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refmon 04/14/25 9:00:19 AM #1:	https://www.gamespot.com/articles/bungies-marathon-is-a-polished-extraction-shooter-but-that-might-not-be-enough/1100-6530826/ Bungie aint what they used to be, I have no idea how console players will react to a extraction shooter and it seems to be a fully priced game with battle pass crap --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:984708315] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>https://www.gamespot.com/articles/bungies-marathon-is-a-polished-extraction-shooter-but-that-might-not-be-enough/1100-6530826/Bungie aint what they used to be, I have no idea how console players will react to a extraction shooter and it seems to be a fully priced game with battle pass crap</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accolon 04/14/25 9:01:04 AM #2:	Oh my yes --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg <cite>Accolon posted [p:984708318] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Oh my yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 04/14/25 9:02:05 AM #3:	refmon posted... fully priced game with battle pass crap Aren't they all. That said I doubt it'll tank like Concord. Bungie is still alright. --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:984708324] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite><quote>fully priced game with battle pass crap</quote>Aren't they all.That said I doubt it'll tank like Concord. Bungie is still alright.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 04/14/25 9:06:32 AM #4:	It's not going to bomb remotely as hard as Concord, for the simple reason that this topic exists. That's already more public awareness than Concord had. The first time anybody heard of Concord was when it announced its closure. There's even a gamespot article about whatever this game is. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:984708358] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>It's not going to bomb remotely as hard as Concord, for the simple reason that this topic exists. That's already more public awareness than Concord had. The first time anybody heard of Concord was when it announced its closure.There's even a gamespot article about whatever this game is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 04/14/25 9:07:11 AM #5:	It is not going to be fully priced fyi --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:984708362] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>It is not going to be fully priced fyi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 04/14/25 9:09:33 AM #6:	Will it bomb? Almost certainly. Will it bomb as hard as Concord? Absolutely not. Concord was an all-time bomb. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:984708373] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Will it bomb? Almost certainly.Will it bomb as hard as Concord? Absolutely not. Concord was an all-time bomb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SadButTrue 04/14/25 9:10:43 AM #7:	this is how destiny dies with thunderous sighs <cite>SadButTrue posted [p:984708380] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>this is how destiny dieswith thunderous sighs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 04/14/25 9:10:52 AM #8:	I hope so --- There are wounds that never show on the body that are deeper and more hurtful than anything that bleeds. <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:984708381] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>I hope so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 04/14/25 9:12:32 AM #9:	HighSeraph posted... I hope so --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_oUdEm-6s <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:984708391] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>HighSeraph posted... </cite><quote>I hope so</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dalthine 04/14/25 9:17:25 AM #10:	Personally I saw the words "extraction shooter" attached to it and immediately tuned the game out. It's not a genre that has any appeal to me. Is the genre even popular enough to amount to success if the game doesn't bomb? I know Tarkov is big enough to pull a couple scammy things, but I don't think I've seen or heard of any other extraction shooter pulling in more than dregs off Tarkov. And even that game I don't think is pulling in particularly big bucks. <cite>Dalthine posted [p:984708417] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Personally I saw the words "extraction shooter" attached to it and immediately tuned the game out. It's not a genre that has any appeal to me. Is the genre even popular enough to amount to success if the game doesn't bomb? I know Tarkov is big enough to pull a couple scammy things, but I don't think I've seen or heard of any other extraction shooter pulling in more than dregs off Tarkov. And even that game I don't think is pulling in particularly big bucks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 04/14/25 9:22:11 AM #11:	All they had to do was go the Doom reboot route but no. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala <cite>creativerealms posted [p:984708452] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>All they had to do was go the Doom reboot route but no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 04/14/25 9:24:03 AM #12:	Helldivers is the big one, iirc --- And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? It's Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:984708467] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Helldivers is the big one, iirc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 04/14/25 9:25:33 AM #13:	We need it to be aware of and hyped for this game a year ago. Not only learning of it now at completion. Congrats Bungie. You created a line item on a spreadsheet. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:984708483] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>We need it to be aware of and hyped for this game a year ago. Not only learning of it now at completion. Congrats Bungie. You created a line item on a spreadsheet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dalthine 04/14/25 9:28:20 AM #14:	Evening_Dragon posted... Helldivers is the big one, iirc Ehh, I wouldn't call it that, unless the first one is different. I played a lot of Helldivers 2 and while extraction is a part of it, it's a minor part and only matters for samples. Those give upgrades but it's a secondary focus compared to the missions themselves. For ones where that genre is the focus, grabbing loot and extracting with it, and that loot becoming your gear for future missions, is the primary focus. Or at least, that's what I understand as the appeal of the loop. <cite>Dalthine posted [p:984708501] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>Helldivers is the big one, iirc</quote>Ehh, I wouldn't call it that, unless the first one is different. I played a lot of Helldivers 2 and while extraction is a part of it, it's a minor part and only matters for samples. Those give upgrades but it's a secondary focus compared to the missions themselves. For ones where that genre is the focus, grabbing loot and extracting with it, and that loot becoming your gear for future missions, is the primary focus. Or at least, that's what I understand as the appeal of the loop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 04/14/25 10:22:52 AM #15:	not like concord. i don't have a good feeling it will perform like bungie/sony hopes it will tho. --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:984708910] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>not like concord. i don't have a good feeling it will perform like bungie/sony hopes it will tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 04/14/25 10:26:42 AM #16:	The thing about making an extraction shooter is it this point we know that the quality of the gameplay alone isn't going to be enough to compete. A regular stream of new characters and cosmetics isn't going to do it either. You basically need IP and branding power, and marathon is unfortunately as close to worthless as it gets for Bungie when it comes to IP recognition. That leaves branding power and pulling something like a fortnight where you just become Ready Player One and fill the screen with recognizable properties, but I can't see Bungie doing that and I don't know that a battle pass with a master chief helmet at the end of it will be enough either. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:984708939] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>The thing about making an extraction shooter is it this point we know that the quality of the gameplay alone isn't going to be enough to compete. A regular stream of new characters and cosmetics isn't going to do it either. You basically need IP and branding power, and marathon is unfortunately as close to worthless as it gets for Bungie when it comes to IP recognition. That leaves branding power and pulling something like a fortnight where you just become Ready Player One and fill the screen with recognizable properties, but I can't see Bungie doing that and I don't know that a battle pass with a master chief helmet at the end of it will be enough either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 04/14/25 10:36:19 AM #17:	The discord from the game is really cool at least. Lots of lore talk and some fun role playing from the devs. I signed up for the alpha so hopefully I get in --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:984709023] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>The discord from the game is really cool at least. Lots of lore talk and some fun role playing from the devs. I signed up for the alpha so hopefully I get in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 04/14/25 10:37:34 AM #18:	This sounds kind of cool, but id need more info about it. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound cool enough for me to dig for it. Unless it takes off like Helldivers 2 or Monster Hunter where I'm dragged into the hype then I doubt that I'll try it --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:984709034] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>This sounds kind of cool, but id need more info about it. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound cool enough for me to dig for it. Unless it takes off like Helldivers 2 or Monster Hunter where I'm dragged into the hype then I doubt that I'll try it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/14/25 10:38:58 AM #19:	HighSeraph posted... I hope so Why --- Bad Faith User <cite>SwayM posted [p:984709054] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>HighSeraph posted... </cite><quote>I hope so</quote>Why</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 04/14/25 11:02:29 AM #20:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbEnWLRo1s&ab_channel=Marathon Regardless of how the game turns out this is pretty damn awesome. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:984709265] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbEnWLRo1s&ab_channel=MarathonRegardless of how the game turns out this is pretty damn awesome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Juhanor 04/14/25 11:18:37 AM #21:	As one of the people who loves Marathon HighSeraph posted... I hope so <cite>Juhanor posted [p:984709413] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>As one of the people who loves MarathonHighSeraph posted...</cite><quote>I hope so</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 04/14/25 11:24:50 AM #22:	i have 0 interest in pvp and extraction shooters, but idk why you'd want this to fail. bungie doesn't seem to be doing too hot these days. you want it to get worse for them? --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:984709475] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>i have 0 interest in pvp and extraction shooters, but idk why you'd want this to fail. bungie doesn't seem to be doing too hot these days. you want it to get worse for them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 04/14/25 11:26:01 AM #23:	There is no way it bombs as hard as Concord. But it still seems likely to seriously underperform. --- Currently playing - Dragon's Dogma 2 <cite>bsp77 posted [p:984709490] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>There is no way it bombs as hard as Concord. But it still seems likely to seriously underperform.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 04/14/25 11:37:08 AM #24:	It won't bomb as hard as Concord, but I don't see any way it will be successful. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:984709596] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>It won't bomb as hard as Concord, but I don't see any way it will be successful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erika_Redmark 04/14/25 12:27:53 PM #25:	I'm really confused. I only quickly skimmed this, but all the references to Bungie learning from their experience with the Halo series has my brain scrambled. Marathon came first. Hell, Pathways Into Darkness came before that. Marathon was a 90s FPS and was the Macintosh side of the Doom craze. I absolutely loved Marathon growing up, and even I wasn't old enough to really enjoy until the early days of Aleph One which brought it to modern systems. So... how is this Marathon? Why do I get the vibe that people are talking like it is a new series... I hate to reduce playing an alpha version of the next game from the team behind Halo and Destiny ...inspired by Bungie's latest works without any reference to the original thing whose name it is literally taking? Reading through about the gameplay, it doesn't sound anything like Marathon to me. This is my first time hearing about this, so maybe I am missing some critical context here, but it seems to me this shouldn't be called Marathon, because that's just kind of confusing now. --- "If you wanna win a war, you must serve no master but your ambition" - Illyria <cite>Erika_Redmark posted [p:984710100] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>I'm really confused. I only quickly skimmed this, but all the references to Bungie learning from their experience with the Halo series has my brain scrambled. Marathon came first. Hell, Pathways Into Darkness came before that. Marathon was a 90s FPS and was the Macintosh side of the Doom craze. I absolutely loved Marathon growing up, and even I wasn't old enough to really enjoy until the early days of Aleph One which brought it to modern systems.So... how is this Marathon? Why do I get the vibe that people are talking like it is a new series...<quote> I hate to reduce playing an alpha version of the next game from the team behind Halo and Destiny</quote>...inspired by Bungie's latest works without any reference to the original thing whose name it is literally taking? Reading through about the gameplay, it doesn't sound anything like Marathon to me.This is my first time hearing about this, so maybe I am missing some critical context here, but it seems to me this shouldn't be called Marathon, because that's just kind of confusing now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 04/14/25 12:32:30 PM #26:	Erika_Redmark posted... This is my first time hearing about this, so maybe I am missing some critical context here, but it seems to me this shouldn't be called Marathon, because that's just kind of confusing now. It's Bungie (now owned by Sony, as a reminder) harvesting the last remnants of their old dead IPs to hopefully sell the next thing to replace the Destiny cash they're making as that game winds down. It's Marathon in name only. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:984710156] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Erika_Redmark posted... </cite><quote>This is my first time hearing about this, so maybe I am missing some critical context here, but it seems to me this shouldn't be called Marathon, because that's just kind of confusing now.</quote>It's Bungie (now owned by Sony, as a reminder) harvesting the last remnants of their old dead IPs to hopefully sell the next thing to replace the Destiny cash they're making as that game winds down. It's Marathon in name only. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 04/14/25 12:35:59 PM #27:	s0nicfan posted... The thing about making an extraction shooter is it this point we know that the quality of the gameplay alone isn't going to be enough to compete. A regular stream of new characters and cosmetics isn't going to do it either. You basically need IP and branding power, and marathon is unfortunately as close to worthless as it gets for Bungie when it comes to IP recognition. That leaves branding power and pulling something like a fortnight where you just become Ready Player One and fill the screen with recognizable properties, but I can't see Bungie doing that and I don't know that a battle pass with a master chief helmet at the end of it will be enough either. Bungie doesnt even get that, 343 does Halo now <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:984710188] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>The thing about making an extraction shooter is it this point we know that the quality of the gameplay alone isn't going to be enough to compete. A regular stream of new characters and cosmetics isn't going to do it either. You basically need IP and branding power, and marathon is unfortunately as close to worthless as it gets for Bungie when it comes to IP recognition. That leaves branding power and pulling something like a fortnight where you just become Ready Player One and fill the screen with recognizable properties, but I can't see Bungie doing that and I don't know that a battle pass with a master chief helmet at the end of it will be enough either.</quote>Bungie doesnt even get that, 343 does Halo now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 04/14/25 12:37:09 PM #28:	Eh it has blatant references to the series including Durandal and his ultimate goal. That and UESC as well as the derelict Marathon above Tau Ceti 4. It's doing more to throw in the series lore but I'm mostly confused where this fits. Post trilogy? --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:984710201] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Eh it has blatant references to the series including Durandal and his ultimate goal. That and UESC as well as the derelict Marathon above Tau Ceti 4. It's doing more to throw in the series lore but I'm mostly confused where this fits. Post trilogy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rob_the_Ninja 04/14/25 12:38:37 PM #29:	I think its visual style and Bungie's gunplay will carry it to better numbers than some are expecting, but I don't expect it to be a smash hit either. <cite>Rob_the_Ninja posted [p:984710214] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>I think its visual style and Bungie's gunplay will carry it to better numbers than some are expecting, but I don't expect it to be a smash hit either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 04/14/25 12:45:56 PM #30:	Kaldrenthebold posted... Eh it has blatant references to the series including Durandal and his ultimate goal. That and UESC as well as the derelict Marathon above Tau Ceti 4. It's doing more to throw in the series lore but I'm mostly confused where this fits. Post trilogy? It can't be post trilogy because the trilogy ends in the final moments at the heat death of the universe. In existing lore Tau Ceti gets colonized and then wiped out in 2794. At the end of that fight Durandal leaves and never returns, yet this new game takes place in 2850 and he's apparently involved. So at best it's likely to be a bunch of corporations ("factions") picking over the abandoned remnants of those wars about 100 years later, but Durandal should be nowhere in sight unless it's like an offline backup that got left on the planet. It also can't serve the larger Marathon plot because the events that occur here 100 years later are meaningless to Durandal or your mission. Technically at this point you've already found the pfvor (spelling?) homeworld and they've unleashed their superweapon and ruined everything. So the only possible place for this game to have any meaning to Marathon is if it takes place on any of the doomed timelines explored in Marathon 3. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:984710297] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>Eh it has blatant references to the series including Durandal and his ultimate goal. That and UESC as well as the derelict Marathon above Tau Ceti 4. It's doing more to throw in the series lore but I'm mostly confused where this fits. Post trilogy?</quote>It can't be post trilogy because the trilogy ends in the final moments at the heat death of the universe. In existing lore Tau Ceti gets colonized and then wiped out in 2794. At the end of that fight Durandal leaves and never returns, yet this new game takes place in 2850 and he's apparently involved. So at best it's likely to be a bunch of corporations ("factions") picking over the abandoned remnants of those wars about 100 years later, but Durandal should be nowhere in sight unless it's like an offline backup that got left on the planet.It also can't serve the larger Marathon plot because the events that occur here 100 years later are meaningless to Durandal or your mission. Technically at this point you've already found the pfvor (spelling?) homeworld and they've unleashed their superweapon and ruined everything. So the only possible place for this game to have any meaning to Marathon is if it takes place on any of the doomed timelines explored in Marathon 3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 04/14/25 1:01:43 PM #31:	Infinite is mostly time jumps and alternate dimension exploring, I don't see how it wouldn't take place after Marathon 2. Also it would take about 90 years