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Accolon
11/04/25 11:02:10 PM
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None of us really like turkey, so this year we're doing something different. Apparently it's up to me to figure out what that something is.

Ham is also a no-go

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sabin017
11/04/25 11:03:27 PM
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Tofurkey

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PissedOffMonk
11/04/25 11:04:11 PM
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I've been doing prime rib instead of turkey these last couple of years.
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specialkid8
11/04/25 11:04:29 PM
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We had a brisket one year

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Dungeater
11/04/25 11:05:24 PM
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Goose, roast beef, salmon

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kingdrake2
11/04/25 11:05:45 PM
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cooking with hamburger meat or pizza.

not set in stone yet.

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vycebrand2
11/04/25 11:07:56 PM
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Yeah prime rib. I think the last time I celebrated Thanksgiving with my sister before she passed was in 2012 and thats what we had. I had restaurant experience cooking it before. So I cooked it for them.

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K181
11/04/25 11:13:03 PM
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No offense, but if none of you like turkey, it sounds like none of you know how to properly cook a turkey. Its absolutely delicious when prepared properly, especially with the bonus of turkey gravy and stuffing.

But eh, just go with the easier chicken then.

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LordDemonWolf
11/04/25 11:15:08 PM
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Pizza.

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Sariana21
11/04/25 11:15:41 PM
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French onion soup and/or corn chowder

salmon

meatballs with a variety of sauces/gravies

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ablegator
11/04/25 11:17:06 PM
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My daughter is pescatarian and we always do salmon along with turkey.

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Strider102
11/04/25 11:17:26 PM
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Lasagna

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Kanaya413
11/04/25 11:18:38 PM
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Chinese take out

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IronChef_Kirby
11/04/25 11:23:43 PM
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My family does steaks for Thanksgiving, though I imagine that only works because it's just immediate family and never extended family.

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TMOG
11/04/25 11:24:45 PM
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We've done tacos the last few years and everyone agrees it's better, easier, and more fun than turkey

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Sariana21
11/04/25 11:25:34 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Lasagna
I almost put lasagna on my list but hesitated because of the high starch content of other classic foods.

TC, what side dishes are you having? Traditional potatoes, corn, stuffing? Or are you looking for a completely different menu?

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Bleuets
11/04/25 11:39:22 PM
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Tamales
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monkmith
11/04/25 11:52:05 PM
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honestly i like making stew, its probably the route i'm going this year.

last year i smoked a brisket. honestly i dont understand the love so many people shower it with. its good, but its not really any better then a good steak or burger.

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SauI_Goodman
11/05/25 12:02:31 AM
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Pb&j sandwiches.

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ReturnOfDevsman
11/05/25 12:20:47 AM
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Either go with ribeye or really lean into the unconventional angle with like drunken noodles or something.

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kingdrake2
11/05/25 1:13:31 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Pb&j sandwiches.


can do those on wheat bread. with raspberry jelly or grape (not strawberry) that one kinda sucks to me :(.

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Glob
11/05/25 1:21:46 AM
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K181 posted...
No offense, but if none of you like turkey, it sounds like none of you know how to properly cook a turkey. Its absolutely delicious when prepared properly, especially with the bonus of turkey gravy and stuffing.

But eh, just go with the easier chicken then.

Nah, turkey isnt fantastic. Edible? Sure. But its not good.

And before you say that I dont know how to cook, Ive worked in two Michelin starred kitchens and I won a national competition for professional chefs for three consecutive years. The general feeling among high end chefs is that turkey is poor.

Of course, that doesnt mean that you cant like it. I hope you enjoy eating it. But its not necessarily an issue of cooking skill.
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JohnEtrav
11/05/25 1:24:34 AM
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Ive been making jambalaya for Thanksgiving as a new tradition for a few years now.

I make a huge amount and we eat it till we cant stand it anymore, then I might do a batch of gumbo.

This year I might fry some oysters too.

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DoesntMatter
11/05/25 1:24:43 AM
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i feel like prime rib has become the go-to alternate Thanksgiving main course in recent years

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Humble_Novice
11/05/25 1:26:49 AM
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Shotgunnova
11/05/25 1:30:53 AM
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Biscuits & Gravy

It doesn't seem like a main course, but that's because you're thinking small scale.

