Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Richter, Alucard, Aigis and Tusk vs. MG RAY, Tidus, Garrus, Shepard

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KanzarisKelshen 12/04/24 8:25:06 PM #1:	Richter Belmont, Alucard, Aigis and Tusk have challenged Metal Gear Ray, Tidus, Garrus Vakarian and Commander Shepard to a fight! Location of the fight: Luca Sphere Pool - The sphere pool blitzball tournaments take place in. Combatants do not have access to any other part of the stadium. All mercenaries will magically be able to breathe an infinite amount of time, though how well they can fight underwater is up to interpretation. Attackers and defenders will each start on one side of the field, as if the battle were a normal Blitzball match. Which side will win? Guidelines -The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment. -The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of executing a prearranged battle plan. -Unless stated otherwise, characters have access to their full arsenal of abilities and equipment. They may not always work at full power, however (e.g. a petrifying spell may have only a partial hindering effect not seen in gameplay or even fail outright against sufficiently powerful mercenaries). Use your own discretion. -No mercenary can ever start in a location where they would die instantly, destroy the arena merely by existing in it, or end up ringed out of the terrain before abilities. If there's no room within a terrain to fit them, the terrain will stretch out until there's at least one yard of available, moving, safe space. Attacks may not damage the terrain enough to cause automatic deaths or ring-outs, save with a concerted effort. -Mercenaries are considered 'downed' when defeated, unable to be roused except through a revival technique. A revival technique cannot affect a mercenary whose physical body has been completely destroyed and will not relocate them away from danger (ex. falling off of the terrain, being impaled, falling in lava), unless it would naturally do so in its own universe. -There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from. Rules for Voting -Bold your votes. -You do not need to justify for your vote, though the admins reserve the right to disqualify votes in the advent of obvious alt voting and other similar scenarios. -Leaders cannot vote for their own teams, but they are free to argue their case. -If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish. -This match will end in 24 hours. Richter Belmont is as he appears in the Castlevania series, wielding his trademark Vampire Killer whip. He has access to 99 hearts and may use all of his sub-weapons, but the Stopwatch will only freeze projectiles and will not affect enemies directly. He may use item crash attacks, so long as he can pay their heart costs. Feats from the Castlevania anime are considered valid. He has instructed his fellow hunters of the occult and unlocked their true potential. Alucard, Tusk and Aigis' attacks and spells will bypass all immunities, resistances and armour. Alucard is as he appears in the Castlevania series. He has access to his full set of Alucard equipment, Crissaegrim, Mablung, Masamune, Shield Rod, Fist of Tulkas, Skull, Dark and Iron shields, two Heaven Swords, Holy Glasses, Twilight Cloak and all relics, spells and subweapons. He may summon any familiars he likes, though Fairy will not come with healing items to heal him with. Feats from the Castlevania anime are considered valid. He may not use the Alucard Shield's effect when combined with the Mablung or Shield Rod. Aigis is as she appears in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax with all of her moves available. Pallas Athena also has all of her skills and properties from Persona 3 and Persona Q2 available. She must actively focus to apply the effects of Aegis Shielding, but it will always trigger if she does so. She is tracking Garrus, and will be constantly aware of his position throughout the fight. Tusk is as he appears in Killer Instinct (2013). He has access to his feats and abilities shown in the Killer Instinct novellas and Killer Instinct 2, with the exception of his second Ultimate Combo. He does not have access to combo breakers, counter breakers, or any other gameplay mechanic-related techniques, Deflect Windows and Instinct Mode aside, though he has to build Instinct Modes meter up. ~VS~ Tidus is as he appears in Final Fantasy X. He has maxed out his section of the Sphere Grid, as well as Wakka's. He has access to all of his Overdrives, and may charge them with the Warrior and Comrade modes. He is equipped with his Caladbolg and armor with the SOS-Haste, Slowproof, Water Eater and HP +30% abilities. He has full use of his Dissidia NT moveset as well. Metal Gear RAY is as it appears in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, with full access to all of its attacks and in top condition. Garrus Vakarian is as he appears in Mass Effect 3, with his Black Widow sniper rifle and M-7 Lancer Assault Rifle and all powers seen therein. He will have a full minute before the match begins to act as he pleases to prepare for the battle. Commander Monika Shepard is as she appears in Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut, at the peak of her powers. She is an Earthborn with the Ruthless psychological profile. She is an Infiltrator with access to all of the class' valid weapons, appropriate optimal equipment, and all related powers and trainings the class would have access to. So long as it does not contradict the games, supplementary material is considered valid. FIGHT! PS: We're now on Discord! If you want to join us, here's a link: https://discord.gg/hDfh5ESj --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:983182504] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Richter Belmont, Alucard, Aigis and Tusk have challenged Metal Gear Ray, Tidus, Garrus Vakarian and Commander Shepard to a fight! Location of the fight: Luca Sphere Pool - The sphere pool blitzball tournaments take place in. Combatants do not have access to any other part of the stadium. All mercenaries will magically be able to breathe an infinite amount of time, though how well they can fight underwater is up to interpretation. Attackers and defenders will each start on one side of the field, as if the battle were a normal Blitzball match. Which side will win?Guidelines -The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment. -The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of executing a prearranged battle plan. -Unless stated otherwise, characters have access to their full arsenal of abilities and equipment. They may