Poll of the Day > Which province would you most want to live in? (Canada)

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I was in Victoria BC earlier this year, it's absolutely incredible there. You need to be a millionaire to look at anything on the west coast though.

Probably Ontario.

Nunavat

crazyisgood posted...

Nunavat

that is not a province, that is only a territory

Im content in mb.

The coldest part. Then again I live in Tasmania.

I'd probably pick one of the territories. I favor being remote and low cost of living over being near a major city.

Remote maybe but have you ever seen the costs of some of their basic grocery items?

__starsnostars posted...

Remote maybe but have you ever seen the costs of some of their basic grocery items?

Ours are no better in Australia.

__starsnostars posted...

Remote maybe but have you ever seen the costs of some of their basic grocery items?

Buy in bulk, you only really go grocery shopping maybe 2-3 times a year. Because the cost of shipping stuff there is so high it doesn't make sense to buy something that will only last you like a week at most.

Sure, you aren't going to have "fresh" food, but that is a small price to pay really.

You could be remote in Canada without living in one of the territories

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Nova Scotia

Eww, canada.

NS, NB or ON seem to be the most enticing, IMO

Nova Scotia because it's already where I live. Most of Canada is pretty good. Quebec s the only place I really wouldn't want to live.

I'm surprised Quebec has any votes. This place sucks for Anglophones.

eli_loves_ddr posted...

I'm surprised Quebec has any votes. This place sucks for Anglophones.

Probably for Montreal, having visited it twice, it is a pretty cool place. Plus I admittedly never encountered any issues not knowing any French.

Dikitain posted...

Probably for Montreal, having visited it twice, it is a pretty cool place. Plus I admittedly never encountered any issues not knowing any French.

Montreal is great, and its not bad to visit at all. The real problem is having to deal with government services or health care while having limited French skills.

eli_loves_ddr posted...

The real problem is having to deal with government services or health care while having limited French skills.

You don't have to worry about this because all government services are bilingual. While private businesses are not legally obligated to serve you in English, that's not the case with healthcare and other public services. You have the right to be served in English there. The opposite is true in all other provinces. Whenever I cross the border to Ontario, I always speak French at the hospital. It's only at restaurants and stores that I sometimes have to speak English.

There are plenty of anglophone communities in my province. Depending on where you go, it should be easy to get served in English even at private businesses. They tend to only hire bilingual people for customer service jobs in the areas linked below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anglophone_communities_in_Quebec

I live in BC and I'll stick with it.

Southern Ontario AKA the North-North USA

Accrovideogames posted...

You don't have to worry about this because all government services are bilingual.

Its cute that you believe this, but in reality, its very difficult for anglophones to receive some government services. Government jobs seem to attract the worst people, and the extremists who fill these positions seems to take joy in messing with anglophones, and as anglophone rights continue to be stripped away by the CAQ, those extremists feel more and more emboldened to decide for themselves what rights they feel anglophones deserve.

And yes, this is coming from experience. I've lived in Quebec all my life.

eli_loves_ddr posted...

Its cute that you believe this, but in reality, its very difficult for anglophones to receive some government services. Government jobs seem to attract the worst people, and the extremists who fill these positions seems to take joy in messing with anglophones, and as anglophone rights continue to be stripped away by the CAQ, those extremists feel more and more emboldened to decide for themselves what rights they feel anglophones deserve.

And yes, this is coming from experience. I've lived in Quebec all my life.

my anglo friends in Montreal don't have much issue. I am aware Montreal is a bit different though.

British Columbia.

I've thought of moving to PEI. But there's no jobs for me there so it wouldn't be smart to move there. Maybe when I retire.

I know nothing about newfoundland and labrador, but they produced amazing dogs so it's a contender just for that.

I've been told Nova Scotia is basically ireland which sounds like a lot of fun.

I don't speak French, but I would like to learn it. So Quebec might be fun.

British Columbia sounds nice but way too expensive.

I'm going to avoid Yukon, northern territories, and nunavut except for vacations.

