Current Events > Pro-Palestine protesters burning American flags at Capital

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LGBTQ+ people aren't in charge of the genocide in Palestine so that would be very confusing.

If anyone thinks this will help their cause, keep doing it. Its as dumb as sports fans that burn a players jersey after that player leaves to another team.

oh no not the flag

Its also confusing to the general public because the US flag isnt exclusive to the government thats in charge of genocide.

If anyone thinks this will help their cause, keep doing it. Its as dumb as sports fans that burn a players jersey after that player leaves to another team.

Did Vietnam protestors burn flags too? Not baiting, genuinely curious.

Did Vietnam protestors burn flags too? Not baiting, genuinely curious.

Did Vietnam protestors burn flags too? Not baiting, genuinely curious.

Also ffs Fetterman managed to wear a suit to congress today! Lord, it's a miracle!

Also ffs Fetterman managed to wear a suit to congress today! Lord, it's a miracle!

At least Dems are coming out against this.

9 months ago I don't think they would have.

Yes, and being able to do so was a major free speech issue. Congress outlawed flag burning in 1968 as a response to Vietnam protests. The supreme court affirmed it as protected speech/expression in 1989.

Something like half the dems in Congress refuses to show up, right?

Protests are only effective when absolutely no one could ever possibly be put into any position of inconvenience. They just lose all support the very second someone has had even the tiniest roadblock appears or any image makes them feel even the slightest bit of emotion.

Hence why I just whine online as no one cares.

Yeah it can look bad in the media, but use your big brain and think beyond gut instincts.

I think a good rule of thumb is you should behave in a manner that is clearly distinguishable from the way that paid plants from your adversaries would act in an effort to discredit you

I think its a good rule of thumb to not listen to pearl clutchers who care more about optics than the issues.

I think its a good rule of thumb to not listen to pearl clutchers who care more about optics than the issues.

I think gaining political power is important and surely we've all seen that political power is primarily about optics.

The people who are going to disingenuously criticize the protests are going to find a way to do so no matter what. Stop amplifying their stupid arguments.

I missed the part where burning American flags and giving an easy excuse to ignore the core problem of Israeli war crimes in Gaza were helpful.

Of course protests are inevitable, and people should protest. But if the end result is merely doing stuff that helps the side you're protesting or make less likely to get others to support you, the protest fucked up.

How many Palestinians were killed today? Probably hundreds. What will the media and politicians be talking about instead? A burnt flag. Congrats, the protestors that burned the flag vented for twenty seconds and gave the powers that be ample excuse ignore their concerns for weeks.

One day of one protest in one city is not 1968 lol. This won't affect anything.

Still not helping or even trying to win people to their side with shit like this.

https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1816213224452415662?t=pZBiokuRqxqDufZFQYw0Rw&s=19

oh noes someone will have to scrub down a bell that's so horrible compared to committing genocide

Protesting and showing the death/destruction is a way to get people on board.

This is just a way to give endless imagery and video clips to Republicans and Israel as a means to anger the average American.

oh noes someone will have to scrub down a bell that's so horrible compared to committing genocide

Still not helping or even trying to win people to their side with shit like this.

https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1816213224452415662?t=pZBiokuRqxqDufZFQYw0Rw&s=19

You seem to think this is being done to win people over. It's not. If the slaughter of children and the commission of war crimes won't 'win people over', what will?
'Don't inconvenience or upset us, because we might get even more Islamophobic and even more supportive of ethnic cleansing'. Not much of a threat after 10 months of sending money and munitions, is it?

Someone should ask them why it's the US's fault Palestinian terrorists started this war back October.

Still not helping or even trying to win people to their side with shit like this.

https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1816213224452415662?t=pZBiokuRqxqDufZFQYw0Rw&s=19

Or more likely, "why should I listen to or give a shit about anything you have to say when you inconvenience/insult me?"
We're talking about basic human nature, here. Most people learn by the time they reach adulthood that insulting and/or inconveniencing people will automatically make them hostile to you.

But the hamas is coming graffiti is fucked. How that shit is even tolerated in the community doing these protests is beyond me. I've argued with so many people that tell me this pro hamas and antisemitic contingent doesn't exist but its blatantly there.

Or more likely, "why should I listen to or give a shit about anything you have to say when you inconvenience/insult me?"
We're talking about basic human nature, here. Most people learn by the time they reach adulthood that insulting and/or inconveniencing people will automatically make them hostile to you.

The optics of flag burning is that its a patriotic act of protest which we spent 20 years fighting to enshrine as protected speech.
All protests are disruptive. Thats the point. If we are talking about the protest because of flag burning, its a successful tactic.