not always work at full power, however (e.g. a petrifying spell may have only a partial hindering effect not seen in gameplay or even fail outright against sufficiently powerful mercenaries). Use your own discretion. -No mercenary can ever start in a location where they would die instantly, destroy the arena merely by existing in it, or end up ringed out of the terrain before abilities. If there's no room within a terrain to fit them, the terrain will stretch out until there's at least one yard of available, moving, safe space. Attacks may not damage the terrain enough to cause automatic deaths or ring-outs, save with a concerted effort. -Mercenaries are considered 'downed' when defeated, unable to be roused except through a revival technique. A revival technique cannot affect a mercenary whose physical body has been completely destroyed and will not relocate them away from danger (ex. falling off of the terrain, being impaled, falling in lava), unless it would naturally do so in its own universe. -There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.Rules for Voting -Bold your votes.-You do not need to justify for your vote, though the admins reserve the right to disqualify votes in the advent of obvious alt voting and other similar scenarios. -Leaders cannot vote for their own teams, but they are free to argue their case. -If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish. -This match will end in 24 hours.Richter Belmont is as he appears in the Castlevania series, wielding his trademark Vampire Killer whip. He has access to 99 hearts and may use all of his sub-weapons, but the Stopwatch will only freeze projectiles and will not affect enemies directly. He may use item crash attacks, so long as he can pay their heart costs. Feats from the Castlevania anime are considered valid. He has instructed his fellow hunters of the occult and unlocked their true potential. Alucard, Tusk and Aigis' attacks and spells will bypass all immunities, resistances and armour.Alucard is as he appears in the Castlevania series. He has access to his full set of Alucard equipment, Crissaegrim, Mablung, Masamune, Shield Rod, Fist of Tulkas, Skull, Dark and Iron shields, two Heaven Swords, Holy Glasses, Twilight Cloak and all relics, spells and subweapons. He may summon any familiars he likes, though Fairy will not come with healing items to heal him with. Feats from the Castlevania anime are considered valid. He may not use the Alucard Shield's effect when combined with the Mablung or Shield Rod. Aigis is as she appears in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax with all of her moves available. Pallas Athena also has all of her skills and properties from Persona 3 and Persona Q2 available. She must actively focus to apply the effects of Aegis Shielding, but it will always trigger if she does so. She is tracking Garrus, and will be constantly aware of his position throughout the fight.Tusk is as he appears in Killer Instinct (2013). He has access to his feats and abilities shown in the Killer Instinct novellas and Killer Instinct 2, with the exception of his second Ultimate Combo. He does not have access to combo breakers, counter breakers, or any other gameplay mechanic-related techniques, Deflect Windows and Instinct Mode aside, though he has to build Instinct Modes meter up.~VS~Tidus is as he appears in Final Fantasy X. He has maxed out his section of the Sphere Grid, as well as Wakka's. He has access to all of his Overdrives, and may charge them with the Warrior and Comrade modes. He is equipped with his Caladbolg and armor with the SOS-Haste, Slowproof, Water Eater and HP +30% abilities. He has full use of his Dissidia NT moveset as well.Metal Gear RAY is as it appears in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, with full access to all of its attacks and in top condition. Garrus Vakarian is as he appears in Mass Effect 3, with his Black Widow sniper rifle and M-7 Lancer Assault Rifle and all powers seen therein. He will have a full minute before the match begins to act as he pleases to prepare for the battle.Commander Monika Shepard is as she appears in Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut, at the peak of her powers. She is an Earthborn with the Ruthless psychological profile. She is an Infiltrator with access to all of the class' valid weapons, appropriate optimal equipment, and all related powers and trainings the class would have access to. So long as it does not contradict the games, supplementary material is considered valid.FIGHT!PS: We're now on Discord! If you want to join us, here's a link: https://discord.gg/hDfh5ESj</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 12/04/24 8:27:11 PM #2:	JC's Argument: So Im not entirely sure what Garrus does with his minute inside the waterball Ill leave that to DC to argue. In any case, this match seems like its much more advantageous to my team than other terrains. Essentially it puts Tusk within striking distance of the enemy team in short order which is devastating for them given Vampire Killer gives every member of my team the ability to pierce armor, resistances, etc. So even the tankiest bois are going to have issues. Ill admit that Richter is somewhat hindered here his ice magic is mostly limited to close-range and probably freezes him in place more than anything. Not a huge deal because hell swim around a bit while Shepard focuses him at the start of the match. RAY is an effective swimmer but Tusk is just going to completely shred through him and then focus on the others. Any of Shepard and Garrus guns that rely on explosive firepower are going to be useless here its my understanding that Shepard has a mass acceleration (effectively a railgun) style weapon but focusing on Richter is going to create openings for the rest of my team. Aigis and Alucard arent necessarily hindered by being in the water here. Alucard is still going to be able to move faster than the average human because of his super-strength and his swords arent going to be impacted here. Tusk is going to focus on RAY initially because of his sheer size and disruption capabilities, but that fight isnt going to last terribly long because of his penetration being increased by Vampire Killer. Aigis in particular is actually quite effective shes been shown to be able to have no issues with water (she stands in hot springs with no issues) and even if her finger guns are potentially impacted, her Persona isnt going to have any difficulties. Shes going to know exactly where Garrus is so even if he tries to get a sneak attack in, hes going to get completely decked through his armor by a quick Gods Hand or Akasha Arts which