for the distress message the Marathon sent to reach earth so I would think this could potentially be the reinforcements showing up a long time after. Using shells as remote exploration vehicles. Could also just be Tycho faking us out by pretending to be Durandal. He's a bit of a dick --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:984710433] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Infinite is mostly time jumps and alternate dimension exploring, I don't see how it wouldn't take place after Marathon 2. Also it would take about 90 years for the distress message the Marathon sent to reach earth so I would think this could potentially be the reinforcements showing up a long time after. Using shells as remote exploration vehicles. Could also just be Tycho faking us out by pretending to be Durandal. He's a bit of a dick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/14/25 1:13:54 PM #32:	It will never not be insane to me when gamers wish a game to fail. Especially when they haven't played it and it was literally just announced. --- Bad Faith User <cite>SwayM posted [p:984710537] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>It will never not be insane to me when gamers wish a game to fail.Especially when they haven't played it and it was literally just announced. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dalthine 04/14/25 1:45:25 PM #33:	SwayM posted... It will never not be insane to me when gamers wish a game to fail. Especially when they haven't played it and it was literally just announced. I wish everything with gacha/lootbox monetization will fail. They won't, because those games print money, but I'll still wish it. This isn't one of those cases though. I think. <cite>Dalthine posted [p:984710863] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite><quote>It will never not be insane to me when gamers wish a game to fail.Especially when they haven't played it and it was literally just announced.</quote>I wish everything with gacha/lootbox monetization will fail. They won't, because those games print money, but I'll still wish it. This isn't one of those cases though. I think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 04/14/25 1:47:41 PM #34:	SwayM posted... It will never not be insane to me when gamers wish a game to fail. Why's that? Accepting bullshit like gaas and gacha is why the video game industry is at the worst it's ever been. --- There are wounds that never show on the body that are deeper and more hurtful than anything that bleeds. <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:984710894] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite><quote>It will never not be insane to me when gamers wish a game to fail.</quote>Why's that? Accepting bullshit like gaas and gacha is why the video game industry is at the worst it's ever been.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 04/14/25 2:13:40 PM #35:	SadButTrue posted... this is how destiny dies Isn't Destiny already dead? --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:984711231] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>SadButTrue posted... </cite><quote>this is how destiny dies</quote>Isn't Destiny already dead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/14/25 2:23:02 PM #36:	HighSeraph posted... Accepting bullshit like gaas and gacha is why the video game industry is at the worst it's ever been. Uh huh. I remember when Marvel Rivals was revealed and it was nothing but shit talk and naysaying. --- Bad Faith User <cite>SwayM posted [p:984711332] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>HighSeraph posted... </cite><quote>Accepting bullshit like gaas and gacha is why the video game industry is at the worst it's ever been.</quote>Uh huh.I remember when Marvel Rivals was revealed and it was nothing but shit talk and naysaying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deathguise950 04/14/25 2:33:32 PM #37:	Who actually plays these type of games besides 12 year olds who dont know any better <cite>deathguise950 posted [p:984711466] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Who actually plays these type of games besides 12 year olds who dont know any better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 04/14/25 2:54:56 PM #38:	deathguise950 posted... Who actually plays these type of games besides 12 year olds who dont know any better 30 year olds who don't know any better. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:984711679] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>deathguise950 posted... </cite><quote>Who actually plays these type of games besides 12 year olds who dont know any better</quote>30 year olds who don't know any better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deathguise950 04/14/25 3:00:03 PM #39:	ReturnOfDevsman posted... 30 year olds who don't know any better. lol good call <cite>deathguise950 posted [p:984711721] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfDevsman posted... </cite><quote>30 year olds who don't know any better.