Board 8 > Time Travelers Mafia Topic 6: Dreaming of a Timeline without Endless Eight

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Obellisk
12/30/24 4:05:02 PM
#101:


i was about to say maybe No Lynch is the way to play today just to see how things play out.

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Obellisk
12/30/24 4:06:18 PM
#102:


imagine the isquen role is actually a scum role and the no lynch no vote was deliberate to try to avoid these late game shenanigans.

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:06:56 PM
#103:


5-1
ML
4-1
ML
2-1
ML
Lose

5-1
NL
5-1
ML
3-1
ML
1-1

I guess it wouldn't give us another day unless another NL on top of it. Eh...

Okay maybe a dumb idea.


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PunishedBen
12/30/24 4:12:45 PM
#104:


Corrik7 posted...
Has anyone claimed any role that actually provides information? I mean, if there is gonna be no kill tonight.. in theory no lynch would be pretty optimal today.

But, I mean, would we actually gain any information from it tho? If not, it kinda seems like punting the lynch. Nobody seems active right now though. I know I will not be active pretty much all new years eve and new years day either so... lol
Chang can scan and learn the full role + flavor of whoever we leave as second place on the lynch today. However, the only way for him to avoid getting roleblocked at night is if I target the roleblocker and shuffle their ability so that they cant block tonight.

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:15:47 PM
#105:


PunishedBen posted...
Chang can scan and learn the full role + flavor of whoever we leave as second place on the lynch today. However, the only way for him to avoid getting roleblocked at night is if I target the roleblocker and shuffle their ability so that they cant block tonight.
And you are the literally only person claimed to be roleblocked all game right?

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Obellisk
12/30/24 4:16:03 PM
#106:


also the only person that woul dmatter for at this point is corrik since everyone else has claimed and Chang could just lie.

So we need Chang to target Corrik and for that to be successful.

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:16:39 PM
#107:


"Meow1000 posted...

But 3P is quite still on the table, which worries me a lot more as a possibility than scum.

Crescent once played in a game where the 3P ended up aligned to either town or to scum based on it's actions. That 3P became scum aligned by forcing town Ulti into a gladiator match and beating him.

And that game was FFXIV, which was hosted by Death. If memory serves, the way Lopen is acting is pretty similar to the way the 3P in that game acted, but I don't have her crazy level of memory to know for sure."

This is a bit weird of a post.

What exactly did blade/isquen claim is their role?


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PunishedBen
12/30/24 4:16:55 PM
#108:


No, Chang also says he was roleblocked night 3. I never did get a response from him when I asked him whether or he was specifally told that he was roleblocked. I'd like that answer

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:17:51 PM
#109:


Obellisk posted...
also the only person that woul dmatter for at this point is corrik since everyone else has claimed and Chang could just lie.

So we need Chang to target Corrik and for that to be successful.
I mean, I guess if there is no kill tonight and nothing worth protecting I could claim.

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 4:19:08 PM
#110:


Corrik7 posted...
"Meow1000 posted...

But 3P is quite still on the table, which worries me a lot more as a possibility than scum.

Crescent once played in a game where the 3P ended up aligned to either town or to scum based on it's actions. That 3P became scum aligned by forcing town Ulti into a gladiator match and beating him.

And that game was FFXIV, which was hosted by Death. If memory serves, the way Lopen is acting is pretty similar to the way the 3P in that game acted, but I don't have her crazy level of memory to know for sure."

This is a bit weird of a post.

What exactly did blade/isquen claim is their role?
Meow1000 posted...
Too late Lopen.

Phil Connors, Town Timelooper. I'm the dude from Groundhog Day. I'm forced to revisit day 1 on all subsequent days and am only ever allowed to place votes on players that I previously placed votes on on day 1. This is why I commented to Lopen that if I didn't do the whole voting thing that I should be lynched immediately on day 2. I would've effectively been a voteless or severely vote-limited town.

##Vote: Blade
##Unvote:
##Vote: Chang
##Unvote:
##Vote: No Lynch
##Unvote:
##Vote: Lopen
When the votals come up, it will be like the Chang and No Lynch votes never existed. The way I broke my role was by turning it from a terrible joke to something at least reasonably confirmable. The reason I didn't want to say what my role did was because I have no night action and all I required was the chosen person to be alive with me today to make it work. I didn't think being unable to NL alone would be strong enough to serve as proof.

tl;dr: I can never vote Chang or NL for the entire rest of the game, but I can vote anyone else normally. Also, if anyone who isn't Chang replaces out, I can still vote their replacement, as they are considered to be the same person as far as my role is concerned.