deals heavy Strike damage to all enemies. Once Garrus is dispatched, Akasha Arts is particularly devastating here because it hits multiple enemies and can hit the rest of the team if they werent starting near where Garrus started. RAY is actually going to be somewhat of a hindrance to his own team here until Tusk takes him out, hes simply going to get in the way of Shepards line of fire. Shepard wont be able to shoot effectively without hitting RAY initially. This will allow Aigis to clean up Garrus and Tusk to clean up RAY before Tidus and Shepard are killed in the final pass. Shepard is going to ignore Tusk until RAY is cleaved which means Tusk is going to have an easier time closing the distance. As a final note, it really doesnt take much to kill Garrus and Shepard here because theyre not really super durable under their armor and shields thats usually their defense but Vampire Killer just completely neutralizes it. --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:983182533] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>JC's Argument: So Im not entirely sure what Garrus does with his minute inside the waterball Ill leave that to DC to argue.In any case, this match seems like its much more advantageous to my team than other terrains. Essentially it puts Tusk within striking distance of the enemy team in short order which is devastating for them given Vampire Killer gives every member of my team the ability to pierce armor, resistances, etc. So even the tankiest bois are going to have issues. Ill admit that Richter is somewhat hindered here his ice magic is mostly limited to close-range and probably freezes him in place more than anything. Not a huge deal because hell swim around a bit while Shepard focuses him at the start of the match. RAY is an effective swimmer but Tusk is just going to completely shred through him and then focus on the others. Any of Shepard and Garrus guns that rely on explosive firepower are going to be useless here its my understanding that Shepard has a mass acceleration (effectively a railgun) style weapon but focusing on Richter is going to create openings for the rest of my team.Aigis and Alucard arent necessarily hindered by being in the water here. Alucard is still going to be able to move faster than the average human because of his super-strength and his swords arent going to be impacted here. Tusk is going to focus on RAY initially because of his sheer size and disruption capabilities, but that fight isnt going to last terribly long because of his penetration being increased by Vampire Killer.Aigis in particular is actually quite effective shes been shown to be able to have no issues with water (she stands in hot springs with no issues) and even if her finger guns are potentially impacted, her Persona isnt going to have any difficulties. Shes going to know exactly where Garrus is so even if he tries to get a sneak attack in, hes going to get completely decked through his armor by a quick Gods Hand or Akasha Arts which deals heavy Strike damage to all enemies. Once Garrus is dispatched, Akasha Arts is particularly devastating here because it hits multiple enemies and can hit the rest of the team if they werent starting near where Garrus started. RAY is actually going to be somewhat of a hindrance to his own team here until Tusk takes him out, hes simply going to get in the way of Shepards line of fire. Shepard wont be able to shoot effectively without hitting RAY initially. This will allow Aigis to clean up Garrus and Tusk to clean up RAY before Tidus and Shepard are killed in the final pass. Shepard is going to ignore Tusk until RAY is cleaved which means Tusk is going to have an easier time closing the distance.As a final note, it really doesnt take much to kill Garrus and Shepard here because theyre not really super durable under their armor and shields thats usually their defense but Vampire Killer just completely neutralizes it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 12/04/24 8:28:12 PM #3:	DC's Argument: My argument: Okay so I think my team would win a fair fight pretty solidly here, I have the only two swimmers in Tidus and RAY. I have the only source of buffs with Tidus. The advice thing to Shepard is kind of meaningless. "The sword guy can't hurt your shields." Cool, Shep took Infiltrator (the cloaking sniper class, same as Garrus), why would she want the sword guy near her at all? Also she's a Ruthless Renegade Shep, you tell her Tusk is a weakling and she's probably going to open up by blowing his head off. I trust her and Garrus can shoot just fine underwater, their guns are explicitly powered by Sci Fi Bullshit mass accelerators, those bullets are moving in spite of water resistance. The armor bypassing thing is nasty, or it would be except the other team is mostly melee and stuck in a fishbowl (except Aigis, who is definitely sinking right to the bottom. She's heavy). And otherwise Aigis gets murdered pretty hardcore by Garrus, who has Overload and can short out her electronics, Alucard is okay at underwater mobility but also starting the fight getting punched in the face and sucking in water. Poor Richter is famous for his Super Drowning Skills, dude's also going right to the bottom and staying there, even if the water won't technically kill him. Tusk, provided Shep doesn't immediately murder him because of the advice, is tasked with swimming around and also carrying a giant broadsword as his only weapon. Yeah. Lot of dudes sinking here. RAY meanwhile is fully aquatic and the most mobile thing on the field besides Tidus, armed with a water cannon that can punch through solid steel. Also the biggest target on the field, so I imagine everyone will be focusing on RAY first by default, letting Tidus get off a Haste and Garrus/Shepard to snipe. So my team would probably win a fair fight. This isn't a fair fight as Garrus also has a minute at the start to swim over, poop out a bunch of mines at the enemy team's spawn point and swim back. Uh, gg --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:983182543] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>DC's Argument: My argument: Okay so I think my team would win a fair fight pretty solidly here, I have the only two swimmers in Tidus and RAY. I have the only source of buffs with Tidus. The advice thing to Shepard is kind of meaningless. "The sword guy can't hurt your shields." Cool, Shep took Infiltrator (the cloaking sniper class, same as Garrus), why would she want the sword guy near her at all?Also she's a Ruthless Renegade Shep, you tell her Tusk is a weakling and she's probably going to open up by blowing his head off. I trust her and