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LightSnake
08/02/25 2:19:47 PM
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https://x.com/Variety/status/1951674373603242140

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Hexenherz
08/02/25 2:20:43 PM
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Sounds like it dropped by a fantastic four... Fifths LOL

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BlueTigerLion
08/02/25 2:21:15 PM
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How much did Superman drop?

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08/02/25 2:21:31 PM
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LightSnake
08/02/25 2:22:01 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
How much did Superman drop?

54 percent.

F4 had a much bigger drop

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Dungeater
08/02/25 2:22:26 PM
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I can't imagine any excitement driving it. It was actually the dullest film I've seen in theaters in a very long time. Maybe since Wonder Woman, maybe Prometheus

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SwayM
08/02/25 2:33:07 PM
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Dungeater posted...
It was actually the dullest film I've seen in theaters in a very long time.

Disgustingly bad take.

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Evolician
08/02/25 2:35:31 PM
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Puglia77
08/02/25 2:36:06 PM
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I don't know anything about this movie. Is this a sequel to the Fantastic 4 from 2005? Or a remake?

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Blue_Popo
08/02/25 2:45:45 PM
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This is an unfair number but still not good

Last Friday includes Thursday preview numbers.

The weekend is aiming for 60% plus drop which isn't good

It's a good movie but of the 5 people I know that watches it. 2 loved it, 2 like it and one was meh on it.

I think it will ultimately be a plus for the MCU due to quality but not a blow away win. I think people saying "fantastic four/X-Men will save MCU" have always been wrong, consistent quality will.

Also released too close to superman. The industry as is can't support 2 comic book movies that close to each other and superman clearly hit with audiences more (as someone who preferred f4)

Also having thunderbolts be on streaming would have helped. I'm sure when people see how good that movie is, it'll motivate them to go out and give marvel another chance
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KhlavicLanguage
08/02/25 2:50:44 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
I think people saying "fantastic four/X-Men will save MCU" have always been wrong
Yeah, I never really understood it. I feel like the people who care about X-Men are kind of a bubble and tend to overestimate how much normies care about them. Which, when it comes to comic book movies I think I'm the "normie" since my prior knowledge of them was watching some of the cartoons as a kid and buying maybe 1 or 2 comics ever.

I bothered to go see Brave New World cuz the Red Hulk looked cool.

I didn't see F4. I might stream it in 6 months.

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__aCEr__
08/02/25 2:54:32 PM
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I think this is just the way most movie releases are going to be as time marches on. Everybody who is super excited about a film will go and see it opening weekend but the overwhelming majority of people are willing to just wait a few months and watch it when it hits a streaming service they are already paying for.

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Blue_Popo
08/02/25 2:59:46 PM
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None of those movies came close to one billion in peak comic book movie era.

Yes they are popular but automatic saviors they are not
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Ivynn
08/02/25 3:00:35 PM
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Deadpool & Wolverine made a billion, after all.

But remember Marvel did some serious damage to both F4's and X-Men's cultural cache by devaluing them for 10 years because they lacked the movie rights. X-Men is still popular, but not the cultural juggernaut they were in the 90s because of this. Compare this with Spider-man who kept a consistent and supported presence since forever and remains Marvel's top hero.

So Marvel has to take some blame. They need to build them back up again.

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Blue_Popo
08/02/25 3:01:30 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
I think this is just the way most movie releases are going to be as time marches on. Everybody who is super excited about a film will go and see it opening weekend but the overwhelming majority of people are willing to just wait a few months and watch it when it hits a streaming service they are already paying for.

This is the right take

There's only been one movie to cross one billion and it was Lilo and stitch which also crawled there. I mean there's also ne zha but that just hit the Chinese industry by storm

Even Jurassic will have been down 200-300 mil from the last one

Box office is tough now
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chris1001_the_sequel
08/02/25 3:09:21 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
This is an unfair number but still not good

Last Friday includes Thursday preview numbers.

Yea, but this is standard now. All first weekend box office numbers include Thursday previews.

