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SecretBase 06/20/25 4:00:40 PM #1: |
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/nyregion/clyburn-endorses-cuomo-mayor.html Representative James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, a veteran lawmaker who was once the highest-ranking Black member of Congress, endorsed former Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo in New York Citys Democratic mayoral primary on Friday. Pack it up folks, it's over. Also this should show the more naive among us that Clyburn will always endorse against socialist candidates (unless they're incumbents), regardless of how crappy the moderate candidate is. The Clyburn apologists were always weird. Cuomo as always is a brazen liar, though, claiming Clyburn's always been on the right side of history. Dude gave us a nominee who couldn't make it the full two terms, over a ton of Dem. options from the 2020 primary who are still fresh as a whistle. Just like how now he's giving NYC a sexual predator for mayor over tons of clean Dem. options. Because his endorsements are about consolidating power, not candidate quality. --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysteryMan923 06/20/25 4:02:42 PM #2: |
Congressman Jim Clyburn officially endorsed Andrew Cuomo in todays NYC Democratic mayoral primary, calling Cuomo the candidate "best positioned to lead the Big Apple and potentially the national Democratic Party as well" dailycaller.com +12amny.com +12andrewcuomo.com +12. What Clyburn Said
+12washingtonexaminer.com +12dailycaller.com +12. Political Context & Impact
Clyburns endorsement today (June 20, 2025) is a significant national-level boost for Cuomo. It helps reinforce his appeal to centrist and Black Democratic voters in NYC. But considering progressive momentum behind other candidates and past controversies surrounding Cuomo, its an additionnot a knockout punch. --- You ain't gotta like me You just mad cuz I tell it how it is and you tell it how it might be ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 06/20/25 4:03:35 PM #3: |
so is it or is it not atypical for unrelated politicians to endorse candidates in local races i was getting mixed messages the other day --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/20/25 4:04:30 PM #4: |
Dungeater posted... so is it or is it not atypical for unrelated politicians to endorse candidates in local races its quite atypical. And shitty as hell. This is really terrible of Clyburn on multiple levels even if one dislikes Mamdani theres Lander or other clean NYC politicians --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 06/20/25 4:06:23 PM #5: |
LightSnake posted... its quite atypical. And shitty as hell. This is really terrible of Clyburn on multiple levelsthank ya --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kaiolino 06/20/25 8:07:40 PM #6: |
Clyburn calling a sociopathic 67-year old monster the future of the Democratic party because of his character. Same Clyburn who said Cuomo needed to resign a couple years ago. --- Comic book recaps 2012-2020: https://tinyurl.com/KaioRecaps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 06/20/25 8:09:19 PM #7: |
kaiolino posted... Clyburn calling a sociopathic 67-year old monster the future of the Democratic party because of his character.Clyburn needs to retire ASAP if he's going to do stupid/evil shit like this. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 06/20/25 8:10:49 PM #8: |
Democrats are just controlled opposition at this point The ultra wealthy rule everything --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/20/25 8:11:41 PM #9: |
I think we might be really overstating the sway Jim Clyburn has on NYC Democratic primary voters. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/20/25 8:12:40 PM #10: |
Antifar posted... I think we might be really overstating the sway Jim Clyburn has on NYC Democratic primary voters. I mean, yeah, there's no way most Black New Yorkers in Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Queens give a damn what someone in SoCal has to say. But it does't help because that's Zohran's biggest problem constituency to begin with --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cheat4ever 06/20/25 8:19:04 PM #11: |
So does Cuomo get a federal indictment from Trump's AG if he's the Dem's candidate or does Trump wait till he wins to hold it over NYC? --- MSI Delta 15 5800h/6700m-10gb/16gb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 12:39:52 PM #12: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7eacc425.jpg If this is any way accurate, few things are true:
--- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 06/21/25 12:43:18 PM #13: |
Jim Clyburn is a kingmaker in South Carolina not New York. Thats probably why they didnt use that headline in the article. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 06/21/25 12:45:26 PM #14: |
I guess Jim Clyburn hates women --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 12:57:10 PM #15: |
divot1338 posted... Jim Clyburn is a kingmaker in South Carolina not New York. SecretBase, when he's not defending Assad, hates Clyburn more than anyone else on earth for 2020 --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SecretBase 06/21/25 1:06:48 PM #16: |
LightSnake posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7eacc425.jpg In the 2021 mayoral election the progressives followed your advice. They made no splash whatsoever and the moderate restoration candidate cleared easily. Likewise if you change Mamdani into a standard progressive Democrat he just fails to break out from the pack and Cuomo landslides like he was in the early polling. Like if in 2016 Hillary was only facing Martin O'Malley clones. You need to campaign like Mamdani and his presidential election analogue did to galvanize the left. And yes the left is smaller than the mainstream and generally won't beat it, but every other strategy does even worse when the mainstream is so unified behind one specific candidate. The race was over on day 1, beyond name recognition the political winds are just in Cuomo's favor. NYC has been exhuasted with progressivism since 2022 and is also desperately looking for formidable opposition to Trump; Cuomo is experienced, connected, and basically the centrist version of Trump, one of the most egotistical, vindictive, and dirty fighting Democrats in modern history. NYC wants to leverage that. --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 1:51:43 PM #17: |
SecretBase posted... In the 2021 mayoral election the progressives followed your advice. They made no splash whatsoever and the moderate restoration candidate cleared easily. Likewise if you change Mamdani into a standard progressive Democrat he just fails to break out from the pack and Cuomo landslides like he was in the early polling. Like if in 2016 Hillary was only facing Martin O'Malley clones. "What if we keep doing the same thing that's not working over and over again?" God forbid we point out that going "globalize the intifada is complicated" is a stupid fucking idea anywhere, let alone a heavily Jewish city. Zohran galvanized the left in ways that cost him with others and that's about to become painfully clear. You are so allergic to admitting the left can make a mistake you're defending Assad in another topic. Sit down. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Srk700 06/21/25 2:13:12 PM #18: |
Dems: Hey, a sex offender got elected president. That must mean we should support sex offenders in our own party as well! America really needs parties that actually give a damn about people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 06/21/25 2:39:08 PM #19: |
Senile idiot. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 06/21/25 2:59:27 PM #20: |
It must be frustrating as hell being a mainstream progressive in NYC. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/21/25 4:29:19 PM #21: |
I think this graph has more to do with the polling than anything Mamdani has saidhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c54e1942.jpg The TV ads have been relentless the past two weeks, but they've been focused on Mamdani being 33 and his comments on policing in 2020, not anything to do with Israel. I don't think it's coincidental, though, that Mamdani is shown in the attack ads almost exclusively wearing Muslim garb. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 06/21/25 4:31:23 PM #22: |
Honestly you couldnt pick a better guy to run against if you were Cuomo. Or Adams for that matter. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 06/21/25 4:44:06 PM #23: |
LightSnake posted... Stop describing yourself as a 'socialist"Isnt this the campaign Brad Lander is running? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 4:48:23 PM #24: |