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BlueKat
11/05/25 1:32:15 AM
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Accolon posted...
None of us really like turkey
I like turkey

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KJ_StErOiDs
11/05/25 1:32:20 AM
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Chinese buffet

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BlueKat
11/05/25 1:34:06 AM
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KJ_StErOiDs posted...
Chinese buffet
That's for Christmas

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archizzy
11/05/25 1:35:35 AM
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I feel like if you are going to stray from a classic it should be for something that that is truly a rare dish, at least to me. Id do beef Wellington. A classy upscale dish that most people rarely have. Also I feel like it would still pair with the traditional sides quite well and its delicious.

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Tyranthraxus
11/05/25 1:50:04 AM
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Here's my suggestions, trying to keep this American...

  1. Venison - it's illegal to farm in some places so you might have to hunt (either literally or for a provider) for it.
  2. Alligator - hard to find, difficult to carve if you've never done it before. You can maybe try a fillet. I have no idea how much that would cost but it would be pretty expensive.
  3. Duck - you're going to need two to make up for the size of a turkey. Highly controversial because of how greasy it can be.
  4. Lobster - cheap ish. Not really "Thanksgiving" but very American!
  5. Alaskan King Crab - basically lobster except it costs twice as much
  6. Rabbit - it's like a small chicken. You'll need 1 for every two people at dinner minimum. Rabbit is one of the most common meat of early America because they were easy to trap.
  7. The least favorite person in the family - invite them a day early so you have enough time to prepare and avoid discussing what's for dinner until they arrive.

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Awakened_Link
11/05/25 2:46:36 AM
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Grill up some steaks.

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The_cranky_hermit
11/05/25 3:07:30 AM
#34:


Glob posted...
Nah, turkey isnt fantastic. Edible? Sure. But its not good.

And before you say that I dont know how to cook, Ive worked in two Michelin starred kitchens and I won a national competition for professional chefs for three consecutive years. The general feeling among high end chefs is that turkey is poor.
Turkey done right is fantastic. But nearly everyone is bad at it. And no, just because you cook professionally doesn't automatically mean you are good at turkey - commercial kitchens have to be economical, and cooking enormous birds for several hours isn't.

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Tyranthraxus
11/05/25 3:09:01 AM
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The_cranky_hermit posted...
Turkey done right is fantastic. But nearly everyone is bad at it. And no, just because you cook professionally doesn't automatically mean you are good at turkey - cooking enormous birds is not an economically sound option for commercial restaurants, so they don't do it.
Everyone who hates Turkey I'm like "did you brine it?" And they're like "what's brine?"

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gigageek1500
11/05/25 3:14:23 AM
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When we decided we "didn't know how to cook" turkey we went with salmon. Found a recipe with cranberries that seemed appropriate and we've stuck with it

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Glob
11/05/25 3:20:15 AM
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The_cranky_hermit posted...
Turkey done right is fantastic. But nearly everyone is bad at it. And no, just because you cook professionally doesn't automatically mean you are good at turkey - commercial kitchens have to be economical, and cooking enormous birds for several hours isn't.

Dude, the level of professional cooking Im talking about, all costs are just passed on to the customer.

Like I said before, nothing wrong with liking what you like. But plenty of people who are much better cooks than you think its a poor bird. Thats just the reality. I dont know why it upsets you so much.
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The_cranky_hermit
11/05/25 3:26:48 AM
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Every level of commercial cooking needs to be cost-effective. Even ones where the cost is "passed on to the customer." Nobody's paying hundreds of dollars for a meal that isn't typically associated with gourmet dining.

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_Valigarmanda_
11/05/25 3:46:01 AM
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Kanaya413 posted...
Chinese take out


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rexcrk
11/05/25 3:56:02 AM
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Whatever you like to eat? Idk why people complicate their meals so unnecessarily lol.

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FurryPhilosifer
11/05/25 3:57:59 AM
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Vegetarian nut roast or vegetarian haggis is great.

Gammon is amazing, but if that's a no-go, you could just go for a chicken. Or a bit of beef. Roasts work with loads of meats. Sausages.