Garrus can shoot just fine underwater, their guns are explicitly powered by Sci Fi Bullshit mass accelerators, those bullets are moving in spite of water resistance. The armor bypassing thing is nasty, or it would be except the other team is mostly melee and stuck in a fishbowl (except Aigis, who is definitely sinking right to the bottom. She's heavy). And otherwise Aigis gets murdered pretty hardcore by Garrus, who has Overload and can short out her electronics, Alucard is okay at underwater mobility but also starting the fight getting punched in the face and sucking in water. Poor Richter is famous for his Super Drowning Skills, dude's also going right to the bottom and staying there, even if the water won't technically kill him. Tusk, provided Shep doesn't immediately murder him because of the advice, is tasked with swimming around and also carrying a giant broadsword as his only weapon. Yeah. Lot of dudes sinking here.RAY meanwhile is fully aquatic and the most mobile thing on the field besides Tidus, armed with a water cannon that can punch through solid steel. Also the biggest target on the field, so I imagine everyone will be focusing on RAY first by default, letting Tidus get off a Haste and Garrus/Shepard to snipe.So my team would probably win a fair fight. This isn't a fair fight as Garrus also has a minute at the start to swim over, poop out a bunch of mines at the enemy team's spawn point and swim back. Uh, gg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dante 12/04/24 8:31:52 PM #4:	all i can imagine is someone desperately trying to use a whip underwater and it's just not doing anything --- boring and mundane signature Now with more bold! Less Italics due to bold <cite>Dante posted [p:983182584] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>all i can imagine is someone desperately trying to use a whip underwater and it's just not doing anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/04/24 8:42:19 PM #5:	join us in discord so I can use the Pom Pom hey guys emoji --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983182710] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>join us in discord so I can use the Pom Pom hey guys emoji</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 12/04/24 8:42:55 PM #6:	Dante posted... all i can imagine is someone desperately trying to use a whip underwater and it's just not doing anything to be fair, guns ALSO kinda just don't work underwater. Even if the propulsion systems are sci-fi bullshit, the projectile itself is kinda not going anywhere. --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:983182717] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Dante posted... </cite><quote>all i can imagine is someone desperately trying to use a whip underwater and it's just not doing anything</quote>to be fair, guns ALSO kinda just don't work underwater. Even if the propulsion systems are sci-fi bullshit, the projectile itself is kinda not going anywhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dante 12/04/24 8:44:42 PM #7:	oh yeah, completely agreed. and while its amusing to imagine the gunz and rockets basically fizzling out, its MORE amusing to imagine a limp mass of thing just not whipping when it should be whipping --- boring and mundane signature Now with more bold! Less Italics due to bold <cite>Dante posted [p:983182747] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>oh yeah, completely agreed. and while its amusing to imagine the gunz and rockets basically fizzling out, its MORE amusing to imagine a limp mass of thing just not whipping when it should be whipping</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/04/24 8:49:13 PM #8:	Dante posted... oh yeah, completely agreed. and while its amusing to imagine the gunz and rockets basically fizzling out, its MORE amusing to imagine a limp mass of thing just not whipping when it should be whipping dont forget richters ice magic where he can freeze himself in-place --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983182810] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Dante posted... </cite><quote>oh yeah, completely agreed. and while its amusing to imagine the gunz and rockets basically fizzling out, its MORE amusing to imagine a limp mass of thing just not whipping when it should be whipping</quote>dont forget richters ice magic where he can freeze himself in-place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 12/04/24 8:49:21 PM #9:	MG Ray solos --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:983182812] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>MG Ray solos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/04/24 8:53:59 PM #10:	Can't Alucard just cut through the Ray in like 3 seconds with his Richter advice --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:983182867] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Can't Alucard just cut through the Ray in like 3 seconds with his Richter advice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 12/04/24 8:55:03 PM #11:	Dante posted... all i can imagine is someone desperately trying to use a whip underwater and it's just not doing anything It happens to most guys at some point in their lives --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:983182879] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Dante posted... </cite><quote>all i can imagine is someone desperately trying to use a whip underwater and it's just not doing anything</quote>It happens to most guys at some point in their lives</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/04/24 8:55:08 PM #12:	Lopen posted... Can't Alucard just cut through the Ray in like 3 seconds with his Richter advice correct RAY melts like butter here --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983182881] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>Can't Alucard just cut through the Ray in like 3 seconds with his Richter advice</quote>correctRAY melts like butter here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dante 12/04/24 8:57:31 PM #13:	i'm not sure what stops alucard from just turretting with Crissaegrim but i'm also not sure what forces the other team to walk into the death zone (beyond ray needing melee to really do anything here), draw incoming --- boring and mundane signature Now with more bold! Less Italics due to bold <cite>Dante posted [p:983182919] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>i'm not sure what stops alucard from just turretting with Crissaegrimbut i'm also not sure what forces the other team to walk into the death zone (beyond ray needing melee to really do anything here), draw incoming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/04/24 9:00:27 PM #14:	oh no --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:983182958] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>oh no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 12/04/24 9:00:55 PM #15:	Sure, RAY could be screwed. If any attacks actually land on him before he shreds his opponents. I dont buy their ability to actually hit him with anything in an underwater environment before he nukes them with firepower that was designed just for this occasion. And thats before you factor in his teams support. