesn't get overly warm to touch
  • Silent or barely audible cooling system
  • Can fit in a regular bag or jacket pocket


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I didn't read through the discussion, but all I want from a Switch 2 is:

PS4 power
Ability to cast to a television, which would allow DS/3DS functionality (doesn't need to be powerful, just give devs the option to do that)
Hall effect Joy cons
6+ hour battery life
Never warm to the touch (Lord knows my Gen 1 switch had that happen before, broke the shell fixing the problem
1 TB hard drive MINIMUM
bluezero posted...
Why does Nintendo always aim so low?
Because they can since their fan boys keep buying their shit. How else will they play the same 10 or so games that Nintendo releases every generation.
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Because they can since their fan boys keep buying their shit. How else will they play the same 10 or so games that Nintendo releases every generation.
Gotta love posts like this who arent pretending to hide their intentions.
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Ivany2008 posted...
Ability to cast to a television, which would allow DS/3DS functionality (doesn't need to be powerful, just give devs the option to do that)
This isn't something I ever thought about before honestly, but I want this so much now.
R_Jackal posted...
This isn't something I ever thought about before honestly, but I want this so much now.

If you want some sort of idea how it works, Crystal Chronicles for the Gamecube kind of did a version of it. If you had the Gameboy player you could connect your GBA to the Gamecube and it would act as a menu screen.
CRON posted...
Docked performance (on-paper) in between a PS4 Pro and Xbox Series S


now they're playing with power.
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
will it finally beat ps3 graphics from 18 years ago?
The Switch 1 already does that.
TheGoldenEel posted...
Breath of The Wild and Super Mario Odyssey, basically the only games they made for Switch that had any degree of innovation
what other games do everything that tears of the kingdom does (ascend, ultrahand, recording 30 seconds of history for every loaded object in a scene, physics based sound system, etc)?
legendarylemur posted...
This entire topic, people massively overrate how the PS3 used to look lmao. It'll be like one of those things where you go back and realize holy shit, these games all look super dated now, but because a lot of games on PS3 didn't age well and offer too little past their graphics, nobody has played a PS3 game in eons to truly know for sure.
+1

The amount of screen tearing that generation had is revolting. And the framerates were significantly unstable and far worse overall than the Switch. Even hitting 720p was a challenge and rare. Halo 3 ran at 1152x640 for instance. I think some people played that whole generation on a CRT which masked a lot of its very evident flaws, or they weren't yet addicted to binging DigitalFoundry coverage for the wrong reasons.
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I like how the people moaning about the idea of Nintendo not having a super high end console don't really speak much on how these high end consoles with Xbox and PS5 are starving for new games right now halfway into their lifespan.
ImAMarvel posted...
CRON posted...
Handheld performance (on-paper) slightly superior to a standard PS4
Docked performance (on-paper) in between a PS4 Pro and Xbox Series S

Ehhh

We couldn't get something closer to PS5/Xbox Series X?
Seriously... It's been 3.5 years since PS5 released. How is this thing going to release with worse performance than a Series S?

Those first party games better be amazing and it needs full backwards compatibility.
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ImAMarvel posted...
Ehhh

We couldn't get something closer to PS5/Xbox Series X?

There would be no reason to get those other systems then. Even now many casuals are still on previous gen because the supposed current gen is so lackluster.
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
will it finally beat ps3 graphics from 18 years ago?
where do people get this idea from?Tegra k1 which is weaker then x1 was Already as good as 360/ps3 games.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbTxgfFEEM

X1 is more powerful then ps3 and 360 while being more energy efficient.A new Terra will be light years ahead of ps3/360.
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XxZiomaxX posted...
Seriously... It's been 3.5 years since PS5 released. How is this thing going to release with worse performance than a Series S?
The same way PSP and DS launched with worse performance than the PS2 and Gamecube. And, really, all handhelds vs their respective consoles...
You felt your sins weighing on your neck.
The people here crying about Nintendo opting for "weaker" hardware was never going to buy the Nintendo console to begin with. Their concerns should be disposed of and not even be acknowledged at this point.

It's 20 years of this, folks. Y'all got kids to worry about. Go do some parenting instead of being here.
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BTW you guys understand the switch is a MOBILE arm gaming handheld device right? The idea that you can get PS5 level performance on gaming handheld for sub-600 is delusional. Steam Deck, Rog Ally, many other gaming handhelds don't come close to that.

Even modern top tier apple iphones struggle to keep up with PS4-level graphics on AAA gaming. That's not even accounting for the battery and thermal throttling to mainstain those level graphics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFsy4mb3T1w

You would need something M-series Apple and Qualcomm Snapdragon Elite to be even come close to Xbox Series/ps5 performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxl2X3B9fx0

Anybody who think Nintendo Switch 2 is underspec doesn't know what thier talking about. It's already superior to the AMD APU handhelds.
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Ivany2008 posted...
If you want some sort of idea how it works, Crystal Chronicles for the Gamecube kind of did a version of it. If you had the Gameboy player you could connect your GBA to the Gamecube and it would act as a menu screen.

The Wii U also sort of did something similar for certain games
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
The switch was underpowered on release. Its been 7 years since then.

From a technical sense this makes the most sense by far
I dont know why people cant figure out what hes saying. Hes basically asking why release another console thets nearly a decade out of date when it releases. Basically, hes saying these specs are garbage and it should be far more powerful than this or they shouldnt bother.
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PraetorXyn posted...
I dont know why people cant figure out what hes saying. Hes basically asking why release another console thets nearly a decade out of date when it releases. Basically, hes saying these specs are garbage and it should be far more powerful than this or they shouldnt bother.
Because its still a big leap from the current switch? Thats why what he posted doesnt make any sense. I want a more powerful switch, thats what this successor is going to be.

You think its more reasonable that nintendo continues trying to develop for the regular switch than release a more powerful one, even if its less powerful than its rival consoles? Where were you during the Wii years, or the wii u years, or even now during the switch years?

Hee Ho
People expect Nintendo consoles to be powerful?
The only by that time powerful console they ever did was the Gamecube, and it got beaten by a GeForce 3!
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