Anyways, Lopen is scum #2.


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Obellisk
12/30/24 4:21:27 PM
#111:


Corrik7 posted...
I mean, I guess if there is no kill tonight and nothing worth protecting I could claim.

well now i'd only want your claim if it was to confirm that changs role is real.

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:22:03 PM
#112:


That's pretty dumb lol.

Kinda inclined to believe it for a reason. Not sure why blade was worried about 3p tho...

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Obellisk
12/30/24 4:22:53 PM
#113:


Phil Connors, Town Timelooper. I'm the dude from Groundhog Day. I'm forced to revisit day 1 on all subsequent days and am only ever allowed to place votes on players that I previously placed votes on on day 1. This is why I commented to Lopen that if I didn't do the whole voting thing that I should be lynched immediately on day 2. I would've effectively been a voteless or severely vote-limited town.

^ I honestly can't see this as being a scum power or something created by scum to gambit

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:23:37 PM
#114:


The good news for you guys is... my role is confirmable. Lol

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Obellisk
12/30/24 4:44:20 PM
#115:


Corrik7 posted...
The good news for you guys is... my role is confirmable. Lol

before or after the game endS?

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 4:44:42 PM
#116:


Corrik7 posted...
The good news for you guys is... my role is confirmable. Lol
I would come out with it then. We don't need to prove Chang can scan roles or not. He's either dead/roleblocked if he's telling the truth, or "roleblocked" if he's lying.

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:51:32 PM
#117:


PunishedBen posted...
I would come out with it then. We don't need to prove Chang can scan roles or not. He's either dead/roleblocked if he's telling the truth, or "roleblocked" if he's lying.
Doesn't this kinda eliminate the way to confirm his role?

I mean, if people are claiming a roleblocker exists, confirmable roles kinda eliminates them from being it?

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Corrik7
12/30/24 4:54:55 PM
#118:


Chang claims he was blocked but said he didn't know if edumey did it the night he was killed. Isn't this correct?

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:03:28 PM
#119:


Corrik7 posted...
Chang claims he was blocked but said he didn't know if edumey did it the night he was killed. Isn't this correct?
Yes. He claimed he was blocked after I said i was blocked. And then at first he said he didnt know if it was Dumey or not, but he says he got clarification that he was not getting his action back at the end of 24 hours from the host before the 24 hours passed.

changmas posted...
uhh

i was also blocked

changmas posted...
hopefully by dumey and my action goes through 24 hours later? though I was not told that.


changmas posted...


i PMd host at the start of the day for clarification of whether i would be notified about dumeys ability if it was used on me, since its flipped now, but I think Death is asleep, so i wont find out for several more hours.


changmas posted...
Death confirmed I would have been notified if my action was moved 24 hours, so I wasnt blocked by Dumey
It kind of looks truthful to me tbh..

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:04:45 PM
#120:


Like if he claimed blocked before I said i was day blocked, that's a little more sus. But since Scare was the second person up for lynch two days in a row, and he already willingly passed on Scare on day 1, I see no reason for scum Chang to feel he has to lie about being roleblocked this day.

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Corrik7
12/30/24 5:07:06 PM
#121:


Okay so confirming roles aren't the roleblocker should be a plus then and eliminate them.

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Corrik7
12/30/24 5:08:08 PM
#122:


Honestly can scum even win if we can confirm multiple roles aren't the roleblocker? Kinda lol.

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:11:16 PM
#123:


Corrik7 posted...
Okay so confirming roles aren't the roleblocker should be a plus then and eliminate them.
Yeah, if you are a role that can prove you're not a reolblocker + something else, I'd feel comfortable eliminating you from the pool. Somehow scum has blocked both me on DAY 2, and Chang on Night 3. And I successfully delayed Chang last night, which was night 3?. So there's still a theory out there that my role is scum and lets me swap between blocking and delaying people

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:12:37 PM
#124:


Sorry, it is Night 2 Chang claims blocked

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Obellisk
12/30/24 5:19:38 PM
#125:


well i need to step away from the computer.

Corrik, who you think we should lynch here

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:20:21 PM
#126:


Hey look its still no votes at 40 minutes left. I guess its claim time or pain time!

##Vote: Corrik

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changmas
12/30/24 5:22:19 PM
#127:


PunishedBen posted...
No, Chang also says he was roleblocked night 3. I never did get a response from him when I asked him whether or he was specifally told that he was roleblocked. I'd like that answer

yes, i was specifically told that.