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:983182964] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Sure, RAY could be screwed.If any attacks actually land on him before he shreds his opponents. I dont buy their ability to actually hit him with anything in an underwater environment before he nukes them with firepower that was designed just for this occasion. And thats before you factor in his teams support. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega_Mana 12/04/24 9:09:27 PM #16:	Just Monika --- "Mostly I'm just at a loss right now. At a loss that the actual majority of people are CHOOSING this direction for our country." - FD <cite>Mega_Mana posted [p:983183051] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Just Monika</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/04/24 9:19:04 PM #17:	The ray probably takes up half the Luca sphere pool. Bigger body of water I could see this being a problem Alucard needs his heaven rocket swords from Harmony of Despair that would seal it KanzarisKelshen posted... two Heaven Swords, What? I swear I didn't read this why is this of all things in his write up Alucard with Richter advice wins --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:983183158] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>The ray probably takes up half the Luca sphere pool. Bigger body of water I could see this being a problemAlucard needs his heaven rocket swords from Harmony of Despair that would seal itKanzarisKelshen posted... </cite><quote>two Heaven Swords,</quote>What? I swear I didn't read this why is this of all things in his write upAlucard with Richter advice wins</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 12/04/24 9:34:47 PM #18:	It's really coming down to can Alucard and Aigis beat Tidus here, which I think with the VK buff is a win for Team Castlevania. Explicit magic seems more likely to be able to ignore the debuff of having to water resistance, which those three do have. Also uh, RAY is like, all armor. I think literally anything touching it can tear it to pieces. --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:983183338] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>It's really coming down to can Alucard and Aigis beat Tidus here, which I think with the VK buff is a win for Team Castlevania. Explicit magic seems more likely to be able to ignore the debuff of having to water resistance, which those three do have.Also uh, RAY is like, all armor. I think literally anything touching it can tear it to pieces.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 12/04/24 9:35:20 PM #19:	Wasn't RAY designed as an underwater Metal Gear? Or am I misremembering? --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:983183345] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't RAY designed as an underwater Metal Gear? Or am I misremembering?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 12/04/24 9:40:21 PM #20:	Hbthebattle posted... Also uh, RAY is like, all armor. I think literally anything touching it can tear it to pieces. And RAYs hydro cutter will tear anything it touches to pieces. It doesnt need a debuff! Mewtwo59 posted... Wasn't RAY designed as an underwater Metal Gear? Or am I misremembering? Yes. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:983183404] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Hbthebattle posted... </cite><quote>Also uh, RAY is like, all armor. I think literally anything touching it can tear it to pieces.</quote>And RAYs hydro cutter will tear anything it touches to pieces. It doesnt need a debuff!Mewtwo59 posted... </cite><quote>Wasn't RAY designed as an underwater Metal Gear? Or am I misremembering?</quote>Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 12/04/24 9:44:50 PM #21:	Also, no one seems to have mentioned Garruss pre-fight prep time. That is at least as match warping as Richters advice. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:983183451] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Also, no one seems to have mentioned Garruss pre-fight prep time. That is at least as match warping as Richters advice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 12/04/24 9:45:50 PM #22:	I know Garrus said that Turians are terrible swimmers at some point in the trilogy, so I'm not sure how much he can actually do here. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:983183458] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>I know Garrus said that Turians are terrible swimmers at some point in the trilogy, so I'm not sure how much he can actually do here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/04/24 9:54:37 PM #23:	Garrus is worthless dont see his guns firing right here and what prep is he gonna do in an open sphere --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:983183545] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Garrus is worthless dont see his guns firing right here and what prep is he gonna do in an open sphere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/04/24 9:56:11 PM #24:	And like so is Shepard. Don't see an infiltrator having any use here either. Its basically Tidus + Ray vs the other team --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:983183563] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>And like so is Shepard. Don't see an infiltrator having any use here either.Its basically Tidus + Ray vs the other team</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeeksFire 12/04/24 10:00:26 PM #25:	Ray There's too much general anti against things, and given a direct situation where Ray has immediate protection with bombs and the like. Dante posted... (beyond ray needing melee to really do anything here) Ray has the murder hydro pump available (part of it's loadout that existed to destroy actual metal gears), and an infinite source of water, people are going to get churn'd with haste/slow and stasis holding the table and prox mines being depth charges to keep the fight from being too in melee. Welcome once again to the Luca Sphere Pool, a unique location