Current Events > Trump's Big Ugly Bill Is Fascism in Writing

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Samurai_Shinjo
07/03/25 6:49:07 PM
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https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/big-ugly-bill-fascist

It takes more than $1 trillion out of Medicaidleaving about 12 million Americans without insurance by 2034and slashes Food Stamps, all to give a giant tax cut to wealthy Americans.

It establishes an anti-immigrant police state in America, replete with a standing army of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and a gulag of detention facilities that will transform ICE into the most heavily funded law enforcement agency in the government.


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DrizztLink
07/03/25 6:50:39 PM
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Sure is too bad all of these obvious outcomes weren't deal-breakers.

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Storm_Shadow
07/03/25 6:51:58 PM
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People are extraordinarily bad at connecting the dots and looking at things from a big-picture view to see how it all fits together. What's obvious to us from taking a systemic viewpoint is just a bunch of seemingly unrelated actions to the average person.

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EPR-radar
07/03/25 7:33:10 PM
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That "anti-immigrant police state" isn't going to be limited to oppressing immigrants for long.

There will be mission creep, and it's obvious that the expanded target list will be everyone on every senior Republican's shit list.

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argonautweakend
07/03/25 7:33:56 PM
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the ICE budget is 3 times more than the Marines, which....is something.

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metralo
07/03/25 7:34:41 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
That "anti-immigrant police state" isn't going to be limited to oppressing immigrants for long.

There will be mission creep, and it's obvious that the expanded target list will be everyone on every senior Republican's shit list.

Yup.

People still bringing up midterms? Wait till ICE is deployed to the polling stations in blue states and harrasses every single person showing up.

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EPR-radar
07/03/25 7:34:51 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
the ICE budget is 3 times more than the Marines, which....is something.
Setting up the US equivalent of the SS and Gestapo combined is costly.

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HighSeraph
07/03/25 7:35:58 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
the ICE budget is 3 times more than the Marines, which....is something.
It'll cost a lot of money dying their shirts brown

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Storm_Shadow
07/03/25 7:36:35 PM
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HighSeraph posted...
It'll cost a lot of money dying their shirts brown

That's some expensive poop!

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A_Good_Boy
07/03/25 7:37:40 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Sure is too bad all of these obvious outcomes weren't deal-breakers.
At least Gaza is still speaking, I think.

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HighSeraph
07/03/25 7:38:16 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
At least Gaza is still speaking, I think.
It's hard to talk when your body is so weak from hunger

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EPR-radar
07/03/25 7:46:57 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
At least Gaza is still speaking, I think.
It doesn't matter what Palestinians in Gaza say. Instead, we should listen to the Champions of Gaza (according to said Champions of Gaza).

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A_Good_Boy
07/03/25 7:48:36 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
It doesn't matter what Palestinians in Gaza say. Instead, we should listen to the Champions of Gaza (according to said Champions of Gaza).
What's worse than a genocide?

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Sandalorn
07/03/25 7:58:39 PM
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metralo posted...
Yup.

People still bringing up midterms? Wait till ICE is deployed to the polling stations in blue states and harrasses every single person showing up.


I think this needs to be highlighted. This is a full on Gestapo force not an Immigration force anymore. They will be used throughout the country to harass, kidnap and ensure that Republican rule in all three branches of the federal Gov't stays in Republican hands. With all the levers the Republicans put in place to fix the election for them in 2024 and with a military force now in place to use intimidation and violence we as a free nation of Democracy is over.

Call me a doomer if it makes you feel better but the writing is completely on the wall now.
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sfcalimari
07/03/25 8:08:13 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Sure is too bad all of these obvious outcomes weren't deal-breakers.

Kamala's laugh didn't earn my eggs platform.

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2001mark
07/03/25 8:09:12 PM
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See how many Americans are still posting from South Sudan next month.
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EPR-radar
07/03/25 8:09:53 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
What's worse than a genocide?
More genocide. Which is exactly what we are getting.

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sfcalimari
07/03/25 8:10:18 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
What's worse than a genocide?

As we repeatedly told them, it was the genocide that came to your town and into your house, but they said it didn't matter because reasons. Nobody cares about Gaza anymore when they're worried about losing their citizenship and being kidnapped, which is what the COGs wanted to happen.

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Evillink2000
07/03/25 8:12:34 PM
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Sandalorn posted...
I think this needs to be highlighted. This is a full on Gestapo force not an Immigration force anymore. They will be used throughout the country to harass, kidnap and ensure that Republican rule in all three branches of the federal Gov't stays in Republican hands. With all the levers the Republicans put in place to fix the election for them in 2024 and with a military force now in place to use intimidation and violence we as a free nation of Democracy is over.

Call me a doomer if it makes you feel better but the writing is completely on the wall now.
Exactly this.
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HighSeraph
07/03/25 8:15:02 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
As we repeatedly told them, it was the genocide that came to your town and into your house, but they said it didn't matter because reasons. Nobody cares about Gaza anymore when they're worried about losing their citizenship and being kidnapped, which is what the COGs wanted to happen.
Yep, the rights and lives of the LGBT and non-white americans just wasn't important enough to them.

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RasterGraphic
07/03/25 8:19:01 PM
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What I want to say would likely get me modded because it's belittling the intelligence of a good portion of the country.

But part of me thinks I should I just post it.
To quote prolific gameFaqs mod RaptorLC: "sometime you just have to call an idiot an idiot".

... for context it would have been anti-MAGA.

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EPR-radar
07/03/25 8:19:18 PM
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HighSeraph posted...
Yep, the rights and lives of the LGBT and non-white americans just wasn't important enough to them.
Their moral purity was more important. See also their general lack of action (or even talk) vs. Trump and Republicans. It looks like saving their own skins from the impending Trumpist oppression is the highest priority.

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mybbqrules
07/04/25 1:45:47 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
Sure is too bad all of these obvious outcomes weren't deal-breakers.
Gaza was speaking, Drizzt. We had no choice.

Of course, I'm sure now that the "worse genocide" is here, people who should will totally admit they were completely wrong.

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hivebent4life
07/04/25 1:50:43 AM
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One of Bidens biggest mistakes was choosing to, for whatever reason, keep ICE around. It would be like if west Germany chose to keep the Gestapo around.

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Spiky_Peahorn
07/04/25 5:54:43 AM
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Interesting that the pro-2A crowd are absolutely silent in the face of a tyrannical government they love to screech about.

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Cuticrusader09
07/04/25 6:39:38 AM
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Anybody that can get citizenship by descent elsewhere should be working toward getting it.
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KajeI
07/04/25 7:06:18 AM
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mybbqrules posted...
Gaza was speaking, Drizzt. We had no choice but to ignore their stated desires so we could own the dems.

Of course, I'm sure now that the "worse genocide" is here, people who should will totally admit they were completely wrong.
Ftfy.

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mybbqrules
07/04/25 3:20:14 PM
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KajeI posted...
Ftfy.
/CElute

Yep, that is a more suitable post.

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