Current Events > Charlie Kirk killer caught: Topic 8

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I know they spelled his name in the sky but uhhh...

He ain't gonna be able to see that where he is.

The Guardian is a British newspaper. Britain is the TERF capital of the world, and every single political party and media institutuion has decided to back them at this point. The Guardian constantly tries to demonise trans people.

Oh yeah, there's sooooooo many grifting crypto coins out there right now

Crypto world loves this kind of thing

Oh, yeah, the gifting doesn't shock me. It's just weird Candace OWens is like the one person who's acting like she lost a friend

She has always seemed slightly less focused on the grift than being batshit insane than most of them.

I wish that the average citizen was intelligent enough to spot what's happening here with the narrative of this story, because it's extremely obvious.

Like, the narrative has gone from "There was TRANS IDEOLOGY printed on the bullets!" (which was proven to be just a standard TRN thing printed on bullets) to "Well maybe the shooter was trans anyway!" (then it ended up being a cis white dude) to "Look! Look! The roommate could be trans!"

It's blindingly obvious that the right is trying really hard to spin this narrative against trans people even as it continues to fall apart. I feel like this would be a really, really easy shot for someone to see these people continuously trying to find an angle to attack minorities without any evidence and maybe even think more deeply about it and realize that a lot of the negative things being said about trans people, or more broadly LGBTQ+ people or really any minority group, are just wrong and being spun out of thin air by people with agendas.

Will they? No. I don't have faith that the people who buy into these lies and find themselves getting scared of whatever group that Fox News tells them to fear at that point are intelligent enough to stop and see what's really transparently happening here, but I wish they would. It's really clear if you think through how the narrative keeps shifting and how the attacks keep coming that this is being weaponized against trans people and that the GOP is looking for any way to keep that going, but I still don't know that people are going to see that.

The cultists are a lost cause. I'm more irritated by the "moderates" et al. These people stubbornly resist the obvious conclusion that the US right is axiomatically dishonest -- it is literally an Empire of Lies.

Nothing a right winger says can be believed without independent confirmation by a non-Republican source.

Candace is absolutely a grifter, she used to be a leftist before realising right wing grifting was more profitable.

Did she? I've never seen anything left wing from her.

Oh, yeah, the gifting doesn't shock me. It's just weird Candace OWens is like the one person who's acting like she lost a friend

Is she aware that there's, like, three or four reasons why Chuckles considered her subhuman?

it's insane that right wingers are equating his death to 9/11
I don't use facebook much anymore aside from posting happy birthday to friends but I saw a notification pop up from someone that I was previously friended with
she was saying that 24 years ago, the nation was united but now she's had more than 20 people unfriend her recently due to her stance, and she can't believe that liberals can't put their differences aside to mourn the loss of someone like charlie kirk

So I missed stuff. Has anyone gotten any more info on the Utah governor saying that the roommate was transitioning?

It doesn't even sound like he's blaming the roommate, making it clear she's being cooperative, and had no clue what was happening....though you know that's not going to change anything about how people react.

I think we really, country-wide, have to suffer tremendously to get moderates to finally wake up to the threats around them that are growing around them, and stop trusting the right for good. Suffer as in the economy tanks, everything gets more expensive, diseases running wild, climate change getting much worse, gun violence reaching their inner circle, etc.

I think we really, country-wide, have to suffer tremendously to get moderates to finally wake up to the threats around them that are growing around them, and stop trusting the right for good. Suffer as in the economy tanks, everything gets more expensive, diseases running wild, climate change getting much worse, gun violence reaching their inner circle, etc.

It's so frustrating to see a lot of people continue to be sheep through all this. Herded by what their media tells them. Unfortunately, we're gonna have to weather through this level of dumbassery for the foreseeable future, until something changes.

At what point do people recognize this is not a recipe for leftist victory?

Twice now, moderate centrist Democrats have led directly to a Trump victory. How do you reconcile that with your pro centrist views?

1. Neither Clinton nor Harris were centrists
2. Neither were SEEN as centrists. Both were considered part of the Left and in 2024, Trump was viewed as more moderate than Harris
3. The only person to beat Trump was a moderate Democrats who then governed well to the left of what was expected
4. At no point has "things getting REALLY BAD!" led to victory of the left. At. No. Point. The idea "suffering tremendously" means leftist victories has been comprehensively disproven.

1. Neither Clinton nor Harris were centrists
2. Neither were SEEN as centrists. Both were considered part of the Left and in 2024, Trump was viewed as more moderate than Harris
3. The only person to beat Trump was a moderate Democrats who then governed well to the left of what was expected
4. At no point has "things getting REALLY BAD!" led to victory of the left. At. No. Point. The idea "suffering tremendously" means leftist victories has been comprehensively disproven.

Clinton, Harris, Obama and Biden were all centrists, and none of them were remotely left wing.

They were seen as part of the left due to propaganda.

Obama in particular governed far to the right of what he campaigned on, and his presidency is what led to Trump being elected for the first time.

The Democrat Party is not a left-wing party overall, and all four of these candidates were very standard moderate Democrats.

Oh course Hell has Windows.

Vista, to be precise.

Having lived in Europe and the US, and experienced what things like healthcare and workers rights are like in both, I cannot see the Democratic party as left wing by western standards. Living in Tory Britain I had more workers rights than I did under Biden's America.

I live in Texas right now. I know Tory Britain did dismantle workers rights. The point I was making is that things were still better in Tory Britain than they are for me right now in Texas. I worked the same job in both countries, and in Britain I had more time off, greater protection from dismissal, and more freedom to take sick days without jeopardising my employment. Maybe things are different in blue states, but I don't live in one currently.

The Democrats are to the left socially of any mainstream political party in Britain, but Britain is a particularly bad case where TERFs and the right were able to capture the entirity of the media and use them to pump out anti trans and anti immigrant outrage fuel on a daily basis. And the Democrats seem to be moving in that direction too based on some recent comments, though they aren't fully there yet.

International travel is really not expensive when you have family in multiple countries and don't have to pay for accomodation costs if you visit.

You live in a GOP state. You acknowledge the absolute ruin the Tories have made of the British workers' rights and welfare system, but it never occurred to you while blaming Democrats that it might be different in a blue state? You've never looked this up? Never compared them?

You said you lived there. Hive, how many people in the world can afford to move internationally both ways?

The Democratic party is center-left on economic issues for mainstream political western parties and considerably more left on social issues for which they have paid a real price.

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Translation: "please donate at Turning Point USA..."

No translation needed. She literally begged people to visit the website and give during this speech

The hypocrisy is astounding.

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Opportunists are already churning out a ton of propaganda videos about this, continuing to demonize or blame "the Left" for Kirk's death, pushing the envelope even further towards violent outbursts. No one seems capable of convincing them that "the hate is coming from within the house".

They're pushing anti trans narrative HARD

I did look up certain things, and I found that most states are at will employment, where you can be fired at any time for any reason. No states have mandatory holiday allowances.