that really REALLY screws with fights. <cite>ZeeksFire posted [p:983183602] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>RayThere's too much general anti against things, and given a direct situation where Ray has immediate protection with bombs and the like.Dante posted... </cite><quote>(beyond ray needing melee to really do anything here)</quote>Ray has the murder hydro pump available (part of it's loadout that existed to destroy actual metal gears), and an infinite source of water, people are going to get churn'd with haste/slow and stasis holding the table and prox mines being depth charges to keep the fight from being too in melee. Welcome once again to the Luca Sphere Pool, a unique location that really REALLY screws with fights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/04/24 10:31:18 PM #26:	I have been informed in discord arguments that this version of RAY doesnt even have the water cutters as its revengeance RAY --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983183948] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>I have been informed in discord arguments that this version of RAY doesnt even have the water cutters as its revengeance RAY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/04/24 10:32:21 PM #27:	Chaeix posted... I have been informed in discord arguments that this version of RAY doesnt even have the water cutters as its revengeance RAY What I'm learning throughout this topic is that no one one either team is worth shit in this terrain except for Tidus lol --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:983183959] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>I have been informed in discord arguments that this version of RAY doesnt even have the water cutters as its revengeance RAY</quote>What I'm learning throughout this topic is that no one one either team is worth shit in this terrain except for Tidus lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 12/04/24 10:38:07 PM #28:	Chaeix posted... I have been informed in discord arguments that this version of RAY doesnt even have the water cutters as its revengeance RAY Do we actually know it doesnt have one? It cant use it unless its at least partially submerged because it has to draw on an external water source. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:983184017] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>I have been informed in discord arguments that this version of RAY doesnt even have the water cutters as its revengeance RAY</quote>Do we actually know it doesnt have one? It cant use it unless its at least partially submerged because it has to draw on an external water source.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedJeezy 12/04/24 10:39:08 PM #29:	Shepard has Stasis and Dominate as an Infiltrator, he should be able to contribute somewhat, unlike Garrus --- There are no pan-Asian supermarkets down in hell <cite>PunishedJeezy posted [p:983184025] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Shepard has Stasis and Dominate as an Infiltrator, he should be able to contribute somewhat, unlike Garrus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedJeezy 12/04/24 10:40:31 PM #30:	redrocket posted... Do we actually know it doesnt have one? It cant use it unless its at least partially submerged because it has to draw on an external water source. The MG wiki seems to indicate they were removed to put in the new weapons for the Revengeance version: "The refit renders RAY's back-mounted cluster missiles and the hydraulic cutter obsolete, replacing them with stealth cruise missiles and a hugely powerful plasma cannon. " https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_RAY_(Unmanned_Gear) --- There are no pan-Asian supermarkets down in hell <cite>PunishedJeezy posted [p:983184043] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted... </cite><quote>Do we actually know it doesnt have one? It cant use it unless its at least partially submerged because it has to draw on an external water source.</quote>The MG wiki seems to indicate they were removed to put in the new weapons for the Revengeance version:"The refit renders RAY's back-mounted cluster missiles and the hydraulic cutter obsolete, replacing them with stealth cruise missiles and a hugely powerful plasma cannon. "https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_RAY_(Unmanned_Gear)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/04/24 10:45:42 PM #31:	PunishedJeezy posted... The MG wiki seems to indicate they were removed to put in the new weapons for the Revengeance version: "The refit renders RAY's back-mounted cluster missiles and the hydraulic cutter obsolete, replacing them with stealth cruise missiles and a hugely powerful plasma cannon. " https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_RAY_(Unmanned_Gear) Thanks Jeezy, was about to come in with that exact quote and citation lol --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983184105] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>PunishedJeezy posted... </cite><quote>The MG wiki seems to indicate they were removed to put in the new weapons for the Revengeance version:"The refit renders RAY's back-mounted cluster missiles and the hydraulic cutter obsolete, replacing them with stealth cruise missiles and a hugely powerful plasma cannon. "https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_RAY_(Unmanned_Gear)</quote>Thanks Jeezy, was about to come in with that exact quote and citation lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AriaOfBolo 12/04/24 10:46:13 PM #32:	who's running this waterball team I want a word --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! She is messy, but she's kind; she is lonely, most of the time <cite>AriaOfBolo posted [p:983184112] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>who's running this waterball team I want a word</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/04/24 10:48:18 PM #33:	Also Aigis sinking to the bottom is kind of advantageous when you think about it. Shes able to just run along the bottom throwing out Akasha Arts instead of even needing to try and swim. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983184134] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Also Aigis sinking to the bottom is kind of advantageous when you think about it. Shes able to just run along the bottom throwing out Akasha Arts instead of even needing to try and swim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 12/04/24 10:53:05 PM #34:	Chaeix posted... Also Aigis sinking to the bottom is kind of advantageous when you think about it. Shes able to just run along the bottom throwing out Akasha Arts instead of even needing to try and swim. You dont just run in water. Unless she has a magical ability to ignore water resistance. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:983184184] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Also Aigis sinking to the bottom is kind of advantageous when you think about it. Shes able to just run along the bottom throwing out Akasha Arts instead of even needing to try and swim.</quote>You dont just run in water. Unless she has a magical ability to ignore water resistance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/04/24 10:56:35 PM #35:	redrocket posted... You dont just run in water. Unless she has a magical ability to ignore water resistance. okay well she can still use akasha arts or any other persona skill if she's standing there, it's not like RAY is everywhere at once --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983184215] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted... </cite><quote>You dont just run in water. Unless she has a magical ability to ignore water resistance.</quote>okay well she can still use akasha arts or any other persona skill if she's standing there, it's not like RAY is everywhere at once</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeeksFire 12/04/24 11:00:59 PM #36:	Well, annoying to know on no water blaster, although the mobility and the plasma cannon would make up for it kind-of, (although would rather have the water cutter in situation) <cite>ZeeksFire posted [p:983184258] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Well, annoying to know on no water blaster, although the mobility and the plasma cannon would make up for it kind-of, (although would rather have the water cutter in situation)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedJeezy 12/04/24 11:13:52 PM #37:	RAY deserves to be a unstoppable threat in the waterbowl, he needs a revision to give him the water cutter and anti-ship missiles --- There are no pan-Asian supermarkets down in hell <cite>PunishedJeezy posted [p:983184428] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>RAY deserves to be a unstoppable threat in the waterbowl, he needs a revision to give him the water cutter and anti-ship missiles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 12/04/24 11:30:22 PM #38:	Ray --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://i.imgur.com/AWY4xHy.jpg <cite>Eddv posted [p:983184592] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Ray</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greengravy294 12/04/24 11:30:52 PM #39:	No more underwater battles Bros --- https://imgur.com/a/LEqiW https://imgur.com/iXHxhET <cite>greengravy294 posted [p:983184597] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>No more underwater battles Bros </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greengravy294 12/04/24 11:33:53 PM #40:	Also preliminarily voting for Team Mass Effect wit Ray Feels like there's a massive gulf of power diff here especially since I used to own like half these nerds I think --- https://imgur.com/a/LEqiW https://imgur.com/iXHxhET <cite>greengravy294 posted [p:983184631] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Also preliminarily voting for Team Mass Effect wit RayFeels like there's a massive gulf of power diff here especially since I used to own like half these nerds I think </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 12/04/24 11:39:27 PM #41:	Just for everyones reference the wiki gives the following dimensions for the modified RAY: height: 21.5 m length: 16 m width: 32 m There are no official dimensions for a Bitzball pool, but this Reddit post gives an estimated diameter of 50 m https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/24ny08/blitzball_arena_dimensions_derived/ Hopefully this helps visualizing things better. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:983184669] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Just for everyones referencethe wiki gives the following dimensions for the modified RAY:height: 21.5 mlength: 16 mwidth: 32 mThere are no official dimensions for a Bitzball pool, but this Reddit post gives an estimated diameter of 50 m https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/24ny08/blitzball_arena_dimensions_derived/Hopefully this helps visualizing things better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 12/05/24 12:04:13 AM #42:	Ray takes up like half the arena and the entire enemy team can cut him to ribbons, I don't think he's going to win this Size isn't an advantage if you don't have defense to go along with it --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:983184878] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Ray takes up like half the arena and the entire enemy team can cut him to ribbons, I don't think he's going to win thisSize isn't an advantage if you don't have defense to go along with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kamekguy 12/05/24 12:04:18 AM #43:	I do not see what is stopping Tusk from simply throwing his magical consciousness-controlled sword that is confirmed to effortlessly cut through cables dozens of times thicker than the Golden Gate bridge and has showings against being held by stasis specifically at RAY and cutting its head off. Like Warg-Gram just being mjolnir thrown around the water and back sounds pretty good to me. --- Mario Vs Cloud 2002: A Video Retrospective - https://youtu.be/1dx4t6H_K9Y Full Channel Available Here!: https://www.youtube.com/c/designingfor <cite>Kamekguy posted [p:983184879] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>I do not see what is stopping Tusk from simply throwing his magical consciousness-controlled sword that is confirmed to effortlessly cut through cables dozens of times thicker than the Golden Gate bridge and has showings against being held by stasis specifically at RAY and cutting its head off.Like Warg-Gram just being mjolnir thrown around the water and back sounds pretty good to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/05/24 12:13:42 AM #44:	Kamekguy posted... I do not see what is stopping Tusk from simply throwing his magical consciousness-controlled sword that is confirmed to effortlessly cut through cables dozens of times thicker than the Golden Gate bridge and has showings against being held by stasis specifically at RAY and cutting its head off. Like Warg-Gram just being mjolnir thrown around the water and back sounds pretty good to me. this is the Tusk invalidation-invalidation we so desperately needed --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983184946] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Kamekguy posted... </cite><quote>I do not see what is stopping Tusk from simply throwing his magical consciousness-controlled sword that is confirmed to effortlessly cut through cables dozens of times thicker than the Golden Gate bridge and has showings against being held by stasis specifically at RAY and cutting its head off.Like Warg-Gram just being mjolnir thrown around the water and back sounds pretty good to me.