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DodogamaRayBrst
11/05/25 4:01:35 AM
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Duck, obviously.
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The_Nintendo_Master
11/05/25 4:02:17 AM
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Once you have good deep fried turkey you find yourself wishing you could just have it again
But since not turkey - is the cost a problem? Why not order catering from a place like Mission BBQ for some pulled pork the day before and then just heat it up?
If you want something relatively easy to feed a bunch of people, buy some frozen meatballs, premade sauce, then whatever else you might want for toppings and heat up the meatballs in the sauce in a crock pot or something.
A totally different option would be getting some golden curry and making Japanese curry, it goes together fairly quickly depending on what you do for the meat.
Two years ago my extended family just sort of gave up on Thanksgiving, so my parents and I started going to a nice buffet for Thanksgiving and I'm not gonna lie, I legit look forward to Thanksgiving more than I have in years, so there's that option too, but once again, if you're going for a budget, this isn't the best option.

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Glob
11/05/25 4:09:00 AM
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The_cranky_hermit posted...
Every level of commercial cooking needs to be cost-effective. Even ones where the cost is "passed on to the customer." Nobody's paying hundreds of dollars for a meal that isn't typically associated with gourmet dining.

Youre really not getting it, are you?
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sfcalimari
11/05/25 4:09:22 AM
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Cranberry Sauce

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Tora_Sami
11/05/25 4:13:43 AM
#46:


Strider102 posted...
Lasagna

Lasagna and stuffing sounds tight!

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The_cranky_hermit
11/05/25 4:44:22 AM
#47:


Glob posted...
Youre really not getting it, are you?
I think I do. Another poster said that turkey-haters just don't know how to cook it. That prompted you to come in here and start talking about your experience with Michelin-starred restaurants. Ergo, despite your projections, you're the one who got upset. Like you're threatened by the notion that you don't know how to cook turkey.

Well, you don't. And there's no reason to be upset by that. Commercial cooking and home cooking are different skills! Professional cooks have no reason to practice dishes that take all day and don't bring in money. You're claiming the equivalent of "charcoal-grilled burgers are trash, and that's not a me issue because I've made beef wellington for years," but in reality that's just not how it works.

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Glob
11/05/25 5:09:40 AM
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The_cranky_hermit posted...
I think I do.

And thats the issue.

The_cranky_hermit posted...
Another poster said that turkey-haters just don't know how to cook it. That prompted you to come in here and start talking about your experience with Michelin-starred restaurants. Ergo, despite your projections, you're the one who got upset. Like you're threatened by the notion that you don't know how to cook turkey.

Well, you don't. And there's no reason to be upset by that. Commercial cooking and home cooking are different skills! Professional cooks have no reason to practice dishes that take all day and don't bring in money. You're claiming the equivalent of "charcoal-grilled burgers are trash, and that's not a me issue because I've made beef wellington for years," but in reality that's just not how it works.

Im not upset; Im just correcting somebody. Honestly, your lack of understanding is quite funny to me.

Commercial cooking and home cooking are different skills. But commercial cooks of a high standard are capable of being amazing home cooks and it often doesnt work the other way round. Also, you keep acting like commercial kitchens dont cook turkeys because they cant make money from them, despite the fact that they do cook them and do make money from them.

I also never said anything was trash. I said it wasnt great. Of course, anything can be elevated a bit in skilled hands. But its still not a popular bird with chefs (and yes, they know how to cook it).

As Ive said all along, youre perfectly welcome to like it. I hope you do. But claiming that people who dont like it just dont know how to cook it when some of the best cooks in the world arent fans would suggest that thats not true. Of course, it may be true for some. Im sure theres people out there whove never had good turkey. But theres also people who have but dont rate it.

But, to be honest, nothing Ive stated is really up for debate and I get the impression that your understanding of the discussion is pretty low, so Im not going to respond any further to you.

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11/05/25 5:23:59 AM
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slacker03150
11/05/25 7:10:17 AM
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Glob posted...
But plenty of people who are much better cooks than you think its a poor bird.

out of curiosity, what are considered the good birds? Off the top of my head Ive had goose, duck, pheasant, chicken, and turkey. I havent had peacock, but knew a guy who farmed them and he said they taste like pheasant. Sadly he only sold them as pets and not as a food source so I could not buy a bird off him.

while they have all had different tastes, I wouldnt really put one as better than the other. It all depends on how it is cooked.

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