Intro2Logic posted... Isnt this the campaign Brad Lander is running? Lander is great, but he's also not called himself a socialist to my knowledge, and he gets way more leeway as a member of the Jewish community than Mamdani does. He's also not winning in polls, either, though. Like it's probably Zohran or Cuomo I really don't think people on the left understand how hostile their brand is to the Jewish community right now. Zohran is, as good as he is, from the DSA. Jewish association with the DSA right now is remembering October 7, 2023 when headlines were "deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust" and the DSA's reaction was "fuck yeah" across the board. Since then, they've been defending and participating in mocking antisemitism, being associated with complete psychos like Within Our Lifetime who were rallying outside of children's cancer wards, holocaust memorials and synaogues to scream at people, downplaying things like the DC shooting and Boulder attack... It's really not a shock why anyone associated with the DSA is getting a massive dose of skepticism. When Zohran does major unforced errors like "I can't condemn globalize the intifada, it's very nuanced," that's gonna enrage people. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 06/21/25 4:50:07 PM #25: |
LightSnake posted... Lander is great, but he's also not called himself a socialist to my knowledge, and he gets way more leeway as a member of the Jewish community than Mamdani does.That's my point. He ticks the boxes you say the left needs ticking, and is not succeeding --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bandit_Keith 06/21/25 4:50:10 PM #26: |
SecretBase posted... Mr. Clyburn said in a statement, adding that Mr. Cuomo had the experiences, credentials and characterhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/873ed095.jpg --- http://i.imgur.com/nq0Fn6a.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 06/21/25 4:52:46 PM #27: |
For Clyburn to give Cuomo an endorsement on his character means that Clyburn just doesn't give a shit that Cuomo is a serial abuser of women. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 4:54:41 PM #28: |
Intro2Logic posted... That's my point. He ticks the boxes you say the left needs ticking, and is not succeeding Maybe he or Mamdani would do betterr without the other in the race, which is why they cross-endorsed. Cuomo's spamming the networks in the Bronx with positive ads, and he's been likewise vocal about antisemitism. This is why I said the Hasan thing was one of the stupidest moves Mamdani could've made and his defense of it didn't play well either. The substance was horrible when Hasan did the predictable thing and was like "LOL antisemitism" and Mamdani was just very awkwardly trying to change the subject as fast as possible. I get the man had an uphill climb but he fumbled --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 4:55:20 PM #29: |
EPR-radar posted... For Clyburn to give Cuomo an endorsement on his character means that Clyburn just doesn't give a shit that Cuomo is a serial abuser of women. Yep. Cuomo's a predator who's committed assaulted. He's a piece of shit and it sucks NYC is gonna be stuck with him --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaitouace 06/21/25 4:58:23 PM #30: |
Old rich people go home. --- "They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Rian 06/21/25 5:36:51 PM #31: |
LightSnake posted... someone in SoCalWhat? --- Holy crap! How have I not set a signature for the message boards yet? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 5:37:20 PM #32: |
Mr_Rian posted... What? It's an abbreviation for South Carolina --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/21/25 5:38:49 PM #33: |
SoCal typically refers to Southern California. SC and USC are common enough mixups, but the Cal part feels pretty unambiguous. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Rian 06/21/25 5:39:31 PM #34: |
LightSnake posted... It's an abbreviation for South CarolinaSoCal is Southern California. --- Holy crap! How have I not set a signature for the message boards yet? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/21/25 5:41:51 PM #35: |
My bad --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kaiolino 06/21/25 6:23:37 PM #36: |
SecretBase posted... In the 2021 mayoral election the progressives followed your advice. They made no splash whatsoever and the moderate restoration candidate cleared easily. Adams won in the final round 50.4% vs 49.6% for Garcia. --- Comic book recaps 2012-2020: https://tinyurl.com/KaioRecaps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SecretBase 06/21/25 10:53:45 PM #37: |
kaiolino posted...