</quote>this is the Tusk invalidation-invalidation we so desperately needed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 12/05/24 12:47:34 AM #45:	KamikazePotato posted... What I'm learning throughout this topic is that no one one either team is worth shit in this terrain except for Tidus lol --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:983185192] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>What I'm learning throughout this topic is that no one one either team is worth shit in this terrain except for Tidus lol</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 12/05/24 12:48:42 AM #46:	Wow fandom thanks for ruining my emoji meme by turning the astronauts into rocketandmans --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:983185195] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Wow fandom thanks for ruining my emoji meme by turning the astronauts into rocketandmans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/05/24 12:51:54 AM #47:	Kamekguy posted... I do not see what is stopping Tusk from simply throwing his magical consciousness-controlled sword that is confirmed to effortlessly cut through cables dozens of times thicker than the Golden Gate bridge and has showings against being held by stasis specifically at RAY and cutting its head off. Like Warg-Gram just being mjolnir thrown around the water and back sounds pretty good to me. That's the risk you run with fielding a Merc from a game no one on B8 has actually played! --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:983185222] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Kamekguy posted... </cite><quote>I do not see what is stopping Tusk from simply throwing his magical consciousness-controlled sword that is confirmed to effortlessly cut through cables dozens of times thicker than the Golden Gate bridge and has showings against being held by stasis specifically at RAY and cutting its head off.Like Warg-Gram just being mjolnir thrown around the water and back sounds pretty good to me.</quote>That's the risk you run with fielding a Merc from a game no one on B8 has actually played!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 12/05/24 1:02:17 AM #48:	KamikazePotato posted... That's the risk you run with fielding a Merc from a game no one on B8 has actually played! well the idea here was to highlight him in a showmatch here that wasn't a swimming pool butttt --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:983185296] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>That's the risk you run with fielding a Merc from a game no one on B8 has actually played!</quote>well the idea here was to highlight him in a showmatch here that wasn't a swimming pool butttt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rwlh 12/05/24 5:43:33 AM #49:	up <cite>rwlh posted [p:983186542] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ytterbicide 12/05/24 6:23:10 AM #50:	Is Team Tidus. Hope I am clear to understand. Curvature of the Blitzball field makes questions of Ray. Very good arsenal for field he has no clearance in. With armor shredding from fighter like Aigis or Tusk that is very fast the gap is closed too quick. But this match is underwater. He need do little but distract the other caster while Tidus carves away - massive size will do. I give other team better performance overall because Garrus, Monika are heavily downgraded, but the other two being so amphibious is such massive advantage I do not believe that matters. Haste + Scan + Final Fantasy Sword/Sorcery that sounds good enough with field type advantage. Tusk is likely best fighter given the conditions given his origin and flexibility. I see other team's winning strategy where the other three use their athletics and projectiles to distract while he cleaves through other team. Aigis is waterproof but not sure how effective she will be in Blitzball pool. Alucard is very good but casting time is put to question. Richter is about as good as Sonic in this environment. Which is not. -- Query: How well can both teams' casting be done underwater? Can Garrus do anything with field in his extra time? Can "borrow" weapons from rest of his team? Because borrowing from Ray and then scattering bombs everywhere before match - second winning strategy. Aigis knowing his location matters little when he can constrict team movement before match begins. --- I owe it to y'all, DpOblivion and BKShiekah. Congrats on your brackets! <cite>Ytterbicide posted [p:983186725] in ~FIGHT!~ R... [t:80896318]...</cite> <quote>Is Team Tidus. Hope I am clear to understand.Curvature of the Blitzball field makes questions of Ray. Very good arsenal for field he has no clearance in. With armor shredding from fighter like Aigis or Tusk that is very fast the gap is closed too quick. But this match is underwater. He need do little but distract the other caster while Tidus carves away - massive size will do. I give other team better performance overall because Garrus, Monika are heavily downgraded, but the other two being so amphibious is such massive advantage I do not believe that matters. Haste + Scan + Final Fantasy Sword/Sorcery that sounds good enough with field type advantage.Tusk is likely best fighter given the conditions given his origin and flexibility. I see other team's winning strategy where the other three use their athletics and projectiles to distract while he cleaves through other team. Aigis is waterproof but not sure how effective she will be in Blitzball pool. Alucard is very good but casting time is put to question. Richter is about as good as Sonic in this environment. Which is not.--Query:How well can both teams' casting be done underwater?Can Garrus do anything with field in his extra time? Can "borrow" weapons from rest of his team? Because borrowing from Ray and then scattering bombs everywhere before match - second winning strategy. Aigis knowing his location matters little when he can constrict team movement before match begins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Richter, Alucard, Aigis and Tusk vs. MG RAY, Tidus, Garrus, Shepard (+) Yeah! (+)

Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Richter, Alucard, Aigis and Tusk vs. MG RAY, Tidus, Garrus, Shepard