I don't know much about Manitoba, Saskatchewan, or Alberta. I think Saskatchewan and Alberta were the more rural areas that attract hunters and fisherman, but I'm not positive on that. Nature isn't bad, but I do prefer cities.

Ontario would be ok. It's where most of the people are. But I don't know enough about it to know what it has to offer besides that.

I don't know much about new Brunswick or prince Edward Island, but geographically they are in good looking spots. I think I'd be good with either of them.

I always got the vibe that Ontario is the most American, so that one

slacker03150 posted...

I don't know much about Manitoba, Saskatchewan, or Alberta. I think Saskatchewan and Alberta were the more rural areas that attract hunters and fisherman, but I'm not positive on that. Nature isn't bad, but I do prefer cities.

Most of what you said was accurate except for this paragraph.

Manitoba is mostly marshy prairie. It's known for extremely cold winters and often humid, mosquito filled summers. It's basically a mix of North Dakota and Minnesota, which it borders.

Saskatchewan is almost all flat prairie farmland. Fishing really isn't much of a thing there but I suppose they have a few lakes, mostly man made reservoirs though. Not sure where you'd do hunting either since it's all farmland. There are some sand dunes in the southwest corner of the province but nothing super special. Saskatchewan is basically Canada's Nebraska.

Alberta is more of a mixed bag. Most of the people live in the prairie areas. It's warmer and drier than the other two by a fair margin but winters are still very cold. There are also several badlands areas in the southeast part of the province sort of similar to what you'd see in the US southwest, and these areas are known for being the best place on Earth to find dinosaur fossils. The western edge of the province is mountain and forest land. Alberta is often thought of as being Canada's Texas, but geographically it's more truthfully like Colorado.

faramir77 posted...

Most of what you said was accurate except for this paragraph.

Manitoba is mostly marshy prairie. It's known for extremely cold winters and often humid, mosquito filled summers. It's basically a mix of North Dakota and Minnesota, which it borders.

Saskatchewan is almost all flat prairie farmland. Fishing really isn't much of a thing there but I suppose they have a few lakes, mostly man made reservoirs though. Not sure where you'd do hunting either since it's all farmland. There are some sand dunes in the southwest corner of the province but nothing super special. Saskatchewan is basically Canada's Nebraska.

Alberta is more of a mixed bag. Most of the people live in the prairie areas. It's warmer and drier than the other two by a fair margin but winters are still very cold. There are also several badlands areas in the southeast part of the province sort of similar to what you'd see in the US southwest, and these areas are known for being the best place on Earth to find dinosaur fossils. The western edge of the province is mountain and forest land. Alberta is often thought of as being Canada's Texas, but geographically it's more truthfully like Colorado.

Also Hunters and Fishing is a Manitoba thing. Land of 10 billion lakes. And huge forests with deer desperately trying to escape the mosquitoes. One of the biggest in land lakes in the world is in Manitoba.

Born and raised in Nova Scotia, and it's where I'd like to live long-term, but we're moving to Ontario for my girlfriend's work in a few months because there aren't many opportunities here.

Dikitain posted...

Buy in bulk, you only really go grocery shopping maybe 2-3 times a year. Because the cost of shipping stuff there is so high it doesn't make sense to buy something that will only last you like a week at most.

Sure, you aren't going to have "fresh" food, but that is a small price to pay really.

The last I saw a definite price, it was like $30 for 2L of orange juice, and that was ~6-7 years ago when that would be more like $4-5 anywhere else. Even buying in bulk and mostly sticking to non-perishable stuff that you can store for a long time, you're going to be spending a *ton* on groceries. You can get lower overall costs of living by living in rural areas within a few hours' drive of a city than by living in areas so remote that food has to be flown in and most produce is half-rotten by the time it gets to you. Bonus points where Internet access in the territories can be iffy (a quick search for Nunavut is showing some pretty restrictive bandwidth caps and low speeds), which limits the jobs you can do remotely and leaves you dependent on finding work locally.