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:23:21 PM
#128:


changmas posted...
yes, i was specifically told that.
Okay cool. Because yes I was also told not only that I was blocked, but that I was targeted too

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htaeD
12/30/24 5:23:58 PM
#129:


The Last Monday before 2025 Votals
(1) Corrik - Ben
(0) Peaf - (Ben)

Day ends in 36 minutes


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changmas
12/30/24 5:24:25 PM
#130:


I am here through EoD but on my phone (just boarded my train)

corrik can you confirm yourself now?

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changmas
12/30/24 5:27:05 PM
#131:


PunishedBen posted...
Okay cool. Because yes I was also told not only that I was blocked, but that I was targeted too

uh idk that its wise to legislate things this way given that scum would be notified on discord but i was only given the targeted notification when your power was used on me Ben, and not when i was blocked.

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changmas
12/30/24 5:28:27 PM
#132:


or not wise but like, fair

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:28:32 PM
#133:


Weird. Who did you try to target night 2 again?

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changmas
12/30/24 5:29:25 PM
#134:


i have only had the option to target Scare the entire game

so scare

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Isquen
12/30/24 5:31:27 PM
#135:


##vote: Corrik
##vote: changmas
You know, let's try this for posterity.

"Break the role in half" Blade, I swear. Get over myself.

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Isquen
12/30/24 5:33:33 PM
#136:


I'm not buying what chang's selling but until such a time that Corrik ever does anything but irk an entire game, let the flip sort him out. Maybe then chang can try to use his power he doesn't have.

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:35:26 PM
#137:


Oh right. Well that doesnt tell us anything I guess. Maybe it will be useful to future generations, lol

I have no idea what could passively cause you to be blocked unless your target was untargetable at the time


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Corrik7
12/30/24 5:36:38 PM
#138:


changmas posted...
I am here through EoD but on my phone (just boarded my train)

corrik can you confirm yourself now?
I cannot

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htaeD
12/30/24 5:36:46 PM
#139:


Votals as of post # 139
(1) Corrik - Ben, (Isquen)
(0) Peaf - (Ben)

Day ends in 24 minutes

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changmas
12/30/24 5:37:01 PM
#140:


Oh

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:37:16 PM
#141:


Isquen posted...
##vote: Corrik
##vote: changmas
You know, let's try this for posterity.

"Break the role in half" Blade, I swear. Get over myself.
That's effectively a vote on Corrik, for the un caught-up

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changmas
12/30/24 5:37:17 PM
#142:


Dumey could have jailkept Scare

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changmas
12/30/24 5:38:34 PM
#143:


Did scare ever indicate his action happened 24 hours later?

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changmas
12/30/24 5:40:07 PM
#144:


Corrik7 posted...
I cannot

i think you gotta claim or die then, that does not inspire confidence

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Corrik7
12/30/24 5:41:06 PM
#145:


Homura Akemi TOWN Time Blocker

My role is stupid but whatever.

Once per game in the first 24 hours of a day I can basically post for the host to stop time and reset all votes.

Fun. Lol. It's why I kinda believe blades role is that stupid too.

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:42:16 PM
#146:


I delayed Dumey, so I'm pretty sure he said he targeted Sbell on Day 2. Then on night 2 he would have gotten to act again. That's the night Dumey died. But Scare posted his result less than 12 hours after the start of Day 3, so Scare could not have been blocked that night

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changmas
12/30/24 5:43:32 PM
#147:


Corrik7 posted...
Homura Akemi TOWN Time Blocker

My role is stupid but whatever.

Once per game in the first 24 hours of a day I can basically post for the host to stop time and reset all votes.

Fun. Lol. It's why I kinda believe blades role is that stupid too.


hmmm

so i guess wallz vote would still be active

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:44:02 PM
#148:


Corrik7 posted...
Homura Akemi TOWN Time Blocker

My role is stupid but whatever.

Once per game in the first 24 hours of a day I can basically post for the host to stop time and reset all votes.

Fun. Lol. It's why I kinda believe blades role is that stupid too.
.....

I mean, it doesnt sound like a real role. It sounds like a chat GPT generated role as someone who was putting together an AI mafia at one time lol

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PunishedBen
12/30/24 5:44:57 PM
#149:


It is confirmable of course. Tomorrow. So I guess you're better off killing me today and letting Corrik live?

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Obellisk
12/30/24 5:45:20 PM
#150:


too much power.

lynch a power.

in the car.

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