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KhlavicLanguage
08/02/25 3:10:03 PM
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I've never gotten a good answer as to why he was given so many chances.

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TheGoldenEel
08/02/25 3:23:00 PM
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Didnt F4 do all these things

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Pikachuchupika
08/02/25 3:31:18 PM
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F4 fatigue maybe?
Released too close to Superman

Deadpool and wolverine made 1.3 b. Spider-man No way home made 1.9b. People still watch Marvel, but I guess they want specific kinds of Marvel.

Expect Doomsday to hit 2B.
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lilORANG
08/02/25 3:35:24 PM
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Pedro as Reed is terrible casting lol. Wtf.

Glad Julia Garner is getting work tho. Ruth is an all time great performance

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DrizztLink
08/02/25 3:35:51 PM
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That hardly seems fair.

They have a speedster.

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chris1001_the_sequel
08/02/25 3:38:27 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
F4 fatigue maybe?
Released too close to Superman

Deadpool and wolverine made 1.3 b. Spider-man No way home made 1.9b. People still watch Marvel, but I guess they want specific kinds of Marvel.

Expect Doomsday to hit 2B.

Different levels of popularity. This was never going to be on the same level as those movies. Both of those films individually made more than the previous fantastic four films combined (probably same or at least close to even adjusting for inflation).
People were always going to turn out for a Spider Man film, they were always going to turn out for Deadpool. Marvel's problem is that they are still acting like it's the mid 2010's where they can put out literally anything with the Marvel name and it will perform in the upper hundreds of millions. That hasn't been the case for a while, and with the way the industry is right now, it will never be that way again. Marvel is going to keep losing money on these movies until the realize that and start budgeting things accordingly. If Guardians 1 had come out today, we'd likely be seeing the same box office woes.

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lilORANG
08/02/25 3:42:57 PM
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chris1001_the_sequel posted...
Different levels of popularity. This was never going to be on the same level as those movies. Both of those films individually made more than the previous fantastic four films combined (probably same or at least close to even adjusting for inflation).
People were always going to turn out for a Spider Man film, they were always going to turn out for Deadpool. Marvel's problem is that they are still acting like it's the mid 2010's where they can put out literally anything with the Marvel name and it will perform in the upper hundreds of millions. That hasn't been the case for a while, and with the way the industry is right now, it will never be that way again. Marvel is going to keep losing money on these movies until the realize that and start budgeting things accordingly. If Guardians 1 had come out today, we'd likely be seeing the same box office woes.
Different levels of popularity but a similar budget. $250 million movies are part of the problem.

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BlueBoy675
08/02/25 3:47:06 PM
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I also think part of it is the economy is so fucking bad nobody wants to spend money to go see a movie they can just watch later at home. And if you want my opinion, with how nice hope setups can be nowadays the appeal of the big screen is kinda diminished

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Dungeater
08/02/25 3:47:07 PM
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SwayM posted...
Disgustingly bad take.
it's fine if you disagree. i'm not claiming to be an authority or anything. saw it last week and made what i thought was a pretty fair and decent write-up of it here

(contains spoilers)

so i saw this with my husband. neither of us was interested in the movie but we went in with no expectations and an open mind. we'd both heard decent buzz beforehand

i wanna say this now so no one gets the wrong idea - the movie was not shit, the movie was not bad. this thread is not to dump on a shitty movie

this was perhaps the most by-the-numbers movie ive ever seen. at no point did i feel the awe and wonder of "aw yeah, im at the movies". and i feel that shit for everything

sterile is close to a good word for it. i think limp or soulless is better though. the movie has one sequence i liked (divorced from narrative, or maybe more in spite of it)

none of the characters felt organic and had chemistry with each other except for the Thing. the whole movie i was thinking "i feel so bad for these actors".