Garcia wasn't campaigning as a progressive. She had a ranked voting pact with Andrew Yang (instead of any of the progressives) and in her own words, "There are candidates who are further on the left than I am. I have a more practical bent than others do." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/07/nyregion/kathryn-garcia-maya-wiley-eric-adams-mayor.html Both Ms. Garcia, a former sanitation commissioner who ran on her reputation for bureaucratic acumen, and Mr. Adams, a former police captain, were regarded as relative moderates in the left-leaning universe of New York City Democratic politics. They opposed defunding the police; they expressed support for expanding charter schools and encouraging real estate development. Final round was just moderate vs. less moderate. --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 06/21/25 11:15:25 PM #38: |
Gonna vote early tomorrow morning. Holy shit, it really is an embarrassing field of candidates. It makes sense considering NYC Mayor is one of the least desired jobs in the country --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Humble_Novice 06/22/25 12:16:40 AM #39: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a8a38f3b.jpg --- Here's a link to the CE Discord server in the event that the actual board gets removed by GameFAQs: https://discord.gg/zMBUnHPMHe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 06/22/25 12:59:27 AM #40: |
Cuomo having strong support from women is just ridiculous considering he has sexually harassed reporters and female staffers. I'm not sure who's coming first for me, but I just cannot vote for a piece of shit like Cuomo --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HojoojoH_2 06/22/25 1:05:52 AM #41: |
LightSnake posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7eacc425.jpg So you want candidates to lie and misrepresent themselves (re: #2) and/or abandon the issue supporters have gathered for (re: #2 and #3)? Interesting strategy. Surprisingly not a popular one, lol. --- United front will see us through ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SecretBase 06/22/25 1:16:09 AM #42: |
HojoojoH_2 posted... So you want candidates to lie and misrepresent themselves (re: #2) To be fair the common belief among that camp is that politicians like Mamdani, AOC, and Bernie aren't actually socialists, they're just capitalists who support regulation and safety nets, and so they're only senselessly hurting themselves by championing a divisive label that doesn't really describe them to begin with. Thing is the title helps differentiate them from "pro-growth" politicians who seem to put economic output ahead of all other considerations, helping energize voters who've grown disenchanted with the bipartisan obsession over profits, stocks, and GDP. --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 06/22/25 1:22:42 AM #43: |
SecretBase posted... To be fair the common belief among that camp is that politicians like Mamdani, AOC, and Bernie aren't actually socialists, they're just capitalists who support regulation and safety nets, and so they're only senselessly hurting themselves by championing a divisive label that doesn't really describe them to begin with.Thinking alligning himself with socialist aesthetics has done anything other than benefit Bernie is absurd. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/22/25 1:22:53 AM #44: |
HojoojoH_2 posted... So you want candidates to lie and misrepresent themselves (re: #2) and/or abandon the issue supporters have gathered for (re: #2 and #3)? I'm sorry, any supporter gathered for "globalize the intifada is complex" and lost by condemning is not one worth having. And yeha, it's called politics. The DSA is tainted, people don't like socialist as a branding. "Liberal" has actual support behind it. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 06/22/25 1:25:33 AM #45: |
Humble_Novice posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a8a38f3b.jpg...what the hell is with New Yorkers? How do they pick like the worst mayors every time? --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HojoojoH_2 06/22/25 1:30:42 AM #46: |
LightSnake posted... I'm sorry, any supporter gathered for "globalize the intifada is complex" and lost by condemning is not one worth having. I have no idea what the first sentence you wrote means. Not going to try to decipher that. The second thingy out wrote is down-right hilarious. Socialist and liberal aren't branding. They are, as you said, politics (or, more accurately: political philosophies). And you should know that socialists aren't dipping in and out of liberalism. They are opposed to liberalism. But I know that this simple fact can be tough to think through if you are 100% yankee-pilled and "the left" is everyone other than MAGA+GOP. --- United front will see us through ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/22/25 10:43:21 AM #47: |
HojoojoH_2 posted... I have no idea what the first sentence you wrote means. Not going to try to decipher that. Simple: any supporters who's enraged by condemning "globalize the Intifada" is someone you can do without And socialists have such a wonderful track record getting elected here. Not like the US public as a whole has a visceral reaction to "socialism" and a number of immigrant communities despise it because they associate it with dictatorships they fled. "Definition of Insanity" and all that. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 06/22/25 10:45:02 AM #48: |
Though because he's always dishonest, something SecretBase didn't mention: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/17/nyregion/bernie-sanders-endorse-mamdani-mayor.html --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 06/22/25 10:45:56 AM #49: |
Boy, why does this all feel so..... familiar? --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SecretBase 06/22/25 10:57:48 AM #50: |
LightSnake posted... Though because he's always dishonest, something SecretBase didn't mention: Projection, the people who constantly lie about and misrepresent other peoples opinions to try to smear them (ex. accusing me of defending a failed state war criminal simply because I said it's not America's job to unleash gunfire on every shitty country) do not get to claim I'm "dishonest" just because I didn't post a topic about something trivial and irrelevant. (has Bernie Sanders ever been a kingmaker...?) There is nothing remarkable about random politicians endorsing eachother. What is remarkable is a politician endorsing a sex pest who they previously called upon to step down from office. --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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