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Zikten 08/20/24 7:37:53 PM #1: |
https://youtu.be/vIfQtiUNdYo?si=mJYXuceVdCo_olYf This is so much bullshit. I remember her case. Originally she was facing a life sentence. For self defense. Guy kidnaps her. Rapes her. Makes her have sex with other men. And she isn't allowed to fight back? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itcheyness 08/20/24 7:39:21 PM #3: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's not self defense when you go to his house, shoot him in the head, burn his house down, and steal his car I guess? --- Seattle Sounders 10-7-7 37 points 261 Refugee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 08/20/24 7:53:11 PM #4: |
itcheyness posted... It's not self defense when you go to his house, shoot him in the head, burn his house down, and steal his car I guess?I'm cool with it. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/21/24 12:56:19 PM #7: |
I mean the guy deserved it but that ain't self defense --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBANN_88 08/21/24 12:58:52 PM #8: |
they say the best defense is a good offense --- Kremlin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hospy 08/21/24 1:01:10 PM #9: |
DipDipDiver posted... I mean the guy deserved it but that ain't self defense ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/21/24 1:03:08 PM #10: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] A Chicago-based investment firm bought Whataburger, so Chicago is no longer welcome 'round these parts in Texas --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 08/21/24 1:06:21 PM #12: |
itcheyness posted... It's not self defense when you go to his house, shoot him in the head, burn his house down, and steal his car I guess? I'd need more than that to be convinced to not try the jury nullification route. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiser1one 08/21/24 1:08:47 PM #13: |
*Google searches case* Hmmmm.......nah seems legit due to the circumstances; from what i'm reading about the case. --- Why is it that the world can't spell "lose" or "woman" right??? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/21/24 1:09:10 PM #14: |
the trauma this woman suffered is unimaginable she did nothing wrong --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 08/21/24 1:09:49 PM #15: |
I don't think you know what self defense means. --- THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 08/21/24 1:11:03 PM #16: |
She's a hero to me it sucks that the law got to her --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Oldschool Runescape. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 08/21/24 1:11:56 PM #19: |
itcheyness posted... It's not self defense when you go to his house, shoot him in the head, burn his house down, and steal his car I guess?It is if you think he'll come after you. --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 08/21/24 1:13:20 PM #20: |
eggcorn posted... I'm cool with it.ditto --- There's enough attention whores on CE already ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 08/21/24 1:14:41 PM #21: |
Primary issue in my view is the punishment. This woman is unlikely to get any significant help for the unimaginable trauma involved while incarcerated. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/21/24 1:14:50 PM #22: |
of course dicehiest rolls a defense for this garbage --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuerrillaSoldier 08/21/24 1:16:01 PM #23: |
why isn't there some 'retribution law' that says if someone kidnapped you and did horrible things that you're legally allowed to track them down and murder them later --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/21/24 1:37:27 PM #26: |
ThePieReborn posted... Primary issue in my view is the punishment. This woman is unlikely to get any significant help for the unimaginable trauma involved while incarcerated.For real I bet the other prisoners will treat her well though --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FolkenRawr 08/21/24 1:41:30 PM #27: |
AceMos posted... of course dicehiest rolls a defense for this garbage ScazarMeltex posted... Everybody on CE has been pretty clear about a desire for you to shut the fuck and go away. Yet here you are. Yeeeeep Feels like this has been going on forever, yet everytime I hear about her, it's a brand new kick to the dick --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tb333 08/21/24 1:43:46 PM #28: |
ScazarMeltex posted... Everybody on CE has been pretty clear about a desire for you to shut the fuck and go away. Yet here you are. Chill man. Dont know what this user said to you but this reaction is insane. Its gamefaqs dude. --- "Im sorry please come back" Humanity to Natural Selection ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monopoman 08/21/24 1:44:50 PM #29: |
itcheyness posted... It's not self defense when you go to his house, shoot him in the head, burn his house down, and steal his car I guess? Hmm, a bit extreme after you shoot him in the head he can't really utilize his car and house anyways. This is basically like burning an apartment building some evil guy lives in, because you really hate that guy. It is amusing though how many people can't seem to grasp that vigilantism is illegal, you can't just go around and pretend to be the Punisher or some shit. Shit even in the modern incarnations of Punisher he typically is a fugitive from the law. --- Getting too damn old for this crap! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hitokoriX 08/21/24 1:45:22 PM #30: |
I'm reading that she shot him "after he tried to touch her". That seems like self defense given their history. Also, I'm concerned with the absolute lack of humanity in the sentencing. This woman doesnt need to go to jail, this man wronged her in a pretty massive way -- and she would have been protected by the law if the prosecution wasn't so bloodthirsty. --- Would you follow a blind man? I would if I was in the dark ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Diceheist 08/21/24 1:46:56 PM #31: |
tb333 posted...