</quote>lol good call</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 04/14/25 3:12:31 PM #40:	Rob_the_Ninja posted... I think its visual style and Bungie's gunplay will carry it to better numbers than some are expecting, but I don't expect it to be a smash hit either. I can't see anything wrong with it. I honestly love Destiny, the only reason I'm avoiding this is that it's multiplayer pvp only. I liked Destiny for the solo and raiding experience. Main issue I see is charging for a multiplayer game in this day and age, as well as the genre being oversaturated. It's going to have to be something special to pull an audience that's already playing Tarkov and Hunt. <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:984711843] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>Rob_the_Ninja posted... </cite><quote>I think its visual style and Bungie's gunplay will carry it to better numbers than some are expecting, but I don't expect it to be a smash hit either.</quote>I can't see anything wrong with it. I honestly love Destiny, the only reason I'm avoiding this is that it's multiplayer pvp only. I liked Destiny for the solo and raiding experience.Main issue I see is charging for a multiplayer game in this day and age, as well as the genre being oversaturated. It's going to have to be something special to pull an audience that's already playing Tarkov and Hunt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 04/14/25 3:51:46 PM #41:	SwayM posted... Uh huh. I remember when Marvel Rivals was revealed and it was nothing but shit talk and naysaying. Damn, one was successful out of like 10 or more therefore obviously we should just keep wasting time and resources making more. --- There are wounds that never show on the body that are deeper and more hurtful than anything that bleeds. <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:984712310] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite><quote>Uh huh.I remember when Marvel Rivals was revealed and it was nothing but shit talk and naysaying.</quote>Damn, one was successful out of like 10 or more therefore obviously we should just keep wasting time and resources making more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dalthine 04/15/25 7:01:48 AM #42:	HighSeraph posted... Damn, one was successful out of like 10 or more therefore obviously we should just keep wasting time and resources making more. Eh, personally I hesitated on Rivals purely because I fully expected them to go in on gacha/lootbox monetization. I was shocked when they didn't. I don't see myself turning around on those. It's a deliberately predatory and anti consumer system. GaaS have their place, but mostly fail because of greed and incompetence. Game companies just see the oodles of cash GaaS make and want to get their version of that. But there's two main issues. First, if you want to break into a saturated market, you need some kind of unique appeal. A massively popular IP that will break into more casual audiences (Marvel Rivals) or a unique spin or just plain higher quality that's has so much more appeal that it can drag entrenched users away from the established format (Fortnite). The first is a heavy upfront cost (and the game still has to be solid), while the second takes a lot more development skill. Second, a lot of companies that invest heavily into GaaS don't realize that they're going to start cannibalizing themselves. If you have one successful GaaS platform and you make a second similar one or even use the same IP basis, the second one is going to eat some users from the first. I can't remember which company it was, but they did a heavy introspective and canceled six GaaS that were in development at the same time. There's no way that even half of them could have been fully successful. But you have companies so thirsty for that Fortnite or Final Fantasy XIV or Warzone money, or thinking they can double that by making a second success, that they'll piss it all away dozens of times over on the chance. <cite>Dalthine posted [p:984718778] in Think Mara... [t:80966722]...</cite> <quote>HighSeraph posted... </cite><quote>Damn, one was successful out of like 10 or more therefore obviously we should just keep wasting time and resources making more.</quote>Eh, personally I hesitated on Rivals purely because I fully expected them to go in on gacha/lootbox monetization. I was shocked when they didn't. I don't see myself turning around on those. It's a deliberately predatory and anti consumer system. GaaS have their place, but mostly fail because of greed and incompetence. Game companies just see the oodles of cash GaaS make and want to get their version of that. But there's two main issues. First, if you want to break into a saturated market, you need some kind of unique appeal. A massively popular IP that will break into more casual audiences (Marvel Rivals) or a unique spin or just plain higher quality that's has so much more appeal that it can drag entrenched users away from the established format (Fortnite). The first is a heavy upfront cost (and the game still has to be solid), while the second takes a lot more development skill. Second, a lot of companies that invest heavily into GaaS don't realize that they're going to start cannibalizing themselves. If you have one successful GaaS platform and you make a second similar one or even use the same IP basis, the second one is going to eat some users from the first. I can't remember which company it was, but they did a heavy introspective and canceled six GaaS that were in development at the same time. There's no way that even half of them could have been fully successful. But you have companies so thirsty for that Fortnite or Final Fantasy XIV or Warzone money, or thinking they can double that by making a second success, that they'll piss it all away dozens of times over on the chance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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