Ronald Reagan vs Donald Trump - which was the worst US president of all time?

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Trump by a landslide
FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
Im not going to be so quick to dismiss Mr. Spoils System Let the Supreme Court enforce the Worchester vs Georgia and screw the national bank from this particular conversation.

lol what
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IceCreamOnStero posted...
The fact that every other president would've been just as eager to do war crimes doesn't justify or absolve Bush of his war crimes in any way.

Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden would've all replicated each other's war crimes if they had a chance. That doesn't mean any of them get a free pass for the war crimes they did get the chance to do, its just a separate indictment for each.

I don't think it absolves him by any means, but I don't think it's unreasonable to measure bad presidents by "terribleness above replacement" to modify the baseball term.
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Mystery_man2 posted...
Trump by a landslide

only people who say this don't realize how truly awful reagan made this country for the working class

Trump might be a more selfish and outwardly distasteful individual, but Reagan doomed future generations of the working poor to near eternal poverty with very little hope of materially improving their lives
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
only people who say this don't realize how truly awful reagan made this country for the working class

Trump might be a more selfish and outwardly distasteful individual, but Reagan doomed future generations of the working poor to near eternal poverty with very little hope of materially improving their lives
Nah. I'd have been long adamant that W was worse than Trump and Reagan was even worse than W untill january 6 2021. That one singular event was so destructive to our own country that you have to go back to 1850s & 1860s to find shit to compare it to.
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Agent_Stroud posted...
45 never happened, I take it?
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
lol what
He spitting facts about the worst president of all time.

"Oh, Trump would've genocide'd the Native Americans too if he could get away with it!"
I don't really care about hypotheticals, it's just a massive slippery slope. Andrew Jackson was a very violent angry person that loved dueling and shooting people. He probably would've shot every single political enemy of his in the head if he could get away with it.
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
lol what

Slept through US History I did you?
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Eh, whatever.
People saying theres other presidents that were worse but lets be honest, if Trump lived during those presidents times I think hed give them a damn good run for their money if he wasnt just outright worse.

Regan had more impact with his actual moves but Trump is no question the most vile president likely in history. Were only lucky he happened in an age where there was enough obstacles and visibility to keep him from doing anything worse.
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FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
Slept through US History I did you?

nah, just thought i misread your post (still think i am...?) that supreme court decision was absolutely correct and Jackson basically overrode the courts rulings
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the baseline for president is "war criminal" it ends up being measuring levels of evil and fun as that is, not exactly a productive task

not a single good person amongst them
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
the baseline for president is "war criminal" it ends up being measuring levels of evil and fun as that is, not exactly a productive task

not a single good person amongst them

Jimmy Carter
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
the baseline for president is "war criminal" it ends up being measuring levels of evil and fun as that is, not exactly a productive task

not a single good person amongst them
Jimmy Carter begs to differ.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Jimmy Carter

PraetorXyn posted...
Jimmy Carter begs to differ.

According to Noam Chomsky:

Carter was the least violent of American presidents but he did things which I think would certainly fall under Nuremberg provisions. As the Indonesian atrocities increased to a level of really near-genocide, the U.S. aid under Carter increased. It reached a peak in 1978 as the atrocities peaked.
Dark_Arbron posted...
According to Noam Chomsky:
I think that was more Suharto pulling the wool over his eyes than actual malice on Carter's part.
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According to Noam Chomsky:
Not exactly a great barometer.

ai123 posted...
Trump is the inevitable consequence of Reagan.
This true. And the hardest part of this comparison, since we've had 4 decades to feel the effects of Reagan. Trump's won't be known for much longer. THAT SAID, the absurd rush to the Right/authoritarism, the damage to the US standing and it's institutions as whole, etc. show the massive amount of damage Trump has inflicted in a relatively short time. There's also the fact that Reagan was at least a real politician, who thought he was doing good. Trump may be the dumbest person on the planet.
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ForsakenHermit posted...
I think that was more Suharto pulling the wool over his eyes than actual malice on Carter's part.

I definitely agree it sounds like hes on the mild end compared to most others. I think part of the problem is luck of the draw - when a conflict starts up and US interests are involved, the sitting president will be the one to order support/sanctions and thus it will go on their CV so to speak.

Harry Truman signed off on the atomic bombings, but I have no doubt FDR would have done the same.
CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Not exactly a great barometer.

Why not?

Dark_Arbron posted...
According to Noam Chomsky:

I believe the CIA was responsible for this one. Any time there's some civil strife in central/South America or South East Asia, the CIA is probably behind it.
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Trump wouldn't exist without Reagan, I think we can all agree there.

Reagan was the catalyst to America's decline.
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ZMythos posted...
Trump wouldn't exist without Reagan, I think we can all agree there.

Reagan was the catalyst to America's decline.
This. Hell, Trump ran on Raegans playbook for fucks sake. MAGA was literally Reagans slogan.
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VeggetaX posted...
Did Reagan have this same kind of cult level of loyalists? I wonder if all those people who voted for Reagan still believes in him to this day.

They did, and they do.

There are many Boomers that say Reagan was the best President in their lifetime.

I have a co-worker that is so obsessed with him, her daughter's middle name is Reagan.

I wish I was joking.
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VeggetaX posted...
Did Reagan have this same kind of cult level of loyalists? I wonder if all those people who voted for Reagan still believes in him to this day.
Yes.
Reagan still has a huge fanbase, and not just for that monkey film.
Reagan did the most damage, but Trump dealt the finishing blow
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Returning_CEmen posted...
Andrew Johnson
Johnson laid the tracks for Reagan and Trump, he is a lesson on how Conservative appeasement is a direct pipeline to fascism.
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Yes.
Reagan still has a huge fanbase, and not just for that monkey film.

"Bedtime for Bonzo"

I think even his most ardent supporters will admit that every film he did was shit. Every. Damn. One. It was even a punchline in Airplane! . I actually tried to get through a couple, thinking maybe all the criticism was partisan. No, they're that bad.

I wonder if current MAGA people know that Reagan not only helped bankroll a film with drag in it ( This is the Army ), he was also a star in the flick.
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brestugo posted...
I think even his most ardent supporters will admit that every film he did was shit.
Knute Rockne is still a classic
Questionmarktarius posted...
Knute Rockne is still a classic

Fair.
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ZMythos posted...
Reagan was worse

But Andrew Johnson is probably the worst of them all. Southern "Appeasement" and shitting on Reconstruction which set back black Americans getting rights by decades.

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