this movie has the typical marvel insecurity too. you know, that "yeah, dont worry guys. we know this shit is stupid" that id hoped we were growing out of. the 5 minute moleman scene at the baxter building was the quintessential example, plus his dirt quip

i am not sure why they went with Galactus. he didnt destroy the world, he didnt leave lasting impact. his loss was unearned. the surfer is all over the place in this movie. and it was weird from a movie standpoint to have johnny linguist his way into an alien language that sounds like italian. and then overload her with quotes til she leaves the movie until the last second and punches galactus

there was one moment where it almost seemed like they were all gonna come together against galactus, but it was really just "ok puuuush" plus human torch doing some fireballs and mr fantastic unscrewing his energy

i think there really needed to be a scene where they ALL worked together. go full ham and cheese bro. have reed stretch across buildings like tripwire, have sue push galactus slowly into it, as reed stretches to his limit, *then* have johnny drop the thing onto galactus for that cannonball, finally pushing him back into the portal

dude there were so many weird 10-15 min noncommittal plots. we hate you fantastic four, kill your child. work together on teleporting the world. baby bait trap

ugh

i have zero respect for this film as a piece of art or as a piece of entertainment. i almost fell asleep, my husband almost fell asleep. we were in awe of how much of a "product" it felt like

and god that car seat joke went on for 70% too long

the fakeout death and baby resuscitation

that was so unearned man. and im so sick of "character who got revived does incredibly loud and arduous gasp of air"

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Charged151
08/02/25 3:47:33 PM
#32:


KhlavicLanguage posted...
I've never gotten a good answer as to why he was given so many chances.
Regarding Snyder, part of it was DCEU had false starts already (Green Lantern) and they latched onto the first director that could make something decent, which I think is a fair rating for Man of Steel.

Granted, he was undermined immediately. The top down decision to force Batman into the next movie resulted in the disastrous BvS movie, which was made worse when stupid executives demanded its runtime be cur by a 1/2 hour. And then Justice League happened. If we got something analogous to the Snyder Cut, I think the DCEU could have been saved. But you know, his daughter killed herself, Snyder left to deal with that, and instead of waiting until he came back, the stupid executives (more meddling) wanted their bonuses before the upcoming merger likely would have put them out of a job, so they brought on Joss Whedon to finish the movie. His style is a 180 difference between Snyder and he wasn't given enough time to mesh everything together...and so we got the rushed disaster that we got, a film bad enough that Superman, Batman, and Cyborg's actors wanted nothing to do with the DCEU anymore. The DCEU itself was pretty much on life support after that barring the Aquaman film until it got put out of its misery.

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littlebro07
08/02/25 3:49:30 PM
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Everyones taking their kids to see Bad Guys 2 this weekend, aint nobody got time or money to do that and see another movie

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Toonstrack
08/02/25 3:50:02 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
I think this is just the way most movie releases are going to be as time marches on. Everybody who is super excited about a film will go and see it opening weekend but the overwhelming majority of people are willing to just wait a few months and watch it when it hits a streaming service they are already paying for.

Been the case for three years, for some reason internet people refuse to accept it

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Pikachuchupika
08/02/25 4:03:40 PM
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Some Marvel fans don't know what they're missing. The Marvels failed big time, but I thought it was a great movie. Thunderbolts also failed, but it's an incredible movie with an incredible story. Maybe Marvel should have marketed these movies better. Thunderbolts you wouldn't know what makes it great if you didn't watch it and only watched the trailers.
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Turbam
08/02/25 4:04:43 PM
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Fantastic Flop

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GrandConjuraton
08/02/25 4:09:33 PM
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Turbam posted...
Fantastic Flop


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chris1001_the_sequel
08/02/25 4:12:41 PM
#38:


Pikachuchupika posted...
Some Marvel fans don't know what they're missing. The Marvels failed big time, but I thought it was a great movie. Thunderbolts also failed, but it's an incredible movie with an incredible story. Maybe Marvel should have marketed these movies better. Thunderbolts you wouldn't know what makes it great if you didn't watch it and only watched the trailers.

It's less an issue of "missing" as much as it is a shift in how the general public views movies. I love the theater experience. Sit down, and watch an great movie on a big screen with booming audio, and a container of ludicrously expensive, but delicious popcorn in my hand. But most people don't care. The average person is just as happy happy watching the movie on their $200 42 inch walmart TV with tv speaker sound. For those people, why rush out to see it when you could wait a month or two and just watch it at home. The studios started pushing hard for streaming services and on demand viewing, and now they are reaping the consequences of that.