Unless you're Inuit and trying to remain connected with your culture or you've been offered an attractive job, there isn't a lot of incentive to live in the territories. You can get the other benefits of living in relatively remote areas (quieter, less traffic, lower rents) without being that remote and driving up your cost of living in other ways.

Muscles posted...

I always got the vibe that Ontario is the most American, so that one

Depends entirely on what you mean by "most American."

I went to Ontario a long time ago and dont remember much about it. Ive been to BC several times and enjoyed it.

faramir77 posted...

Most of what you said was accurate except for this paragraph

Yeah, I'm definitely skipping those 3 then.

I do find it funny the most expensive and crime ridden provinces with the most homeless camps are winning. Shows how people know fuck all about Canada.

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Do I get a newfie if I move to newfoundland?

SinisterSlay posted...

I do find it funny the most expensive and crime ridden provinces with the most homeless camps are winning. Shows how people know fuck all about Canada.

That's more a function of the fact that there are big cities there than anything else. Big cities are expensive, which means more homelessness. Toronto and Vancouver are particularly bad in that regard, but they're also not unique (Halifax in particular has seen rents spike to near-Toronto levels since people started moving to NS in droves during/after Covid), and are more just reflections of the housing crisis Canada's seeing on a national scale (which some cities are doing a better job of managing than others). Higher density means a higher perception of crime, which is what you're referencing, but Ontario and Quebec are actually both below the national per capita crime rate (also lower than PEI), and BC's pretty squarely in the middle of the pack. The highest crime rates by far are Nunavut and NWT, with Yukon as a distant third and Saskatchewan and Manitoba as even more distant fourth and fifth.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/230727/t003b-eng.htm

adjl posted...

That's more a function of the fact that there are big cities there than anything else. Big cities are expensive, which means more homelessness. Toronto and Vancouver are particularly bad in that regard, but they're also not unique (Halifax in particular has seen rents spike to near-Toronto levels since people started moving to NS in droves during/after Covid), and are more just reflections of the housing crisis Canada's seeing on a national scale (which some cities are doing a better job of managing than others). Higher density means a higher perception of crime, which is what you're referencing, but Ontario and Quebec are actually both below the national per capita crime rate (also lower than PEI), and BC's pretty squarely in the middle of the pack. The highest crime rates by far are Nunavut and NWT, with Yukon as a distant third and Saskatchewan and Manitoba as even more distant fourth and fifth.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/230727/t003b-eng.htm

Crime rates in Canada are determined by a far more racist statistic I'm afraid

Yes, the high rates in the territories are definitely a product of over-policing indigenous communities (plus a wide range of factors contributing to higher actual crime rates in indigenous communities, including profound generational trauma and institutionalized poverty). Still, though, to paint Ontario, Quebec, and BC as "crime-ridden" doesn't really accurately portray where they sit in the grand scheme of things. A lot of crimes happen, but that's a function of the population more so than anything else.

adjl posted...

Yes, the high rates in the territories are definitely a product of over-policing indigenous communities (plus a wide range of factors contributing to higher actual crime rates in indigenous communities, including profound generational trauma and institutionalized poverty). Still, though, to paint Ontario, Quebec, and BC as "crime-ridden" doesn't really accurately portray where they sit in the grand scheme of things. A lot of crimes happen, but that's a function of the population more so than anything else.

Honestly I felt safer in PEI than I did in Winnipeg. Winnipeg is just awful. Days you don't witness a crime when you go out are special.

Never had an interest in living in Canada.

Winnipeg also has five times the population of the entire province of PEI. Toss in that Manitoba's overall crime rate is more than double PEI's, and you've got a recipe for seeing a lot more crime happen.

adjl posted...

Yes, the high rates in the territories are definitely a product of over-policing indigenous communities (plus a wide range of factors contributing to higher actual crime rates in indigenous communities, including profound generational trauma and institutionalized poverty).

In contrast, indigenous communities within large cities, despite often lacking running water, look like great places to live in. And then there are those who were "successfully" assimilated and raised like "normal" people. These ones don't have any of their culture left, but the generational trauma is still present. I'm part of this third group.