I'm not even the first one to post the opinion that I did. But I'm not going to argue about it. I understand it's a difficult subject. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 08/21/24 1:47:31 PM #32: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is gamefaqs. Those of us who know what Chicago is are nerds who are still bitter that the movie version beat out The Two Towers for Best Picture. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 08/21/24 1:58:20 PM #34: |
I'm curious in a post Trump Presidency world if stuff like this becomes more common. Women being prosecuted more for "fighting back" against their assaulter. I know this is an exception but I can see a post Project 2025 world being extremely forgiving to assaulters against women especially women of color. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodmoon77 08/21/24 2:09:27 PM #35: |
She doesn't deserve 11 years but she does deserve time for taking the law into her hands in a dangerous way. Setting fire to a home and then stealing his car on top of murder is uh not good. If she had done the deed without the extra stuff im sure the sentence wouldnt have been as harsh. It's an incredibly shitty situation but the judges quote from the articles does have some truth. --- I wouldn't trust this company with making a cheese sandwich, they'd start an additional kickstarter for the mayo-ssjmatthew on Comcept's MN9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 08/21/24 2:09:49 PM #36: |
DipDipDiver posted... I mean the guy deserved it but that ain't self defense --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LSGW_Zephyra 08/21/24 2:15:13 PM #37: |
Zikten posted... https://youtu.be/vIfQtiUNdYo?si=mJYXuceVdCo_olYf Feels like there should be better options with cases like this even if it isn't self-defense then sending someone to prison for that long of time. --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 08/21/24 2:20:08 PM #38: |
Morally, no, i dont think what she did was wrong. This guy was a monster and she was victimized and traumatized by him. If the story of her going to his house, shooting him in the head and then burning it down is to be believed though, thats also not self defense. Its a difficult situation, but revenge killing is still illegal, even if that revenge is completely valid. I think 11 years is too harsh though. --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 08/21/24 2:21:04 PM #39: |
Monopoman posted... Hmm, a bit extreme after you shoot him in the head he can't really utilize his car and house anyways. This is basically like burning an apartment building some evil guy lives in, because you really hate that guy. nah I think people understand it fine, they just prefer to serve time to ensure others dont suffer a similar fate. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 08/21/24 2:29:01 PM #40: |
Morally, I'm fine with what she did. However, this looks like vigilante justice and the law doesn't allow for anybody to go up to somebody and kill them for something they did to them in the past. That would lead up to a terrible precedent in the eyes of the law. With that said, I empathize with her and I hoped she would get a much more lenient sentence if all the stuff I'm reading about what this piece of shit did to her was true. She went through trauma that I don't think I would ever had to go through myself. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 08/21/24 2:31:20 PM #41: |
Honestly if shed stopped before the fire part Id feel differently. Weve got people at work dying from heat exposure; we dont need more fires than we already have. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarFighters76 08/21/24 2:38:05 PM #42: |
tb333 posted... Chill man. Dont know what this user said to you but this reaction is insane. Its gamefaqs dude. It's not insane when he is 100% correct. --- 1,000 maps on 04/12/2010! -- 2,000 maps on 04/15/2016! -- 3,000 maps on 11/19/2019! -- 4,000 maps on 02/10/2023! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere_Man 08/21/24 2:39:27 PM #43: |
Why was she changed with a felon with a firearm? --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjnelson 08/21/24 2:42:01 PM #45: |
eggcorn posted... I'm cool with it. Me too, but that's not really a counter argument. --- I'm not here for friends. I'm here for the truth to the best of my knowledge of it, even if it's not what people want to hear. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 08/21/24 2:44:25 PM #46: |
Unnecessarily harsh sentencing. I could maybe understand if she killed a real person, but she only killed a sex trafficker. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere_Man 08/21/24 2:49:53 PM #47: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] At the 2:00 mark of the video one of the listed charges was felon in possession of a firearm. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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justaguy3492 08/21/24 2:57:20 PM #48: |
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/19/us/chrystul-kizer-sentencing-sex-trafficking-death/index.html Kizer, 17 at the time, put a gun in her bookbag in June 2018 and traveled from Milwaukee to Volars home in Kenosha after telling her boyfriend she was going to shoot him because she was tired of him touching her, the AP reported, citing court documents. This is definitely not self defense as written, but I'm unsure why the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruling doesn't apply here? Is it because he wasn't in the act of trafficking her at the time of his death? --- Gt: justaguy3492 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itcheyness 08/21/24 4:37:06 PM #50: |
hitokoriX posted... I'm reading that she shot him "after he tried to touch her". That seems like self defense given their history.Apparently she gave multiple different stories about the circumstances of the shooting to police when asked. --- Seattle Sounders 10-7-7 37 points 261 Refugee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 08/21/24 4:40:11 PM #51: |
itcheyness posted... Apparently she gave multiple different stories about the circumstances of the shooting to police when asked.When you drive to another state with a loaded firearm there is more than enough evidence to prove premeditation. Plus the boyfriend. She should have made some kind of a psych defense. That would have probably worked well enough to get at least probation. Assuming no one else got hurt because of that fire. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 08/21/24 4:46:06 PM #52: |
itcheyness posted... It's not self defense when you go to his house, shoot him in the head, burn his house down, and steal his car I guess? Wait, she wasn't being held captive by him there? If she was coming and going on her own this is a little weirder. --- This is where cool people write stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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