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Pikachuchupika
08/02/25 4:21:00 PM
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chris1001_the_sequel posted...
It's less an issue of "missing" as much as it is a shift in how the general public views movies. I love the theater experience. Sit down, and watch a great movie on a big screen with booming audio, and a container of ludicrously expensive, but delicious popcorn in my hand. But most people don't care. The average person is just as happy happy watching the movie on their $200 42 inch walmart TV with tv speaker sound. For those people, why rush out to see it when you could wait a month or two and just watch it at home. The studios started pushing hard for streaming services and on demand viewing and shortening theatrical windows, and now they are reaping the consequences of that.

So the solution is to get rid of Disney+!
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vycebrand2
08/02/25 4:22:49 PM
#40:


Puglia77 posted...
I don't know anything about this movie. Is this a sequel to the Fantastic 4 from 2005? Or a remake?
Remake.

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Prismsblade
08/02/25 4:34:52 PM
#41:


Movie was great in my opinion but there wasnt enough action I believe for general audiences and this month frankly has been stacked.

Some People are blaming streaming services for a while now but there no proof of this and it can just be a large number of other things. Like cost and the recession were in now.

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Zikten
08/02/25 4:53:31 PM
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It's just a new entry in the mcu. And your average person doesn't respect the Fantastic Four

Superman is the most famous superhero in the world, and this is the first movie of a brand new universe. So people are excited
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Aztex
08/02/25 5:58:44 PM
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I kept saying it wouldn't reach half a billion also saying Superman wouldn't beat Man of Steel overall, I might be wrong on this one but I keep hearing/reading that a bunch of people went to see it several times wasn't expecting that.


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08/02/25 6:46:44 PM
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foxhound101
08/02/25 6:54:18 PM
#45:


chris1001_the_sequel posted...
It's less an issue of "missing" as much as it is a shift in how the general public views movies. I love the theater experience. Sit down, and watch a great movie on a big screen with booming audio, and a container of ludicrously expensive, but delicious popcorn in my hand. But most people don't care. The average person is just as happy happy watching the movie on their $200 42 inch walmart TV with tv speaker sound. For those people, why rush out to see it when you could wait a month or two and just watch it at home. The studios started pushing hard for streaming services and on demand viewing and shortening theatrical windows, and now they are reaping the consequences of that.


Yuuup. This is a part of it. And I fall into this category. But I've always been this way - I've never been big into movies or the theater experience. Especially when movies start pushing the 2 hour mark, which a lot of them do nowadays.

My boyfriend however has been wanting to go see more movies however, so I might go from seeing 0-1 a year to seeing a handful more lol. I like action movies way more than horror and comedy so Fantastic Four is one I might go see!

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08/02/25 7:40:56 PM
#46:


its a shame because I loved the movie

wish the Fantastic Four got more love

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CARRRNE_ASADA
08/02/25 7:44:43 PM
#47:


Marvel movies are very front loaded and word of mouth hasnt been that great.

The first time Ive actually thought Disney might be influencing reviewers, cause the reviews dont really match that well and most people seem to agree that its just an ok movie.

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Irrelevant
08/02/25 7:45:36 PM
#48:


Well I really liked it and I do like it when the FF come off as a family and they do more weird science adventures. Not that I dislike it when they be more superheroes and Ben gets in a grudge match against the Hulk.

Pedro actually grew on me as Reed as I watched.

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Zikten
08/02/25 8:39:35 PM
#49:


I heard the Sue Storm actress wants to adapt the time in the comics when Sue turned into a Super Villain. The storyline recently got back in the public consciousness because it has a skin in Marvel Rivals
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DrizztLink
08/02/25 8:42:33 PM
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I'd rather they do that over making Pedro Pascal become The Maker.

That perfect man is entirely too flawless and good to be stuck as The Omnicidincel Maniac.

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